/pol/ is it possible that what we are seeing now with europe and USA had happend before? All this cuckery and SJW faggotry is just us reaching the pinacle of civilization and now we are spiralling toward a singularity?
Its almost like people have some self destruction switch that was pulled.
>inb4 jew
>inb4 bad gramma
>>68007409
It's very similar to the end of rome.
They also had low birth rates, enemies of slavery and gladiator games all over the place, people advocating to take in gothic refugees.
Pretty frigtening.
The empire is quickly collapsing.
The major question now is who will rise from the fall of western civilization.
>Weimar republic
>>68007591
China and loo. Long live Asia
>>68007591
to be honest I think it will be the muslimes.
simple organisms tend to survive more. than they evolve and BTFO again. its like poetry.
>>68007409
Remember this time friends never let it escape your mind. Those of us who survive the fall must rebuild a nation designed to prevent the mistakes of the past.
>>68007546
Ive read satyricon long time ago. The degeneracy is pretty similiar too what we are seeing now.
>>68007788
they don't produce anything now and they won't produce anything in the future
>>68007788
This makes sense, the goths ruined Rome and became the super power, so the Muslims will ruin us and become the super power.
>>68008027
Well, at the time the goths didn't build much, and look at us now :^) .
>>68008027
its not about production. they dont fuck around as much as us. USA was superior to vietnam, but got BTFO.
They have people willing to blow them self up for some fairy tail bullshit and we have guys that willingly cut off their own dick and are deemed heroes.
>>68008066
its highly possible, we are about to enter new dark age.
>>68008027
Except algebra, coffee, surgery, cameras, etc
>>68009389
They stole that from Persia, India, Greece, Asia etc.
>>68009389
Yeah, but apart from all their inventions and trades,
>>68009522
>Muslim denying his own history
learn some grammar ya jew.
>>68009888
will obey trips
>>68009784
Har de har har nice meme Britain.
>>68009389
>surgery
>>68010097
well you have to do some research for this shit
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292306.php
Do people actually think hajis are a threat to the US?
guys pull your heads out of your asses and look around. We're being invaded by Mexicans, not akbars
>>68009937
Yeah, you got the blood of Aristotle and Plato running thorough you. No need to be so deluded, Turk
>>68010299
they are for europe, but the liberal cuckoldry and SWJ, BLM faggotry is thread to all white countires
>>68010199
¿Por que no las dos?
>>68010299
>mfw actually from the US
>>68010444
Por favor esse
>>68010428
meant for >>68010199
I always find this blame of progressive ideas as empire falling funny,
The fall is people accepting on mass regressive ideas. Like retreating into barbaric fundamentalist religious ideas or accepting new religions with more regressive ideas than what they had before. People rejected Roman values in favour of Christian to the point of throwing out all of the technological and architectural advances of Rome as if it was tainted by "gays" or some shit and evil.
Arguably the middle east itself has gone into a dark ages as it has slipped back into a form of barbaric fundamentalist Islam. They didn't turn into a shit hole because they gave equal rights to gays and shit it is precisely the opposite. They deny their own historical and even recent more progressive ideas in favour of putting bin bags over their women out of a fear of woman being seen is going to lead to "empire falling"
>>68011018
this sounds reasonable
it drives me not, how moder day comedians are advocating political correctness, when in 1950 they were fighting for free speech.
I cant process how we got here from the paradise that were the 90.
>>68007788
Islam will procude nothing but ruins. When the west falls it will take everything else with it.
>>68007409
Yeah it's happened to every empire in human history.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
Educate yo self
>>68011860
Forgot pic
>>68011860
thanks anon.
i will check it out
>>68011018
>being this much in denial
Burn forever progressive scum
>>68011447
If you go around calling everyone a faggot and get beaten up for it. Will you cry "muh free speech"?
That is in a sense the basics of "political correctness". Also when people cry PC they generally also stand on a bias position. If you stood on a podium in the US and said "Christianity is a fucking joke, only the delusional would follow such a thing". The very people that bitch about PC will attack you for saying such a thing and think such things shouldn't be said and therefore meaning what you said isn't PC.
>>68011018
>People rejected Roman values in favour of Christian to the point of throwing out all of the technological and architectural advances of Rome as if it was tainted by "gays" or some shit and evil.
What the fuck. How are this stupid?
>>68012353
>Rome didn't actually fall, nothing was lost
>>68007409
There is nothing new under the sun
>>68012353
Progressivism has invariably been, and today unquestionably is the driving force behind the decline of human apex civilizations, or empires.
And you know what, I'm sorry for that "burn forever" comment earlier. I know how attractive of a philosophy it can be. Shit, sometimes I wish things like a basic income and government paid abortion on demand and fully legalized drugs could work out. But as pie in the sky as all those things are, we live in a reality where they are not feasible.
Understanding that progressive thought stems from too long a period of peace and prosperity, lack of sense of duty, etc and using that to temper your progressive tendencies is, in my mind, the only way we're gonna escape the current cycle of racial empires and get to what I call the "Star Trek" society.
>>68007546
>It's very similar to the end of rome
Was going to say this, it's basically Rome all over again. No one wants to bother learning from history though.
>>68012978
Oh yeah that's clearly what you said in your first and I clearly disagreed with that statement specifically you disingenuous cunt.
>>68013013
For example, is immigrating a million poo in loo Ph.Ds going to hurt us or help us? Even though it undermines racial homogeneity I would argue it would help our country thrive.
But what about 5 million uneducated Islamists? Much less likely to integrate, much more likely to be on the dole, cause conflict...
The tragedy is that the issue is presented as "immigration vs closed borders" when the answer is controlled admission of skilled individuals.
And on and on...
>>68013013
What do you consider the decline of civilization or empires?
I mean if people accepted progressive ideas to infinity. There would be no change and therefore no fall. The ideas have to shift to initiate a fall so what do you think they shift too?
>>68007409
The better question is why do we keep letting it happen?
>>68012978
He's right you know. Rome splintered into petty kingdoms and quickly rebuilt itself as a new entity. The city of Rome had been burned to the ground plenty of times but that never set the Empire back. The fact is Charlemagne and his contemporaries continued education in the same way, if not better, than Rome. I'd say the largest loss was not being able to Engineer Roman concrete since that stuff was amazing. Otherwise mathematics, astronomy, physics, all continued on their same growth patterns, especially in Byzantium (Technically Rome) and the middle east. Christianity never went full Islam levels of retarded and stagnation.
>>68013405
Are you implying an Indian PhD is the same as one obtained here?
>>68013191
Yes it is what I said and that image is just a bunch of strawman bullshit from the "discussion boards" he hung around in.
For Rome to fall people had to reject Rome ideas and values. Roman technology and architecture was throughout the empire, it has all been dug up and shit since. People turned away from that and went towards the next thing which happened to be predominantly Christianity. You would have to reject the decline and even the fall of the empire ever happening to go against that fact.
>>68013901
>bunch of strawman bullshit from
Not even close. You're honestly going to perpetuate the christian dark ages myth on this board? Good luck.
>>68013657
Well then nuke the world and reach the Anglo nirvana already.
>>68013767
>Christianity never went full Islam levels of retarded and stagnation.
The Islam that we're currently importing in Europe will. This time we're in for the actual Dark Ages
>>68013405
Brain drain is only compounding the problem though. Educated and skilled people leave their home countries rather than help build it into a sustainable nation. Look at India, they're having issues with every doctor and engineer leaving and the country is full of idiots. Add on the caste system and it's doomed to fail
>>68014031
I'd nuke Erdogan and his mates :^)
And that pedo turk on 4chan
It may have something to do with breeding, we tend to shun violent behavior and women breed with more sensitive manlet types. Meaning aggressiveness is less desirable and starts getting breed out. What you are left with ends up being underdeveloped males, but this is both physically and mentally the case. Imagine if you left small irrational children in charge of countries, and this is what you get. Women in the military that can't hack it, but have to be there or someone's feels get hurt; mixing cultures that honestly are FAR too different to mix, but 'we can all get along guize'
A group of leaders who were fully developed rational males, with cold hearts would have seen the 'arab spring' and rapefugee crisis as dangerous, and would have called in the militaries to send them back or kill them, one way or another the problem would have been solved. What we have instead are neutered man-children and what passes for feminists making completely irrational decisions and no one has the balls to do anything about it because it's been breed out, also people have become weak and stupid from all this peace and multiculturalism and truly cannot seem to understand the threat that faces them. We are victims of our own success and peace.
>>68007546
Naw, Rome had 350 years of civil war after which it was too weak and the vandals invaded. Eastern Roman Empire was strong as ever anyway and lasted another 1000 years.
Rome had no succession system so it was very unstable. Every time an emperor was assassinated it was a free for all among all generals and armies.
>>68013767
interesting question would be, if during every cycle that this happen we reach higher level of knowledge and technology, will the regression during the cycle be also bigger and worse than before?
>>68014012
>Not even close
Try reading your own image, he literally said the "discussion boards" he hung around in. It would be very easy to make a big strawman argument over a bunch of retarded shit someone says on /pol/ but only an idiot would accept it at face value.
Which is it, the empire either fell or it didn't? I don't really care if "this board" doesn't want to accept facts or not. That is up to each individual.
>>68010199
Despite being christain and somewhat western, Hispanics are easily corruptible and arabs would have no problem sneaking into their populations
>>68007409
>ctrl+f
>Sodom
>Gomorrah
>0 results
>>68014225
>Naw, Rome had 350 years of civil war after which it was too weak and the vandals invaded.
You mean like the Franco-Prussian war and both World Wars?
>>68014253
Fundimentalist Islam will see to a major technological set back in the world. BUT only the countries they live in. Countries in the Far East and South America will likely pick up the slack as the academics in the wealthy European countries will just move as they have the income and skills to do so. The poor will suffer but when haven't they whenever there is a shift in power. Roman engineers didn't drop dead when the Empire splintered, they relocated or integrated. Liken the surge of Islam to the Mongols. They swooped in, knocked everyone's blocks down, then died. That will happen again as it has in the past.
>>68014627
I don't know. The more shitskin you are the more racist you get
The least racist people are actually white folk
The only way other peoples would get into Third World nations is by the sheer stupidity of the latter
>>68014705
If Yaw*h blows up Berlin then we can talk about Sodom and Gammorah
>>68014469
>Which is it, the empire either fell or it didn't?
Why are you acting like this is what is being debated? Nobody is denying the empire fell. Most people are sick of fedoras trying to blame it on the christian church.
>>68013767
If you want to say the Byzantine Empire was just the Roman empire then you could arguably say the Roman empire never fell until possibly even 1923 when the Ottoman Empire fell. No one really looks at it like that though. The fall of Rome lead to Byzantine Empire and all the rest in the west which is more what I was referring too.
>>68008066
I don't think the muslims (an external threat) is killing your civ. Is something from within and, geez, I wonder what is it.
>>68015054
The Ottomans did not carry the legacy of Rome at all. You can't compare the two. Byzantium was in all rights Rome, but towards the 1300s and so forth it wasn't as outward. Also consider that names change all the time, especially during those eras.
>omg it's the last days of rome!!
fucking hyperbolic nerds, call me when US presidents start getting killed by their male lovers and then we can make comparisons
>>68007736
>china
maybe India, but chinks cucked themselves with retard communism and the one-child policy
maoism killed china and they won't resurrect it soon
>>68015027
Yet I never said it was the christian church as if it was some entity that itself came in and attacked Rome. I said it was a rejection of Roman values and ideas for something they perceived as better or was pressed upon them by others. It just so happens Christian ideas were what filled that void as they were ripe to take place. If people did not reject Rome then how could Rome fall?
>>68015334
In what sense did one carry the legacy and the other not?
>>68014801
uh-oh
>>68007409
Redpill video on Israelis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdiDb0uSz3U
>>68013895
My fiancée's parents got their masters degrees in India and came to the US for their Ph.Ds, Indian education is fine as long as you're middle class or above. Like, I'm talking perfect English speaking, shitting inside in proper toilets, etc.
>>68007409
>>68007409
We are witnessing the end of an age. What we see now has happened before, to different people in different times throughout history. History isn't a linear development with an ever brighter future driven by "Progress" - this is the great arrogance of the modern era. History is cyclical. The doctrine of the four ages was known to ancient man, and only modern man in his hubris has decided that he has no use for it.
In the Ghibelline Middle Ages a grand attempt was made to revive the world of Tradition, though the Guelps would prove victorious over them, and Protestantism would cripple the soul of the Teutons. This was the beginning of the end. All that has happened since that time has been disastrous, and could only have led to the current situation. The Golden Age of the Holy Roman Empire devolved into the Silver Age of initiatic cults, the Masons and Rosicrusians, and this age was turned on its head by the French and American Revolutions. This age, too, came to pass as The Third Estate overthrew its bourgeois masters - it could have happened no other way, for the seeds of modernity would be scattered throughout Europe in 1789 and 1848 especially.
And what did these seeds contain? The "Great Leveling." The triumph of "economic man," the advent of rule by the spiritually destitute - the Dark Age, the Age of Kali (Iron Age, to the Hellenes). Capitalism and Marxism dominated every facet of life, and though they were understood as diametric opposites, in truth they were terribly similar. They were both egalitarian in the deepest sense of the word, and both led to the domination of the spiritually superior by Pariahs.
Now Marxism has subverted and fused with capitalism, and the worst elements of each materialist ideaology have become one. This does not signify the "End of History," as a particularly miopic observer has claimed, but merely the end of an age.
And this age, too, will pass.
>>68007546
Was it the Jews last time, too?
>>68007409
We will change it this time trust me we're far enough advanced that people like us can stop the degeneration
>>68016815
Except the "Marxism" in the economy has been progressively removed for over 30 years.
>>68007409
IT did happen before.
IT was called the Weimar Republic.
>>68011018
>Arguably the middle east itself has gone into a dark ages as it has slipped back into a form of barbaric fundamentalist Islam
Mecca is ruled by Wahhabists. The Islamic world is being destroyed from the top down by the only Muslim family on earth that's an ally with Israel.
>>68018670
And then they wonder why ISIS is so popular among Muslims.
>Czech republic
>pinacle of civilization
>>68014801
Wtf do those wars have to do with Rome? I'm talking about the Imperial period of Rome, the crisis of the third century Ad.
>>68016815
Ghibelline Germany wasn't the Golden Age silly anon. The Golden Age was near 10,000 years ago in Hyperborea. Your timeline is too bunched together.
>>68018988
>comparison with Rome is not accurate because they had civil war
>Western world has been embroiled in war for centuries
It's okay, some people are born retarded.
>>68018988
He's saying that the Western world has two of those three hundred years of war checked off already.
Hey guys I know Carl in real life this thing is getting a little out of hand. He gave valid points for why he supported Bernie and opposed Trumps fascism and one time we touched wieners in second grade.
>>68019225
That's a pretty bad comparison. Those wars weren't a civil war, they were competition between European states. Really all three of them were about readjusting the balance of power due to the creation of unified German statehood. It sucks you guys all lost your colonies in the process but desu that's because you socially lost the will to hold them after you lost your dynasties.
Anyway your former colonies aren't a military threat to you. These situations are not similar.
>>68019611
>ARE YOU KIDDING ME
okay
>>68019664
>Those wars weren't a civil war, they were competition between European states.
What about the American civil war?
Was that a civil war or just a war between American states?
>>68011018
Oi, don't talk about me religion ever again.
>>68020099
That was a civil war. What about it? Are you trying to argue that the US is weaker now than before the civil war?
>>68020523
>What about it?
You can't provide an accurate definition of 'civil war'.
>what is The Fate of Empires
>>68019042
The cycle reiterates m8. In broad terms, yes, the Golden Age was the rule of the gods ("Watchers", if you want) in Hyperborea. Evola argues that smaller cycles imitate the grand cycle of four ages throughout history - so there were smaller cycles in pre-Columbus America, which terminated, in Rome, in Western Europe, etc.
>>68021013
Modern civilization has reached it's peak now. Like Rome it will collapse while Asia remains largely static until the next one shows up.
>>68020523
>>68020717
Most civil wars are lost wars for independence. Our revolution would have been called a civil war if we lost. The Civil War would have been called a revolution if the South won.
In a sense the world wars could be seen like this, ie France was conquered and freed by allies and with some domestic terrorism.
>>68007409
Yes --
>Russian Revolution of 1917
>Vietcong
>Communist China
>Nazism
>Communist Cuba
>North Korea
>Muslim Conquests
>Feudalism
>KKK
>Obamacare
>Taxation without representation
>Government looking out for its own interest -- on behalf of itself
>Equality of outcomes
>Liberalism, Liberals
>Totalitarianism
Each a product of intellectuals who bring their ideas to life through force and imposition -- not by choice, individual freedom.
