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How can racism be real if races are not real?
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How can racism be real if races are not real?
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>>67881248
t. Bill Nye the Bachelor's in Civil Engineering Guy
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>>67881248
How can Bill Nye be real, if it's just a picture on an anime forum?
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>>67881248

tell that to someone who needs a bone marrow transplant
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>evidence of common sense
>evidence
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>>67881248
Because liberals have de jure ownership of the definitions of words and concepts, and can make exceptions to rules as they please. Disagree? Check your privilege.
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>>67881248

Isn't Nye more of an engineering/physics guy? Seems a bit weird for him to be weighing in on biology.
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Blacks are 100% human genetically.

All other rares mixed with various Neanderthals which has given them greater intellect (excluding abbos).
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>>67881248

Following the last words, this is applied also to animals, fucking vegans/buddhists.
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>we are all one species
There is no such thing as a species you fucking specist xenophobe!
Give reptiles the right to vote!
Give fish a voice!
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He's right though
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>>67881587
It's called the Reddit hypothesis. Saying you're a scientist or interested in science automatically makes political statements into hard unquestionable facts
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>>67881248
Bill Nye is a total fucking moron. Vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROe28Ma_tYM

There in fact ARE human races, we differ not only in skin color, but in muscle tissue, metabolism, IQ and much more. It's just not politically correct to talk about this among scientists.
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>>67881688
Neanderthals were also humans, any two organisms that can breed are of the same species. Saying "races don't exist" is bullshit though
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>>67881248
Race isn't real, but ethnic groups are
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>>67881248
>forensic anthropology
>race determination by skull
>dur there is no such thing as race dur
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>>67881248
HOL HOL HOL UP BILL NYE

SO YOU SAYN.......

....

WE?
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>>67881587
Nye and black science guy are both raving sjw. They have to do something since they arent real scientists.
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Civil engineers patch road holes.
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Pesky reality
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>>67882066
AYO HE SAYIN IT? PREEECH NIGGA PREECH I KNO HE SAYIN IT
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>>67881848
>we differ in IQ

That's not how it works. There are niggers out there with a higher IQ than you, so how can you use IQ to define race?
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>>67882162
delete this
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This is a typical Jew tactic. Tell people something simple is really really complicated and actually different than what logic demands.

MAN WINS WOMAN OF THE YEAR

VIOLENCE IS A RELIGION OF PEACE

THE JEWS DID NOTHING WRONG

Yall a bunch of fucking idiots
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Same species? What about Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Australoid?
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its bizarre to claim phenotypes(race) don't exist
its basically the same as flat earth
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>>67882194
>he was never taught the concept of median in middle school
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Remember when BIll Nye got destroyed on stage by a Mestizo and an African that hated science?

Good times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy7GOO7Y96Y
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Why do doctors ask on your medical forms if there's no such thing? Checkmate, engineers.
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Who the fuck does he think he is to speak on this issue?
He has a fucking bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering.
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>>67881962
>Race determined by skull

Tell me, what race does Nye belong to? That is one malformed potato
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>>67881248
Ask a medical doctor if there's a physiological difference between races and if that would effect his treatment of one patient over another. Guaranteed it'll be a very quiet yes.
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>>67881248
He will die when the time comes.

The weak perish, the strong survive.
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>>67882110
Truth. I remember seeing black science guy running his mouth about how it's impossible for aylamos to visit earth because space sooo biggg and time a species alive soo small. Kek what a shill turdbox.
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>>67881248
Ask the man with a bachelor in engineering what basic taxonomy is
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>>67881248
Colors are all the same as well. It's all just frequencies of light across one singular cline. Visible light itself is a part of a continuum of electromagnetism.

You see? There is NOTHING to be derived from categorizing the diverse phenomena of the universe. We are all one. We are the world. Dude weed. Ram Dass.
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>>67881248
The same way that jihad can be a real problem regardless of whether God is real.
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How can liberals push Evolution so hard yet completely deny the obvious implications to human biology? Do they honestly believe that humans just stopped evolving 200,000 years ago?
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>>67882194
>what's averages
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>>67881248
Any scientist who claims that subspecies, race, and breed do not mean the same thing is automatically discrediting themselves.
It's not splitting hairs when race is and continues to be a real issue.

The only wise move to make, if you don't want to be called racist, is to shut the fuck up and don't take a side.
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>>67882403
This video is hell
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>>67882194

AVERAGE
> AVERAGE
AVERAGE
> AVERAGE
AVERAGE
> AVERAGE
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>>67882515
he's inbred just like all Semitic speakers so of course he looks fucked up

But he still has a Caucasoid skull.
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>>67882480
>Who the fuck does he think he is to speak on this issue?
A meme.

Welcome to scientism.
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>>67882194
There are brown bears out there bigger than grizzly bears, do species no longer exist?
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>But my guy without a degree in any science said it wasn't real!
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>>67882013
Didn't get this
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Same reason atheism exists when God exists: stupidity.
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>>67881834
(You)
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>>67882595
you can't travel the speed of light unless your made of light, mate
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>>67881248
Just a reminder that Bill Nye only has a B.S. in mechanical engineering. He is first and foremost an actor.
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>>67883187
fallacy
you assumed what we know about the universe are universal truths
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>>67882110
>>67881587
The answer I got from a moderate athiest friend was that they aren't really qualified for shit, but possess a general knowledge of most scientific fields. A rocket scientist or some shit is proficient in their area of expertise, but doesn't know as much as them about most other stuff. This, along with personalities that appeal to fedoras, makes them good for educating. Glorified high school teachers essentially.

Doesn't make their bullshit claims true, though
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>>67881848

DUDE FREE WILL LMAO

God, I fucking hate modern philosophy.
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>>67883293
No, Nye is a mechanical engineer.
He's not even a scientist.

Black science man is indeed a scientist, but he needs to learn to stay in his lane and stop commenting on things he knows nothing about.
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>>67883293
>but possess a general knowledge field of most sciences
Kekles

I'd argue even that
A rocket scientist knows more chemistry and physics and actually applies it way more
They're like fucking people who read popular science books that has basically no math and pretend they understand shit

Their normie cult of personality is the fucking worst too
Literally promotes scientism and "science is so kewl" shit
I fucking hate them and the world would be better off if they never became anything
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it looks like bill is about to drown in a sea of niggerousness.
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>>67883489
>>67883293

will you stop commenting on things you know nothing about?
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>>67883489
>black science
He has done basically nothing in two decades other than get honorary mentions

Even the things he's written aren't noteworthy
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>>67882194
You faggot, read
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>>67881248
If we all are from one people that come from africa, then doesn't that mean that Finland should have the right to start an African conquest in order to return us our ancestral lands?

After all, by that theory, Finnish people are technically africans as well and we should have the same claim on those lands as they do.
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>>67883616
Wow sick burn dude ur so cool how about you come over and fuck my wife
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>>67883489

Agreed. He needs to cut out the euphoric shit too. Pic related.
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>>67881248
This is still a few steps less retarded than the whole "gender is a social construct !" affair.
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>>67883810
The only reason he does it is because his cult enables him to do dumb shit like that.
If anyone else did it, it would instantly be replied with a fedora image.
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>>67881248
The best thing about people like this is when they grid themselves against the cheese grater of reality.
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>>67881248

Nothing is real, everything is permitted.
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>he still believes in the out of africa theory
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then he won't mind bringing all those syrian refugees into israel right?
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>>67883844

He doesn't need any phony cult's blessing.
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>>67883740
oo, someone's upset
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>>67881339
first post is best post once again
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>>67883865
Laws are only a social construct.
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>>67881248
How Can Race Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
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>>67881248
white people always thinking people can be categorized by the color of their skin

prejudiced generalizing whiteys all the same
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>>67883911
I was going to comment on this in my first post but decided not to tbqh
German poster is right, the out of Africa theory has a ton of holes in it. The only reason it's still the 'default' theory is due to political reasons both from racial implications and older scientists getting very upset when 'major' theories are considered invalid.
Multiregional origin theory is equally valid now and should be taught alongside out of Africa.
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>>67881339
An AID's encrusted faggit.
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If humans developed differently physically over time, skin color for example. Why wouldn't they have also developed differently mentally? .... oh cause that's racist.
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>>67881248
He's right that biologocially speaking there is only one human race. That is, only one type of human and they can all produce fertile offspring, which is I think the defintion for race that biologists use.

However, it's laughable to think there isn't any differences in humans, race just isn't the proper word for it.

Even more importantly, just as there are biological differences in different, let's call them "types" of humans, there are many social and traditional differences in those types, more commonly called a culture.

Now that is the real deal breaker here. I'm sure many people don't mind living to a nice adapted black family that properly integrated into the society. Most people aren't inherently racist in the biological sense, but they are rightfully cautious about other cultures.

This is where homogenous communities become the preferred living standard for most people in the world. Not by merit of living with genetically similar people, but by living with IDEOLOGICALLY similar people. So in a sense, yes, racism doesn't really exist, what people call "racism" is more of a "culturalism".

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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>>67884233
You've cracked the code.
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>>67881248
Unfortunately, Bill Nye the Propaganda Guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>67883850
>whentheredpillhitsyou.jpg
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>He's right that biologocially speaking there is only one human race. That is, only one type of human and they can all produce fertile offspring, which is I think the defintion for race that biologists use.
Incorrect, there is no biological definition of race that you can pinpoint.
So he can't even say we're all the same race as we can't even agree on what a 'race' is.

Hell, we can't even agree on what a species is let alone a sub-species.
Typically we define species as able to produce fertile offspring... But.. there's animals that are completely different species that can produce fertile offspring.

Neanderthals and Homosapiens are separate species, but would we consider them such if Neanderthals were still alive? I don't think we would in the current political climate, honestly.
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>>67884233

I'm actually very curious as to how liberals respond to this.
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>>67884465
>Neanderthals and Homosapiens are separate species
subspecies***
sorry
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>>67883187
Sub light self replicating probes are the answer.

You could colonize the whole galaxy in a few million years.
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>>67881248
That is why there are differences in testosterone levels, twin-egg pairing, gestation periods, cranium shape etc?

The difference is so significant that anthropologists can tell the race of someone just by looking at their skulls.

If humans were classified using the same criteria as they do with other fauna, we would be classified as seperate species or sub species at the very least.
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>>67884465
Averages, senpai.

Just because there's some exception to the fertile offspring rule doesn't make it less true.
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>>67881248
It's always funny to see really smart people having the hubris to think that it translates into fields they truly don't grasp.
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He is to race what Daniel Dennett is to free will, in that he willfully ignores the truth in order to serve what he believes to be the greater good of humanity.

amirite?
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>>67884469
By putting their fingers in their ears and shouting "la la la"
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>>67884469
Easy.
They use their political power in the current leftist-dominated academia to censor any dissenting opinions or articles that disagree with their hivemind.
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>>67882403
So Bill Nye is just a retard comedy guy?

Does he also have a scientific career? If so how the fuck hasnt he been firied after this vid?
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>>67884469
Or how about the fact the in the top 200 fastest 100m sprint times, there is not a single white guy?

Is it because white people are oppressed, have inferior facilities or training? Or is it because there is a genetic difference? The same goes for long distance running like the 10,000m. Are the difference in slow/fast twich fibre muscles just a social construct? Why are the world's strongmen winners consistently white?

Every measureable contest and test proves this and most libruls will concede to this fact.

But what happens when we mention intelligence? IQ tests also consistently demonstrate that caucasions are smarter than black people. Our civilizations and achievements also reflect this fact. But libruls will always try and find an excuse for this. Cultural bias, oppression, discrimination etc...
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>>67881248
recommending the norwegian series hjernevasks episode on race, putting sjw against scientists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6uK00AvNo
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>>67881248

>we have to work

Nigs didn't get the memo
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>>67881688
>mixed with various Neanderthals
You chinless freaks are nowhere near H. Sapiens in terms of intellectual capability, we sent you extinct.
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>>67881895
It's hypothesised that human females can birth half chimpanzee babies.
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>>67884582
>can tell the race of someone just by looking at their skull
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>>67885267

I'm trying to imagine the liberal responses.

> Or how about the fact the in the top 200 fastest 100m sprint times, there is not a single white guy

Certain competitive sports are deeply ingrained in certain black cultures. Of course blacks dominate certain competitive sports.

> IQ tests also consistently demonstrate that caucasions are smarter than black people

IQ tests are written by white people. Of course white people are going to score higher.
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>>67884126
I am currently taking a class on anthropology and all I've heard from the professor is that out of Africa has all but been debunked. The only questions being raised now are whether we came from homo erect us or not and where neanderthal came from because there isn't a record of them ever being in africa.
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>>67885591
Ooga Booga?
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>>67885628
Why is it that Asians score higher than whites, then?
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>>67885564
>hypothesized
we probably have enough evidence to call it a theory
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when will they realize its not about colour, but the fact that black people are lower iq for example, or have the gene that promotes violent behaviour
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>>67885781
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>>67885859
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>>67884293
Culture is partially a product of race. You see the same patterns of behaviour across black cultures all across the world for example. Not saying there aren't differences or that culture is entirely dependent on genetics but it isn't something that randomly springs from the air independently of the people who create it. If you have one black family they'll probably be ok but if you have entire communities they will go the same way as in America, London, Jamaica etc - violent and workshy niggers who are loud and like to dance and have low IQs. People naturally identify more with people who are the same race and look like them, that is human nature.
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>>67885878
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>>67882403
Ive only seen picture of bill nye, didn't think his voice would sound like that
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>>67884596
You are both wrong, there is no rule that says different species cannot have fertile offspring.

That notion came from the political bullshit in anthropology to discredit the concept of human races .

The orginal definition: "Species are groups of actually or potentially interbreeding populations that are reproductively isolated from other such groups"

There are many animals of different species that can produce fertile offspring.

For example: Wolves, cayotes and jackals can all produce fertile offspring. Even Grisleys and Polar Bears can produce fertile offspring.

Furthermore with respect to humans, Neanderthals are considered an entirely seperate genus, yet we were able to interbreed.

Proven by the fact that everyone in the world except Sub-Saharan Africans and Aborigines have Neanderthal DNA.
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>>67881248
Bill who?
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>>67885749
I have no problems with believing that Japs score higher on IQ tests, but China has such a prominent history of cheating that I really doubt their scores are legitimate.
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>>67885955
>You are both wrong, there is no rule that says different species cannot have fertile offspring.
We know this, it's what we're debating.
It's assumed that this is used to determine what a species is, but it's not consistent ergo we have no valid definition of what a species is and therefore by the same argument as "races don't exist" now we have "species don't exist"
SJW logic has no place in science, you see
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>>67881248
An astute question Mario I ask myself very often.
The answer is liberal logic.
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>>67885859
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>>67886096

Asians legitimately have a higher score. It goes like this:

> Ashkenazi Jews
> regular Jews
> East Asians
> Caucasians
> Latinos
> Sandniggers
> regular niggers
> Australian niggers
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>>67886281
Debatable, most of the data used for cross-racial IQ studies are from the 70s/80s and the sample sizes for the non-black/non-white were incredibly tiny.
IIRC in the book you're referencing(I forgot the name of it,) the study he cites had like 4 Ashkenazi Jews total.
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>>67885904
This is a common misconception. Culture isn't a product of race in the sense that the same race will PRODUCE (take note of this) the same culture everywhere.

The reason it appears this way is because not even a 100 years ago, the world was a lot more territorial and nationalistic. Traveling was an unknown to 99% of the population anywhere. The further back you go, this always holds true.

The thing you are forgetting is, that many cultural traits of today that are seemingly a byproduct of race, are just inherited from parent to child over generations. Most blacks have ties the same root of culture. Most whites do that as well. 100-400 years isn't such a terribly long time for cultures to diverge, there are noticable differences of course, but culture changes slowly over time.

Of course with the advent of technology came the ability to effortless travel the world, allowing people to spread their culture everywhere. This makes it seemingly so that ie. blacks in america share traits with blacks in say the UK. If you follow their ancestry, you'll find that they propably have a cultural common ancestor not too long down their heritage.

Of course that part about people preferring their next of kin is absolutely true. The fear of the unknown is a very rational and useful ability that helped us survive through the aeons. But this brings upon another issues. If you have an integrated family inside a culture, putting them back into a different community (ie. a well behaved black family moving to a ghetto), will very likely influence their culture and values as well. Just as people like to stick to their own kind, they like to align their culture and values as well to those next of kin. This basically means that because they are also black, they are more likely to adopt some of that questionable behavior that other blacks express. The same would happen if you put a normal white suburb family into a trailer park, they'd slowly adapt. But none of that is genetic.
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>>67885564
Didn't stalin play with that idea?
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>>67886185
who is this melanin lacking jizzmop
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>>67886281
>regular Jews

Regular jews are dumb as fuck though

Average IQ for Sephardic/Mizrahi is 90-95 or even lower
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The White man!
There are races, like there are zebras and horses.
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>>67886281
>> regular Jews
Define "regular". Sephardics are 98, Mizrahis 90 or so and Ethiopians 68.
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>>67882194
What is a bell curve? How's the public education working out for you leafbrah?
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>>67886281
>regular jews
Sephardic/Mizrahi/Hasidic jews tend to score lower on IQ tests than Caucasians.

If by East Asians, you're referring to Koreans and Japanese, but not Chinese, I otherwise agree with that list.
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>>67886281
Regular Jews are sandnigger tier.
Ashkenazi Jews score similarly as whites in the northern states. There is nothing special about them, they are truks mixed with Caucasians to the point that they themselves became white. The only things they kept are their awful noses and dark colored curly strands of hair.
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There's an albino nigress in my town.

She's gorgeous, though. Wears what has to be a brunette wig, and has facial features like a Halle Berry type
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>>67885628
Yes, that is how it will go. I would counter with.
Athletics is also deeply ingrained in European culture, seeing as we invented it. That theory also implies that white people do not put the best they have in those competitions or that we are not committed enough or train hard enough.

Counter argument to IQ tests would be that even though IQ tests are written by white people, Asians score higher on average and there is a much larger cultural gap between them and american black poeple. If there was a cultural bias, whites would score higher.
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>>67882162
>literally proves nothing
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>>67886281
Regular jews should be lower than caucasians
>Source: I'm an ashkenazi
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>>67882194
IQ literally just shows how well you take the Itelligence Quotient test.
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>>67881895
So wolves are chihuahuas are the same species? Polar bears and grizzlies? Alert the fucking press, this guy has evidence to shatter the current understanding of biology.
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>>67886930
Designed to measure ability to recognize patterns and solve problems...
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>>67882217
>random man on anime image board claims mental superiority over his peers.

Sad little king of a sad little hill.
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>>67886930
High IQ correlates with high education degree, low criminality, high social status, healthy familly, etc... Low IQ correlate with the opposite of course.
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>>67887018
>Impyling intelligence is fixed.
>what is fluid intelligence
>what is crystallized intelligence

Go back to bed.
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>>67881448
Or a blood transfusion.
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There's really no such thing as species.

a cow is the same as a cat.

A whale is the same as a shrew

We are all equal.
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>>67887177
>Implying the main purpose of intelligence isn't to assess environment and solve problems
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>>67887179
>have O- blood type
>donate blood once
>they call me daily now
REEEEEEEEEEE
VAMPIRES FUCK OFF
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>>67886930

Nope. It's a real factor that is strongly associated with one's income, health, social status, average lifespan, criminal behavior, memory, etc.

It's no coincidence that Ashkenazi Jews tend to be extremely wealthy and well-connected people. Nor is it a coincidence that every country run or occupied by niggers is a complete hellhole.
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>>67887177
IQ tests discern fluid and crystallized, that's why autists can score high in IQ test while being incapable of tying their shoes.
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>>67886174

Apologies, my mistake, the quote you got from him I mistook as your own regarding "..only one human race..."

It does become very fuzzy at various stages, but impossible if a SJW is involved, because they will keep shifting the goalposts to maintain the political narrative which clouds the issue even further. When looking at such things one should be dispasionate and objective which is virtually impossible for leftwingers.
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>>67885689
>and where neanderthal came from because there isn't a record of them ever being in africa.
OI VEY DELETE THIS!
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>>67887177

> fluid intelligence
> crystallized intelligence
> literally psycho-babble pseudo-science
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>>67887106
But the test itself is inherently uneven. Speed for instance, is a factor when. Some peoples brains don't work you can as fast as others. Einstein was an example. It's original creation was to test for mental retardation in children. It also ignores Physical IQ and Creativity, acting as a scoreboard more than providing any actual applicable data.
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>>67887177

Are you triggered that you are stuck with your low intelligence all your life?
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We are all worthless atoms formed together

We are all basically the same as the trees, the air and the grass

Any distinction you make is inherently discriminatory and therefore problematic

It's time to stop perception-hate and stop trying to make cognitive distinctions between things so that you can operate on a daily basis because that's basically what hitler did when he killed all the jews you fucking racist

Anyway why does a fucking engineer/tv show host think he has more say on the issues of race and genetics than the man who discovered the double helix?
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>>67886930
>Itelligence
>Impyling
You're just mad that you scored low on an IQ test, aren't you? The fact that you mentioned fluid and crystallized intelligence already disproves your argument. You can't tamper with your fluid intelligence, it's already determined by your genetics.
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>>67887204
Species=/=race
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>>67887553
GDP correlates almost 1:1 with IQ. If IQ isn't an accurate predictor of intelligence why do you suppose that is?
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>>67881248
>no such thing as races
Affirmative action end when?

Any programs any law that treats people differently based on race is wrong .
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>>67887583

> doesn't provide any applicable data
> strongly correlated with income, health, criminality

Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>67887583
It's not meant to be perfect, and IQ scores are(don't stop reading here) honestly bullshit —you're completely right.
But they're bullshit in the same way that two hues of red can look almost identical but be separate.
If someone has an IQ of 70, there's no way around it — they're retarded.
This is why I prefer the 'slow', 'normal', 'gifted','genius' labeling rather than flat IQ values much like how I prefer red over 0xFF0000


also, Feynman reported had an IQ of 120-something if I remember correctly.
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Humans are 99.9% percent genetically similar. Keep in mind that we're 60% genetically similar to a banana, over 80% genetically similar to a mouse, and ~98% genetically similar to chimpanzees. Yes, the 0.1% does make a huge difference.
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>>67881248
However you define it, self-identified black people do stupid shit in droves and call it their culture. This happens consistently across the world. Either black culture is very conservative or something more deeply ingrained than culture is responsible.
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>race doesn't exist
>forensic scientists can ascertain race from a spoopy skelly
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>>67887704
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on that? something like a graph with the two superimposed.
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>>67885689
>all I've heard from the professor
kek do your own research my friend, Out of Africa is no more plausible.

A population of Homo, Ergaster or Erectus, came out of Africa, they where not human yet (and Erectus may very well have appeared in Asia at the same time Ergaster rose in Africa), a part of them went to Europe through Gibraltar (see Atapuerca site) and hominization probably took place there. They then split between Sapiens to the east and Neandertal to the north, some Sapiens coming back to Africa and other later mating with Neandertal at the end of an Ice Age, explaining why subsaharan Africans are the only human without a single drop of Neandertal DNA (although they may have mated with still in Africa populations of Ergaster or Erectus). Mixed Sapiens/Neandertal then spread to rest of the world, and voilà.
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>>67887674
137. But your ad hominem shows that you're like everyone else here. And I was bringing up liquid intelligence and crystallized intelligence because that anon seem to just take the concept of IQ at face value. But it doesn't matter. Nothing we discuss on this board is going to make any difference to each other.
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Anyone where disagree with the latitude and sunlight argument for skin and hair color? Given how near universal the attraction to blond women is, and the lack of European looking Eskimos, I suspect the real for European features is sexual selection. Anyone else think that?
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>>67881248
Are there different races of humans?
No.

Are there different breeds of humans, with differing physical and mental characteristics?
Yes.
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>>67888076
>Nothing we discuss on this board is going to make any difference to each other

>Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor
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>>67887749
> asking for sources
You must be new here. If I post sources you'll just attack the sources and will go around in circles. Will all end up wasting each others time. Seriously it's not that hard to Google, friend.
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>>67881339
He has a bachelor's in MECHANICAL not civil you illiterate dumb cunt
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>>67888160
Peter Frost does.

http://pages.globetrotter.net/peter_frost61z/European-skin-color.htm
http://pages.globetrotter.net/peter_frost61z/European-hair-and-eye-color.htm
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>>67881248
WE ARE ALL MAMMALS YOU SHTLORD!!
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>Be me
>Friend on kikebook posts OPs pic
>Point out that Bill Nye is aMechanical Engineer and not a Scientist who can make that kind of Claim.
>Friend is all like, "Oh yeah, well he made stuff for NASA...etc...We are all ONE race!
>Reply with "William Shockley would like a word with you
>Unfriended.png
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>>67882587
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosorbide_dinitrate/hydralazine
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>>67888160
>and the lack of European looking Eskimos,
fun fact note taught in your highschool curriculum:
Norse explorers were in the Americas 50 years before the Inuits were.
Inuits are not native to the climate in the same way that say, a swede is.
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>>67881248
Ken Ham was saying that before Bill.
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>>67888418
>note
not*
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>>67888174
>it's identifying nihilism
>Ignoring the context of my statement

I have a shit since of humor by the way. But associate me with whatever group you were implying if it makes you more comfortable. Are you really trying to appeal to optimism here?That would be a first I've seen on this board. But by all means take the the non cynical position.
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>>67888197

I was paraphrasing you, you stupid nigger. Not asking for sources.

You said:

> But the test itself is inherently uneven. Speed for instance, is a factor when. Some peoples brains don't work you can as fast as others. Einstein was an example. It's original creation was to test for mental retardation in children. It also ignores Physical IQ and Creativity, acting as a scoreboard more than providing any actual applicable data.

You claim that IQ tests provide no applicable data. This is a fucking lie, as IQ tests have successfully predicted applicants income, health, and criminality for decades now.
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>>67888418
Are Swedes really native to the climate though? I thought Indo-Europeans migrated to Europe? Aren't the Sami the "native" or first Swedes?

>>67888234
Thanks for the links!
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>>67888482
It's a famous pasta you made me think about, don't take it personnally.
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>>67888516
You are right. I miss spoke. I apologize for the poor phrasing of that last sentence.
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>>67888597
Fuck. I'm way too thin skinned to be on this board.
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>>67885977
>it's irrelevant to anything that matters
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>>67888771
Don't make the mistake of thinking people here are as intelligent and as willing to have a fair debate as you: state your point of view, spoonfeed your opponent, and keep in mind you're not writing for the guy you respond to but for the rare intelligent and open-minded Anon that may stumble across your post. When obvious retarded posts (as my pasta joke was) answer to you, just don't bother with them.
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>>67889150
Dawkins is just being nice
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>>67888234
>Among contemporary hunter-gatherers, the ratio of single men to single women is most unequal in "steppe-tundra" environments where almost all consumable biomass is in the form of highly mobile and spatially concentrated herbivores such as caribou, reindeer, or muskox. On the one hand, men die younger because of the distances they must cover in search of herds, with no alternate food sources. On the other, men are less polygynous because they bear almost the full cost of feeding their families in a habitat that offers women little opportunity for food gathering. With fewer men altogether and even fewer polygynous ones, women have to compete for a limited supply of potential husbands. They are thus under stronger sexual selection.

That author's theory on the competitiveness of steppe hunters and the dedication of males might also explain why polygamy seems conspicuously absent in European culture, but common around the world.
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Race, species.. who fucking cares? The truth is that we are not the same, and only a blind man can deny that.
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>>67888229
POO IN LOO
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>>67886388
A (Jewish) soviet scientist did. Afaik he tried to inject female chimps with human sperm and it failed, but he got shut down before trying the other way around.
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>>67887967
Sorry for the delay m8, had to take a shower.
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>>67888573
I don't know much about the Sami, sorry. 'Swede' might have been a bad choice on my part. I believe the Sami are native only(? and probably upper modern Sweden?) to Finland though.'

You have to also understand that the weather isn't the same as it is today. Until about 10,000 years ago we were in an ice age.
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>>67881248

>The race is about only skin color meme
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>>67886371
I can't say I agree. You are right in the sense that these cultures aren't that old, but you ignore that ultimately they have to have a source and that source is partially the material of people who actually make up that culture. I have no solid evidence but neither do you, it's all speculation and feel justified in thinking, say, black people and East Asians are fundamentally different genetically, or aboriginals and whites, or Eskimos and pygmies etc. As another anon has pointed out, the fastest white man in the world is only in the top 200 fastest people in the world, the rest of whom are all black. This is clearly genetic in nature.
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>>67888573
>Indo-Europeans migrated to Europe?
Indo Europeans are most likely native of Europe, either from Baltic shores or Pontic Steppes. Samis are from the finno-ugric people, and thhey most likely originated in northen China (hence the "Finland is Asian" meme).
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>>67889696
Yeah anyone with a brain knows this argument is about genetic groups (race) capacity for intellect.

>>67889939
Culture is just the short way of saying genetically driven group proclivities. Culture doesn't arise in vacuum.

Humans are animals (though we are often loathe to admit it) and thus much of our behavior is driven by these genetic proclivities, though they can be shaped towards a purpose that differs from the root behavior.

Do different breeds(what we can dog races) have different temperaments? Do some breeds of dog, being so perfectly genetically designed by the hand of man, exhibit some behaviors PURELY on instinct?

Genetics are a force greater than we would like to admit, even in human behavior.
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>>67888171
But wouldn't the term "race" be a synonym of "breed" in our case?
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>>67881895
What Ive heard is that the offspring of the two species has to be fertile for them to be of the same species. Lions and Tigers can produce Ligers, but since Ligers are sterile, Lions and Tigers are separate species. Same with Mules.
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>>67890720
But it's not consistent, there are separate species that can produce fertile offspring.
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>we all come from africa

what are neanderthals

we all come from africa, but some of us (them) come a lot fucking more from it.

some of us are homo sapiens sapiens, some of us are homo sapiens sapiens x homo neanderthalensis (science blogs have been blowing their wads over the crossbreeding angle recently, but none of them want to touch on the real consequences of that observation)

the DNA is fucking different. caucasians have a much higher incidence of infertility than African blacks for the same reason mules are usually sterile. we're crossbreeds, they aren't. on the bright side, we have have hybrid vigor - they don't.

sure sounds qualitatively fucking different to me
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>>67881248
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>>67890596
No. "Breed" is the accepted biological term for differing phenotypic groups within a specific species. Homo sapiens sapiens has multiple phenotypic groups, so "breed" by definition is the acceptable term.

"Race" on the other hand includes non-physical characteristics such as cultural phenomenon. It moves beyond a strict biological definition.
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>>67890720
>any two organisms that can breed are of the same species

Bullshit. Wolves and dogs are different species, but they can produce fertile offspring.
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>>67891370
I feel bad for Dawkins, he drops so many hints that races exist but if he makes any serious statement he'll immediately have to face the wrath that is the leftist academia.
Someone in his position should be able to make statements like that without having to be questioned by sociologists.
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>>67891474
>Wolves and dogs are different species,
negative
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>>67882917
Grizzly Bears are a subspecies of brown bear you gay baby
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>>67891474
channeling my inner nog today, meant to reply to >>67881895
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>>67881248
>along with the evidence of confirmation bias
also
>muh evolution
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>>67891514
See >>67885977
That's quite the "serious statement", although PC culture blocks him from saying it matters. But maybe that's what you were trying to say?
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>>67882403
those two insipid fucks, holy shit
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>>67891585
fine, black bear.
sorry for not being a bear expert, m8
>>67891686
>But maybe that's what you were trying to say?
pretty much, he shouldn't have to add that it doesn't matter when it obviously does

>>67891561
example of a fertile hybrid between two species, btw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefalo
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>>67883963
That's pretty funny though. He has hit-or-miss tweets, some are OK, some are cringy. He's just the public face of astrophysics, so he gets a lot of attention from faggots who "love astronomy" because "I love looking at the planets xDDD"
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>>67881248
The definition of species is: different species cant breed with eachother to produce a healthy offsprings.

Even if you take arabs and slavs, female descendant will be guaranteed to have female gonads cystsosis, which is pretty serious condition for reproduction.

Sure we soon could overcome species by the means of genetic engineering, but today race is a thing. And blood, family and nation will always be a thing.
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>>67892013
>The definition of species is: different species cant breed with eachother to produce a healthy offsprings.
see
>>67891838
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefalo
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https://wubio.wustl.edu/templeton

You guys should Read Alan Templeton's papers.
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>>67891838
>>67892113
and it's not only species that it's "violating" but it's not even the same genus between parents
we're inconsistent with this shit
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>>67891474
You're an idiot
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>>67881248
Fuck Bill Nye
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>racists can't into science
Surprise.
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>>67892201
>https://wubio.wustl.edu/templeton


ok, list some interesting ones
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It should have been obvious that Bill is a moron the minute he claimed that climate change is the reason why ISIS is.. well ISIS.
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>>67887106
tfw you scored a 127 on the Wechsler, dropped out of high school at 17, got arrested for computer misuse at 14, have 2 friends, and have an awful diet.
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>races dont exist its science hurrr durrr im a literal retard

only smart people can delude and rationalize such stupidity
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>>67892389
Templeton, A. R. 2013. Biological races in humans. Studies in History and Philosophy of Science Part C: Studies in History and Philosophy of Biological and Biomedical Sciences 44:262-271.

Templeton, A. R. 2010. Coherent and incoherent inference in phylogeography and human evolution. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 107:6376-6381.
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>>67892458
In a round about way. Most violence can be attributed to people wanting more livable land and resources. Climate change limits those things.
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>>67892616
Anecdotical evidences don't contradict statistics of course. How many high IQ /pol/acks are in your situation? Most of them I guess. But since you're intelligent you can get your life on the right tracks if you're willing to. Stay strong friend.
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>>67892113
> half century of breeding programs
> the whole program can breed about 30 per year

Yes, this is what different species are.

If beefalo can produce healthy offsprings with other beefalos, but cant with it`s ancestor-species, it is also a different species. So instead of making it 1 from 2, you made it 3.
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>>67885591
You have the brain pan of a stage coach tilter. kek
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>races dont exist theres no science hurrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>67892945
This is true of most speciation events. One species does not turn into a new species. You have an ancestral population diverging into two distinct species.
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>>67893057
DNA-Marker is not yet a race tho. Dont fall for this anglo trick.
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>>67892867
My life is on track. I dropped out of high school at 17 for a job lol. I don't focus on a social life because I view it as trivial at the moment. When I get in my mid-20s I will probably focus on finding a wife.
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>>67893057
Haplogroups arent races. Helps dinstinguish a Celt from a German or a Slav, but all of those are from the same Indo European ancestry.

Autosomal DNA is way more interesting.
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>im a fucking literal retard hurr durrr races dont exist


>>67893194
>>67893287

Not exactly but you can then deduce that enough seperate breeding creates differences in genetics and has indeed caused them
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Is the Algerian one considered white?

Algeria
Argentina
Australia
Belgium
Brazil
Cameroon
Croatia
England
France
Germany
Greece
Iran
Italy
Japan
Mexico
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Spain
Switzerland
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>>67884126

I was taught both, but that a single point of origin was more sensible than multiple at once. Why would the same species pop up in different regions independently? Its more logical that some africans migrated and mixed with other hominins, then thousands of years of geographical isolation accounts for differences among races.
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>>67893192
That`s darwinist and that`s false.

1. Cant you believe your own eyes on beefalo example, because of *muh evolution theory*?

2. Genes can be horizontally transfered with viruses.
And a mice with human braincells is much smarter.
So if a virus will transfer some code, that will allow mice to have humano brain and this mice will go develop it`s colonies on previously inaccessible territories and accumulate mutations, that will disallow it to procreate with usual mice - can it be considered a different species on a moment of gene transfer? Because nature schemes are inevitable. And if you dont interfere, the nature, it has one end.
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>>67893488
"White" isnt a race, it's an idiotic meme. Some of them may have white skin, but Berbers, Kabyles and Arabs (Algeria's peoples) are non-European Caucasians.
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>>67893372
> you can then deduce
If you have the raw data, including archeological, then you can. If you have only selected markers - you dont.

19 and early 20 century there was a big fashion for eugenics. So many nations are introduced to a variety of markers now. But you cant say, that they are the same.

Also there might be family markers, that are developed lately. So the same nation can have this marker and not.

In your public data we see only a couple of markers, that are declared national by scientists and we know how science works.
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>>67893746
You can observe allopatric speciation in nature
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>>67881834
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"Science Guy" conflating species with race.
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>>67894194
> yes, i cant believe my own eyes
Whatever.
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>>67894306
Avise, John C., DeEtte Walker, and Glenn C. Johns. "Speciation durations and Pleistocene effects on vertebrate phylogeography." Proceedings of the Royal Society of London B: Biological Sciences 265.1407 (1998): 1707-1712.
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>>67894159
That's not what I'm saying. If acknowledging that those markers exist and produce physical differences and assuming genetics is hereditary (obvious but for the sake of argument) you must then induce that given more and more time of intragroup breeding that races must come into existence

my argument is that if that graph is true and that genetics are heredetary then follows that races do exist
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>>67881248
>there is no race
>we are one species
>we are more alike than different

Shows how little he knows about what these words mean.
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>>67884469
>calls you racist
>tells you about that one guy he knows that is smart AND black
>institutionalized racism
>tests are biased against minorities
>cultural appropriation
>implying you have a small cock
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>>67881248
Because the biggest giveaway of race is skin pigmentation. Dumb fucking American.
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>>67894496
> my argument is that if that graph is true
Yes. If.

Race exist as underdeveloped species aside from trick-graphs.

Creole diseases are a whole big research topic.
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>We are one race
>We are all part of one species
Gee Bill, it's almost like races are subspecies and not species!
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