/POL/ BLOWN THE FUCK OUT ONCE AGAIN
CAN THEY EVEN RECOVER?
Debate me on this, I dare you, you'll lose.
Good reason to keep them out.
>>67892158
Americans conquested the native indians for their land, indiands lost. The end
Just like you britbongs tried to conquest the whole world with your british empire, only difference is you failed.
You proved the point dumbshit b8
>>67892158
>>67892158
if it was bad the first time how can it be good this time?
lefties can't make their minds up
>>67892158
As a federally recognized native, I think Trump is absolutely right.
>>67892158
Should have never made deals with the immigrants. What happened to the indians is a sad warning of what will happen to Americans if you open the floodgates.
Ohlookitsthisthreadagain.xls
>>67892365
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>>67892158
We weren't immigrants, we were invaders and we won this land by right of conquest.
Get fucked.
>>67892158
>>67892158
They know because when they came over from Asia they genocided the original inhabitants? That's some quality history keeping for savages.
>>67892158
It shouldn't have been done, I completely agree.
We can't undo it now, but we cn stop it from happening again.
>>67892306
The selling for beads thing is a misunderstanding. Some tribes pretended to be other tribes and "sold" the land of the tribe they impersonated. Of course, you can't really blame the settlers for thinking it was the actual tribe thy were talking to.
>>67892426
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The USA killed in their existence more people than Nazi Germany ever did. Why sholud there be a differnce between Trump and Clinton? The imperialistic killiing will continue
>>67892158
so, he's right? nothing to debate then
>>67892936
If it wasn't sold for beads it would have been sold for blood. They got off easy.
Right of conquest.
If you stick to this argument after understanding the europeans had right of conquest, you are basically admitting immigrants are engaging in conquest.
>>67893127
Calm down, nig.
>>67892158
>>67892158
We didn't immigrate, we conquered. Bit of a difference there mate.
C'mon, give us a harder one.
>>67892262
This (I'll allow you this distraction with out reminding you of the downfalls your own country is going through. Shit, I guess not)
What laws were there to stop European settlers immigrating into North America?
shit thread, fampai
>>67892426
I don't agree with OP but you're mischaracterizing his argument.
It's not about putting immigration into a broad category of good or bad.
It's saying it is hypocritical to demonize people who are here illegally when the USA was built in conquest. So the argument that being here illegally makes one immoral doesn't fly because what Americans did to get here was immoral itself.
>open borders destroyed native americans
>therefore we should have open borders, so they also destroy us
i don't get this logic
>>67892262
Don't leave out the fact that the Americans had the chance to make the whole world submit to their glory, but gave mercy.
>>67892158
easy, you are behind this
ANGLO BTFO'd
>>67894012
Jim webb please
>>67893437
Yes.
They are.
Why the fuck do you think we are hell bent on keeping our shit closed and not having open borders?
>Canada gets a pass for now, because Maple bro is always there. Watch the refugee # though...
>Peace Garden mate
>>67894013
Conquest and immigration are only the same thing if you're a Muslim. Try again.
>>67892983
Why is this so hypnotizing?
>>67894012
Rollin rollin roll
>>67892158
Also, redy 4 deb8 m8?
>liberals honestly believe that the white man came and killed all the Indians just because
>implying whites ever kill unprovoked
Indians drew first blood, white giant awoke, and absolutely destroyed the Indians. If you play nice with whites, things go great, but throughout history, people have gone full retard and decide to attack em, which always results in full on carnage and genocide when whites get pissed off and retaliate
but /pol/ SUPPORTS Trump. how is a pro Trump image pol btfo
t. pol
>>67894035
>implying we don't already own the parts of the world worth owning
seriously, at any time the USA can turn a country to glass in the blink of the eye, and nobody would be able to do anything about it
not to mention we have military bases in almost every single Western first-world country, and when we don't, we own them by being the supply for their munitions.
>>67892158
Well? Where ya go?
>>67892158
And how did an open border policy work out for the bead obsessed feather niggers?
>>67892158
Shit gets real when someone calls you out.
Anyway, I'm off to work.
Keep on failing.
MAGA!
>Our time had passed. We have our lands, our money, our cultural lives, but fades year by year
>We leave behind an idea, and move forward as a people
>>67892158
>civilized peoples came in and kicked the shit out of the savages
>so now we should let savages come in and kick our shit
What? This is retarded. This the most retarded thing.
And the Natives tried to fight and stop it but they were prehistoric savages so they lost. But we are civilized people, we can stop this.
>>67892158
>we immigrated and destroyed the native culture
>therefore you must let new immigrants destroy our culture
>>67892158
SHINY LITTLE BEADS
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>>67894013
Native Americans did not have an immigration system, and only some tribes had any laws whatsoever.
European colonists did not come here "illegally", as there wasn't any law stating they couldn't.
>>67894878
Half supported you, the other half didnt.
I fucking love this country, my ancestors loss, the smart ones adapted...
Like the electing we where split..
My family chose to support the colonys, then the Union after fact.
>Proud USA citizen
>>67894012
rollan Webb
>>67892158
What's there to debate? If anything, this is an argument for strong borders
>>67894012
rollin', rollin', rollin', though the streams are swollen, keep those doggies rollin'
>>67892158
The natives had the drugs when Europeans came over, not the settlers. The natives were slaughtering each other when Europeans came over, not the settlers.
Revisionist history doesn't work here in the way it does on Kikebook.
>>67894516
There has never been anything more true posted on /ppl
Leftist "people" in the US are in for a rude awakening
>>67892262
Britbong fucking rekt
>>67894012
aaa
>>67892158
That's right and all those honest injuns never took ANY drugs or killed each other. Rape never happened as a power play between warring tribes. I swear liberalism is poison
>>67894013
>It's saying it is hypocritical to demonize people who are here illegally when the USA was built in conquest. So the argument that being here illegally makes one immoral doesn't fly because what Americans did to get here was immoral itself.
But the thing is, history is not a series of perfectly made choices and idealistic goals. If we dont criticize what is currently happening because of what was done in the past, we are doomed to repeat pasts mistakes as well.
Saying that we have no right to say the sky is blue when our ancestors thoughts it was green is idiocy, as is trying to argue that we have no right to talk about immigrations negative effects when someone else had to suffer the negative effects of immigration by your ancestors.
Fucking leftist idiocy is thinking that we should all shut up and comform because of past sins.
>>67892158
Why bong why?
>>67894012
I'll take those trips now
>>67894013
>hypocritical
Obsession with hypocrisy is retarded, as it is based on even more retarded Kantian philosophy. Life is zero sum game, every living being is hypocritical per se as it care firs about itself. The whole obsession with universalism is retarded and selfdestructive.
>>67894012
IT'S HAPPENING
>>67894012
Trips please
>>67892158
Those guns in the picture are the ones they got by selling their lands to the "immigrants"
>>67896017
What would happen if Bernie was Trump's VP pick?
>>67894012
rollllllll
>>67894012
Jim webb for VP
>>67892365
BTFO
BTFO
BTFO
>>67896180
End of the world , i'm preaty sure those two are seals of hell if combined together it starts the apoclypse
>>67896294
ok killing myself
>>67892262
>implying libs don't know that
>implying they don't want it repeat with niggers and arabs
>>67892158
The 'Native Americans' themselves were Chinese foreigners who invaded the land and killed off the actual natives.
>>67892365
topkek, good one.
>>67896410
I know native americans are mongoloid, but who were these original natives?
>>67892936
There were a lot of those claimed "misunderstandings"
Some tribes tried to claim that they were merely borrowing the land to the buyers temporarily.
>>67896299
No wall, no legal immigration and no deporting.
They fought to the death and lost and are now almost extinct.
This proves we need strong border security, thanks OP
>>67896514
As I said, the settlers can hardly be blamed for the jewry of others.
>>67892158
So you better hurry up ahmed i heard you 8th wife is showing to much ankle
>>67894012
1. Jim The Beast Webb
2. Based Black Man Ben Carson
3. Rand Freedomlet Paul
>>67892158
>legal immigration
>colonial expansion
Liberals can't history, everyone knows that.
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>>67896699
IT'S WEBBENING
>they also brought alcohol.
>>67892228
FPBP
>>67892158
>immigration is now the same as conquest
Ok.
>>67892158
>>67892158
Last time a bunch of immigrants came mass genocide and rape occured. I bet you feel silly now!
>>67892158
>proving the point you're trying to argue against
:^)
well meme'd
>>67892158
so your point is that we should kill immigrants before they destroy current society
>>67892158
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>>67894012
Rolling
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Don't know why liberals are always so smug about this
>Our ancestors immigrated and destroyed Native American society
>Therefore, we should allow others to immigrate and destroy our society
>>67894013
how is the illegality of illegal immigration to an established nation even remotely related to the supposed immorality of the conquest of a continent that hasn't established a nation with immigration laws?
>>67896474
There were no humans on the Americas prior to them
>>67892158
Native American defense of their country was a disgrace, very low energy
That was a war that should have been won- Sad!
>>67896474
A few smattering of groups like the Ainu.
>>67897524
>Native American
>society
they were fucking stone age barbarians that raped and ritually murdered each other regularly until Europeans arrived.
Native Americans were uncivilized, stop it already.
>>67892158
So we should prevent it from happening again, right?
So, they're admitting we're right, and that if we don't act in full retaliation we'll end up like the Native Americans? Seriously, what is the goal here? 'Feel bad about what your ancestors did to Native Americans'? Why not learn from their mistakes and fight for your people? How the HELL is this an argument?
Indians sold all their land for muskets and firewater
>"le right if conquest you dumb natives got invaded so it's alright"
>/pol/ and european leaders openly admit that Arabs are invading Europe
>"i-its not the same!!! "
>>67892158
Dumb Tumblrposter
>>67897582
Conquerors take everything from conquered, and legality is just a set of rules the current ruler can enforce on their territory.
>>67892365
Native Americans killed most of the megafauna and good deal of fauna in North and South America.
>>67894012
I must get turtles for trump
>>67892158
Why do leftists think this is a good argument in their favour?
It's true. The Injuns were royally fucked by mass European migration.
So why do leftists use that point to support mass multiculti migration?
>>67892158
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>>67892365
You convinced me, anons, I am now an jeez, oh man.
>>67894012
Roll. Let's go Vince we got a country to make great again.
>>67892158
Democrats and Republicans killing each other in large numbers is the only way to rid this country of its political cancer.
>>67896299
>>67896699
Jim The Beast Webb confirmed
>>67894012
eolllll
>>67898386
There is some belief that reforestation in the Americas after the arrival of Europeans is believed to have greatly cooled the planet.
Fact: Indians are bad for the planet.
>>67892936
>The selling for beads thing is a misunderstanding. Some tribes pretended to be other tribes and "sold" the land of the tribe they impersonated.
The only "myth" is that the transactions weren't legal. Manhattan, as one example, was purchased twice.
http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/10/20/native-americans-didnt-sell-manhattan-for-24-of-beads/
>>67898238
yeah, this is stupid.
>>67892983
What the fuck is this meme about
>>67892158
So because of the sins of our fathers, we too should be genocided?
I'll have you know not a single person alive today was part of taking over Native American land
>>67898155
It is the same. The difference is we're not stone age savages, we can and should fight and stop it.
>>67894012
rolling. btw why not john mcafee of libertarian party VP guys? he's actually fucking perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FlZ_Q4USBk
I wasn't aware the native Americans had immigration laws.
>>67892158
>Native Americans got fucked because they let immigrants in unchecked
>We should let in immigrants unchecked, you nazi bigot!
>a stronger tribe shows up and beats lesser warring tribes
Why is this bad? If Native American tribes had the means to take the continent, they would have done the same thing. Do people really think the Natives were peaceful people that never fought over land or resources?
>>67897524
>>Our ancestors immigrated and destroyed Native American society
>but we're gonna keep living on the land anyway because who cares, right?
Liberals in a nutshell. 'Yeah taking natives land was bad', but at the end of the day all they are are doing the same shit as everyone else: living on 'stolen' land.
>mfw italian whose family came here in 1900s
>mfw people tell me MY people took the native's land
