[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
TRUMP BANS MUSLIMS!
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /pol/ - Politically Incorrect

Thread replies: 186
Thread images: 35
File: maxresdefault2.jpg (74 KB, 1200x800) Image search: [Google]
maxresdefault2.jpg
74 KB, 1200x800
Trump wants to ban all muslims from entering to the US.

How to defend this statement with good examples and facts?

Help me out /pol/
>>
File: 1455572335545.jpg (464 KB, 800x542) Image search: [Google]
1455572335545.jpg
464 KB, 800x542
come on someone gotta help me out here

i srsly dont know how to defend his statement with facts
>>
>>67997860
Nice b8 faggot, get what he said right before asking questions
>>
>>67998041
islam is political

muslims will use political means to change america up to and including violent warfare
>>
>>67997860
>How to defend this statement with good examples and facts?

Watch your local and national news
>>
Its been done lots of times before. When US was in war with Germany they didnt allow Germans into the US. When they were in war with Russia they didnt Allow Russians etc.

Its nothing new.
>>
File: 1456413080204.jpg (128 KB, 969x684) Image search: [Google]
1456413080204.jpg
128 KB, 969x684
>>67997860
It's blatant racism plain and simple
>>
>>67998298
but they arent in war with "muslims" but terrorists.

Even though its the same thing...cant say that though or else no one will listen anymore
>>
>>67997860
Obama banned all Iraqis and no one batted an eye because he's a nigger and therefore cannot be racist nor an oppressor even if he has the world's most powerful army at his command.
>>
>>67998088
That was the message though?
>>
File: 1458386523006.jpg (70 KB, 1032x581) Image search: [Google]
1458386523006.jpg
70 KB, 1032x581
>>67997860
Easy
>>
>>67998395
its like saying that america was at war with the wehrmacht and not the german people.
>>
File: 1310949319525.jpg (2 KB, 126x95) Image search: [Google]
1310949319525.jpg
2 KB, 126x95
>watching Faux News last night
>mfw one of the BLM "leaders" Kelly had on actually thinks Trump said "Make America White Again"
>>
>>67998401
Obama banned all Iraqis not all Muslim's big difference you racist fuck
>>
>>67997860
Its our country and we don't want foreigners or another culture here. We have no obligation to let people in, they have no right to be here.
>>
>>67998461
i like you
>>
File: apologists btfo.png (315 KB, 1882x1210) Image search: [Google]
apologists btfo.png
315 KB, 1882x1210
>>67997860
Like this.
>>
>>67997860
Banning a group of people based on their religion is against the very founding principles of our Republic.

Ban from certain countries? Of course, but to arbitrarily state that since you are of a specific religion you cannot come here is Anti American in the extreme
>>
>>67998401
>>67998298
Give me a source on that.

I already knew about this, but I need a source that I can use to fuck their shit up with.
>>
>>67997860
Under U.S. Code, the president does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out of the country, for any reason he thinks best. Per 8 USC §1182:

“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
>>
>>67997860

even if he wins he can't do it, grandstanding claims he will is win/win for him:

>i will ban muslims!!!
>wins election
>president trump, we're sorry but you can't ban muslims
>"i tried, but dem dare pesky checks and balances"

the man is literally perfect
>>
>>67997860
>How to defend this statement with good examples and facts?
There's a whole book full of them called the Koran
>>
>>67997860

>Look at Sweden before Islam
>Look at Sweden after Islam
>Vote Trump
>>
>>67998576
Trump supporters are anti American they dont even think America is great
>>
>>67998512
Explain the difference, aside from the scale of the operation.
>>
>>67997860
>How to defend this statement

Muslims are subhuman scum
>>
>germany
>asking for evidence of islam fuckery

wew lad
>>
File: 4773860-2945510592-thing.jpg (19 KB, 640x275) Image search: [Google]
4773860-2945510592-thing.jpg
19 KB, 640x275
Muslims are like cancer, also comparable to the thing. You have to be cautious with them as they can reveal their true form any moment.
>>
So what? They are muslims.
>>
>>67998335
>Muslim
>Race
>>
>>67997860
Dr Bill Warner videos on youtube. Start there or fuck off.
>>
>>67998512
i would not be surprised if iraq was 100% muslim
>>
File: 1451811574062.jpg (192 KB, 720x700) Image search: [Google]
1451811574062.jpg
192 KB, 720x700
>>67997860
Muslims being Imported to nations is just an Excuse to impose Policed State & Destroy Freedom U.K. is a great Example

We have Always been Free to move around without threats to our lives besides for Nigger problems

Less Muslims = Less Chance of Suicide Bombers and Mass Murder, Rape, Genocide, Forced conversion

More Muslims = More Suicide Bombers, Mass Murder, Rape, Genocide, Forced conversion and the Excuse to take Away Freedoms and policed state

they need to be fully Deported so we can have things like Hydrogen Powered Car's witch is easy technology but can easily be made into a bomb in order for us to teach our people to be smart we cannot have Muslims here
>>
>>67997860
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

Statistics about the beliefs of muslims

About 50% of the population in muslim dominated countries want to stone adulterers to death.
>>
>>67997860
Obama did the same in 2011, it's a temporary ban.

We cannot risk national security's
>>
>>67998041
>>67997860
there's no way to defend plain xenophobia (hurrdurr muslims aren't a race anon !), he gets away with it because he's against other rightwinger who can't attack him on that because that would make them lose their republicans electorate

>>67998449
sometimes i wonder how this board can house so many retards, kinda amazing when you think about it, must be due to the high concentration of americans
>>
>>67998512
Islam is an ideology that is inherently antithetical to Western civilisation. Not all Iraqis are necessarily Muslim, many may be secular and perfectly capable of living by our rules, so Obama's ban is actually even more discriminatory than Trump's proposed one.
>>
>>67998670
banning all Iraqis is based on nationality and has been done before banning all Muslim's is based on religion and has never been done before because any discrimination based on religion is against the constitution

Big difference
>>
All this talk about Muslims. Fucking nonentity at the moment. We've been at war with radical Muslims for 40 years and they're called niggers.

Fucking niggers = disorganized Muslims with no prayer mat who bathe just as infrequently.
>>
File: 1457795791133.jpg (50 KB, 593x300) Image search: [Google]
1457795791133.jpg
50 KB, 593x300
>>67998788
fuck your temporary ban we need a permanent ban forever and only take in the people who are persecuted by Muslims
>>
>>67997860
He's not, and it's not even technically possible. How are you going to do it? Make them eat pork?
>>
File: Friendly Merchant man.png (364 KB, 720x1200) Image search: [Google]
Friendly Merchant man.png
364 KB, 720x1200
>>67998663
>Jewmerica is already great goyim
>>
>>67998869
People who aren't citizens aren't bound by the constitution
>>
File: 1456050608217.jpg (21 KB, 450x374) Image search: [Google]
1456050608217.jpg
21 KB, 450x374
>>
File: back_t0_reddit_faggot.jpg (141 KB, 717x880) Image search: [Google]
back_t0_reddit_faggot.jpg
141 KB, 717x880
>>67998663
>>
>>67998901
We don't need to take in a single goddamn immigrant you cuck!
>>
>>67998576
Look at
>>67999011
>>
>>67998823
Phobia implies irrational fear. It's rational to fear a death cult.
>>
File: Trump 80% Strength.png (598 KB, 750x414) Image search: [Google]
Trump 80% Strength.png
598 KB, 750x414
>>67998869
Islam is not a religion it's an extremist Ideal
that promotes vile hatred to anybody who isnt a Muslim same Goes or Jewish religion no other Religion has threats against Non people of their religion
>>
>>67998823
t. Ahmed
>>
File: 1457815621540.png (234 KB, 652x523) Image search: [Google]
1457815621540.png
234 KB, 652x523
>>67999033
i just said that nigger
>>
>>67998964
This and lets not ignore the facts that a majority of these terrorists are indeed muslim.

Why the fuck do people want to ignore statistics?
>>
>>67998783
Fuckin this.

It all really comes down to the question of what is more important, the safety of your citizens or making sure that people subscribed to an infamously barbaric religion are appeased to and don't feel left out?

Its not to say that all of them are terrorists, but there is enough of a percentage and potential for radicalization that the safest thing to do is to literally stop them at the gates, something the UK cant even do for itself.

And as for the freedoms being stripped away, kids are being arrested in schools for looking at the UKIP website and being branded as "racial extremists" while there are some islamic preachers out there who are literally radicalizing kids and nothing is being done.
>>
File: 1457202433740.jpg (136 KB, 408x367) Image search: [Google]
1457202433740.jpg
136 KB, 408x367
I know guys...i share most of your opinions but this is /pol/.
I can't talk with these naiv idiots like we talk to each other here.

I need something that they can't defend. Some statistics I got here are good but these fuckers will be like: to long i didnt read
or: This is from a site that is right wing

Thanks you guys for trying to help me out here
>>
>>67997860
Muslims are evil because their ideology is evil. Therefore keeping them out makes sense.

It really is that simple
>>
>>67998964
THIS! BRAVO 10/10
>>
>>67999118
It's Reddit I swear. You've seen their plans that they want to "secretly infiltrate us and make us feelthebern in our asshole like them"
>>
>>67999063
Most Muslim's are peaceful
>>
File: 1428490166346.jpg (128 KB, 466x700) Image search: [Google]
1428490166346.jpg
128 KB, 466x700
If George Washington had placed a permanent ban on all Jews entering the Untied States when it was founded, Whites would still own the country.
>>
>>67999156
Because the truth is a liberals worse nightmare
>>
File: NBC CBS.png (207 KB, 1746x1364) Image search: [Google]
NBC CBS.png
207 KB, 1746x1364
>>67999180
You just need to take out the Media towers that are brainwashing your people and get to know your neighbors like good old days
>>
>>67998549
Or find the origimal study
>>
>>67999187
so why they say islam is a religion of peace?
i don't get it
>>
You cannot enter Mecca unless you are a Muslim. Turnabout is fair play...
>>
File: 1452034147393.jpg (147 KB, 1584x1584) Image search: [Google]
1452034147393.jpg
147 KB, 1584x1584
>>67997860
5min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE
30min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilFbbk9jw4
>>
>>67999242
KEK GO BACK TO leREDDIT
>>
>>67998823
How can Frenchie be so against restricting muslim immigration? Calais is right in your backyard and so was Paris
>>
>>67997860
Good.
>>
>>67999332
Because he is either 1)a cuck or 2) a muzzie himself. There aren't very many true Frank's anymore
>>
>>67999242
No Most Buddhists are peaceful

if it's the case of only a small amount of 1.5 Billion Muslims are Violent Terrorist that is still 250-500 Million that are in support of terrorism
we have NO reason why any of these fuckers need to be here
>>
>>67999302
because it fits their agenda, and they (the left) think that if they say it enough times, it makes it true
See:
>Xe is a woman you shitlord!
>Islam is peaceful you shitlord!
>>
Its both funny and disgusting watching how Trump supporters try to justify his racism
>>
>>67999302
I don't know, but it doesn't really matter imo. What matter are the facts, and it's a fact that sharia law would make our lives much worse (take a look at iran for a good example)

Just keep those primitive savages away from where I live
>>
>>67999253

Almost all of our Founding Fathers were either Freemasons or heavily associated with the Rosicrucian ideology, their personal belief systems would've never allowed them to ban Jews from American because they were also heavily embedded in these "social groups"
>>
>>67999302
Evil lies about being peaceful. Also, water is wet.
>>
>>67997860
can you really not figure this out for yourself? lurk moar
>>
>>67999557
same so with black people hiding theirs with jobless white teens
>>
>>67999557
I wasn't aware that Muslim was a race
>>
I had to defend Donald Trump against my leftist mother and brother yesterday.

My brother claimed that Donald Trump had said this, I told him that he was wrong and dared him to find proof that he had said such things. Needless to say, he couldn't find anything.

They tried to call him a racist, because he wants to deport illegal Mexican immigrants. I corrected their assumptions that this makes him a racist, by reminding them that Mexican is a nationality.

When I brought up the fact that Bernie Sanders claimed that white people don't know what it's like to be poor, they the two of them didn't bat a fucking eyelid. I asked them, do you not consider this incredibly racist?

Apparently they don't. It's different they said, because Bernie Sanders is white. I confronted them further about this and it didn't take long for my degenerate mother to start shouting and screaming at me to stop talking, she has done this for as long as I can remember when she is proved wrong about something.

I asked my brother if he believes in white privilege. He said yes, which doesn't surprise me really. He's a tattoo covered, apple loving, weed smoking, beard toting degenerate nu-male. After confronting him further about this, he retracted from his original belief and now claimed that: White privilege exists for certain people in certain parts of America. Obviously he couldn't comprehend the fact that he had just disproved his own belief that white people are universally inherently privilege.

I literally felt like I was there arguing with Carl Cuck and AIDS Skrillex. ALWAYS defend Donald Trump brothers, NEVER back down, do not let the leftist degenerate scum win.
>>
>>67999557
Explain to me how Islam is a race, Carl.
>>
File: 1441304135803.jpg (36 KB, 480x480) Image search: [Google]
1441304135803.jpg
36 KB, 480x480
>>67999302
They got confused between Buddhist and Muslim after destroying so many statues & artifacts
>>
Muslim here.

Carter did it during the Iran hostage crisis. Just tell them he's Hitler, and that they support Hitler because they're liberals. I know there's no logic to what I just said, but I doubt they care either way.
>>
>>67999567
Yeah i know...

Sometimes it is fun to pretend though. This country was founded by fucking jewlovers.
>>
File: m.png (333 KB, 729x1416) Image search: [Google]
m.png
333 KB, 729x1416
>>67997860
Its actually easy to defend... you just have to look at facts or the real life examples in Éurope.
Actually thinking about how much violence, anti antisemitism, hate for non Muslims, hate for lgbt, misogyny and sexual abuse gets imported it its ALL the other candidates that have to reason and argue why the western world should still take Muslims.
No really try to defend this!
Explain to me the reason for letting future utterly predicable social changes and utterly predictable and preventable radical Islamic attacks happen. No really ..try
>>
>>67998411
No, it wasn't. Educate yourself.
>>
If you don't let your enemies into the country...


they

can't

attack

you.
>>
isn't it convenient the same people who are tying to harm the Constitution and ban guns are the same one's pushing for Muslims to come kill American in the name of freedom of religion
>>
>>67997860
>Most terrorist attacks in the west have been caused by muslims (9/11, 7/7, Paris, etc)
>Muslims who travel to the west could have been radicalised
>It's in the best interests of the country to institute a travel ban on muslims, at least until they have been vetted
>A nation without borders is just a piece of land
>Muslims proportionally commit more crime than white people do
>In Islam rape of non-believing women is acceptable
Need any more?
>>
When you have witnesses of a bank robbery tell you that the suspects were black, the police aren't gonna go and suspect white people, are they? Is it racist to not suspect white people when all evidence supports that the perpetrators were black? That's just like the situation right now. We all know for a fact that ISIS are Muslims. There have been news of people from different countries joining them and for that reason, we can't narrow down the suspects with race or nationality. The easiest way to narrow it down would be religion, since that's what ISIS believes in. Banning all Muslims from entering is the best way to keep ISIS out without keeping other people out.

_/|
>>
File: 1452080549655.jpg (54 KB, 373x527) Image search: [Google]
1452080549655.jpg
54 KB, 373x527
>>67999567
Freemason's were never Jews they just infiltrated and used there symbols i grew up around some of these guy's
>>
File: 1441756433774.jpg (32 KB, 408x632) Image search: [Google]
1441756433774.jpg
32 KB, 408x632
>>67999676
>that pic
>>
>>67999748
help me out then...i dont care much about trump because I dont live in the US and since I think hes a good guy. I hope he gets into the white house.

So for the record: He never said to ban all muslims from entering america?

What did he say then, everything I find is "Trump bans muslims"
>>
>>67999819
No one wants to ban all guns comprehensive gun control is needed there are way too many deaths by guns in the US and it wouldn't be against the constitution to make some reforms

Meanwhile Trump wants to ban ALL Muslims which is not only against the constitution but is also racist
>>
>>67999960
Obongo controlls Merkel, if Trump becomes president he could change everything within the blink of an eye.
>>
>>67999960
It was at some rally or some shit he said to TEMPORARILY ban muslims until we can vet immigrants better or find some other solution.
Keep in mind this was after the paris attacks, and an attack on our own soil from a mussy.

Trump was just looking at the numbers and saw a direct correlation between muslim immigrants and terrorism, why is this so wrong to point out?
Its not like he wants to ban them forever.
>>
>>67997860
Temporarily idiot.
>>
>>67998194
This

Islam is political.

Now if he barred Arabs from entering, then they can riot.
>>
>>68000108
This has to be bait no one can be this stupid
>>
File: 1457815621540 - Copy.png (225 KB, 633x516) Image search: [Google]
1457815621540 - Copy.png
225 KB, 633x516
>>68000108
another twisted lie (see pic ) the only problem we have is Blacks & Muslims

Non citizen foreigners are not bound by our Constitution so therefore your argument is invalid we can ban everything we want from entering our country, you never even had a vote by the people to bring them here and force them into our neighborhoods you have no right, and the people are voting for Trump to keep them out that is our Vote you never gave us
>>
>>68000108
>banning muslims
>racist

Muslim is not a race. Are you saying that brown people are the only muslim? There's lots of blacks who are muslim too!! YOU SIR ARE A RACIST!!!!
>>
>>68000108

You are either trolling, or really, really, ignorant as fuck.
>>
File: 1458312951320.jpg (276 KB, 800x659) Image search: [Google]
1458312951320.jpg
276 KB, 800x659
>>67997860
>How to defend this statement with good examples and facts?

>German flag
>>
File: trump.jpg (460 KB, 734x760) Image search: [Google]
trump.jpg
460 KB, 734x760
im just going to take this thread to remind liberal faggots that Muslim is NOT a race its a religion before they cry DAS RACIST if he said ban all Iranians,Arabs etc that would be racism. you sjw liberal anti racist faggots assuming all muslim must be middle eastern looking is racist considering there are asian,black,middle eastern,white muslims.
>>
File: every fucking time.gif (960 KB, 245x180) Image search: [Google]
every fucking time.gif
960 KB, 245x180
>>68000108
>wants to ban ALL Muslims
>ALL
Only the irretrievably stupid would persist in this obvious lie. Hopefully your family won't be too broken up when you drown taking a shower you fucking windowlicker.
>>
File: 1454626445707.jpg (20 KB, 600x385) Image search: [Google]
1454626445707.jpg
20 KB, 600x385
Fuck Muslims

Number one on the kill list when it kicks off.
>>
How the fuck do you ban something intangible like faith? How would the Vatican ban atheists?
>>
>>67998041
He will bar Muslims from entering the country?

Cool, Obama did the exact same thing with the Iraqi refugee program. As did President Carter, and FDR.

Trump is no more racist than any Democrat darling.
>>
>>67998335
"I'm a gay faggot and a nigger and no one can stop me from proudly destroying this country because I hate America."
-Bernie Sanders aka Hillary Clinton
>>
>>68000558
Are niggers or jews second?
>>
Islam is a criminal organization, like the mafia. Muhammad was a very successful Gang leader who committed every evil act imaginable. It makes perfect sense to ban them.

Muslims can only attack us if we let them in. Japan has NO Islamic terrorist attacks, because Japan does not let Muslims in their country.
>>
>>67997860
My take on his statement was that he said he wanted to halt Muslim immigration. The media's take was "ban all Muslims".

I haven't heard him clarify either way, but I don't really follow him.
>>
>>68000634
Upon entering the United States you have to eat a Bacon Cheeseburger while drawing a picture of the prophet Mohamed
>>
>>68000678
Jew's should be #1 since they are the one's pushing for them to come here and destroy us if they were gone we could clean everything up easily with everyone's support in the USA besides these Communist Shillary Bernie fagg0ts
>>
If a Muslim family can not enter the US just because they are Muslim that is racist why even, try to deny it?
>>
>>68000276
Thats good, thanks! I can use this too!
>>
>>67998823
>banning the immigration of Muslims refugees until they are able to be Vetted properly so there's no danger to the population is wrong, look at me paris has only been attacked 2 times in the last year by Muslims. My vetting system works.
>Yuropoor; 1
>xenophobe; 0
>>
>>68000827
Yet they are Denying Arab Christians from Entering. Bigoted fagg0t
>>
>>68000827

are you just going to keep spouting out retarded shit?
>>
File: image.jpg (591 KB, 1500x1125) Image search: [Google]
image.jpg
591 KB, 1500x1125
Show them this.
>>
>>68000940
That would also be racist just because other countries are racist doesn't mean the US should be too, look at Canada for example they have been helping thousands of Muslim refuges and they are just fine
>>
>>67998663
Hillary Clinton said, "We don't need to make America Great again, it's already great. We need to make America whole again."
Which implies that the country when divided racially, sexually and religiously is great and therefore not in need of any barriers to be broken in order for us to be unified. Real unity will come from Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton is a walking mouthpiece for the elites, if you actually listen to her speeches you hear her leak information subconsciously.
>>
>>67999242
In that case they won't be upset from being banned from America
>>
File: Hillary.jpg (567 KB, 943x579) Image search: [Google]
Hillary.jpg
567 KB, 943x579
>>68000827
Durrr cant even speak English or pass the Citizenship test like any white person from Europe

yea let's give them a free pass because they are Muslims and that way they can vote legally and corrupt the voting system to elect Muslims into office so we have Sharia law's passed fuck off ok thanx
>>
>>68001061
If terrorists wasted an atom bomb on Canada I'm not even sure if the rest of the world notice.

Someone check if Canada is still there.
>>
File: 1451857956178.jpg (690 KB, 897x1850) Image search: [Google]
1451857956178.jpg
690 KB, 897x1850
>>68001061
lets ship them all to your neighborhood and get them out of ours and it will be just fine we dont even have 1 city to ourselves
>>
>>68000983
ok, the first one is based on evidence and facts. the second one is calling for a complete stop until trump pulls his head out his ass.
>>
There is NO logical reason to ban all Muslim's

guns kill way more people then Muslims each year but we dont ban all guns because its against the constitution

its also against the constitution to ban all Muslims but i guess you Trump supporters dont really care about the constitution
>>
>>68000983

People what is true now?

Did Trump call for a complete ban for muslims entering the country or was he saying a temporary ban???????
>>
File: 1457783075582.png (386 KB, 432x586) Image search: [Google]
1457783075582.png
386 KB, 432x586
>>68001349
Oh I'm sure the Paris massacre and Cologne were pure coincidences.
>>
>>68001511
>its also against the constitution to ban all Muslims
Where does it say in the constitution that those rights apply to non US citizens?
>>
Can anyone tell me what trump means with this "until we figure out what's going on"?
I mean he always say this phrase, but I never heard what EXACTLY he is going to do to "Figure it out". Why can't he "figure it out" without closing borders for muslims? Is "figuring out" envolving a check of muslims who already live in the US?
This sound a bit shady to me.
>>
>>68001537
Temporary
>>
>>68001644
It means making a system for checking mudslimes that doesn't fucking suck.
>>
>>68001511
it's not against the constitution
it say's you have the freedom of religion
not to forcefully import Religions to destroy yours

Importing Muslims is an Attack on White people and Christianity so it hurts the freedom of religion & is truly racist

Guns dont kill people, people do the more savage imports you have the more violence you will have regardless of owning a gun
>>
>>67998576
>Banning a group of people based on their religion is against the very founding principles of our Republic.
Banning a group of people who's religion is against the very founding principles of your Republic.
>>
>>67997860
We have to figure out what's going on.
>>
>>68000108
>Times have changed, we don't need the 2nd Amendment anymore!
>You know, we don't need the 1st Amendment either!
>>
Trump doesn't want to ban ALL Muslims from entering the US. Even if he wanted, it wouldn't be possible.
What he wants is bar entry to the people (muslims) that come from war torn countries like Syria until the US finds a way to correctly screen them and perform valid background checks because there is a rational worry that you might be letting terrorists in your country.
So instead of saying "Let's block entry to Syrians, Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, whatever other refugees" he just classified them all as "muslim", which is alright since he wants to fight islamism with this.
He's not banning a fucking religion, he's just refering to the people that come from areas known for radical islamism.
>>
>>67998823
Whether or not it can be considered xenophobic, leftists seem to treat it like it's the worst thing in the world.

Trump is an isolationist/nationalist. He puts the interests of his own country first. People currently living in the United States are dying on the streets of poverty. Once that problem is solved, maybe there's time to look into the issues that outsiders face. The people who are taking advantage of, and abusing this weak system. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and they like to blow people up.

That said, I don't think he's actually going to ban Muslims or deport illegal immigrants. What he usually does is take a tough stance and start from that to make a deal.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-business-philosophy-from-the-art-of-the-deal-2015-6

Trump is just getting all the heat because he conveys his positions in a more interesting way than the other candidates, which gives him a media advantage. The paradox here is that he's actually one of the most moderate candidates. You should look into Cruz's positions. Compare them with Trump and tell me who's the dangerous guy here.
>>
Come on, guys. Is the flow of muslim immigrants to the US THAT HIGH, that you have to close the borders? From my perspective this kind of argument could work in Europe, but US? Not many immigrants and refugees choose america as a destination point. For purily geografical reasons - the fucking wast ocean is on their way.
>>
>>68002041
Trump wants to ban ALL Muslims from every country including fellow allied countries like Germany or the UK he has made that clear
>>
File: [000013].jpg (29 KB, 426x600) Image search: [Google]
[000013].jpg
29 KB, 426x600
>>68002009
> #1 We dont need freedom of press ban Mainstream media and there Anti Gun, Anti Free speech, Anti-Christian Agendas Now

#2 We need Freedom of Religion except for the Religions who want to destroy ours like Muslims & Jews
>>
ficki ficki
>>
>>68002458
wakka wakka
>>
>>67997860
Page act of 1875

Vote Trump!
>>
>>67997860
>Trump wants to ban all muslims from entering to the US.

T-E-M-P-O-R-A-R-I-L-Y


Only until we have a more sophisticated screening policy than "Me sad and frum scary place gib gib :((((( me promise no ISIS"
>>
Remember that one time President Jimmy Carter actually did impose almost a similar ban? Why doesn't anyone ever talk about that! http://www.dailywire.com/news/1727/heres-what-jimmy-carter-did-about-muslim-michael-qazvini
>>
Chinese Exclusion act of 1882

TRUMP 2016!!!
>>
Prime Directive Act
Applies to refugees arriving after 1991 a country that reaches stabilization, Citizenship for Refugees shall be remitted / revoked Special permission may be applied.


1. there shall be no Immigration of forced UN-natural mean's no programs, no Authority, no Organizational Charity, no Transportation of refugee Assistance giving Any persons of a less then civilization not Equal to the Country, Territories , the ability's Technology, Economical, Cultural Advantages it must be a similar culture To prevent the Interference of a Cultures Natural Development they must travel on there own to find there way to a more Advanced migrated Land without any Government funded programs and no transfer of moneys person to person or any Entity from a Greater then Prime Directive Country and pass a Citizen naturalization test within 3 years
>>
>>68003191
2. removal Location of persons by force if nessary of Non true Citizenship meaning Nobody of refugee status and born children that has not taken a Citizen Naturalization test & is not of a prime directive stated country be Immeadly ressettled back into home country after stabalization. Citizenship Expires After stabalization of Refugee country ( Go back Law ) All funds from Tax payers or any programs that persons have recieved Via Social Security, Welfare any Charitbal Funded program shall be Immeadity Frozen & Redirected to a state or federal Operational Fund also restoration of places in the Community & Citizenship Revoked
>>
>>68003224
3.Temporary holding relocation ( See Fusion Center Protocol of Emergency ) with Addition for ressettlement in Home Country of Origin or Termination of Confirmed threats.

(immediate Action)
4. in the Event of Extreme Agenda Social interference of Un-Naturalized Citzens Manipulation of Society & Law known infaltration in places of power by Church, Government, Lobby group or Busininess attempting to destroy a way of life or pass an Agenda against the people and replacing it with another trying to Emergency protocols shall take place to remove the threat. and government to withdraw all programs and technology for spying on Natural born Citizens / General population monitoring caused by the entity's
>>
>>67999316
Vienna isn't marked on that map. I bet you he missed tons more battles too that he was too lazy to research.
>>
>>68003281
5. Mass wave force removal Ratio All funds from Tax payers or any programs that persons have recieved Via Social Security, Welfare any Charitbal Funded program shall be Immeadity Frozen & Redirected to the state Fund also restoration of places in the Community & Citizenship Removed
>>
Its not an unprecedented move really.
We technically already ban shi'i muslims from entering the us because we dont allow iranians in.
Its not that much a stretch to ban sunni muslims as well by banning incoming people from muslim dominated countries. We still ban cubans after all. Just ban people from countries we dont have good relations with, dont make it a religion issue.
>>
File: moderateislam.jpg (52 KB, 500x529) Image search: [Google]
moderateislam.jpg
52 KB, 500x529
>>
>>67999680
Pretty much this.

There's nothing wrong with temporarily blocking people from entering your country for security measures.
>>
>>68000789

In all seriousness.
>>
What are the pros of accepting Muslims into our country? As far as I can tell, there are none. Yet there are plenty of cons.

Immigration is not supposed to be a "value". It's a calculus that is supposed to be designed around benefiting the country, and Muslims provide no benefit to America that we can't get from elsewhere in the world, or right here at home even. The onus shouldn't be on us, the onus should be on Muslims.

What do they propose to add to our country? Why should we let them in? What's in it for us?
>>
>>67998395
We are at war with Islam.
>>
>>68003413
>What are the pros of accepting Muslims into our country? As far as I can tell, there are none. Yet there are plenty of cons.

Well supposedly they should be accepted on merits, I.E doctors and scientists and shit, in which case barring them entry because of their religion is counterproductive.

Also "multicultural variety" if that counts.
>>
>>67997860
Muslims are terrible people.
>>
>>68000666
Double trips of truth, fampai.
>>
>>67997860
He could, but he would have to ban the practice of all religions, which I think wouldn't be a bad idea considering all bloodshed in history has been due to religion.
>>
>>68003570
We can get doctors and other professionals from elsewhere in the world. We have long waiting lists in our visa program.

And multiculturalism is a detriment, not a bonus.
>>
>>67997860
You obviously cannot ban all muslims from entering the US.
>>
File: image.png (1 MB, 750x1334) Image search: [Google]
image.png
1 MB, 750x1334
>>67997860
It is temporary is the best answer. And proceed to point at the EU-Turkey deal. Get into individual state economic issues it will create etc. If you bring your spazoid side and say "Muhammad is a pedo" etc, you'll lose the argument instantly and it won't help your argument.
>>
>>67997860
Our elected leaders would t even say Islamic extremism any more. We obviously are not equipped at the moment to handle them good or bad. We need some time to fix ourselves.
>>
8 U.S. Code, section 1182

>(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

>Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
>>
>>68003789
dude we need our own white doctors
not Mongolians
>>
>>67998041
I wish that picture was true.
Why can't we get along?
t. pole.
>>
>>67997860
Muslim immigrants have nothing special to offer us over other immigrants and are like 1,000 times more likely to murder us in the name of their god. There's no reason to let them in.
>>
>>67997860
Poisoned m&m dilemma
>>
>>67997860

He doesn't want to ban all Muslims, though. Not every Muslim in the middle east is Muslim, for one, and he wants to ~temporarily~ put a ban on the otherwise would-be refugee crisis due to the high level threat of ISIS. This of course is nothing new considering it has been done before, it's simply gained traction because so many hate trump. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
>>
>>68006017

Not everyone in the middle east is Muslim*
>>
I don't get how /pol/'s mindset is "all muslims are terrorists" when most victims of radical islam are muslim
>>
>>68006065
Yes, not everyone is a subhuman goat/child fucker, we get it.
>>
>>68003409
Sounds good to me.
>>
>>68003327
>Death of Mohammed
>632 AD
>>
>>68002199
In terms of a Muslim ban, he's going to at least get a 6-12 month immigration freeze(all immigration so it's fair) and a Syrian safe zone.
>>
>>67997860
>How to defend this statement with good examples and facts?
America is currently at war with several groups in the middle east, which is where the majority of Muslim immigrants come from. Speaking purely pragmatically it is a bad idea to allow people from a region you are at war with into your country.
>>
>>68006146
No, no. It's "all muslims are subhuman". That's why /pol/ doesn't care about terrorist acts between them.
>>
>>67998041
Show them this
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
>>
>>67997860
The only people in danger of getting genocided are the Jews at the hands of Muslims in the Middle East.

Retaliating to the poisonous ideology of Islam should be our responsibility. Not pretending Trump is a racist for trying to defend us from Islam.

Trump can't be a despot as long as we have a system of checks and balances anyways. (Unless you think he can just ignore congress and the supreme court and the American people won't revolt)
>>
>All white men are rapists. Ban all white men from USA.

Trump is just dumb.
>>
>>68006146
>most victims of radical islam are muslim

Yeah, in Muslim countries. No shit. And then when they come to the West, they kill us.
>>
>>68006774
watched the video, picture was deceptive listing 632 on it, Vienna wasn't listed.
Thread replies: 186
Thread images: 35

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.