What went wrong?
>>67933996
This is all you need to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU
>>67933996
Britain staged a coup.
He was the best ruler we ever had.
>>67933996
He was allowed to inherit the crown.
Bismarck wasn't around to control.
>>67934263
*control him
>>67933996
britain came intothe war and germanylossedthe first battle of the marne..the entire world would've been somuch better if the germans won a quick war.
>>67934263
Wilhelm II. did nothing wrong.
>>67933996
Bismarck won enough to make them arrogant but didn't stick around long enough to embed a realistic view of their capabilities.
>>67934325
Bismarck was around and got dismissed. Bismarck couldn't contain him. His parents were horrible, he was terribly self-concious (like elliot rodgers tier masculinity issues), not to mention his gimpy arm. His parents were horrible; Father was okay but never took the time to educate his son on the office of Emperor before kicking the bucket (Queen Victoria's doctor that was send over failed to spot his throat cancer), mother was sending intel on Germany's state of affairs to England on his deathbed (weaksauce desu).
The thing that doesn't get emphasized enough though is the role of the Danish princess in the post Prusso-Danish war, who actively worked to alienate Willy from the rest of the larger royal family and helped forge good relations between England and Russia.
He also suffered from the same thing that Nicky II and Louis XVI suffered from; inaction.
>>67934227
better than Fredrick the Great?
>>67933996
jews
>>67934883
>Fredrick the Great?
Homosexual Francophile desu
>>67934971
Hitler had 1 nut as well, no?
>>67933996
Shitty upbringing that made him an egotist which drove all of his terrible goddamn decisions.
His shitty mother was English so blame the eternal Anglo once more.
>>67934883
He was King of Prussia. Wilhelm II. was the first real German emperor.
>>67934846
He didn't suffer from inaction at all. If anything the opposite was the case.
>>67933996
>What went wrong?
We lost. Admit it. The world would be a better place if the german side won. Even a tie would have shaped the world for the better
>>67935094
He had 3 actually, don't believe jewish lies.
>>67935148
Naah, the Moroccan crisis was a perfect example of that. He went in full speed, but at the end backed off and tried to play it down.
Same with WWI where he started backpeddling almost immediately from the start, thinking he did after his correspondence with Nicky on Russian mobilization.
>Reminder that the German Imperial house is descendant from William of Orange and have a claim to the Dutch thrown
>>67935593
I don't think anybody here denies that.
>>67935593
well we basically had won by 1916, but then the zionist bankers in germany betrayed us, went to britain (balfourt declaration) and used their influence to get the US into the war. germany even offered to not crush france and britain, go back to old borders and call it quits.
but the british and french war was funded by jp morgan so the allies losing meant no money for jp morgen (biggest bank back then). balfourt declaration (through jews influence in media and banking) and jp morgan wanting his money got us the US into the war. the lisuthania was even owned by jp morgan.... all a deliberate scheme.
>>67934727
Der Typ war bekloppt. Er hat Bismarcks komplexe Außenpolitik innerhalb weniger Jahre zunichte gemacht nur um paar Restkolonien in Afrika abzustauben. Dazu kommt noch die "Ich will aber auch!"-Mentalität bei der Flottenpolitik.
>>67935811
Reminder that they don't actually. Rules got turned upside down when Willem III didn't produce a viable male.
Officially speaking the proper claimant to the Dutch throne is Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach and is the senior branch of the house of Wettin and is part of the same house as the Royal Houses of Belgium and the UK.
>>67935593
Jesus was crucified, no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMecO38MZCc
>>67935984
That's quite a few unsubstantiated claims there Hans
>>67936178
too much propaganda hans.
in the last 6 weeks before WW1 he was the ONLY country leader who actively tried to avoid the war.
the war happened in the end because of a secrect pact between britain and france that said that brits would help france in case of a german attack. but neither the german governemt nor the british government knew about it. thats because churchill and his "friend" grey (diplomant) signed that pact without telling the british government.
if this would have been official, then germany wouldn´t have done shit because, like in WW2, germany didn´t want war with britain. germany would have told to austria-hungary to accept 9 of the 10 demands they gave to serbia and deal with it... war prevented.
>>67936178
It's was Bismarck's own fault desu, creating a web of alliances that he alone was able to navigate.
Wilhelm might've been crazy, but he wasn't a bad ruler perse. Just a terrible mix of horrible parents, body issues, and being used by everyone to further their own goals.
>>67933996
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>>67933996
Abandoning Bismarck's principles
>>67935148
>Wilhelm II. was the first real German emperor.
You're thinking of Otto I.
>>67936608
>churchill
Churchill was in no position to do anything at this point in time, being First Lord of the Admiralty, he never had any control of Britain's diplomatic policies at this point.
>>67933996
His Limp hand did him in
>>67936178
1. Russland war nicht bereit sich mit Deutschland zu verbünden.
Die Panslawistische Duma waren dagegen und Österreich war deswegen ein wichtigerer verbündeter welcher Deutschland nie verraten würde.
2. Die Flottenpolitik war wichtig um Deutschlands Kolonien zu sichern. Vorallem vor England.
>>67936908
I mean since the restoration of Germany in 1815 and the reunification in 1866/1871.
>>67937096
>Österreich war>>67936695
>>67936695
ein wichtigerer verbündeter welcher Deutschland nie verraten würde
>>67933996
I think a bit of mutual family love and respect when he grew up would have improved things greatly especially with his British cousins who didn't get on with him too well partly because of differing attitudes to how they do things but also Cowes week. Also his mum was a bit of an asshole. But things would have been better if the people who helped his mother deliver him knew what the fuck they were doing and not bugger up his arm during his breech birth perhaps instead going for a C-section.
all in all i think he was an alright guy who had a few issues but he mellowed out in his later years. If fortune had been kind to him and he stayed on the throne after the war I think he would have been remembered more fondly.
>>67935148
It was just a stroke of fate that we didn't join the central powers. For once, we had a pretty darn good modern military and could have mobilized a couple hundred thousand men.
If we could threaten Russia from the north, then the Eastern front might have been won sooner. We had a pretty good military since we were expecting a war against Norway.
>>67937682
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>>67937834
Google "Admiral Essen".
Sweden actually came pretty close, before the other Scandinavian powers agreed with them on signing a neutrality agreement.
>>67938205
Yeah, I know about him, crazy fella.
The thing was, had he kept going, the people here would have chimped out. We had a gigantic manifestation were peasants gathered from all of the country and marched to the Royal palace to proclaim the loyality and ask the King to defend them, because they distrusted the liberal government that collapsed following that event.
Had there actually been a war, started by Russian aggression then the social democrats and liberals had been totally screwed.
>>67936481
do you even history? this shit can easily be found sourced in books.
churchill even order the military escort of the lisuthania back and they were told to drive slower to make sure that they´ll be shot by a german sub.
all wars are bankers wars, WW1 was about economy for the allies/US/jews just like WW2.
>>67936968
yeah reading helps. it was grey, the diplomant, who signed the treaty. churchill was in on it already bought the corrupt bastard.
>>67938954
I think you should read Graf Ernst zu Reventlow's "vampire of the continent". If you think that you have a better idea of what's going on than the Graf, then you are a fool.
There was more to it than Jewish conspiracies and fractional reserve banking hadn't becomed popular yet, so banks were pretty much only in the short-term financing business.
>>67939384
of course there was more going on, i just listed a few main points.
again economic/industrial strength of germany was a threat to britain, advancement with the bagdad bahn (oil and troops quick to india). with peace, germany would have become too strong and would have dominated the europe mainland while the british empire started crumbling.
>>67939384
"fractional reserve banking".
jp morgan just bought up military stuff and send it to britain. there wasn´t "direct" banking involved.
also the book you mentioned only has 250 pages? seems rather low on info. i´m just 600 pages into the WW1 area and have another 1200 pages lying around first.
>>67940632
It is a starter if you want to know the eternal anglo. I have only read the English version, but in the German version they take up the problem of America to a larger extent I think.
