Should pornography be illegal? Why or why not?
There is no question that pornography encourages and glorifies degenerate behavior and hurts the productivity of society. Most conservative countries and most countries in SE Asia, which have stronger values than western countries (except Japan and Hong Kong) have strict laws against pornography. Sexual attitudes have become too open in the west IMO.
>>67906818
No because I like watching videos of barely legal asian girls peeing on each other and stuffing animals into their butts.
It promotes the sexualization of women. I'm not trying to go sjw on you bc I fucking hate those but when people watch porn it completely fries their ideas about love.
I guess Ill share with /pol/ I was so addicted to porn at one point that I had more fun masturbating to porn than having sex with my girlfriend.
The availability of porn floods your brain with dopamine (the feel good hormone) at levels the brain has never known so you become habituated and eventually you cant find happiness or pleasure in anything except the new more graphic fetish.
Idk if it should be illegal but it has the same addictive tendencies as drugs so I think there should be more information about it
>>67907681
> I'm going to project my problems onto the rest of the world: The post
Only weirdoes, freaks and losers fall into the trap of seeking out ever-more-graphic material, faggot, plenty of people can use porn responsibly and not confuse the sex that happens there with romantic love
Also, if masturbating is more fun than having sex with your gf, she either is terrible in bed or you're a latent homosexual
Yes in certain hardcore forms and it was for a long time until that certain group of people that pushes for progressive attitudes about everything fought against it.
Make porn illegal. Legalize prostitution. Women take up those jobs, freeing up positions for men to take.
It's a flawless plan.
>>67907908
Shit I didn't realize the immaculate anon with no problems was browsing today.
Yea plenty of people use it responsibly.
Plenty of people drink responsibility
Plenty of people do drugs responsibly
Plenty of people take out credit cards responsibly.
That doesn't mean that there aren't cases of these things getting out of hand and fucking up peoples lives.
All I said was that people should know the risks so that they can keep it in control better. If I had known it had actual physical effects in the brain I would have limited myself more.
>>67907681
the whole internet is as addictive as porn desu, theres no longer any separation between porn and the internet as a whole (see: 4chan)
at this point the only solution is to make all private internet use illegal.
>>67906818
I'm not sure about total illegalization, but some stricter oversight and less abundance to teens whose brains are still developing probably would not be a bad thing.
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/
>>67908536
simple solution - just make the whole internet age verified or have two seperate nets.
I believe a lot of the same effects seen in YBOP actually apply to all instant internet materials, even without porn, i.e. conversation "porn" like 4chan
>>67906818
>Should pornography be illegal?
No.
>Why or why not?
I used to not be in favor of pornography because it's a Jewish scheme to rot white civilization from the inside, but now I like it for the sole purpose of offending liberal women.
imo it's probably a good idea to even have only a text-only internet available to teens, no image or video service of any kind at all outside of educational channels
>>67908481
Assuming a law to do so could be passed, couldn't all ISP's just be forced to connect to a national intranet of government hosted/ DNS filtered sites?
>>67906818
No. Porn is the only sexual gratification I will ever get. I'm a 21-year-old kissless virgin with bad social anxiety. I'll never be able to get a girlfriend.
>>67908875
that's what they do in Singapore, Korea etc and people just get around it with VPNs and shit
and there's so many gray areas, like 4chan, which aren't porn sites but because of anonymity still have porn on them
If they ban porn I'm going postal.
>>67908875
*as in, all external sites would have to be on an IP whitelist on the DNS servers
>>67906818
>have become
Western civilisation has a more bipolar and restrictive attitude towards sex than it used to, because western civilisation goes back further than christian middle ages.
>>67909076
I used to think that way, then I quit/reduced porn drastically and realized my real addiction was the internet itself and 4chan. I would be fine with porn being banned but the whole internet being banned would be a different story
Also I think a total illegalization would work best only if combined with laws to encourage marriage - namely reducing public schooling, encouraging/funding younger marriages and possibly some sort of arranged marriage program
Daily reminder that this company owns pretty much all porn online.
Daily reminder that /pol/ is always right.
>>67906818
I would say not neceserally made fully illegal but made sure only adults can get to it.
Because kids are frankly retarded horny bastards that should not see it until they are mature.
An age cap of like 22 would work best.
How do you make it is probably not allowing digital distribution and only direct purchase available with an ID.
>>67909450
Do they own 4chan?
4chan has distributed more porn to the youth than any other site if you really think about it. We need to own up to the fact that WE are the problem instead of deflecting to Tumblr
http://m.imgur.com/xhfIsNC?r
Gender equality courtesy of the United States Marine Corps
>>67909465
the problem is that even without commercial sites, teenagers will make their own with their phones.
imo the real solution is to somehow make an age cap for ALL internet enabled device purchases
>>67906818
>>67909623
The thing is that is a lot less damaging then current fetishism.
And requires horny teens to know each other which probably means porn won't really happen.
Also you can just make porn done by people under the age of 22 illegal in your country and a simple spook campaign will stop most kids.
>>67909816
what do you think would be the fate of anonymous forums like this one in that system?
would they be taken down universally?
>>67909529
lol. Keep thinking that bud. Take a look at what MindGeek owns and operates, and then maybe come back to the conversation table.
>>67909529
4chan is a website of peace. It's clearly a false flag by sheekyforums and reddit to make us look bad once again
>>67909906
Hmmm...
I would wager things like this would not require banning as they have a relatively low population and they are not full porn, plus some things here have a high enough shock value to scare people away and again with the shock campaign you can scare people into not going here or not saving stuff.
This is the only way I can imagine making it work without doing a 2 internet system or a controlled internet system which both are not that desirable as it risks privacy and censorship.
>>67909623
There is a difference between lovers exchanging naked pictures and getting off to an impersonal simulacrum.
>>67906818
> (except Japan and Hong Kong) have strict laws against pornography.
Define strict laws because the censoring because the fact they are still censoring lower genitals to this day is pretty strict.
Just look at pic related. mosaic censorship is common practice over there.
>>67910407
Not strict at all compared to outright bans prison sentences.
I don't give a fuck what you think, as long as they're into it, who cares? Don't watch it if you don't like it, your morale is no argument
I've found the best way to handle problems is to ban them.
>>67910859
It's all relative then
>>67908138
>>67908536
>>67909190
>I believe in individual rights and personal responsibility only when it comes to things I like.
The girl has freedom of contract. She is free to privately show her body to anyone, as long as everyone is of legal age. Likewise, people of legal age are free to look at whatever they want. You aren't a sjw, are you? You can't take away people's agency and choice.
>>67911236
Your point?
Media of people having sex with censored genitals is still sexually explicit media.
>>67906818
>BAN WHAT I DONT LIKE
>DEGENERATE
>REEEEEEEEE
faggots like you are the same as SJW. you should proabably kill yourself
>>67911554
internet anonymity by nature is sexually explicit simply because it allows sexually explicit language.
>>67911690
This desu senpai
>>67910129
tired of sheeky forums stealing 4chan memes. I used to be a memeber there but then i thought why not just come to the real deal
>>67911766
sheeky forums is just a clone of 4chan. It's not a real forum it just scrapes the archive from here
>>67911840
what are you talking about i posted there for months
>>67911899
It's a mirror. Any post there goes to here and vice-versa. You can search this thread on sheeky and find every post with fake names given to each ID, and the word "4chan" replaced with "sheeky forums"
>>67911690
>Heroin is getting into the hands of kids?
>It's their choice why would you want to ban it.
>I have no sense of scale or relativity
When something is proven harmful and it gets into the hands of those that can't control themselves or are able to make an informed decision than it's the best to stop it from getting it into their hands.
>>67912092
do you think that the internet as a whole is as addictive as porn even without porn?
China follows this line, and honestly it's true. I find 4chan more addicting than porn by far
>>67906818
>should material 'x' be illegal?
No
>>67906818
No. If you cannot control yourself than YOU are the problem, not porn. Besides, porn lowers sexual aggression in males which is lacking in western males.
>>67912252
you0re so cucked m8
>>67909450
> Marmorstein
ALWAYS
>>67912190
Internet like TV before it is a tool. One can not get addicted to a tool. People get addicted to the stuff the tool does "good for them", which is mainly social media. Most people waste time on things they can do without it which is socializing. It's harmful but not enough to warrant ban but teaching people to not be retards, like with everything nowadays.
here's an interesting idea
what if jobs did brain scans for dopamine levels and addictions as part of screening?
sounds draconian but that alone would prevent more than just porn addiction
>>67912252
Pic is impressively related m8
>>67906818
Our prison system is already packed beyond it's capacity with non-violent offenders.
Adding another """""""""""""""""""""""illegal""""""""""""""""""""""" act to the laundry list of shit that can get you thrown in a penitentary would be insanity.
>>67912607
which is why it needs to be simply kept away from children so they never see it in the first place. I agree arresting all the users is a stupid idea, only producers and distributors
>>67906818
Porn has always been at the forefront of technology and is responsible for more than you may think
Banning it would be like killing Oppenheimer and Heisenberg when they were only infants
>>67912430
You're a projecting little prick who thinks their fickle opinions should be held up by force and imprisonment
>>67912692
>which is why it needs to be simply kept away from children so they never see it in the first place
this can't be done with our current level of technological sophistication
>>67912752
>>Tfw you realize this is why technology is inherently degenerate
read some Unabomber m8
it's always immoral people who push for technological progress a lot of the time, we'd probably be better off without most modern inventions
>>67906818
It shouldn't be illegal but it should be socially shunned more than it currently is.
>>67912430
>hheh cuck meme
>l33tspeekj
i'd wager that arguing for the imprisonment of your fellow countrymen for what they do in the privacy of their own home is the ultimate form of cuckoldry.
>>67912607
Just put a progressive fine on it.
Are you trying to tell me what i can and cannot watch? Fucking commies
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Creating black markets is always a bad idea, if anything an outright porn ban would make the darknet more popular, and instead of just pedos you'd have every horny teenager using it, and you'd have more people looking at cheezeypizza.
>>67912607
>those pewbs
>>67913110
this is why I think the right way to go is somehow preventing the total of all private internet access from being used by teens at all
>>67913005
>y-you don't think the government should use their guns to imprison your countrymen for looking at the wrong kind of media?
>you're a c-cuck
how subversive
>>67913211
Which is never going to happen.
>>67913114
>wanting to fuck a woman who grooms herself like a giant infant
to each his own i suppose
>>67912828
>we'd probably be better off without most modern inventions
You say this as you take full advantage of modern inventions.
Quit shit posting and get a fucking job.
>>67906818
>Should pornography be illegal?
No.
>Why or why not?
Freedom
>>67906818
Look at the GDP for those conservative se Asian countries
Plus porn's great, dude
This board is getting more religious and degenerate by the day
We're on a site where porn is constantly traded as a currency on several boards and even have multiple boards dedicated to it. And this thread is overwhelmingly in favor of banning it.
I love Trump but that doesn't mean we all have to be full on fucking right and evangelical tier.
Fuck you. Porn is fine.
>>67906818
Only broken girls do porn so who cares about the whores.
Society shouldn't glamorize it though.
>>67913684
that GDP has nothing to do with porn laws and everything to do with Islam and being the niggers of Asia.
Singapore and SK have porn bans and very high GDPs
No. Some of you are becoming worse than SJWs.
Is there no middle ground?
>>67906818
I'd ban it so I could put jews in jail.
Once they're locked up I'd make it legal again.
>>67913381
freedumb/10
>>67914311
The middle ground already existed in the 50s and to some extent the 80s. Since the internet we've been far past the middle ground.
>>67913360
Man I don't mind pubes but at least I'd expect her to trim that shit.
> hairy armpits too
Well, shit.
>>67906818
Have you seen the shit the japs do in their porn?
Are you kidding me?
>>67914391
It's fine the way it is. There is just enough of it.
>>67907681
This post is accurate and is the reason why it should be more highly regulated, if not made outright illegal (disregarding all of the legal reasons why this is impossible in the U.S.).
>>67907908
this post should be disregarded, this man does not know what he is talking about.
>>67908481
0/10 bait
>>67915408
but what I said is true
wouldn't you say that a lot of people here are desensitized to the information overload of talking to hundreds of strangers online to the point where they no longer enjoy or have the ability to talk to a small group of people in real life and pay attention for long periods of time?
>>67912607
This,OP is a fucking idiot.
>>67912607
>>67916236
So build more prisons. Create more jobs. Create incentives to invest, fund then with private sector investors.
>>67916602
no need for prisons for normal users, just revoke all internet service, or better yet just make jobs screen brains for any signs of addiction. That would solve the problem right on the spot
>>67906818
No. Society needs outlets for its basest desires and instincts. Just look at the Catholic Church.
>>67916866
That outlet used to be younger marriage.
That's what really has to be done
>>67915806
Honestly, no.
Your point is not entirely unreasonable, but I use 4chan (not everyday) and enjoy the random mass discussions, but I don't sperg out in real life.
I just don't believe there's any connection between going online and being socially awkward. I think that it's true that socially awkward people tend to spend more time online- but there's no causation between the two.
>>67914311
I think someone linked an evangelical group to /pol/ because I keep seeing more and more of these type of threads on here
>>67917034
no, /pol/ is just full of former /b/ tards who hate themselves and realize how much better their lives would have been without various forms of degeneracy
>>67906818
Damn you got a sauce on that?
>>67911899
>>67911766
You sad, sad child.
>>67917146
Failures will always be failures
Banning things wouldn't carve a path for them to success
>>67906818
Must be illegal.
Degenerate, jew, driving demographi to the ground...
>>67906818
http://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657
idc about banning it, but Jews and elite WASP's have used pornography and sexual liberation to control people. One example is when the IDF broadcasted porn in Palestinian areas that the were attacking. The CIA has also used porn in Portugal/Spain after the death of Salazar/Franco to stop communist revolutions.
>>67919148
>Trolling muslims
>Stopping commies
No wonder SJW's hate porn so much
>>67908408
Yea but outlawing something because a few retards can't control themselves is hardly a good idea
>>67919418
you are the perfect example of why 4chan is a subversive board, FAR more damaging than any other site we criticize.
commie feminist redditors are naive, 4channers are openly and unashamedly evil
>>67906818
If it keeps the sub-human trash occupied, and not breeding?
Hell yeah, keep it legal!
It's funny that people here claim to be conservative when the very format of the board, and of all internet culture in general including "old" internet culture is inherently a product of the 60s + counterculture
>>67917380
Been trying to find it for years, senpai. :(
The extreme cynicism and perversion of 4chan is literally the single thing that's WORSE than feminism. Because at least feminists have morals, though misguided
>>67919148
So what is the purpose of this? Why do they do this and how does this work on the people they do this to?
I'm seriously thinking that maybe it should be banned. I've thought that for awhile. It's affected lots of minds for the worst. Just look at how much it's posted all over 4chan.
>>67919994
4chan itself, and the entirety of the internet outside of digital books and educational stuff,
IS the weapon of subversion. It's to conversation exactly what porn is to sex.
the whole internet should be illegal outside of public places.
That said the damage is already done, it's too late for us. We can quit addiction but not forget the demystification of sex in childhood.
It's probably best for people like us to go celibate for life and let people like the Amish repopulate, as our ability to pair bond is already ruined.
>>67907681
I currently have more fun jacking off that fucking my girlfriend, but that's because she's gotten fat.
Ban porn? Bye /pol/. Have fun circle jerking in grandma's basement,
>>67906818
Law is not whatever you want it to be.
Law derives its validity from certain limitations which are informed by reality.
Freedom of speech is a conclusion of being unable to police thought.
All previous attempts at banning porn were dishonest and hypocritical. Porn is effectively accidentally legal because banning it depends on "men not laws" and our system is ruled by "laws not men."
>>67920476
you're right but only because technology increases lawlessness and the evils of human nature inherently.
only a system that discourages technological progress from the masses is capable of truly being safe from dangers like porn.
porn should be limited to the stuff you see on /s/
no more sex cuck porn desu
>>67920382
>he doesn't like the extra cushion for the pushen
What are you, a fucking faggot?
>>67920769
>no more sex cuck porn desu
If there is no more cuck porn then what the hell are anons going to shitpost with? It's anons go to shitposting tactics it seems. And their favorite porn.
Ban it, its part of making men into manchilds we see today.
