what would the world be like now if Ron Paul got elected in 2008 or 2012??
terrible.
there would be freedom and prosperity everywhere.
No war in the Middle East, Israel is now Palestine, no Jews jewing us, most of the bureaucracy is gone, PATRIOT Act and NSA spying struck down, no gun regulations, no SJWs, 10% GDP growth, no unemployment, anime is real.
>>67956794
Gorbachev style collapse of the economy and the US allaince system leaving the dollar status getting BTFO and the US becoming a second world shithole at best.
>>67956794
Ron Paul has a deep history with the occult. He is the same as all of them. He's just used to appeal to a different crowd.
Nothing will stand in our way, I will finish what you started
>>67956794
>>67956794
It might have been ok, but I think we are beyond that now. Its a shame, I am not a lolbertarian but I can admire the pauls.
>>67956794
God damnit why didn't he get in....oh yeah he/we got screwed
>>67958404
I know he is masonic. what else is there?
US would be suffering just as bad as Europe is right now during the Migrant Crisis, and illegal immigration in general would be a much worse problem. I will never understand why people loved Ron Paul so much, he's a complete flaming retard on so many issues.
>>67956794
Hordes of browns everywhere because he's an old cuckold who hates borders
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>>67956794
federal power would have been distributed back to the states... We could all decide where we fit best and live a life of peace and prosperity.
but the establishment railroaded his campaign and message. Now they seem to be having a harder time with trump.
>>67959800
the economy will boom so much that we will all have 4x4 ford trucks to drive on the broken roads.
>>67956794
No borders would exist
White-only businesses would return
All roads would have tolls
Motors would generate power from static electricity
Gold and silver coins would replace worthless fiat currency
Citizens would own nukes
>>67956794
There would be no Trump presidency, thank fuck. Ron Paul was a genuinely anti-establishment candidate, unlike Trump.
why did he lost again?
>>67960372
low energy
>>67958472
Kek bretty good
>>67960372
Same reason Bernie is losing, this grassroots style campaign doesn't work. Trump will be the model to emulate going forward.
;_;
>>67960564
How can anyone who isn't a billionaire follow Trump's model?
>>67960703
Take an actually look at the campaign spending totals, Trump has spent far less than every other candidate currently running.
>>67960703
You don't need to be a billionaire, you just have to not be an autistic retard.
>>67960703
>How can anyone who isn't fucking awesome follow Trump's model?
Ftfy, he's spent 30 million or so and gotten 1 billion plus of free air time
>>67960871
Ok, so be a reality show star? I don't get what model you actually mean.
>>67958472
is this accurate
>>67961246
Trump is able to spend so little money because he tricks the media into being free publicity for him.
>>67960372
Most people don't actually want freedom, they want Big Daddy Government to protect them and give them things. On the right and the left, it's just as evident with Trump voters as it is with Sanders voters.
>>67960703
Trump's model isn't based on his money
>>67961442
ginger on right is a total qt
too bad her brain is shit
>>67961246
Basically, if you can entertain the people, you've got a good shot at getting in the office
>>67961442
Most people can't handle freedom. Have you noticed how many goddamned idiots are out there?
>>67956794
He wasn't willing to go all the way.
He wasn't willing to go for the throat.
He was too polite. Too clean. And he always has been.
Unlike him, Trump is a lion. A real leader.
Ron paul is the best possible choice in any scenario except a leadership position. You can't just be taught that.
>>67961363
No. Ron Paul doesn't support Trump.
>>67960703
you just need to say whatever the fuck people want to hear, but be rich enough to appear impossible to sue
>>67961246
The Trump model is:
>Talk about the issues people actually care about, not the ones the media and other candidates are focused on
>Forgo the typical political game nonsense like phone banking and ground campaigning
>Never apologize for anything you do or say
>Take every opportunity the media gives you for free publicity
>Attack opponents only in retaliation
>>67958472
Paul has criticized Trump like most in the political field. Trump is probably closer than most to hit the mainstream, but still too far away and ideologically impure for Paul. Paul is more of a Cato to Trumps Caesar than anything else.
>>67961788
Isn't that mostly Bernie's model too though? And Ron Paul's?
>>67961829
That's only because Trump stumped Ron's manlet son. Trump and Ron's policies are actually somewhat similar, like how Trump will refuse to be the world's police and more like the world's PMC.
>>67961587
A polite, clean person is much more of a leader than the overgrown used-car salesman that Trump is. Ron Paul at least had principles. Trump doesn't, he'll say anything to pander to whoever's in front of him, not caring if he's consistent from one day to the next.
>>67961788
you forgot
>Lie, because you don't care
>>67961586
I fear you're right. Most people apparently don't care. We're going to a general election with two candidates who want to rip up the Bill of Rights, and they're being cheered on by their respective bases.
>>67961829
If you mean Cato as in historical people, then I don't know enough to weigh in on this and would probably agree. If you mean the Cato Institute, Paul certainly would not be Cato.
>>67956794
If Paul were elected
>we would have already recovered economically (instead of headed for recession)
>we never would have funded/started ISIS
>never have been Arab Spring
>The Fed might be gone
>We'd be paying our debts
>Healthcare would be cheaper due to removal of government-granted monopoly
>Liberals would be mad butthurt
>Heroin would be legal
>War on drugs would be over
>Marriage would be private
>Liberals would still be extremely butthurt
>>67962207
No, not at all. Their model was to pander to young voters to get donations and volunteers for ground work, while still running an entire typical campaign.
>>67962369
Trump and Ron Paul are completely opposed policy wise. How could you even think for a second they are mostly the same?
>>67960372
FUCK YOU
>>67956794
it would certainly be different.
i think there would be a prolonged recession due to putting the US back on the gold standard and by abolishing the federal reserve. however, even though the economy would take longer to recover - at this point it would be showing small signs of recovery but we would know the economy would be headed toward a far less volatile environment due to legit stabilization of the dollar.
home values and tuition would go down by limiting governments role in financing. it would really hurt people who bought homes at the peak or students who took out loans. because there would be no FHA or FAFSA, loan services would be privatized, creating lower loan values and more competition equating to smaller loans with smaller interest rates.
by not being the world's policeman, we would save a lot of money on military but feel unsafer due to overseas threats and lack of presence overseas.
all in all the government budget would decrease substantially, causing a wild economic reaction due to lesser government influence and a strengthening dollar. the recovery would have taken longer but it would be more prosperous and stabilized afterwards, likely more than ever before.
>>67962489
He's pretty consistent ideologically.
He just finds himself getting to into the moment. He has on several occasions corrected himself later a on certain topics.
He's pretty much /pol/ incarnate without the autism.
>>67962207
>Bernie's model too though? And Ron Paul's?
these are too completely different things. socialism vs. minimization of government.
Something like this
>>67963669
I meant campaign model. Not policy model.
Ron Paul was the Bernie Sanders for me. But because his supporters preached and practiced libertarianism, they were the only ones who supported him, they didn't fall into the meme status. He wasn't successful because he held to his ideology first which meant when it came to applying libertarianism it would require a lot of changes people just aren't comfortable with and would be radical.Trump sees the common sense solution that doesn't require radical changes but no one would do it because the SJW would tear them down, it took someone with the ego to match the SJW to do it, Trump.
>>67956794
This is a picture of Ron Paul in front of the Sydney skyline.
So he would make America great, like Australia.
>>67964003
everyone's campaign model is the same: to get elected. pretty stupid observation
>>67959723
Illegal immigrants wouldn't have come here if Ron had been elected and ended all gibmedats programs.
>>67956794
Like your picture
>>67965256
Mexicans and other South Americans are more interested in working for pennies than government handouts. Ron Paul's America with no minimum wage would be their dream.
>>67956794
He would be assassinated.
>>67965687
any president trying to battle jews will get assassinated, sad world is sad.
