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Why doesn't people like Capitalism? Especially poor people.

Isn't it the best system for people to get out of poverty? Hard work, smart work and self-realization?
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>>68027349
>Why doesn't people like Capitalism?
>Hard work, smart work and self-realization
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>>68027349
Is that the American one?
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>>68027349
>why doesn't people like capitalism?
In the future, please mind your grammar. The proper way of phrasing this would be...
>Why don't people like Capitalism?
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Capitalism is a meme invented by Marxists and exploited by corporations for the purpose of corporate welfare. The free market is what brings people out of poverty.
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>>68027349

Capitalism reveals how worthless, useless and lazy most people are, as they are unable to negotiate more than a meager wage for their work.

Naturally they take offense to this.
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>>68029206
Cause it's present, right?
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Poor people in America would rather get free money from the government to do nothing than go out and perform hard work. Why do you think Bernie had any sort of following? ESPECIALLY among unemployed young people?
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>>68029787
yes this.
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>>68030331
It's improper conjugation.

>he doesn't
>they don't
is the present

>he didn't
>they didn't
is the past
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People who doesn't like capitalism doesn't know what capitalism is.
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>>68027349
Poor people are usually lazy people or people that made terrible decisions early in life and rather admit responsibility it's easier to blame everyone else
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>>68030474
Okey, got it. Thanks.
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>>68029180
I don't recall sausage and tomato on the American one.
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I don't like consumer societies like the one we live in so fuck off with Capitalism.
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>>68028554

Here's what I don't get: even if you were a pretty lazy person, in a capitalist society you could get a pretty meager job and still live rather comfortably. If you're a truck driver for instance, you can afford a small apartment and food especially if you don't live in a city.

To me that's the value of capitalism: you can live a modest, minimalist life if you want to, and if you don't want to, you can change that.

Poor people are better under capitalism than socialism or communism.
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(((Free Market)))

Capitalism + protectionist policies = good for your people
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>>68030845
You're either inexperienced or willfully delusional.
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>>68030314
>what are unions
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The question that you people must first answer is, "Why does Capitalism exist?"

Why did Capitalism take over the world? Was it because the people demanded capitalism? Did Capitalism spread organically and voluntarily?

Or did Capitalism spread merely because those governments which employed capitalism, became more and more powerful, because of greater and greater production and technological advancement. Which allowed them to amass huge well-armed Armies/Navies, as well as to use economic coercion to spread their influence/hegemony, to manipulate(and potentially overthrow) foreign governments.


If Capitalism has ultimately been for the benefit of absolutely anyone, that is merely a happy coincidence.

There are certainly many benefits to Capitalism, but lets remember guys, the real object of all "Capitalists", is world domination. A capitalist has no morality, he has no nation, he has no religion, he has no culture. He exists only for profit. And he will seek it everywhere, and will use any means available to him.


There has never existed a "free market capitalist economy". Because the purpose of capitalism is not for the benefit of the people, it exists for the benefit of the state. And the true mark of capitalism is less "competition", as it is "competitive-advantage". Cronyism and Capitalism are inseparable.

International/global trade requires some system of international regulation, and further, a power to enforce it. What that means is, a global economy requires global governance. The inevitable outcome of capitalism, is a one-world government.
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>>68027349
Capitalism is a giant nigger.

It's a huge fucking lie.
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>>68034579
What....
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>>68027349
poor people become more poor with capitalism and rich people more rich. Nazi Germany needed another thing than communism and capitalism because they were in bankruptcy
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>>68027349
I still wonder where you can get bacon that looks like that

most of the shit you buy in stores ends up like a shriveled up bookmark that tastes bad
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>>68027349
>Why doesn't people like Capitalism? Especially poor people.


It is a lie, one big stinking lie, where the wealth of the people is extracted from them and given to a minority of degenerates.

The whole western world is going up in smoke.

America makes currency from nothing then enslaves the nations of the world. Do you remember all those kids sewing clothes and piecing products together in the 3rd world? This is all done for free, America can literally enslave whole groups of people with pic related, which is WORTHLESS.


LABOR EXTRACTED FROM THE PEOPLE = CAPITALISM
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>>68036234
Not all bacon are the same. Check your local butcher.
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>>68027349
There are people who where born in rich houses and will die rich withouth effort, like Paris Hilton and the Kardashians, I am not a comunist, but I prefer communism, or socialism, I am a National Sindicalist
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For some reason kikes love capitalism.
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In a system where success is determined by hard work and intelligence only the hard-working and intelligent are able to succeed.

Such a system is rigged against blacks because they are neither hard-working nor intelligent, on average. It is also rigged against hispanics because they are less intelligent than whites, asians, and jews.

Such a system favors jews and asians the most because they are the most hard-working and most intelligent, on average. That is why the wealthiest billionaires are mostly all Jewish except Buffet, Gates, and Allen. That is also why asians have higher average household income and educational attainment than whites in the United States.
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>>68036234

Put it in the oven.
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>>68037972
Then explain how such an unintelligent and unskilled person like Paris Hilton can success.
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>>68037204
>copyright law is capitalistic
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>>68039695
>unintelligent and unskilled
She seems to do fenomenally well with what she got.

What have you achieved after all these years?
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>>68040185
Im only 18, also born in a middle class family in the third world, so nothing
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>>68037972
Allen is jewish
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>>68040814
You have to make the best out of it. Don't let envy get to you.

Success will come.
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>>68041213
I am a National Syndicalist, as I stated before, but yeah, I don't live in Franquist Spain, So I have to work hard under capitalism so I can change it for the good of my people
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>>68041580
You're just bitter and 18. It'll pass.
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>>68039695

1. Paris Hilton initial fame came from her famous and rich family, which owned Hilton hotels. These people must have been intelligent to own and operate such a famous business.

2. Paris Hilton is not academically intelligent but she clearly has social intelligence and reasoning ability.

3. Even if Paris Hilton was truly mentally deficient, which I don't think is completely accurate, she generated her wealth as a TV personality and the people who watched her were unintelligent. Unintelligent people spend what little money they have and when you have a lot of unintelligent people, it can generate a lot of money.

This in no way undermines the reality that on average, hard-working and intelligent people make more money by doing better in school, getting better jobs, and working hard at those jobs, to generate higher average incomes.

>>68041184

Paul Allen is not Jewish. Look it up.
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>>68031116
yum
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>>68036154
No. The poor become poorer because they're lazy. Fuck off, Pedro. I used to be so poor that I used to work with Mexicans tending gardens. Now I'm working a white collar job because I worked my ass off to get a job that now pays me $85,000 a year and I'm thrilled. Work hard, play hard. That's how capitalism works.
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>>68042574
This guy knows what's up.
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>>68027349
No. Now gimmedats.
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People don't know what capitalism is because they've been lied to
>Monsanto sues farmers for using their seeds without permission
Fuck capitalism, right? No. That's not capitalism. That's government.
>Fine Bros try to copyright their react format
Fuck capitalism? No. That's copyright laws.
>Employers pay you tiny wages
Fuck capitalism? Nope. That's companies lobbying to import more immigrants who are willing to work for smaller wages.

Everything these people blame on capitalism is almost always them being mad at government. They're just clueless and don't realize it.
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>>68037972
>Such a system favors jews and asians the most because they are the most hard-working and most intelligent, on average. That is why the wealthiest billionaires are mostly all Jewish
Jewish billionaires received their money through nepotism. In the time before capitalism Jews controlled banks and managed the wealth of aristocracy.
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>>68043263
You can't have Capitalism without laws, mate. Your analogy wasn't on point....
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>>68043263
You're going to have to go sit in the back of the class, now, because you just claimed governments result in:
>more monopolies
>more immigration
And those are both extraordinarily stupid things to say. Also wholly untrue.
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>>68037972
>Trump inherits money from his father
WOOW! HE DIDN'T MAKE THE MONEY! HE JUST INHERENT IT!

>Jews inherit money from their family
Well, duh. Obviously they're just so smart and sheeet. How dare you imply they didn't make the money without inference or good connections?
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>>68043320
t.poor redneck
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>>68027349
Your pancakes are pathetic shit. Let me show you some real pancakes.
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>>68027349
>Hard work
you answered your own question. People don't want to have to work hard.

>>68032591
true in theory but often not in practice. there's a lot of people who don't want to work hard, so the wages of those jobs sink because of the large supply. Which means that the amount of money you can get falls below what you need to support yourself. Minimum wages don't help because they set a floor price for that labor above the market-clearing price, which encourages employers to use less of that labor.

Also there's the fact that employers will, obviously, always favor the hardworking and eager over the lazy and reluctant. The fact that eager and hardworking people exist means that they set the terms that everyone in the labor market has to compete with.

>>68037972
>In a system where success is determined by hard work and intelligence only the hard-working and intelligent are able to succeed.
True, and it means that the lazy and dumb are fucked. Which is unfortunate if you're one of them, but this is how it should be, in addition to being the natural way of the world.
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>>68043482
What analogy? Do you even know what words mean?
I am not saying that we need to get rid of laws. We need to identify laws that hurt the people and change them.
If we don't like copyright laws so much instead of whining about capitalism we should get rid of copyright laws or modify.

When people whine about Fine Bros and say FUCK CAPITALISM, they are being retarded. If you don't like what Fine Bros are doing you should say ''fuck the copyright laws, let's change them so that the issue I have with Fine Bros is fixed''.
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>>68043598
Amazing argument. Go ahead and school me, genius. You obviously know so much about the subject.
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>>68043263

>Capitalists use governments as means towards capitalistic ends.
>govt here is purely a pawn of capitalists spurred on and compelled by market forces
>it's the government's fault

Ok Nigel
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>>68032692
>I don't understand comparative advantage
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>>68043777
Looks like créme brûlée on top of each other.

Now these over here my good leaf, these are real pancakes.
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>>68043777
Lol, look like real pancakes must look like
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>>68044084
>get rid of copyright laws
No, please stop. I agree with your overall point but that doesn't justify your disdain for necessary laws. Don't let stupid people convince you.
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>you will never be American
>you will never regularly have American breakfast in your Montana house
>you will never go fly fishing in Montana
>you will never go innawoods with some camp equipment and a gun
>you will never politely greet an American cop and show him license and registration without bitching
>meanwhile niggers born in the USA are completely undeserving monkeys but enjoy all of these opportunities
just kill me now
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>>68044407

Finland stepping up to the plate for shitposting
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>>68043777


How do you get them so fluffy?

What is the trick?
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>>68034271

This is the most retarded post I have ever read on this site.
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>>68044971
Fug you Hans. I've done all that but I still had to pull over in my tiny ass rental car while driving in Germany and fight back tears while driving through the Rhineland several years ago. It was so beautiful I honestly got watery eyed. Wish I could go back but then I remember your country won't even be mostly natives by 2020.
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>>68044718
The real issue here is that you have no reading comprehension.

I am not suggesting getting rid of copyright laws.
What I am saying is that the people who ''hate capitalism'' should address the issue they are having.
Right now the ''FUCK CAPITALISM'' people are so dumb they don't even deserve to be talked to. If they said ''FUCK COPYRIGHT LAWS'' I would start addressing their issues and trying to work things out. I don't want to get rid of copyright laws, I want these people to attack the thing that they dislike and I want them to stop blaming capitalism.

I like copyright laws to an extent. I like Monsanto, even thought it's one of the most hated companies in the world.
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>>68027349
ur triggering me with that food u fuck
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