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According to economists, free migration would double the world's real GDP. Why are you against open borders, /pol/?
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Criminals can easily get into a devoloped country just for the gibs and claim "racism put me down"
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>>68060050
Allowing people with completely different culture and values to enter your country is not a good idea.

One example, Brazil is a country full of faggots, now imagine people that hate faggotry coming here by the thousands, how would that turn out?
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dumping welfare would probably raise GDP too. So lets do both, shall we?
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oh look this thread again
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>>68060253
It would be a massive win
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>>68060260

>So lets do both, shall we?

Ok.
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>>68060050
>According to economists,
who
>free migration
what
>would double the world's real GDP
how
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>>68060050
Economists are not trustworthy. They predict everything and blame models when they are wrong. Worthless profession.
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>>68060050
>economists
Literal jews...
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>>68060253
Do you know how many Muslims there is in Brazil in %?
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muslims.
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>>68060050
>an online jidf blogger visits /pol/: the post
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>>68060404

on point. they're the original fraudsters.
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>>68060253

Don't worry brazil I don't think many people will be waiting in line to get themselves a brand new shack in the favela
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>>68060050
You're right, but economists don't care about anything else except the economy. Economists would also agree that slavery of the lesser people would increase gdp too.
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>>68060240
thanks for the input yugoslavia
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>>68060050
I'm not, I want the whole world to look exactly like Latin America.
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>>68060578
Tell that to the Haitians
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>>68060050
GDP benefits the people at the top. For example, Brazil has one of the highest GDPs in the world, but the average Brazilian can't afford a smart phone.
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>>68057024
What economists?
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>>68060050

Yes, and most of that doubling of GDP would go to the wealthy elite. Meanwhile the common man would have to deal with the increased crime, decreased wages, etc.

You sound like a good goy OP, keep doing G*d's work!
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>>68060050

Because some things are more important than money.

p.s.

economists are wrong A LOT.
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because if a niggers or more likely a Chinese tries to corrupt my nation
i will kill them. and then i go to prison. this is why borders is important
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>>68060050
i want all the redheads to myself
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Real gdp isnt measurable in terms of population growth- only long term gdp rate can be detected by population shifts, and we see that gdp growth occurs because more people = more govt spending = more taxes. This in turn decreases consumption, but its held constant since population increase offsets such.


Economically, growth of population to gdp increase is false.
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>>68060401
>>68060722


http://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.25.3.83
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>>68060050
Because it would lower my income. I give no fucks about those who would benefit ( the owners of capital who would be able to hire labor as cheaply as possible )
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>>68060807

>e see that gdp growth occurs because more people = more govt spending = more taxes.

This is among the most retarded things I've read on this board.
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>>68060253
For they did, it might save your country.
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>>68060050
>Economics
>Politics without geopolitics
>Politics without reality check

I like war too OP.
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>>68060050
1. Economists are dumb-asses who don't understand second order effects.

Like

* High migration leads to breakdown of civil society and rule of law.

* Welfare state collapses under burden of free-loaders.

* Crime wave as 3rd world criminals take over the streets (see Europe for a case study).

* Society breaks down as we fall below the critical mass of IQ>110 people needed to keep things going. See Africa for case studies.

2. Even if overall GDP went up, those currently living in 1st world countries would lose out big as wages plummet to 3rd world levels.
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Those "economists" studied a meme major that worships a man named John Maynard Keynes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s

Here's Sir James Goldsmith BTFO'ing one of the most well respected Clinton economists who teaches at CAL Berkeley.

Laura D'Andrea Tyson (born June 28, 1947) is an American economist and former Chair of the US President's Council of Economic Advisers during the Clinton Administration.

The KEKs start at 15 minutes in.

I have met this woman and she is a disgusting globalist.
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>>68060050
When kuznets first started using gdp, he warned it shouldn't be used to judge the wealth of people.

Educate yourself.
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>>68060860
>all barriers
In other words first world people have to have the same right to go to a third world country and set up shop using local labor and resources. Unfortunately few on the poorer end want to allow that because of the history of colonialism. Instead first world countries are being asked to lower their own borders unilaterally, and that leads to stress on social welfare systems and negative wage pressure, which in turn lowers GDP. Thanks for playing though.
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>>68060050
Because it leads to having to Remove Kebab,Taco,Liberals What ever group starts causing problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB9WgR_N4h4
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The problem with open borders is tax-based welfare, which means that everyone from shitholes would come to the US and leech off everyone and basically cripple the economy. Perhaps getting rid of welfare then opening borders would work, some people here may support that.
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>>68060050
Because leftist have ruined this policy by introducing welfare.
Kill welfare and it becomes possible with welfare you just get economy draining cunts in large numbers that cause massive net loss compared to those that come for work
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>>68061255

Labor economists don't study Keynes.
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>>68061478

Then eliminate the welfare state. Problem solved.
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>>68061499
Americans have a very big problem...

They live in a non-nation state. Which means they can't really understand what is a nation.

You bring me blacks and muslims, i kill them.
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>>68061207
Econfag here.
Your first point is sadly true, far too many get so dickhard on the mathematical basis of it and go full libertardian
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>>68060050
A nation without controlled borders is not a nation.
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>>68061671
But turks are fine?
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THESE THREADS STAY ON THE FRONT PAGE AND GET REPOSTED EVERY FEW HOURS

EVERYTHING JUICY GETS SLID TO THE ARCHIVES IN UNDER 20 MINUTES EVEN WITH A DOZEN POSTERS

MODS SAVE /POL/ SOMEHOW PLEASE
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>>68061987
Sorry no one is paying attention to your "evidence" of organized anti-pol activities on leddit. Just post about it a few hundred thousand more times and we'll get the message.
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>>68061586
Maybe not in a traditional sense that their focus is on Keynes
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>>68062142
Nobody mentioned organized anti-pol activities. Only you. What are you hiding? Are you FBI?
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>>68061207
>2. Even if overall GDP went up, those currently living in 1st world countries would lose out big as wages plummet to 3rd world levels.

Exception: rich elites would win big. The 1% if you will.
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>>68062230

They don't study Keynes in any sense whatsoever.
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>>68062327
OMG HOW DID I KNOW??? I MUST BE SPYING ON YOU!!!!
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>>68062354
This is what the left wants though.

Islam is the most effective religion for control of the entire world. Muslims breed like rabbits. It's really simple.
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>>68062354
I'm ok with this.

t. Shlomo Shekelburgstein
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>>68060050

Translated from jew-speak:
>kill yourselves goyim is good for your health

Read the FAQ:
http://www.big-lies.org/jews/guide-for-the-perplexed-about-jews.html
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Economists say.....

Preacher man say....

Supplements sellers say....

Used car dealers say.....
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>>68060050
If mainstream economists had a clue... Then the "muh jobs" meme Trump is riding wouldn't be happening.
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Economists are people who only observe things through economic perspective. Open borders and globalization are however not just economic questions, so they aren't fit to make predictions or recommend policies.
Also, GDP means nothing. Americans have 55,000$ per capita, Finland has 40,000$ per capita, does that mean average American has better quality of life than average Finn?
These materialist fantasies are cancer of modern world, people fail to appreciate it's effects on cultures and societies.
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>>68062887
GDP doesn't into per capita.
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>>68062400
>This.

In fact, if I were to recite Keynes, but call it a different name and take credit, they wouldn't even recognize his idea, and yet would still dismiss.
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>>68063351
What?
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>>68060050

There is more to life than money
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Economics is called the dismal science for a reason.

They got it wrong on free trade.

They got it wrong on trickle down.

They predicted 9 of the last 5 recessions.

Dont trust them for anything.
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The economists assume mass migration won't haapen. In reality, third-worlders will flood the developed countries.
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>>68060050
According to economists, if every person in the world paid their neighbor 20 dollars to eat a bowl of shit, the world's real GDP would increase by 120 billion dollars.
Why are you against eating shit, OP?
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>>68060050

Kike alert
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>>68063511
GDP is gross, meaning total. You could have a country with one million people, and double the GDP by dumping in four million unskilled migrants. GPD would raise, but per capita wealth would plummet.
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>>68063959
Because that's haram.
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In order to save the planet, we need to protect cultures that are responsible when it come to overpopulation; otherwise Mexicans and Arabs will overrun every country and destroy the planet.
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>>68060050
Because economic statistics don't account for the personal element - the people who would suffer from a huge influx of subhumans.
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>>68062887
HDI is more important when it comes to determining quality of life.

GDP just measures how much a country produces.

PPP(Purchasing Power Parity) determines disposable income.
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>>68060050
>average wages would rise in the poor region and fall in the rich region, while returns to capital rise in the rich region and fall in the poor region.

So there we have it
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>>68064635
Yep. You could have a country with a low GDP but a huge HDI like New Zealand, which is number 5 in HDI but 54 in GDP. Or you could have the opposite, like Brazil which is number 7 in GDP but 75 in HDI
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>>68060050
The GDP is a number that doesn't explain shit. It may turn people who are millionaires into billionaires, but what about the rest of us? It will be a massive race to the bottom if you're in even a semi-developed country. Your salaries, benefits and working conditions will start resembling that of the third world.
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>>68060050
>According to Economists

Jesus Christ anon, might as well ask engineers about girls
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>>68060050
according to mommy, pooping in the toilet will double my GBP, doesn't mean i'll do it
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>>68061357
This
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>>68066558

Let me guess. You also reject the theory of evolution and believe in holistic medicine.
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