People say dinosaurs cannot be cloned, because their DNA isn't intact, and finding a 65 million year old peice of intact DNA? Yep, that's almost impossible.
Not to say that is is COMPLETELY impossible, we have found intact DNA of Woolly Mammoths, and recently, intact DNA from a pregnant T-Rex, that's right, a T-Rex, it's been a childhood dream to live amongst dinosaurs, and who knows? Maybe that day will come, soon.
Third dinosaur thread I see here today
/pol/ is becoming /dinosaur/
>we have found intact DNA of Woolly Mammoths
They only went extinct 10000 years ago though
Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago
>>67991237
They're still prehistoric animals.
So it counts, in a way.
Imagine the beefs you could make out of a dinosaur. That sure would solve a lot of the world's hunger problems.
>>67991285
We wouldn't use T-Rex for food.
We would use them for military and working purposes, and for zoos, possibly even turning them into pets.
The strength of these things can help us in many places.
so why havent they cloned mammoths yet?
>>67991383
>military
you watch to many movies.
a slow giant animal isnt exactly a match to a guy with a grenade.
>>67991275
No it really doesn't.
>>67991577
> slow
And you don't read many books (not surprising, since your only allowed the Koran over there) but T.Rex's could run at 65mph.
>>67991510
They're trying, science takes time, and funding.
>>67991383
Two problems
1. the dinosaur in question has a pea sized brain and is a predator. Try to mount it and he'll probable reach and chomp half of your body off
2. Already addressed by the other anon. No giant sized animal is a match for modern weapons. You would be sacrificing the poor thing and ending up wasting its meat.
>>67991510
They've no doubt attempted it, I doubt it's a very easy thing to do though.
>>67991698
which isnt all that fast compared to the size
anyways you are a moron. Its just a big lump of flesh, its easy to spot and anything could kill it.
>>67991980
> 65mph isn't fast
I suppose your "aryan" genes would enable you to outrun it yeah?
>>67991890
All animals can be domesticated, Anon.
It may take a few generations, but it will happen.
Wild Dogs where domesticated by cave men.
No matter how small the brain is, a animal can learn.
>>67992031
i wouldnt need to because i would have a car.
and a rifle
>>67991237
>>67991275
See how a average human mind comprehends the difference between the numbers 10000 and 65 million? It doesn't.
>>67991980
>Anything could kill it.
The T-Rex is fast, agile, and smart for its brain size.
This creature is excellent.
>>67991285
The reason we don't farm predatory animals for food is that THEY NEED OTHER ANIMALS FOR FOOD.
you're literally wasting meat you could have eaten
>>67992115
I hope you have a big rifle.
>>67992115
> i have a car
Canned meat. The T.Rex has built in can openers. It's teeth.
>>67991105
terrible idea, there are plenty of animals that humanity has just recently pushed into extinction that we should talk about reviving before entertaining the wishes of madmen.
>>67991105
It's difficult to clone animals that have been dead for a year. I highly doubt dinosaurs will ever be cloned.
>>67992189
13 inches of serrated teeth, mind you.
It can rip flesh, bond and steel.
I wouldn't be surprised if this thing could destroy battle tanks.
>>67991105
Dinosaurs can't live in a modern environment because oxygen levels are too low. They adapted too a wholly different atmosphere, and that is also why dinosaurs grew so big.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
>>67992238
It may take decades to make 1 dinosaur.
But once we make one.
We can make the second one easy.
And another one.
And another one.
>>67991105
link to the article where they claim to have found intact DNA please
>>67991105
>Not to say that is is COMPLETELY impossible, we have found intact DNA of Woolly Mammoths, and recently, intact DNA from a pregnant T-Rex
I read that article, but my understanding is that it is in fact impossible. DNA breaks down over a predictable length of time and under ideal (very cold, very dry) conditions it won't last longer than about 1 million years. The claim about the T-Rex was likely an overoptimistic guess - they didn't say they found DNA, only that they believed they would.
>>67992242
Meanwhile Mr.Kraut will attempt to outrun it in his old banger whilst trying to fire from a rifle that's been deactivated.
>>67992124
>agile
it weighed over 5 tons. i doubt it was great at changing directions.
anyways that talk is ridiculous, we have left the middle ages, war doesnt happen like in call of duty, we shoot shit from miles away and we got constant surveillance. if you would try and use some giant reptile in a war zone it would kill exactly 0 people.
Dinosaurs wouldn't be able to grow so large in our current relatively low-oxygen environment.
>>67992288
If that where true, we'd be dead too.
>>67992074
lol no. try domesticating a crocodile. it wont work. they are too stupid.
This is some grade AAA shitposting and this thread should be culled for not having anything to do with politics.
>>67992360
Unless it's been airlocked through time with the power of ash and mud.
>>67992392
We have very complex lungs and we are "small". low=/=0
>>67991285
>future
>its the holiday season
>family comes together to share some bronto ribs
Would be better than the current future tis dimension has.
>>67992398
People keep crocodiles as pets.
Good training and a huge amount of things to keep it happy, aswell as tricking the animal that your the "leader of the pack" will cause any animal to help you, even if it's as aggressive as a T-Rex
They can make dinosaurs from chickens. I bet they already have long time ago.
>>67992550
>We can make dinosaurs from actual birds
A chicken with teeth -> dinosaurs.
WE WUZ DINOS AND SHEEIT
>>67991105
Fuck off, this isn't politics. Go to >>>/x/
>>67992392
The present atmosphere pressure is 14.7psi compared to 28psi in the Jurassic. Any dinosaurs whom evolved for those conditions would become severely ill if placed in our atmosphere. Another reason is that oxygen levels were about 30 % in the Jurassic age compared to the 20% of today.
>>67993056
Dinosaurs would survive, sure, possibly the big ones would suffer from a few breathing difficultys, but they would survive, perhaps even adapt to it.
>>67991105
>Cloning dinosaurs
Go watch Jurassic Park.
>>67991105
I heard once that dinosaurs couldn't survive today because the earth had more oxygen back in their time.
>>67993284
They would survive, but they would certainly have breathing difficultys, such as asthma.
But, they would adapt.
>>67991105
>Mammoths
>Dinosaurs
big difference
Turtle or alligator is more ancient than mammoths.
>>67993284
Places like Texas and the Middle East used to be jungle, given how oil-rich they are.
>>67992074
Try to domesticate a zebra
>>67991105
1) You can't clone an animal just because you have its DNA
2) Even if you could, dinosaurs have been dead for so long that getting fully intact DNA is next to impossible - just because they found Mammoth DNA doesn't mean they can clone it, it's likely degraded
3) Seriously dude, that's not how cloning works
>>67991698
sure dude a big animal with huge 2 legs runs at 65 mph
>>67993056
Source on the pressure thing? I don't see how that could be possible.
>>67993616
just because it's not how cloning works now doesn't mean we can't figure out a way you fucking retarded cunt that can't learn anything new and can only learn things from a fucking book. Fuck you australian shitposters.
>>67993171
>they would survive, perhaps even adapt to it.
They did, but not in the way you think.
>>67993616
I know how cloneing works, DNA is just one part of the building blocks of life, we've clone mice, we can clone bigger.
The DNA that was found in the pregnant T-Rex was intact, the T-Rex clone may be a bit fucked up, but the generations of clone T-Rex will turn it into the magnificent creature the world has ever seen.
>>67991105
I'm shocked no one in this thread is discussing the massive BLOWOUT that is soft tissues.
We've now learned loads of fossils we considered fruitless now hold a delicious core of soft tissues.
It was supposed to be completely impossible, and by the rules we used: it was.
What ended up happening was we didn't check that the iron previously in the body would make deposits that could contain soft cells within, and that they wouldn't degrade in that manner. As we type here people are going completely apeshit and cutting dino bones in half and searching for more.
Could we clone from it? No clue. But it was supposed to be "impossible" to find this DNA but now we are.
>>67993171
Let me put it this way. The atmospheric pressure and composition of the Jurassic period compared to our atmosphere. Is like comparing our atmosphere to the atmosphere at Mount Everest.
If you think that dinosaurs would survive for extended periods in our atmosphere, you also think that humans can survive at Mount Everest for extended periods.
>>67991152
/pol/ is becoming slid by left tards to bury the trump and soros threads
>>67992242
How would that work when steel is harder then a t rex teeth
>>67993828
Little detail: we have no DNA from "pregnant T-rex". It's bullshit
>>67993962
I'm more excited about what we may be able to identify in what we find that is intact.
We still aren't sure of how dinosaur blood and metabolism worked, this is something we could eventually gain some idea of by finding certain genes present.
>>67994029
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/653117/Scientists-closer-to-CLONING-T-Rex-after-discovering-remains-of-pregnant-dinosaur
>>67991275
Wooly DNA was preserved (to a degree) in frozen specimens and missing genes are taken from living relatives - that haven't evolved 65 million years past the wooly as with Dinos and aves (birds).
>>67992398
What about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n56EHkM7tKs
>>67994119
Wait, have you read the article? I thought you was only ignorant, it seems you are a functional illiterate
>>67993718
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_pressure
>>67994307
Of course I have.
>>67994351
>read article claiming that we can find traces of DNA in a particular tissue
>claim we have the entire T-rex genome
> "Of course I have"
How old are you? 12? You are literally random shitposting.
>>67991510
Clones die fairly quickly. The first cloned Sheep lived a while though.
>>67991510
Also, where the fuck would they go? They can't stay in the US. I guess you could put them in Northern Canada where no one goes.
>>67994577
Now we have better understanding of telomeres and genetic expression, we only need funds
>>67994577
We're looking for a clone hat can live to about its breeding age, so then the mating can begin before they die, creating the first true T-Rex's
>>67994755
I don't think you're shitposting, I believe you're a 100% retarded/autistic.
>>67991698
It has a high top speed but it would appear extremly sluggish to us. It's reaction time would be several times slower than ours since it's nerves are several times longer. Movements like turning it's head would take several times longer time because it's head has to travel several times longer distance compared to us, and it already takes several times higher force to accelerate it due to the weight.
Think of how hard it can be to swat a fly. The fly is stupid, it doesn't sense the danger until your hand is in mid air and the fly starts to think it's getting a bit to close. We'd start to move the second we saw a t-rex.
>>67991105
This is your 3rd thread faggot
>>67991275
Dinosaurs have been dead for so long they have literally turned into rocks. I don't think we'll be seeing any clones any time soon.
What would be the advantages of using a living T-rex instead of a mecha T-rex for military use? A robot doesn't need to be trained and fed, can be repaired if it gets hurt in battle and can be equipped with artillery. We would also probably have the tech to build a mecha dinosaur much sooner than that needed to clone a living dinosaur.
The only thing a living dinosaur would be good for is being an amazing source of shekels for freak shows.
Anyone else find it just a little saddening that a creature of such power has no use on a battlefield these days? Also, mandatory to post this pic.
>>67991105
>western scientiss are bringing extinct animals back to life
>niggers still living in mud huts in Africa
What a time to be alive
>>67992339
How much food they will need just in order to survive?
I think that smaller dinosaurs are a much safer wager
>>67995918
>>67991510
I believe it's been attempted using elephants as surrogate mothers but they couldn't support the pregnancy. I could be wrong but I'msure that the idea of elephants as surrogates as at least been floated.
/pol/ what is the jew of the dinosaur world?
they are already creating dinosaur hybrids by modifying chicken DNA, their closest surviving relatives
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20150512-bird-grows-face-of-dinosaur
jurassic park soon lads
>>67991105
why clone wan when we can make chickens look like them/?
