Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.
Did they have computers? No? Checkmate, mate.
except for all the lead poisoning
>>68003680
>Needing computers when you have gladiatorial games
>>68003578
>implying they lived in ruins
>>68003717
>dissing delicious aqueduct nectar because its """"poisonous""""
>>68003987
That's not what I was implying, its just a painting m8
The time of the 5 good emperors was possibly one of the greatest periods in history
>>68003680
Yeah, because the advent of the internet has clearly improved our lives
WHY DID WE HAVE TO FALL, FELLOW ROMANS?! WHY!?!?!? FUCK!
>>68004077
>in recorded history*
bonobo chimps sit around all day and fuck.
that period of history for humans was probably the best
>>68003578
the civilizations that exists before the inferno was superior
the civilizations that existed before the deluge was not as good but still better than rome
America today is better than rome and we will soon be better than the civilizations in the middle of my comment.
>>68004177
Because they lost their way
Christianity and hippie philosophy made Rome soft and their enemies took advantage of it.
Roman polytheism should have never died off.
Commodus was also a sort of the turning point, he should have never been made princeps.
:^)
>>68004339
debunked
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/3353342/Bonobos-not-all-peace-and-free-love.html
>>68003578
factually it's HRE.
There are more than 25 000 palaces and castles in Germany.
>>68003578
>Rome
>Better than Mongols
>MY EMPIRE WHEN
>>68004421
The British Empire is the one with the best reason for existence, the expansion and posterity of the Anglo-Saxon people.
>>68004602
>empire
>>68004602
>Lots of land
>WOW, there's fucking nothing here
they had sex with animals
they were poor as shit
they stole everything from the lands they conquered before claiming it as their own
they never conquered ireland
etc
>>68004609
*the Grace of God
>>68004602
It would have been great if Berke and friends of the Golden Horde didn't convert to shitslam and start the internal conflicts breaking it up.
>>68003578
I always wonder what it would've been like to be born just a couple hundred years after the fall, to live in and around ruins from a civilization you'd only heard about from your elders, who themselves only barely remember their parents telling them what it was like to live in Rome.
I always get a profound sense of loss when I see ruins, and it can be hard to look past the rubble and see the living city it used to be.
>>68004683
why the fuck would you want ireland
>>68004818
I know that feel ;_;
>>68004821
redhead qts
unlimited sheeps
>>68004421
Still is. We technically never lost, only grew independence.
Except for this liberals.
>>68003578
IF THEY"RE SO GREAT, WHY ARE THEY DEAD
>>68004151
Are you fucking kidding me, of course it has. Just because you're a fucking loser NEET who shitposts in /pol/ all day doesn't mean you can deny that the quality of life for the majority of the human race has been better in the past 20 years than any other period before then.
>>68003578
nazi reich was better thb
>>68004944
point well made, I take it back
>>68004491
>female dominated system, women occasionally hunts for monkeys for food
>like all the other chimps
>2 out of 3 monkey hunts fail
>they just go back to eating small critters
Im still not seeing a flaw here
Youtube vid of negroids eating monkey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FjVsApOm44
>>68004944
why did wales never conquer ireland
>>68003680
>What is the antikythera mechanism which is considered as the first computer on earth
>>68003578
First off, WAS is the keyword, which means eventually it tanked and so therefore WAS NOT. In addition:
Rome is no longer around.
Romans used lead drinking vessels.
High rate of STI's
Romans had a cultural practice of eating till they barfed, then they would eat more.
Rome put all knowledge into one place, which burned.
Rome was full of lead poisoned, barfing pseudo intellectualism. Rome has fallen, Rome sucked.
PROTIP: ROME IS DEAD, you will be too one day.
>>68005187
Rome only sucked after the 200's AD
Stop being a negative cuck
>>68004818
The decay was so long in coming I don't think that anyone could remember the good old days
Living amongst the ruins of a greater civilization that had past fit in nicely with the idea of Christianity that the world was coming to its inevitable end.
>>68004421
>Swiss are mountain Jews
>British are boat Jews
Literally none of those places were relevant, at least French expansion in Europe involved defeating German states and often entire European alliances.
>>68005431
>this much cruz control
>>68005031
Tbqh if I could I would gladly go back to 20 years ago
>>68005031
>deny that the quality of life for the majority of the human race has been better in the past 20 years than any other period before then.
>for the majority of the human race
[citation needed]
>>68005120
>What is the antikythera mechanism
Fucking terrifying to think this level of tech existed and was lost once. Humanity losing the thread of civilization (again) is my greatest fear regarding the species, next to outright extinction.
>>68005364
Grazing farmer's herds or whatever in the shadow of the aqueducts must've been a strange feeling for those who had no idea what they were or where they came from. It doesn't help that all that Roman stuff turns white when there aren't romans around to paint it, making everything look skeletal.
>>68005591
>Fucking terrifying to think this level of tech existed and was lost once
you think a shitty oversized calculator is impressive?
the byzantines literally had NEPALM FLAME THROWERS mounted on ships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire
>>68003578
Basically any 17th century nationstate eclipsed Rome, but they did great for their time and laid the foundations for the future.
>>68005018
Rome was founded in 753BC
The Western part of the empire fell in 476
The Eastern part of the empire fell in 1453
So the true romans -as i consider only the WRE as true romans- existed for 1229 years...
If you consider the eastern part as roman too, it 's 2206 years
this makes them one of the longest existing nations ever
>>68005760
>mix naphtha with some other shit
>figure out how a pump works
>instant flamethrower
I'm infinitely more impressed by the gearing in the mechanism than I am by basic hydraulics. That said, it must have made soldiers shit themselves to suddenly see a stream of fire leap out of a neighboring ship and catch your sails alight.
>>68005120
can someone explain how the Antikythera Mechanism is considered a computer?
I've been interested in it for awhile but how is it different than any other astronomical compass?
>>68003578
Ay hol up
even Rome had DEM PROGRAMS, gnome'sayin?
>>68005760
>oversized calculator
It predicted all sun eclipses, how much of the sun/moon would be covered and the exact time of the eclipse. There is a documentary about it, its pretty genius.
Meanwhile you are getting excited about some petroleum byproduct.
A CONSOLE OF ROME
>>68004416
t. german apologist
>>68006200
>console
>>68006059
As far as I understand, you can input different settings to calculate different information, like
>>68006123
debnt-anon said. The documentary is pretty great, worth seeing just for the recreation they make of it.
>>68006041
Didn't China have a more or less unbroken line of succession for like 5000 years or some shit? Or is that just"we wuz empire 'n shit" talk?
>>68006045
we actually don't know what the stuff was made out of. it was a closely guarded state secret and the secret died with the byzantine emperors.
>it must have made soldiers shit themselves to suddenly see a stream of fire leap out of a neighboring ship and catch your sails alight.
more so when you consider that the stuff would still burn on the surface of water, and pouring water on the fire only made it spread, you could only put it out by suffocation
>>68006347
It's a meme you dip.
>>68006347
>being this new
feel free to lurk moar
>>68003578
Then why is it not here today senpai?
>>68003578
>Rome was
(Roman empire)
Where is it now?
BTFO
>>68003578
>Gladiators
>slavey
>decimation
>pedophilia
>homosexuality
They deserved every bit of their fall.
>>68004339
Go read "Stone Age Economics" by Marshall Salins and then realize that he is 100% BTFO buttrekt wrong
>>68003578
Make Bathhouses Great Again
>>68006041
Byzantines should probably be considered 'true Romans' up until the Heraclian dynasty, which primaily spike Greek instead of the traditional Latin.
After the Arab invasions especially,
Byzantium goes through some important internal changes which really begin to divide it from the old WRE in political style and social norms
>>68003578
romans where doing a lot of homosex
>>68006363
Definitely had naphtha in it, whatever it was, but yeah it's a bummer that information like greek fire or damascus steel gets lost to the ages.
>>68006493
>implying America is not Rome 3.0
>>68006574
Looks like a flemish flag
>>68006516
>Implying gladiators and slavery was bad
>>68004416
rome fell because of moral decadence and weak emporers and paganism didn't even die out until rome was already fucked
>>68006516
Not seeing your point pham
>>68006678
Enjoying the art man keep it up
>>68006041
This
Its fucking incredible
>>68005591
Supposedly the Library of Alexandria had a one of a kind steam engine.. I sometimes wonder if it had never been destroyed we might be hundreds of years ahead technologically.
>>68006200
Consul dumbass
>>68004151
Bait
>>68007072
I will never not be mad
Caesar should have lived
>>68003578
REMOVE ROMAN
>>68007105
pagan temples were also in great competition for what we would call magic tricks involving smoke, fire, gravity defying performances, etc. for a spectacle to win converts and donations. I think an interest in scientific discovery can be traced back to the sense of wonder these shows produced.
If they're so great, where are they now?
OP status:
[ ] not BTFO
[ ] BTFO
[x] bull prepped, cucked AND royallu BTFO
>>68007105
>hundreds of years
Or more
>>68007451
ISIS will blow this up.
>>68007420
All civilisations rise and fall friend, the western Romans existed for well over a thousand years. In comparison America has only been around for nearly 250.
>>68007216
What does this depict?
>>68007642
I want to fug that statue
>>68007105
>Supposedly the Library of Alexandria had a one of a kind steam engine..
Nah. Heron of Alexandria made a steam engine but had nothing to do with it. They didn't understand what they could do with it.
>>68007642
even ancient romans liked underboob
>>68007805
his helmet looks like a circumcised penis yo
>>68003578
>not Hyperborea
Are you even initiated? Rome confirmed for Iron age. Rome wishes she had Hyperborea's Golden Age status.
>>68007929
This is the personification of the ancient goddess Britannia
>>68007864
this shit makes me want to fight Ornstein and Smough
>>68007602
>that fucking horse
>>68008035
Britannia isn't a goddess. It's the personification of the island of Britain. No different than Arianne in france or Columbia in the US.
>>68008035
they tended to make the statues pretty androgynous
>>68006723
These aren't niggers we are talking about, these were human beings who were tossed into pits with lions and forced to cut each other's throats.
Pretty much exactly what the Jews love, goyim killing each other fighting for their entertainment.
>>68007105
>institutionalized child rape and murder are OK
Art does not redeem a cesspit of evil.
>>68007265
Without Caesar no Octavian Augustus Caesar and then Marcus Aurelius. The act was evil but that which came afterwards wasn't and would be at risk on any other course of action.
>greatest civilization on earth
>destroyed by Jesus Christ
Okay.
>>68003578
>>68004177
>>68004943
>>68006179
>>68006616
>>68006678
>>68006935
>>68006971
>>68007030
>>68007072
>>68007105
>>68007280
>>68007492
>>68007673
Daily reminder that all these paintings were created no sooner than 1400 years after the fall of the Roman """"empire"""" and bear no resemblance whatsoever to actual daily life therein.
>>68006971
>>68008344
>western civilization
>currently being destroyed by muslims
hmmmm
Romans destroyed the Celts, the last good inhabitants on the European mainland continent. The last good culture.
After that, autistic Germanic invaders came and built all the cuck nations that ruin Europe today with rapefugees. Germany, Austria, Belgium, England, Denmark, Sweden, Eastern France, all have roots in Germanic proto-cuck culture.
Fuck Romans
Fuck Germanics
>>68008276
The Empire was a mistake honestly
Caesar would have made Roma great again but a bunch of rich chucklefucks killed him, then Octavian filled the power vacuum and well the rest is history.
Its interesting to think what the world would be like had Caesar passed his reforms and stood down. Whether or not the rejuvenated republic could have survived as long or not I always wonder.
>Greatest civilization
>United States of America
Pick both.
>>68008595
Forgot image.
>>68008396
Not sure why you're pointing out the obvious but thanks.
In terms of organization it blows away everything else except maybe for China taking into account that its height was in 117AD, almost 2000 years of technological advancements ago.
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJBDkHXt75o
>>68008344
Monotheistic religions are a fucking mistake
All of them
Especially shitslam
>>68008722
More ancient lolis
>>68008805
this is art sir
>>68003987
Kek
>>68008587
Caesar was never stepping down. The entire Roman culture is poisonous, just an ambitious twist on Greek culture. It "started" with Tiberius Gracchus, but Rome was always going to implode when you have such a poisonous culture
Romans were never good at anything besides fucking each other over and bureaucracy. They weren't natural inventors, philosophers, anything. They were bloodthirsty accountants.
>>68003578
Arma virumque cano, Troiae qui primus ab oris Italiam fato profugus Laviniaque venit
litora
Anyone who had to study this text by heart too for latin class in high school?
>>68008221
> these were human beings who were tossed into pits with lions and forced to cut each other's throats.
Gladiators were fucking celebrities, they were treated like royalty, and they were usually Gladiators by choice. Throwing slaves into a ring and watching them butchered would have been considered barbaric and very unsportsmanlike by the Romans. Stop getting your """"history"""" from Hollywood. Gladiator is pure bullshit.
>>68008736
Christianity didn't even lift a finger. Rome did all the heavy lifting against them but the Christians happily went to their death.
This only increased the followers and Rome undid itself.
Rome failed to conquer people without swords but simply beliefs in a Kingdom in Heaven.
>>68008975
>Caesar was never stepping down
According to who? He did it once before, why wouldn't he do it again?
>>68004818
You got me, bro. Never thought about it like that.
most of the picture posted here aren't even roman
>>68008868
Yeah sure just post more ancient lolis :^)
>>68003578
Faggots as fuck.
Read satiricon, eneidas, filemons biography ,petronio, plubio.... They were masters in conquering countries and anuses. Literally gigacucks.
this is the correct answer, we italians are the master race. white pride world wide
>>68009242
Most of the faggots, including the faggot emperor Hadrian, were Spanish. Explain yourself.
>>68005031
>Are you fucking kidding me
>>68009242
So basically. Romans were Muslims.
>just got through commidus
>entering into the year of the five emperors.
>the free fall has begun
I miss Claudius.
Who was your favorite underrated emperor?
>>68009387
>comparing the great marble city to sand and allahu ackbar
Fuck off
>>68009409
Majorian is underrated. Aurelian as well.
>>68008711
Is this real?
as in the same notes and structure they would have used back then
>>68009471
I hate to say it but Muslims do have lots of marble and such.
Does that make them any better?
>>68009409
Claudius was pretty great. Vespasian was pretty great too. Antonius Pius was probably the best to live under.
>>68009551
Nah m8 I wish, their music was much simpler IIRC.
>>68009654
>dat ass
>>68009724
>>68009596
Horney slut statue.
>>68009016
>slave murder only happened some of the time!
>>68009409
Are you listening to THoR podcast? If so I'm up to exactly where you are
>>68009828
Where do you want those goalposts moved man
>>68004151
You're using it to instantly argue with people thousands of kilometers away from you
ENUT ROMINUS DONUT
>>68009923
>say thing happened
>"Well it didn't happen that much!"
It still happened, and it was still institutionalized you mong.
>>68009724
That's a fine ass.
>>68006971
Oh yeah, I remember the story behind this one. There was this woman in ancient Greece being charged with blasphemy, for which the sentence was death. So, she stripped off all her clothes to show off her beauty so as to say "How could I have committed blasphemy when the gods saw fit to bless me with this body? And you would have it destroyed?" and it worked. The charge was dropped.
>>68010021
I didn't say it happened, it didn't happen. Maybe once or twice but like I said, that sort of thing was looked down upon. Your entire opinion is based on the fact that you think Gladiators were shitty slaves. Gladiators were professionals, like football players. Or more accurately like race horses. They were trained, massaged, bathed, fucked tons of women; overall had great lives. Until they were mauled by a tiger of course.
>>68008154
she was made a goddess in 200AD and worshiped by the Britannic Celts. But you are also right
>>68006971
>"how does this make you feel, /a/?"
>>68009899
Yea, Im kinda sad. Been a great podcast after going through all of hardcore history
>>68009012
Yeah, me.
Loved that you learned the "Laviniaque" version. I always dislike it when they try to make it fit the meter uber-perfectly with the variant "Lavinaque" without the second i.
>>68010517
Its great, I wish he went into more detail on Meditations though. Its a really fantastic insight into Marcus' thoughts.
>>68003578
In terms of Ideas? Yes.
Best civilization?
Currently, I think so, but we are STILL discovering ancient City States.
Until them though, Romans be top
>>68010517
Oh by the way you should read The Masters Of Rome series by Colleen McCullough
Probably among the best books on Rome ever written
Caesars women and Caesar are the best
>>68010315
>it didn't happen except for when it did
Get your act together australia
>>68004602
>Rome
>Cities upon cities, aqueducts, statesmen, architecture
>Mongols
>Grass and dirt with some slaves and a few horses
>>68010952
Mate its my job is to shitpost, not yours.
>>68003578
I liked the Romans, they had things sussed out, strong rule of law and property rites, capitalist, if you were a citizen. Slave ownership which answered the black, homosexual, Jewish problems. Great engineers, great military tacticians. Probably the worst plumbers in the history of our galaxy though in their choice of lead pipe.
Rome was a nice place until creamskins came into the Empire and fucked everything up.
>>68004151
>I'm a fat loser who only uses the internet to fap to my waifu and shitpost on a forum
>the internet isn't all that great
You're pathetic.
The internet has literally accelerated every fucking thing.
>>68011134
>Rome
don't forget prepubescent fuckbois
>>68004818
I feel this way about Egypt, it's my favorite ancient civilization.
I feel like if magic was ever real, it was in Egypt.
Worst part is, is that none of these civilizations had any means of visual recording (like pictures or videos, not paintings or reliefs), we'll never get to see or even hear exactly what it was like.
Like if the modern world falls, there would be tapes, CDs and computer data that you could possibly one day recover again if you figure out how, but there's nothing like that for the ancients.
>>68007642
>>68012159
It could just be fanciful tinfoilery, but have you heard Graham Hancock's ideas about the initial rise of civilization occurring much earlier than is believed, on the order of 15,000+ years back? He proposes that most evidence of civilization that far back has been destroyed by time and human activity, or in a few cases are attributed to later cultures as you can't really date stone.
I think some of his stuff is a bit out there, but it's interesting to think about what evidence would be left of even advanced cities like ours after an ice-age was through scouring half the continent with glacial ice.
>>68008975
>Romans were never good at anything besides fucking each other over and bureaucracy. They weren't natural inventors, philosophers, anything. They were bloodthirsty accountants.
Eh, I dunno. Definitely not inventors, but at least some tried a hand at philosophy, even if along very Greek lines (like the Stoic / Epicurean / Academic divide). Lucretius' didactic poem De Rerum Natura is one of our main sources of Epicureanism...
Romans were also lawyers. In fact, I once saw a scholar make the comment (jokingly) that Romans spent so much creative energy in rhetoric that they hardly had energy to invent things in anything else... This scholar pointed out how Roman rhetoric treatises manuals like Cicero's De Oratore and De Inventione, Quintilian's Institutio Oratoria and the anonymous Rhetorica ad Herennium are still used today by people getting (deep) into oratory.
>>68004609
I will never forgive You mean the the Jewish empire
>>68011916
I still do find it incredible that the norm among Roman men was to like both women and young fucbois. Normative bisexuality, imagine.
>>68006123
Thales predicted eclipses few hundred years before with just paper and ink
>>68003578
>greatest civilization on earth
>not by white people
I'm not surpised
>>68013429
They didn't have such a thing as homo or hetero, what they had is masculinity and femininity.
It is masculine to force a dude to suck your dick or to rape his ass, while being the receiver is feminine and pathetic as fuck.
The thing they found most despicable on the other hand were men who would eat women's pussies.
>>68013429
Isn't like the same for Muslim men though? I heard it's all the rage in Afghanistan. They justify it by saying "he is one of those types of boys"... and my wife wasn't around. So it's a sexual emergency.
I also find it incredible how Christian monks actually let pass down some very non-Christian texts down the ages. Ever heard of the Priapeia poems, poems spoken by or to Priapus? Here's a typical one:
Obliquis quid me, pathicae, spectatis ocellis?
non stat in inguinibus mentula tenta meis.
quae tamen exanimis nunc est et inutile lignum,
utilis haec, aram si dederitis, erit.
(Priapeia 75)
Why do you sluts keep on looking at me with sidelong glances?
My cock is not standing erect from my groin.
Although right now it is vigourless and is unserviceable wood,
Build me an altar and it shall be of service to all.
>>68014003
And these poems are from the late 1st century BC or the early 1st century AD.
The truth was that Rome was a multi-ethnic Empire. Any true scholar with the slightest mastery of classics will attest to this. Any one who has had to write a thesis on Rome in at the Doctoral level would not contest this truth.
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
>>68013688
>Romans
>Not white
>>68004348
>we will soon be better than the civilations in the middle
bullshit, we wuz kangs before the deluge
>>68013757
>>68004602
nice proxy finnbro
>>68004348
Handing the reigns of power to you was our worst mistake, because of you degeneracy is rampant. Unless, by some miracle, you revert all this destruction you have created, then maybe you'll have a chance. Also, electing Trump is a start but it's a long road from there.
>>68015317
quality post
>>68003680
>needing a computer when you can just IRL shitpost the plebs at the forum
>>68005187
>The BDR came after the Nazis or the Holy Roman Empire, so the BDR must be better.
Your logic. I wouldn't even call it American logic because even Yanks are smart enough to understand what retarded dribble you've just spat.
>>68015688
this patrician gets it
>>68005865
Every global homogeny has done something for the world. Britain has just done more as a global homogeny.
The Victorian Era was literally the greatest era the world has ever seen. Most inventions came from then, and it revolutionised the world in all aspects.
>>68004683
Wtf is this map? How do I know if $857 is a lot if idk how much it costs to live there? If you only need $100 to live you're pretty well off
>>68003578
Daily remainder that all those glorious marble statues originally had shitty, flashy, bright, camp colours.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5616498/ultraviolet-light-reveals-how-ancient-greek-statues-really-looked
>>68005115
They had enough sheep.
>>68017375
>his eyebrows met
just pluck them for fuck sake
>>68014793
>Black intellectuals
>>68014793
this
only another black general like Scipio could defeat Hannibal the Moor
>>68012742
That is really interesting. Isn't the theory that the sphinx was originally just a lion, and as it decayed it was changed into a human?
>>68004421
What went wrong?
>>68003578
MUH KINGDOM OF MAN
>>68018517
One of the theories anyway, seems like a likely contender to me considering the odd scale between the head and paws. Egyptian archeology is kinda fucked right now too, they're literally covering the Sphinx up as a 'restoration' project, hiding the water damage on the sides. They were anyway, I don't know if work has started up again since the Arab Spring shit went down over there.
Hancock's ideas about it are worth looking into, even if some of his other stuff is sorta off the wall. He proposes that the Sphinx predates the oldest Egyptian cultures by thousands of years, and has ideas about why it's a lion based on ancient zodiac notions as it would have been built in the 'age of leo', some 11,000 years ago. I don't know shit about the zodiac, so it might just be timecube-level nonsense, but it's at least interesting as a thought experiment to consider.
>>68015526
>calling our country degenerate
gtfo you've got mudshits flooding your cities and people literally being beheaded in your streets while you guys bend over and ask for more immigration
a big reason for the fall of the roman empire was the germanic migration
and soon europe will fall because of muslim migration
Actually no, Rome was considered one of the most corrupt empires on earth and they never went to the moon.
Checkmate matey oy
http://www.beazley.ox.ac.uk/Gems/Scarabs/Images/Robs%20Images%2008/37.04m.jpg
>>68019886
>you guys bend over and ask for more immigration
But we don't.
>gtfo you've got mudshits flooding your cities
And you've got niggers and spics flooding yours.
>people literally being beheaded in your streets
Happened once, unlike your bi-weekly school shootings. Not saying it's good, though, but it's better than having school shootings every fortnight.
>>68006550
/fit/ in one picture
>>68006353
>Didn't China have a more or less unbroken line of succession for like 5000 years or some shit? Or is that just"we wuz empire 'n shit" talk?
yep, we wuz empire. China goes back surely to 1000 B.C. and very likely to 1500-1600 B.C. but what came before that is mythology not really lining up with archeology.
>>68003680
What has a computer done for you besides being something to stare at and Jack off to
>>68005760
yeah fugging gr8 amirite
>>68006123
shush το υγρο πυρ ηταν ωραιο επισης
