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How come Poland has such a low birth rate despite banning abortion?
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How come Poland has such a low birth rate despite banning abortion?
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Large amounts of young that leave the country.
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>>67985891
/thread
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>>67985823
They have contraception.
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Around Polax never relax
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>>67986018

Look at the bright side you at least banned abortion. We didn't and it's like 50 percent abortion rate and people are also leaving the country.
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>>67985823
It's probably still easy to get, just like it was in the US before Roe v Wade
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>>67985823
>Large amounts of young that leave the country.
This. Polish fertility rates in the UK are a lot higher.
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>>67985823
Banning abortion has no effects on birth rate among any people smart enough to use condoms. With effective measures of contraception available, people will generally have kids when they want them, which for most developed countries is never or once in a lifetime.
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Why don't the young come back to the motherland now that it is one of the few white spots in europe left, and make it great again (not again, but you know what I mean)?
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>>67986095
>50 percent abortion rate

wew Vlad
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>>67986080
Around the kraut, watch out!
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>>67986234
Polan was great once you know
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>>67986288

I am not proud of the stupidity of my co-nationals. But it's not like we can do much to stop it. Every time the church tries to do anything the foreign media and their puppets here pile up on them.
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>>67986234
Because most people care about money and comfortable life more than anything.
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>>67986374
you mean when Hitler owned it?
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>>67986374
Only when you were together with Lithuania.
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>>67986388
that's the price nowadays. Lord have mercy.
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>>67985823
the women don't want to have sex with the betas and they dont have a substantial muslim immigration
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>>67986234
Cause the UK still pays better.

Zloty are still Zloty.
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>>67985823
Government doesn't give a fuck about young people. Nearly zero support for young mothers and fathers. It's beyond me how they manage to breed in this country. Meanwhile polish whores in Germany, Sweden, and the UK are pushing baby carts by the thousands because of welfare.

Additionally babies are expensive as fuck now. They need iphones and nike shoes at the age of six, while my generation played in the sandbox or by the river all wearing 5$ tennis shoes.

Average Polish people are so poor they can't afford to properly raise more then 1 kid. While Germans have no excuse, buying new car every 2 years and letting muslims breed for them.

Well done Krauts, well done.
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Is abortion ban include rape babies?
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>>67986234
Poland is utterly divided internally and full of different groups of interest and corruption. Legacy of not cleansing commies after system change. This results in very bad environment for anything, especially making country great again. Young people here usually hit a wall of some kind trying to do something with their lives and give up. Poor people leave because they have no future here, talented leave because then can make much more elsewhere. Polish people are very good at fighting any external problems but the issue now is that you would have to fight against your own nation to change something. Similar to situation in countries like US for example (liberals vs. trump). People who just want to "live a normal life" are not interested in this infighting and leave the country.
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i would gladly trade being homogenous nation for wealth. look at sweden, uk, france or germany. yes they have no go zones, yes they have attacks rapes etc but i would not care. just dont go out and be ok. would be cool have such comfy life.
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>>67986434
Everyone whos been to poland knows how shitty the infrastructure are, and how low the average income is, and basicly have no welfare, people run from poland to come to more advanced places like here france uk and even fucking spain,you understand your people is runni g from your country to go to fucking spain, realie this and kill self
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>>67986722

>Czech being an asshole and attempting to go full jew

This does not surprise me.
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>>67986606
Come to France, I will introduce your girls to white french catholics, plenty of welfare here. I count on it to raise my 5 (or 6) children
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>>67986769
Suck my dick shitaliano vero :D
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>>67986643
Well ok, that sounds similar to Germany, where the soviet part has taken over the west. Now you have numale beta faggots with their cultural marxism, a stalinistic government (one party system, state controlled media, thought crimes), antifas sponsored by the government to violently oppress any upcoming party that might threaten their absolute power... it's the perfect storm plus opportunistic muslim infection on top of that.
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>>67986458
No, when we owned Moscow
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>>67986852
Take as much whores as you want for your sultan mate, i give them to you for free.
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>>67986925
haha wow. and boy did they turn THAT around on you
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>>67986722
Jeez i wonder who could be behind this post...
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>>67986606
>They need iphones and nike shoes at the age of six

Not in Norway, I am rich enough to afford that to the children, but they are not getting no iphones unless they work for it. And children need new shoes all the time, they can wait until they are older to get expensive shoes.

Are your children your masters, Poland?
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>>67986976
Times change. You will see that when you will be older country Murica.
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>>67986972
I'm just interested in a single white Catholic girl m8
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>>67986634
in pākistān if women gert rape she die ok
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>>67986722
what, you think the muslims make the country rich?
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>>67986080
Shut up Deutscuck.
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>>67987224
lol stupid usa wannabe fuck off here
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>>67987238
muslims earn very much more than other races in america ok
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>>67987273
Said the fucking roach.
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>>67986722
what a fucking nigger.
I live in a fucking no go zone how i am supposed to avoid it ? my job pays me really good but can't find any good house near my work . FUCK YOU NIGGER ! you don't know anything about western countries , come here to live a little , you will understand why we all want to go to eastern countries once ours will turn even shittier or if socialist will gain even more power and use us as slaves.
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>>67987273
never go to usa never want to go to usa thank u
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>>67985823
PEOPLE HAD FEWER KIDS TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEM

AND NOW 49 YEAR OLD MUSLIMS GET EVERYTHING YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE TO YOUR KIDS
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>>67987356
r u from alergia frend
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>>67987033
Children are under peer pressure, so i heard from my friends. They want the good stuff and don't understand that their parents can't afford it, creating tensions. It's not only about shoes, and phones. You should get the idea Anders, check the average income in Poland if you don't believe me.

>>67987094
Plenty of them here, just come and get them.
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Because we're poor as fuck

t. pole
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>>67985823

They're aborting their shit in neighbouring coutries.
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>>67987562
And how do you know this ? Any source ?
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>>67987798

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-abortion-idUSTRE67P46Z20100826

or just google up "abortion tourism"
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>>67985823
Contraception
People don't breed
Also
>implying banned abortions mean an effective stop of abortions
Don't be naive Ahmed.
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>>67986288
That's tame by Russian standards, they abort more babies then they allow to be born.

Russia seems to be redpilled on life.
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>>67985823

Poland is shit. Who wants to stay in Poland when they can move to western europe? All the young left Poland.

The EU is a tragedy of the commons for Poles.
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>>67986095
>>67986288
>In the year 2004, there were 216,261 live births and 191,000 reported abortions,meaning that 46% of the 407,261 pregnancies that year ended in abortion.
Holy fucking shit, he's not even kidding.
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>>67986234
Some do, I've had some friends recently who came back. They didn't have any real attachments there though.

Coming back is much harder for most people
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>>67987961
Dutch joy of living

>>67987988
this will only go worse
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>>67987988
Y can't world b mor rich?

Moni is nice
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>>67987901
Thanks for the link, i wasn't aware.
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>>67987961
You see those yellow/orange regions? That's where the Muslims live.
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>>67988062
>tfw wyjechałem z rodzicami jako dziecko
>chciałbym wrócić do Polski
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>>67987988

Yup. It's fucked up and the only way we deal with it is if we manage to purge the government.
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>>67988062

Don't you have people that just work abroad and come back when they have enough money to start something at home?
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>>67988308
Uzbieraj $$$ i otwórz biznes w Polsce. Znam wielu takich ludzi, którzy żyją komfortowo w Polsce.

>>67988387
Yes we have
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>>67988387
Yeah that too, but they're a minority. Why start something in Poland when you have easy money in UK?

More popular is work tourism. Kids go to Western Europe to work during their vacation.
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>>67988458
dzięki anonku
myślałem otworzyć szkołe angielskiego w jakimś większym mieście
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Ayy lmao
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>>67985823
Well some of polish women seemed to figure out that when they have sex with polish men in poland they give birth to more poles. Amazing
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>>67985823
Post-commie atmosphere of low living standards, low public standards (widespread corruption there used to be, but now year by year it's being stopped), no sense of things getting better, being convinced to live on your own and be ashamed of your nationality, which left out a lot of poorer people and of course it's not like western degeneracy didn't hit Poland at all

Hopefully things will change, unless they fucking try to stop this government from reforming the country
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>>67988578
Będziesz miał ogromną konkurencję z tą szkołą.

Ja bym ci polecił rozważyć import klasycznych amerkańskich samochodów lub motorów.
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>>67987901
Pls, Nowicka is a person who raised his son to be a fucking stalinist, who justified the murder of polish officers in Katyn, she's just not a credible person

If something is banned by law, then that phenomenon will never be as big as it would be if it was legal
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>>67988937

>pis
>reforming anything

they're part of the problem, sempai, they just pretend otherwise
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>>67989123
At least they pretend to try, just look at the reaction of the academia, the media, also foreign

Also, say about them what you want, but it's the only political party that promoted patriotic upbringing and the effect on the youth is very clear, hopefully it will bring some effect :(
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>>67989313
>>67988937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRIITYILZ-s
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>>67989313
>the only political party that promoted patriotic upbringing and the effect on the youth is very clear

don't be naive. young people still leave the country because they see no perspective here. I was about to do that but I lucked out. want higher birth rates and poles staying in poland? stop raping them with taxes and zus so they can fucking afford to live decently. pis won't do it, because they don't care about poles, they just want power
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>>67989313
>at least they pretend to try

its like saying
>my secound rapist was better cuz he said sorry before thrusting his dick inside me

P*S is just as bad as P* but they try to hide it behind the cross
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>>67989101
Też niezły pomysł.

Ile USD sądzisz potrzebowałbym żeby coś takie zacząć?
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>>67989556
on the brightside. youll never have to deal with migrants because of your shit economy
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>>67989761 dla >>67989005
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>>67989786

you can have a good economy and shoot migrants from walls at the same time
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>>67989663
PiS is actually worse. They are worse because they are "patriotic" and shit at the same time. After four years of their rule people will get repulsed by an idea of right wing party.

>>67989786
We have migrants but it's mostly ukrainians so it's not that bad. It's still bad because they are ukrainians but it's not as bad as ahemds.
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>>67989394
apprently this video is too dangerous for my American mind to view, because i can't watch it. wtf is that about?
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>>67989880
Don't know, there seems to be some strong link between having it too easy and cuckery.
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>>67985823
Because noone wants to bring children into the world only to live in Poland.
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>>67989970

mandatory military service for everybody, regardless of gender, would solve that problem
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>>67985823
They just abort their kids in neighboring countries.
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>>67989918
very good parody of our politics
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>>67989761
około 30k - 40k $ mógłbys zacząć poważną dilerkę. Nie wiem na jaką skalę bys się przymierzał, ciężko powiedzieć bo to bardzo szerkoa branża. Musisz się rozejrzeć na własną rękę.

Ja mam pewien pomysł, ale naturalnie nie mogę zdradzić.

Powodzenia anon
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>>67989394

10/10
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>>67990049
Come to think of it some employers here write in their job advertisements that they require their applicants to have been in the military.
Coming from Germany the thought that this would have been a vicious hate/thought crime back home (and in the US) made me kek.
Austria is at least 5 years behind of Germany in regards to cuckery.
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>>67987952
>implying banned abortions mean an effective stop of abortions

It does though. Illegal abortions are very rare.
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>>67989918
Wow, just wow
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>>67990258
Dzięki za pomysł anonku

Powodzenia
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>>67989556
People leave the country, because salaries in Poland are low, and that's because Poland had a big ass unemployment, and that's because the economic transformation in Poland ruined a lot of companies and Poland became an underinvested economy, so anyone could be blackmailed

But as I say - I hope things will get better, the economy is growing, there's the plan Morawieckiego, who the hell knows, if you don't try, you won't get anything

It all comes down to social trust and cooperation. When people only think about their families and not about wider social cooperation, then you'll always live in a shitty country
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>>67989663
At least this cross is something that keeps degeneracy out of Poland, still
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>>67990854
And poverty is a virtue
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>>67985823
Need to go full Catholic and ban ALL birth control

Humanae Vitae isn't a cafeteria menu you can pick and choose parts to obey from:
http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html
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>>67990959
>implying giving dindus gold would turn them from animals into real boys
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>>67987988
I guess /pol/ is right when they say only niggers get abortions
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>>67990959
I'm not saying that the "cross" is everything you should care about, but it is also important

Can't you see what is happening in rich countries in the West? They're replaced by different people, because they're so degenerate
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>>67985823
Not enough African bulls to fertilize the polish wombs, they must leave poland for their insatiable lust for BBC.
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Consequences of Artificial Methods

>17. Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of the doctrine laid down by the Church on this issue if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection.
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>>67988102
We're a Calvinist swamp desu, can't blame us.
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>>67987094
Single white catholic girls aren't interested in your brown peepee doe.
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>>67989918

It's the attack on Titan opening just with references to Polish politics
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>>67985823
Because they're not too eager to start popping out babies when they make 400$/month
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>>67991113
I know anon, it's just bantz. Germans have become very weak thanks to 60 years of neuro-linguistic programming or brainwashing.

https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=0WjC5yvdaAo
Check this out, basically 'bitches and whores' ruined germany.
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>>67986388
you can thank ceaucescu. it's just the pendulum swinging back.
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>>67991328
...looks pretty bland there dutchbro, don't you guys put anything on that? Like a sauce, or a seasoning salt?
Looks like it could use some Tony Chachere's
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>>67991328
Whoever made this cant cook, where is the jus for over the potatoes?
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Holy shit. I thought abortion rate here in the US were high.
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>>67987961
>whole country killing their kids
>except for the sandniggers in Dagestan

well, shit.
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>>67991667
Gravy, normally.

>>67991731
I took the most suicide inducing picture I could find to be honest.
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>>67991778

abortion and homosex are virtues of a progressive nation.
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>>67987425
no, but i live in Algeria right now tho.
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>>67986643
>>67986722
>>67986769
>>67986913
>>67987033
>>67987390
>>67987457
>>67987562
>>67987901
>>67988937
>>67991412
>>67991778
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>>67985823
>not to be living walking "American-Gladiator" burger meme, but

YOU FUCKERS HAVE NO FIGHT LEFT IN YOU
GROW A SPINE & STAND UP
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>>67985823
Lack of money and things like daycare for kids whose parents work and it's basically a necessity here since no family could live on just one parent's salary. If you take out mudshits because they're basically animals breeding, it's the same issue in most countries all over the world.
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>>67985823

Because all the young poles are over here?
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>>67992226
>Mister President, Build that wall !
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>>67988696
how was your trip in France ? i live in Saint-Germain-En-Laye , did you enjoyed our castle and our great parc ?
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>>67992226
American whites aren't breeding either.
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>>67985823
Because Polish women go to neighbouring countries to have an abortion.
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>>67986080
kek, among men your age there will be more shitskins than whites in Germany by 2020. Pls just fade into history quietly.
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>>67985823
because they are all flocking to the U.K
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>>67991667
no, we european actually enjoy eating natural food, don't need all those salt and sauce that you burgers put in food to enjoy it.
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>>67985823
Neoliberalism
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>>67992236
>>67990816
>>67989556
>>67987457
kek, cheer up you sad cunts, Poland is great if you're smart and aren't just another beggar for a job like those millions of other sad cunts.

Literally the only problem you have is >tfw no job and >tfw low salary. The corollary of that is that everything is cheap as fuck. That means that if you make money online you'll become prosperous 3 times more easily than some cunt in Britain trying the same thing.

I make twice the money I need without doing anything (I started with my online business years ago, now without doing anything the money just rolls in) while you gloomy cunts are talking about how you can't even afford a kid when you and your wife are both working.

Take matters in your own hands, it's not a coincidence that Jewckerberg made billions with just a website, there's shekels to be made online, much much more than by begging for a crappy job you can hardly even find.
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>>67989394

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVDur6QA2OM&feature=iv&src_vid=NRIITYILZ-s&annotation_id=annotation_734580281
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>>67993629
I'm looking for a source of income a bit more stable than online poker.
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>>67995724
Not online poker, I program software and sell it online, been living off that for 7 and in much more expensive places than here. As far as anyone knows I haven't put in a single minute of work in half a year and I still get twice the money I need without fail.

But have it your way, I made 84k zł last year without even getting out of my house (except for travelling).
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>>67995827
*for 7 years
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>>67985823
tiny pollack peckers cant impregnate their bitches

they need more brown cocks :^)

t. sweden
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If I save enough money to live comfortably in poland and breed with a beautiful slav wife, would it be considered degenerate or would the white-slav-racemixed children acceped as Polish?
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>>67988308
u dumb fagget, i would trade places with you right now, we are poor as fuck
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>>67995984
>white-slav-racemixed
>degenerate
>tfw /pol/ is that autistic
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>>67992428
Awesome. I stayed with a girl on rue d'algere or something like that. Her flat was an old post office or sth. Best time of my life and first time in Europe. Love your country, frogbro
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>>67993629
how to make shekels online Pawel? Wishing and dreaming hard didnt work for me. Any meme magic u can share?
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>>67996201
Simple, I made a website, I made a program, I put PayPal buttons for my website, I made videos that show off my program and people send me shekels to get full access to my program.
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>>67996201

Start bitching about white cis priviledge online, tell on twitter how triggered are you, so triggered that you cannot even work.

Or say that you have an idea for very progressive feminsit show bashing cid white patriarchy

Easiest job in the universe!
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>>67985823
cause all their breeding age people move to the UK
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