If guns aren't responsible for mass shootings, why does Australia have no guns and no mass shootings?
And our mental health services are a joke, so don't use that as an excuse.
>>67968997
>firearm murders only count if the killer obtains an arbitrary minimum number of points
Why are liberals universally such terrible people?
http://freebeacon.com/issues/australia-sees-spike-in-gun-crime-despite-outright-ban/
Our schools are nowhere near as bad as America in terms of peer alienation and bullying, I'd say.
>>67968997
Of course you need guns for mass 'shootings' dumbass. The argument is that the lack restrictions allow people with mental health issues easy access to guns. People want to fix the mental health of the nation instead of getting rid of guns
>>67968997
>our mental health services are a joke
I see you've never visited the US.
>>67968997
Nobody wants to waste bullets on the barbie shrimp dick niggers.
>>67968997
you have no shootings because youre all too busy shitposting here
>>67969200
I don't think all shooters are mentally ill tho
>>67968997
Australia doesn't have 44 million negros. Any country with those numbers is bound to be completely fucked..
>>67968997
Because you're too busy shitposting
>>67969457
well, the term shooters is ambiguous since you can refeer to hunters, soldiers etc.. but itf you refeer to mass shooters/murderers then
>shooters
>mentally sane
pick one.
>>67968997
>If guns aren't responsible for mass shootings, why does Australia have no guns and no mass shootings?
They're reptilian Bilderburglers with eugenically modified genomes.
It literally doesn't matter hownman people die
We need the guns to keep the government cucked. They're not for hunting or self-defence or any other gay shit.
a pride of lions with one lion dead from gun violence is better than a herd of sheep with an extra living sheep
>>67968997
Australi and the UK saw increases in violent crime after banning guns. The UK saw a sharper increase because it has more diversity; homogenous societies tend to experience less violent crime. Yours is on the rise now that you import more machete weilders.
/thread
>>67969172
>peer alienation and bullying
That is just a bullshit excuse that is used in order to divert having the kids involved to take responsibility for their actions.
>>67969141
>"increase in gun crime"
>Murder rate fell from 1.9/100,000 in 1996 to 1.1/100,000 now
>percentage of homicides using guns is now under 20% and continues to fall.
US' stats are 4.8/100,000 with over 70% involving firearms. The homcide rate has not meaningfully fell since the turn of the millenium, despite a massive increase in CCW.
Wew lad
There has been an increase in gun grime in australia since the banning of firearms. Source: head of queensland police.
Australia never had a problem like America does with "mass shootings".
>>67968997
>NOGUNS
>no lone mass-shooters and other gun crimes well outside of conventional organized crime
Color me surprised
>>67969851
>>67968997
ITS BECAUSE OUR WOMEN ARE SO EASY THAT NO MATTER HOW UGLY OR BETA YOU ARE, YOU STILL CAN GET LAID
ALSO IF THEY CAN'T WE GOT LEGAL PROSTITUTION
AMEROCA ABSOLUTELY BTFO
>>67970053
m8, you're smoking crack. The US has a 500% higher murder rate than the UK and Australia, yet somehow has less overall violent crime?
>American education
>falling for NRA propaganda
We have a name for people like you, it's called a "dumb cunt" or "spastic".
>>67968997
Now you are beholden to the government...
FOREVER . As the world increasingly turns into a third world dump. Good luck
>>67970417
Take blacks out of the equation and see what you have. If we were really serious we'd just take the guns away from blacks. Good luck.
>>67970417
>The US has a 500% higher murder rate than the UK and Australia
adjust for population, adjust for diversity, l2math
>>67970336
Truly a culture eliot rogers would have thrived in.
Get rid of black people and re-run those numbers. America doesn't have a gun problem, it has a nigger problem.
>>67968997
>why does Australia
>>67969172
Less "diversity."
>>67970053
>violent crime is worst than gun murders
>>67970216
Except for the 13 or so in 18 years preceding Port Arthur you LOW INFORMATION cunt. Hoddle St Masscacre, Queen St massacre, Milperra Massacre etc. Ringing any bells? Coincidentally the killers in all those events would be unable to obtain guns under current laws (they bought all theirs legally), and suddenly we have no random massacres.
I WONDER WHY
>>67970417
There are variable definitions of "violent crime", respective to each particular nation.
That is a weasely statistic, but at least like a third, if not half of our violent crime (severe crime, murder, permanent injury, etc) is committed by black gangs which wouldn't have firearms acquisition as well hampered by regulations as would the general population
>>67970575
This is so true and we shouldn't even be mad since they're just killing other dindus and gangbanger scum.
>>67968997
Who the fuck needs guns when you can kick a random animal at your enemy and it'll kill them 10x more effectively?
>>67970642
>be psychopath
>want to commit a massacre
>can't do it because it's against the law to buy certain firearms
>>67970089
It is just the casus belli of the shooters. They are not mentally ill, they are tired of being treated like shit by Chad and Buffy and the bolshevik school administrators.
Typical regressives focusing on gun violence instead of violent crime statistics in general.
>muh gun violence is gone
>violent crime spikes after gun ban
>>67968997
>If guns aren't responsible for mass shootings, why does Australia have no guns and no mass shootings?
•You have biker gangs that make their own guns
•terrorists carried out an attack in your country with guns
•you're a big island with strict import/export laws
•you never had a 2nd amendment, hell you've never had 1st amendment
•you're a white nation
•their are probably still hidden gun stashes out there
The United States of America cannot be compared to any other country in the world. It is a unique and diverse place with different customs.
Fuck gun control
>>67970547
4.8/100.000 (US) vs 1.1/100,000 (UK and AU), I did the maths you LOW INFORMATION cunt. Still comes to around 420% higher, close enough.
And London (8 mil people, more than most US states) has proportionally more black people (15%) than the US as a whole, yet it's homicide rate is only 1.6/100,000.
HMMMMMMM
>>67968997
You better stop pushing this "guns = mass shootings" meme.
Because the facts do not support your position.
>>67968997
People are responsible for mass shootings. The gun doesn't float around and fire itself. Our rights shouldn't be cucked because some people are evil.
>>67968997
Because you're all fuccbois who like getting cucked out of everything and just take it, if somebody tries to cuck an American, they won't go down without a fight, because we're not pussies.
>>67968997
If you have no guns, how are there any shootings?
>>67970129
Your rates were already falling independent of gun control, and frankly, your gun control only made your country worse. The people that commit the worst crime with guns literally just make their own, and anybody that would commit other crimes with guns, just use other things instead. Also, you can't compare our two countries as they're very different in a lot of ways.
Furthermore your stats are very misleading, and as you've already been told countless times, are not really reflective of the efficacy of gun control in any way.
I don't know why you keep coming to these threads, I don't know why you're so obstinately against guns. I can only venture a guess that you're a retarded liberal Australian that probably lives in Melbourne and doesn't really care at all about his fellow citizens or the effect crime has on them, just inflating your own ego and trying to shove your poorly thought out and deceptively destructive ideologies down other people's throats.
Furthermore, you purposefully cite only your murder rates regarding gun crime. Funny that. You're probably the worst person in these types of threads, consistently.
>>67969457
I am with you anon why is the media so quick to call people who commit mass shootings mentally retarded. Surely that is an incorrect diagnosis
>>67970129
Going to need a source. CCW is not allowed in all states and CCW is not allowed on school grounds or government buildings. Does your source account for suicides by gun? Blah blah blah.
Wot's that, violent crime peaked in the 90s here and is now at record lows, despite far more stringent reporting requirements (mandatory investigation and processing of all DV allegations etc.) and "muh gun laws".
http://www.aic.gov.au/dataTools/facts/vicViolentRate.html
>>67971044
He always comes to these threads. He always gets told he's wrong. He purposefully misrepresents any and all information in a way that puts his stupid arguments and ideas in a positive light. He always does it in the same way and it's incredibly obvious to see when it's him.
Really obnoxious. I probably wouldn't be so bothered if it were for the fact that he actually cared about anything he was saying outside of just being right, which he does at the cost of his own integrity and honesty. He doesn't care, though.
>>67968997
If guns are responsible for mass murder, how does my country have 13k deaths per year with strict gun control, being unable to own anything bigger than a .38?
You must be trolling there was 15 shootings in one week in Melbourne
And there are over 800,000 legal firearm owners in oz that get put in the same category as crims coz of anti gun pussies like you
fuck off to north korea you commie piece of shit
>>67970888
Guns are responsible for them being able to kill multiple people with ease though. Hard to commit a school shooting without access to a gun lel, that's why we don't have them. The Columbine shooters said in their diaries that it was only the US' fucked up gun laws that allowed them to carry out their plans. They couldn't have got someone to get their shit from a gunshow here, and how else were two suburban white boiis gonna get semi-autos? Same is true for Batman shooter, plus Dylann Roof, and I can guarantee no teacher in Australia has a large stash of semi automatic weapons at their suburban house for their autistic son to steal (Sandy Hook). Virtually every major US mass shooting of the last 2 decades COULD NOT have happened in Australia.
>>67968997
y'all be 90% western european white, and your nonwhites are mostly asians. 50% of our homicides are caused by 12% of our population(niggers)
>>67968997
>why does Australia have no guns
We have many guns. Anybody can get a gun illegally if they want.
>and no mass shootings
We have some, they're just related to gang crime (and twice attempted by incompetent terrorists who can only kill one person before dying), not deranged madmen. America probably has a lot more undiagnosed nuts with money too.
There are more differences between us than a number of guns. If anybody wanted a gun to go on a killing spree they would get one.
>>67968997
Aussies are too drunk to plan violence anyway.
You just glass each other day and night. Don't pretend that makes you better.
>>67971488
All this tells me is that Brevik can put your country on top
>>67968997
Did that guy in the pic go full SAS with his marksman & tactics just based on his autism alone, or was this the greatest false flag in Strayan history.
Genuine question. Where do most Australians stand on this?
It seems like the people who got screwed were the law-abiding white citizens. I heard that biker gangs make their own weapons and shitskins are going to import them from durka durka land anyways, so whats the real deal here?
>>67968997
>>67971314
Because they aren't, and there's a lot more to homicide rates than whether or not there are guns prevalent. Taking them away doesn't do anything, and only serves to deprive people a way to defend themselves in the event that crimes do occur and are inflicted on people of honesty, and to deprive those that use them in recreational purposes. Not to mention that it's a principally bad thing to do to disarm a populous, as it can lead to a populace being unable to defend itself from any and all threats without third party or government interference.
This is a compromisation of safety and principle. Just a few days ago there were threads of an Australian person in a small town (~200 people) that was forced to house 400-600 refugees. Turns out the majority of these refugees were criminals and/or were affiliated with a gang, and the town was subsequently destroyed. These refugees even have guns and a way to terrorize the populace. The populace of the town was forced to band together in small areas, and without a way to defend themselves, they were prey to the whims of these gang members, who had guns. Police wouldn't do anything because it would be racist to. The town members can't do anything because it would end with a lot of dead town members and anything they did to defend themselves would be racist and punishable by law anyway.
How is a populous to defend itself if the government not only is both incapable and unwilling, but is actively seeking to undermine the interests of the populous and its safety? How can it do this without guns and contemporary weaponry? It can't. It's at the mercy of the government. It's too bad that the government is inefficient and subject to the whims of these retards >>67971633
We don't have many blacks relatively speaking.
>>67971898
soon(tm)
>>67971044
If you can find anything significantly innaccurate in my stats, please tell me. But you can't hence why you haven't KEK. Just another LOW INFORMATION burger.
I said CCW has expanded massively since the 90s. That's a fact. Yet your homicide rate has gone from 5/100,000 in 2000 to 4.8/100,000 in 2014. WOW, WHAT A DROP, THAT CCW IS REALLY MAKING A POLITE SOCIETY. Oh wait, that's almost the same homicide rate as Kenya..
>>67968997
Wow it's almost like a megamajority white nation without a border nation run by cartel gangs actually have nothing to shoot people over, imagine that.
>>67970860
About 80% of homicide in the U.S. is gang related.
>>67971934
You wish jamal.
https://youtu.be/rT12WH4a92w
>>67971745
False flag big time
But its hard to convince the commies that they are too brainwashed by left wing media
>>67968997
>comparing a low populated near-heterogenous country to a high-populated country with large brown demographic
>>67968997
easy access to guns does increase mass shootings. Regular shootings happen no matter what though. We should have our gun laws loosened honestly but with compulsory once a month gun club shooting record and our usual full background check plus mental health evaluation. That should placate our growing leftist cuck population.
My family is moving to Burgerland anyway if Trump gets in so I don't give a fuck.
>>67971944
better low information than misrepresented, biased, and retarded information desu desu
>>67972048
Not if Melbourne and liberals have anything to say about it :^)
If australia's post-port arthur mass shooting rate can be scalled up to america's population, we'd have 2-3 mass shootings per year.
>>67970246
His belly button is grimacing, just like I am
>>67971944
It dropped for almost 2 decades, 2014 was the first increase. The increase was in cities where blacklivesmatters were protesting to stop policing.
>>67969710
Of course they're referring to mass shooters, retard. God I hope Trump builds that wall
Its sunny and there are no shitskins so no one is depressed. But in all reality, if a country doesent have at least a few mass-shootings it cant be considered as white by todays standards.
>>67972132
They can't do anything unless the country elects a JUSTin trudeau, but fat chance some beta cuck is going to be voted in here in kangaroo punching land.
>>67971712
"Anyone can get an illegal gun". That's why even organised, well connected and well funded bikie gangs here have to resort to home-made guns that explode in their hands lel. You have to be incredibly well connected to access illegal firearms here, and even then they're almost never used in homicides
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=1502
US average gun homcides per year: 8000+
Australia: 20
LOLOLOL
EIGHT-THOUSAND (8000) VS TWENTY (20)
US CONFIRMED FOR 3RD WORLD
>>67972349
>but fat chance
I wouldn't count it out t b h
>>67972490
Yeah those are illegal guns lad
>>67972574
Keep desperately dreaming on then you cuck, I won't stop you.
>>67972073
I hadn't heard about this so I read some articles about the incident. It seems that this guys marksmanship would put him in the top 2 percent of all SAS shooters, but he had no real prior training.
That just seems way too crazy to be true. Either that, or be extremely kind to aspies from now on.
Shootings in Victoria and NSW have been on the rise though, and all I here from the law enforcers is to tighten their grip on guns, ie. restrict the normal people while inadvertly making it easier for criminals to get away with crime
>http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/there-has-been-a-spate-of-shootings-in-victoria-this-week/news-story/a49112d323e34c6e7aaba21231c62c69
>https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/31079247/vic-records-15-shootings-in-eight-days/
>>67972261
Um actually it dropped for 1 decade after the end of the crack epidemic lel, please learn to history. Your homicide rate was literally at MEXICO LEVELS during that time; bringing it down to a still-third-world level and being unable to reduce it in the last 15 years is no achievement at all desu.
>>67969851
Wow, Bill Hicks has really let himself go.
>>67972619
I'm not dreaming about I'm just telling you it's going to happen regardless because of people like this >>67972695
Your only hope is to purge the idiot liberals. Maybe you should keep any of them that actually have an IQ of 130+ so you don't get rid of the ones that actually contribute to your society doe
>>67972490
> ignores Australian homicide rate
Hurrr
>>67972634
The more you look into it the more it screams false flag
as for shooting skills I think it was something like 12 kills in 15seconds while shooting from the right hip even though he was left handed and had little shooting experience
Also the large morgue truck and no coronial inquiry doesn't add up
>>67972695
Try harder
>>67968997
You dont have a government causing mass shootings to get guns out of peoples hands because you are already sheep
>>67972574
Who's producing all these "illegal guns"? Does Glock just allocate a few thousand in their factory for "illegal use" or something? Orrr do 99% of guns start of as legal, but then through the US' complete lack of regulation regarding storage, sale and use, fall incredibly easily into the hands of crims, in a way that's impossible in a CIVILISED, SENSIBLE country like Australia or the UK?
20 gun deaths vs 8000. We also have over 1 million Aboriginal and African citizens, yet Detroit, with less than half that number, records over 300 homicides a year. So you can't just brush it off with "hurr durr niggers", as many LOW INFORMATION, UNCTUOUS burgers like to.
Burgers = stumped
I wonder..
>>67969851
What's that? An improvement of chest hair distribution? kek
>>67972975
WOW, OVER 10 YEARS YOU REDUCED YOUR FIREARM HOMICIDE RATE FROM 3.8 to 3.6!!! You realise you're proving my point? FYI Australia's firearm homicide rate is 0.13/100,000, 1000% lower than the US' :^).
"Bbbb-but only da outlawz will have da firearms?"
Yeah, fuck up you spastic cunts.
>>67970547
Also adjust for Size. Australia's largest city is 4Mil and we are very, very spread out.
Most violent crime happens in big, densely populated cities:
>Sydney 4m
>Melbourne 3M
>Brisbane 1M
We have nothing on the scale of NY, LA or Chicago and no Aus city has the levels of poverty in Detroit or Baltimore.
>>67973061
>Who's producing all these illegal guns
Literally anybody. Guns aren't particularly hard to make.
Continue to arrogantly and ignorantly misrepresent any and all facts to support your own retarded beliefs that have no bearing on reality or even any interest in improving your society, though. Nobody actually falls for your dumb shtick.
I wonder the kind of person you'd be if you were actually interested in promoting your society's interests instead of responding to each and every gun thread with kneejerk autistic reactions about how guns are bad but only if you look at these specific statistics and ignore any others and especially the big picture. Maybe you might put your autistic tendencies to good use.
You won't. Probably ever.
>>67973061
If guns are the problem NZ has gun laws like the ones we did pre 96 so where is all their massacres?
>>67973249
You realise Chicago has a population of 2.7million right? And Detroit barely has 500,000. You sound quite LOW INFORMATION to me.
Also, Brisbane has 2m, Sydney 4.2m and Melbs 4m. Please stop being so LOW INFORMATION, it hurts my head.
>>67973364
You sound a little butt-blasted m8 :^). I'm assuming it's not the first time you've been penetrated by the long Aussie Cock of Truth? Just accept it, you live in a violent, primal society, which needs to be enlightened by other, more civilised countries. Your current President and his inevitable successor have both said "look to Australia". I'm merely trying to help your poor, backwards country.
>>67971744
>All this tells me is that Brevik can put your country on top
>>67973414
NZ has only ever had one public Port Arthur-style massacre in the last 100 years, the Aramoana massacre. They had no problem, thus required no solution. Wheras we had 13 in 18 years prior to 1996. BIT MORE OF A PROBLEM THERE, M9!
>>67973364
>retarded beliefs no bearing on reality
>looks at the stats and call them autistic
>"hurr durr improve ur society"
Holy shit, you're retarded. I love guns but to imply there isn't a major gun control issue in America is ignorant of reality, with so many guns in circulation and how easy it is for people to get guns legally even with criminal/healthcare issues is the problem. People such as yourself will make a myriad of excuses, such as "criminals don't follow the law!' or "insane shooters will get it somehow!" but why is it that the majority of criminals and nearly EVERY mass shooter bought their guns legally? Because all of these people aren't as well-connected as you believe, they just can't go down the street to some nignog that makes guns and buy some. But hey, I'm a bleeding liberal or whatever bullshit delusion retards like you will correlate with beliefs that go against theirs. You can't improve society by ignoring the facts dumb nigger, you're part of the problem.
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> everything faggy bogans need to pull their gun grabbing heads out of their cunts
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/srsly
>>67973812
>but why is it that the majority of criminals and nearly EVERY mass shooter bought their guns legally?
Gonna need some sauce desu.
>>67969384
Downunderrated keks
>>67973927
Pls don't shoot yourself Burgerbro; I do know you're stastically far more likely too than any "bogan" :^)
>>67973614
No, it's not the first time I've had the misfortune to be in the same thread as you, and it's not the first time I've cringed at your ridiculous arguments that are made with no actual interest in them outside of how they can allow you to take the moral high ground, which you have no right to, and have no real support outside of your cherry picked "facts", that again, have no interest in the facts and reality and how a society can be improved.
Your motivation is the most questionable thing here. The second being your nebulous arguments of course, but that's beside the point. Stop pretending to care. Just come out and say that you're the smart and civilized person and that everyone else is dumb and barbaric, so I can tell you that I'm smarter and a better person than you are.
>>67973812
>but why is it that the majority of criminals and nearly EVERY mass shooter bought their guns legally?
Probably because it's easier. If you're going to go off on an autistic tirade about being ignorant of reality, do yourself a favour and stick to arguments that actually address the implied senseless arguments that you cited.
>>67974016
Sorry, meant criminals that aren't in gangs and have connections. It makes sense that the majority of criminals that aren't in gangs wouldn't have access to guns illegally, and would have to go through the legal route. Hence why people like the Supreme Gentleman, James Holmes, the autistic guy /r9k/ guy a while back and so on who commit all these mass shooting buy their guns legally. The legality is just one aspect of my argument though, since it's more a matter of gun control and the government's failure to stop gun trafficking - a state with a bunch of dindu nuffins with harsh gun control laws have a person who hooks them up. That person buys guns from other states with shitty laws, generally.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/gun-traffickers-smuggling-state-gun-laws.html
>>67974377
>Probably because it's easier
Yeah, that's the point you fucktard lmao. Thanks for proving me right.
>>67974016
Ok, Columbine: gun show
Virginia Tech: bought legally online/in store
Batman Shooter: legal gun shop purchase
Sandy Hook: Legally bought by his mum
Charleston: legally bought for him as a present.
Elliott Rodger: legally bought from gun shop
They're all the major ones, and NONE of them were carried out with black-market guns. ALL of them would have not been possible in Australia, that is a fact. Sandy Hook mum wouldn't have had guns to steal, and the others wouldn't have been able to obtain theirs legally, or any other ways as they were all middle-class autistic cunts with zero (0) criminal connections or capacity to source guns otherwise.
>>67974377
Nice autistic rant devoid of even one (1) fact or statistic :^).
>American education
>>67974845
That doesn't inherently mean that they can't get guns, or have the capacity to do the things that they can do with those guns anyway, without even getting guns. Them being easier to get doesn't even necessarily equate to them not being able to get them or kill a lot of people at all, was the point. It doesn't even equate to stopping a single mass shooting or mass killing at all.
>>67975236
I just don't know what to say anymore desu lel
You're p dumb, I don't think you're even really capable of rational or logical debate or discourse.
>>67975236
>autistic rant
>:^)
Here's your (you)
When will you come back to the discord?
>>67968997
>Aussies have no guns
Then what do their militaries use?
>no mass shootings?
plenty of violent crime still is poisonland, much more violent crime than our respective mass shootings. I appreciate your consideration for our country, but help yourself before you help us
>>67975541
How would people like Elliot Rodger amongst others get guns if they don't have connections are autistic like most mass shooters if not legally? You never explain this, sure it doesn't mean they can't do it but statistically they probably won't which is what we're basing this argument off - not autistic rants, like what you're doing now.
>>67970417
-minority violence
same gun murder rate as switzerland
America has a gang problem not a gun problem, you can't blame inanimate objects for the actions of their owners, guns are an effective tool of self defense you so carelessly want to deprive others of. You are a hater of those who wish to defend themselves
>>67973249
>We have nothing on the scale of NY, LA or Chicago and no Aus city has the levels of poverty in Detroit or Baltimore.
>not accounting for nigger crime
wew lad
>what is Port Arthur
>>67970745
>be a woman who is physically weaker than say, a 250 pound nigger
>used small concealed gun on nigger when he tries to rape said weak woman
>was able to do so because of her constitutional rights
proportionally, the limelight massacres in the US are but a mere fraction (less than 1/1000) of the gun murders committed by gan members against other gang members, yet when people who are for gun control try to convince others, they always use the sensationalist accounts instead of the facts. Which is that violent minorities commit the most murders with guns in the US (specifically blacks and mexicans)
>>67970885
update it with france now.
>>67971712
we also have alot less blacks.
just look at statistics for theft or rapecrime between us and aus much higher in the us
>>67975924
There's not a whole lot that would stop them from aquiring guns relatively close to the same way they would now if it were illegal for them to do so. Just because they're autistic doesn't mean they can't get them criminally. If someone were to sell their gun illegally they probably wouldn't care if the person they were selling it to was a supreme gentleman. And there's nothing to say that it wouldn't be easy for them to do so anyway.
Not only that, but if there weren't any guns, there's nothing to stop them from going through with their autistic cuck fueled killing sprees anyway. They could use a knife. They could make a bomb or mustard gas. They could run people over with a car.
This is like the argument that in order to curb suicide you should reduce the availability of guns to these same people. If they don't have guns, they'll use something else. It may not even necessarily be less effective, if they put their minds to getting a high score.
Are you going to start policing and regulating all of these other things to the same degree that you suppose we should guns? How do you propose to do that?
Here's something you people never explain. How are you going to stop these people from doing these things? Taking away guns doesn't solve the problem, it just forces them to change their tools they use to do so. Are you going to start locking these people up if they show signs of depression or similar tendencies as the people who commit these vile acts?
>>67972118
>no sights
>stupid mag release
#triggered
>>67972490
>US CONFIRMED FOR 3RD WORLD
Ever hear of "niggers?"
>>67968997
Because Australians are literal faggots.
I mean, even in New Zealand, a place that mirrors Australian politics where it can, has more gun violence than you.
>>67973715
>Landmass can shoot
Damn, why don't we arm Alaska and let its earth defeat ISIS?
>>67974972
>Sandy Hook: Legally bought by his mum
He fucking killed his mom to get the guns.
>Charleston: legally bought for him as a present.
Illegally, since he already had a criminal record.
So why is the report on this incident classified?
>>67975924
1. Straw purchase
2. Steal them
3. Build them
4. Use explosives instead
Also, you're probably betting that we don't know that there's nothing you can do without cucking the entire nation out of their guns to stop people with no criminal record and no involuntary adjudication as mentally ill from purchasing firearms, so fuck off and stop shilling for cucks. You can keep being a limp wristed faggot while the men work on getting rid of the hughes amendment and NFA.
>>67968997
Port Aurthur was the false flag of all false flags, you literally have to be a retard to believe otherwise
There were 15 people shot in 8 days in Victoria this month. Pretty interesting given that Victoria probably has the strictest gun control in the country.
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/03/12/fifteen-shootings-in-eight-days-in-victoria.html
If anyone hasn't done so already, I highly recommend talking to a Greenie about gun control. Ask them something like "I'm guessing you believe that the government and their bully boys, the police, are quite oppressive, right?". To this they will invariably say yes because the Greens are neo-Marxists. They might fluff about, but they will still say essentially yes (especially if you mention the Liberals). Proceed to then ask "If the government and their bully boys are oppressive, why on Earth would you entrust them to be the only legally armed group in the country? Why do you trust them more than the average citizen?".
Pretty funny to see them struggle to counter because if they say they don't trust them they are implying they support private gun ownership and that if they do trust them then they are justifying any oppression caused by the government and their bully boys.
>>67977803
>There were 15 people shot in 8 days in Victoria this month.
This. Guns haven't magically disappeared, and people literally still get shot here ALL THE TIME.
>>67973927
The fuck, in the southeast corner of Chicago they spelled hegewisch wrong on that map of neighborhoods.
>>67972490
>You have to be incredibly well connected to access illegal firearms here
So very wrong.
Damn moon crickets.
>>67968997
Because any aussie that has a gun is preoccupied with shooting birds that cant fly.
>>67968997
>And our mental health services are a joke, so don't use that as an excuse.
This
Had some boomer Psych tell me like 3 times on the FIRST session that
"What do want to do" hed ask
i said
"Ive tried alot of things i dont know
He then got all defensive and said
"I am not a career Councillor" 3 times
What the fuck? Goddamn sucks going back to my regular psych he may be a goddamn Gen X but he has a comfy beard and doesnt put me down
Also whats the Govt solution?
>Uhh uhhh ANTI DEPRESSANTS?!
Lol
>>67976841
When you have homicidal tendencies, and openly admit to it and the authorities are alerted you shouldn't be able to buy weapons. Hundreds if not thousands of people would be alive if it was properly enforced, which it isn't. Several of the mass shooters even admitted they wouldn't have the courage to do it if it wasn't for the guns, honestly there's a multitude of issues regarding psychopaths that goes beyond simple gun control but to imply lives wouldn't be saved by common sense gun regulation is ignorant of reality. But the media won't stop glorifying autists that go on rampages, so you might as well make it significantly harder for these fags to get weapons.
>>67977343
1. See: Gun Control
2. Doubt the autists have the skill
3. Doubt the autists have the skill
4. Only the smart autists have the skill, which is extremely rare.
Keep sucking NRA's sloppy dick, redneck. It's retards like you that are stopping common sense gun regulation from happening, if someone says "hey yea I fantasize about slaughter school children" to his therapist every day, he should be temporarily banned from owning guns. Pretty common sense solution, but muh constitution muh guns obummer is gunna take it away!
>>67969457
They're not
Everyone else is
