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>oldest intact civilization on the planet

>will be kicking and staying relevant long after other current powers have faded into distant memory

What's the secret to their success?
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?
Their lack of humanity. Im chink, i should know.
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>>67880229
True. Empathy only destroyed the old european empires and is destroying western nations today.
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they just dont give a shit

they have horrible ability to advance themselves because they lie and cheat each other always, but their lack of giving a shit about anything generally means they at least never regress and they never cuck themselves
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>>67880169
they are similar to rats, there is a reason their government imposed a restriction on the amount of kids a couple can have
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When a society reaches certain stages of development, priorities change, and empathy takes a dominant role.

When that happens, it is the beginning of the end.

Nothing lasts forever, its nature's recycling process.

China will rise, his preponderant role will last some years, but will eventually fall, shadowed by ___________. (insert new empire)
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The Boxer Rebellion is like the neet rebellion desu
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>>67880169
they're fucking ruthless.

when they want something done, theres no bullshit in there way. it takes millions of dollars in the us and canada to just TRY and get something done, but in the end it noramlly falls arpart. just look at canadas attempt at wind power; activist groups and government legislation wasted millions.

at one point when china was rebuilding shanghai they used half the worlds entire suply of cranes at the same time to build there skyscapers.

they dont give a fuck and are the ultimate redpilled race.
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization

kek, modern China has as much in common with with the Xia, Shang, and Western Zhou as the United States has with the Ancient Greeks and Romans.
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>>67880169
I'll take "What is the cultural revolution" for 500, Alex!
Also: They were barely intact before. They always were cheating, status whoring subhumans only capable of making crude knockoffs. No substance, only face. The time of their great inventions is long gone now.
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ultra-conservative traditions and culture.

Keep them. Don't ditch them. It's a legacy.
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Technocracy. And that since ancient times (with breaks).
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>>67880169

>intact civilization

Mao destroyed their traditional values and most of their physical cultural heritage in the cultural revolution, and replaced their civilization with a left wing cult created by Jews from Europe.
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>chinese civilizations
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>>67880657
...dude have you read our money, do you have the same ideals as me? Are you even American?

We are nova Roma brah...embrace it
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>>67880629
>at one point when china was rebuilding shanghai they used half the worlds entire suply of cranes at the same time to build there skyscapers.
>they dont give a fuck and are the ultimate redpilled race.

China is basically a modern version of the Gilded Age-era USA, complete with the same insane income inequality and shitty conditions for workers. But wages in China are staying low relative to the rest of the world, so you don't have massive numbers of immigrants coming into the country like the US did back in the day.
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>>67880169
Confucianism
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>>67880169
Stepping on their people
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?
Are you fucking serious? They built a wall..
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>>67880169
>will be kicking and staying relevant long after other current powers have faded into distant memory

Uh, no.

Have you seen what they've done to their environment? Everyone of them is being poisoned the minute they walk out of their houses.
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>>67880284
How? It's empathy that made Europe and America great
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>>67880169
Not giving a damn about what others think.
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>>67881054
The wall did not help, but they successfully assimilated Mongols.
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>>67881068
No, empathy killed Europe and the USA.
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>>67880169
Population boom x communism
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>>67880965
>wages in China are staying low relative to the rest of the world

i guess you could say that.. 20 years ago the working wage was 40 dollars a month and now its up to 600, but china is no longer the factory to the world. chinas pretty fucked to be honest, chemical manufacturing is already starting to move back to the US and textiles are being made in pakistan.

i predict this (as in their decline in the last 6 months) is only the begining of something much more dissasterous
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Playing the long game in everything, extreme xenophobia, and no morality to speak of.
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>>67880957
>We are nova Roma brah...embrace it

Not in the way that OP is implying, though. The whole "China is the world's oldest intact civilization" is just silly propaganda, kind of like a founding myth. Imagine if Americans went around unironically claiming that we're a 2,000 year old civilization because some of the buildings in our capital were inspired by the Romans and we use a similar writing system.
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>>67881209
chinaman gets it
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>>67880549
>
China will rise, his preponderant role will last some years, but will eventually fall, shadowed by ___________
INDIAN SUPERPOWER BY 2050 CONFIRMED
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>Clothes
western

>Uniforms
western

>Aviator glasses
western

>jet plane/helicopter/Assault rifle/submarine
invented by westerners

>Architecture
western
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>>67881209
Heard it from the horses mouth, /thread.
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>>67880965
>But wages in China are staying low relative to the rest of the world, so you don't have massive numbers of immigrants coming into the country like the US did back in the day.

Lel

the difference is that China is an old civilization with a historical racial make-up, America was built from, by and for foreigners.
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>>67881213
Amerifats are just envyous of proper nations.
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>>67880169
Comunism done right
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>>67881374
France is more communist than China desu.
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>>67881284
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/07/china-rise-fall-and-re-emergence-as-a-global-power/

>China’s dominant global position was challenged by the rise of British imperialism, which had adopted the advanced technological, navigational and market innovations of China and other Asian countries in order to bypass earlier stages in becoming a world power.

"Good artists copy. Great artists steal."
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the best way to defeat china is to cut them off from trade.

they lie and cheat, thats why they are good with international trade

if they are stuck trading among themselves, they take advantage of each other and get fucked

this is why making china the worlds factory was the stupidest shit America ever did
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Nothing is more important than family here. I think that's why they've stuck around so long.

It's true they don't give a fuck, but when it comes to their their family, they still do give a fuck.
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>>67881616
>the best way to defeat china is to cut them off from trade.
lel

China is Middle Land, always was. The world outside for them exists merely as barbaric territories outside not worth attention. They are by default introvert and self contained.
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>>67880169

>oldest intact civilization


USA is older if thats the case.
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They're the only civilization to prove that a powerful, successful civilization is sustainable without a free, happy population. The rest of the world simply refuses to come to terms with the depressing reality.
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>>67881727
You have to clear thought that chinese "family" != european Clan. Its location/origin based village patriarchy. Also, selling and exploiting your "family members" was a practice.
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>>67880169
A complete and total lack of empathy.

They're not really human, they are more like single celled organism than like humans.
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>>67881898
Chinks have more personal and economic freedom and a more positive outlook on the future than any european country
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>>67881134
How?
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization on the planet
>changed significantly from dynasty to dynasty
>intact civilization
The oldest intact civilization is San Marino by over a thousand years.
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?

Not being located in the middle of europe
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>>67880169
>China
>doing anything but getting rekt or colonized by international corporations
Лмao
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>>67881134
CORRECT EMPATHY is the problem. You can't feel sorry for a dog that you nursed back to health after being struck by a car who runs back into traffic the second time. It's not worth your empathy. Yet we continue to feel empathy for people who are their problems and give into this welfare state for them.
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>>67881948
this. china can call mudslimes savages and you guys cant even use pepper sprays
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?

Legal slavery, cheap mass production of almost everything what they sell all over the world.
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>>67881594
>chemical combustion powered weapons wouldn't have been invented without china

You dumb muthafucka, white people have been findin new ways to kill people for thousands of years and you have the audacity to believe we would just be satisfied with arrows, bolts and swords, get the fuck outta here.

Killing poofs is a racial past-time to us, even pussy whipped we are in SE/A and the middle east dropping tards like we reapin a wheat field.
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>>67881265
fucking aussies always getting me
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>>67881948
not exactly, but there is a lot of merit to the china model

they reward merit, not feelings, not connections. you get into good schools and good companies based purely on iq, and you get promoted based off of performance.

you ALWAYS know where you stand, and there's none of this runaround shit like in the west where you have to "network."

it's more stable, and probably only more miserable because they're coming out of communism still.

we have higher rates of depression and medication, and higher rates of autism, etc. it's kind of hard to argue that we're "Better off."

but more freedom? eh, I dunno man. it's not as bad as most people think and read, but freedom isn't the right word for it.

sure we're not free because if we walk down the street late at night, we'll get raped. that's not freedom.

but most chinese can't move out of the county they're born in. also not freedom.
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>>67882186
No. Gunpowder was discovered through alchemy for stupid chinese medicine or some shit. White people will just make better swords and armour until someone decides to look at chemicals.
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>>67881811
nah, you're fucking retarded , the ming where existing before even America was discovered .
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>>67882256
fuggen retorted post m8
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>>67882005
they've used the same language, had similar administrations, bureaucracy, philosophy, etc for nearly 3k years.

they changed because technology advances. did rome stop being rome when they built the aqueducts?

don't be dumb, dude.
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>>67882340
He`s just mad. its like telling Russian Empire, Soviet Union and modern Russia are different civilizations.

Or even better -Germany did not exist until 19th Century so germans have no civilization.
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>>67881938
>lack empathy
wait, who was it that let in tens of millions of muslims who run around raping children and setting off bombs without consequence?

that doesn't sound like china...
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1.3 billion chinese souls, I guess ?

:^)
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>>67882282
>until someone decides to look at chemicals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_thermal_weapons#Quicklime.2C_sulfur_and_smoke

You really think we didn't.
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>>67880169
Staying chinese.
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>>67880169
My opinion is that 1-2 centuries ago white people had the same mentality like they are now.
That people are just resources to get something done, to build up a nation.
There's no individualism in China. You're just a tool to be used, there is no "special snowflake thinking" there. That's why they still advance like hell.
If that's a good thing or not...who are we to judge?
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>>67880169
>taking their peasants for granted
>poisoning their own homeland, possibly beyond repair
>the most propped-up economy in history
>growth expectations still shrinking
>Xi now beginning to attack Li for survival
WELCOME TO THE RIDE, HAN SCUM
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>>67882508
chinese were making bombs in the 600s. they didn't make guns because they had crank-powered crossbows that could pierce armor.

also, their formations were massive. their armies were on the scale of 800k soldiers. what was a large european army at the time? 900, perhaps?
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>>67882282
European swords were made of steel forged in India.
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>>67882041
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>>67882689
u fukken wot m8
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>>67882256
>they reward merit
>you get into good schools and good companies based purely on iq
You mean they reward cheating. Cheating for the Chinese is not just rampant, it's culturally rooted. They believe that if you can cheat someone or something, that makes you the more clever one, and it's the victim's fault for being fooled. Credentials, certificates, and diplomas are forged, exam answers are bought and sold, even products are counterfeited. So yeah, maybe it's based on "merit", since the Chinese concept of "merit" is based on what you can get away with, not what you actually accomplish.

>there's none of this runaround shit like in the west where you have to "network."
If anything there's more of it. At least in Western countries they TRY to reduce or conceal the importance of family reputation when it comes to employment and professional advancement.
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>>67880169
>What is secret
Oppressing their people, keeping them down, limiting freedom, making them afraid to freely think, having a free market of paying slave labor virtually nothing increasing country profit. Their people are so badly beaten socially, that they seriously have no will left to fight, and just do what they are told.

That is just a small part of their success. I also think them not really engaging in wars has also helped them from other countries taking them over.
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>>67882256
>they reward merit, not feelings, not connections
Connections is the most important part in chinese culture, they even have special term for that. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>67880169
They've been the most powerful country in the world for nearly all of history. They exerted the most important influence in every century except one or two (when they were rekt by Euros).

Keys to their success are high population, relatively good standard of living historically (not in recent times), large amounts of territory and the fact they are endowed with nearly every useful resource. For years Europeans struggled to find anything they could trade with China because China already had everything it needed, while Chinese goods were highly valued in Europe, That changed with opium of course.
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>>67882751
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steel
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>>67880169
Discipline and little to no empathy
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>>67882623
>their armies were on the scale of 800k soldiers
>he thinks RotTK was historical documents
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>>67881068
No nigger, it's war
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>>67882799
I don't see anything in there about European swords being made with it.
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No Jews.
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>>67880169
>chink pilot wearing Aviators
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP APPROPRIATING MY CULTURE
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>>67882723
;^)
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>>67880169
wisdom
discipline
commitment
patience

I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.
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>>67882932
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword#Europe
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>>67882765
m8 I'm not sure what it's like in cuckland for you, but for me, my tests scores didn't even matter. being a nigger matters.

oh, you want a job? you better know someone. they don't even hide it here.
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>>67882623
>Warfare and Society in the Barbarian West 450-900
>pg.119 onwards
-200 Viking ships could carry 6000 men
-The Carolingian kingdom had to field a force to combat the Muslims to the south so around but possibly more than ~20,000
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>>67883050
>Wootz steel which is also known as Damascus steel was a unique and highly prized steel developed on the Indian subcontinent as early as the 5th century BC. Its properties were unique due to the special smelting and reworking of the steel creating networks of iron carbides described as a globular cementite in a matrix of pearlite. The use of Damascus steel in swords became extremely popular in the 16th and 17th centuries


???
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>>67880169
>60 years old
>oldest intact civilization

wut.
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>>67882623
Also I'd like a source on that 800k army in one formation or battle, its only fair since I provided mine
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>>67882878
it's based off of records of the war of the three kingdoms, wich had numbers of soldiers. cao cao had 800k in total, though he would only field 300k for campaigns.
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>>67883025
Manchira is buffer nation
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>>67883153
>Legends of wootz steel and Damascus swords aroused the curiosity of the European scientific community from the 17th to the 19th Century. The use of high carbon alloys was not known in Europe previously and thus the research into wootz steel played an important role in the development of modern English, French and Russian metallurgy.[20]
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>>67883131
that's still not very many. that's why the turks made it all the way to vienna twice.

the chinese made it all the way into anatolia TWICE with a force of 30k just to get HORSES. they destroyed every shitskin in their path, killing everyone over the course of 2 years, TWICE, just to get a few hundred horses.

the chinese were massive. I really think white people just don't understand the scale of what they were doing.
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>>67883234
>Manchira
Manchuria
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>>67883234
この場所で気持ち悪いです
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>>67883203
sorry, I don't have any source in particular. I'm arguing history from memory.

chinese were massive though. they repelled successive muslim invasions that had destroyed all of india and made it to vienna and catalonia like the muslims were a joke. they resisted the mongols for the majority of mongol history, even when the mongols had also managed to made it nearly to poland.

they dug a 1k mile canal. 1k fucking miles.

they did some shit, dude.
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>>67882285
China as we know it isn't even a century old and has always been somewhat turbulent.
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America exhausting and nuking Japan.
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>>67883604
literally the only difference between imperial china and current china is the head of the government, everything else works the same, the people have the same traditions, same religions, same language, etc...
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They don't even pretend to care about their own people, and managed to avoid getting whacked by cold war, so they're an economical power nowadays.
Military and international politics-wise they're not much though. Lots of soldiers, but shitty tech and no experience, and their trademark "neutrality" which is mostly lack of ambition.
Their biggest achievement in the following generation will be economical subjugation of africa, and that' it.
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>>67883368
>>67883576

From What I'm reading that many were never fielded at one time which is what I'm questioning.

>Medieval Chinese Warfare 300-900

But he is too lazy to provide a source so, I'll go with this.

Armies the ~40,000 strong were regularly fielded by Europeans, teutonburg forest, Catalaunian Plains and the Reconquista
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>>67883604
the government and economy is different, as is the government and economy of every other country on the planet compared to 100 years ago. maybe only america and britain's gov and economy remotely resemble what it had in 1916, on the entire planet.

on the other hand, the CIVILIZATION remains constant. don't be a fag.
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization on the planet

But this just isn't true.
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China took a very long pause during the communist era. By holding back, they built up a lot of steam (holds of labor, natural resources, development, etc.), and are now shooting out the gate.

Africa would do the same thing, if it wasn't filled with niggers.
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>China
>civilisation
lol, not since the Mongols wrecked their shit.
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>>67882256
>where you have to "network."
lol

Are you fucking serious? You've obviously never been to China.
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>>67882623
800k troops isn't handy. How are you going to manage food supplies, a city besieged by 20 k men is in as much trouble as a city besieged by 800k, if only because there's no way to feed 800k men, so they would start to fight each other for food.

Also, when you look at wars in total, the second punic war had around 600k casualties and each side involved around 700k troops, in smaller armies of course. This was 200 BC.
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization on the planet
In what way? They've been conquered, destroyed and rebuilt countless times. Even right now an illegitimate government is controlling China. Is it because they never changed the name of their country?
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>>67883919
its bullshit. china is like what would have happened if the germans won world war two, steam rolling over neighbors and claiming that they are all now germans and have always been germans.

the han chinese "ethnicity" has more ethnic diversity than all of europe
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>>67884008
He was pulling numbers out of his arse, that was total troops of a nation.

>total Roman army size at peak
>423,184
Legions of Rome, Stephen Dando-Collins, 2010, ISBN 9781849162302.
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>>67883788
Apparently, Christianity is surging there.
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>>67883887
one of the most famous battles was ChiBi, the conservative estimates place the forces at 240k, for one side. it was in 200 ad though, so desu no one knows, sources are fuzzy, they don't even know the location of the battle, exactly. he almost certainly had more that he didn't field, given that his opposing force was 100k, on less than 1/6 the land he had. they were garrisoning the north against the mongolians.

an earlier rebellion had surrendering soldiers numbering 300k

a force of 40k was a TINY army for the time
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>>67883887
one of the most famous battles was ChiBi, the conservative estimates place the forces at 240k, for one side. it was in 200 ad though, so desu no one knows, sources are fuzzy, they don't even know the location of the battle, exactly. he almost certainly had more that he didn't field, given that his opposing force was 100k, on less than 1/6 the land he had. they were garrisoning the north against the mongolians.

an earlier rebellion had surrendering soldiers numbering 300k

a force of 40k was a TINY army for the time in china
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>>67880169
China will carry the torch of civilizations once the fires of western nations will inevitably get snuffed out. For that they have my respect. They will even do something we never did - exterminate niggers and muslims once and for all.
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>>67884008
the punic wars lasted nearly a century. in any given DECADE a single fiefdom would have on the order of 100k or more troops.
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>>67880169
>intact civilization
old china was killed by mao
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization on the planet
>founded 1949

OH AM I LAFFIN

Return China to its rightful owners (Taiwan) and we can talk.
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>>67884229
wut. u serious m8?

they ahve the same language, literally.

and it IS the same people. they killed and replaced the people who used to be there. the southern chinese provinces used to be thai in the 1200s, when teh chinese came in, and killed them, and the thai moved to thailand, and killed the khmer.

btw the han chinese vs cantonese have less genetic diversity than between germany and italy. the han emerged from a single basal group. whites are a mixture between r1a, r1b and middle eastern type aboriginal groups.
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>>67882933
>not asian jews
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>>67884238
"surging"
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization on the planet
>intact

Bitch, communism utterly destroyed that civilization. China has a European economic model, dresses in European clothes, uses European science.

Like the rest of the world, China is and will be a subeuropean culture forever.
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>>67884359
Yeah, I think the west has already cucked itself beyond repair, and plan to move to China and never return. Friends think I'm crazy. But the lights are going out in my lifetime. It is inevitable.
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>>67880169
>What's their secret
Being so irrelevant for most of their history that the numerous different "chinese" kingdoms, empires, and nations have all just collectively been called China
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>>67882256
Is this a troll post? You literally have no idea about Chinamen. They play the capitalism game harder than anyone, they always cut corners to maximise their own rewards.

Plus doing business on the continent you need to know who the right people to pay bribes to

if you do business in China you need to know the right people to pay bribes to
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>>67884611
and tyrone broke your anal virginity. civilization still exists, m8.
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>>67884251
>>67884283
I don't believe the numbers, for the same reason I don't believe that 1 million Persians were at themopylae.

It's not that the number is to vast but rather having that many soldiers would be even worse than having to few
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>>67880169
Sheer numbers. They have four times our country's population, but nearly a billion of them live below our definition of poverty
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>>67884651
I've already been m8. keep studying.

life is still a little harsh there sometimes, but the important things are there. you just can't go on facebook. it feels weird at first, but it's just because you're brainwashed. that stupid feeling of "Freedom" doesn't matter if a nigger blows your head off and rapes your wife.
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>>67880169
>Oldest intact civilization on the planet
>Mao pretty much destroyed the bulk of Chinese cultural heritage.
Ok.
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>>67884557
language doesnt make a people, genetics do. saying han chinese is a single ethnicity is like saying indian is a single ethnicity or european is a single ethnicity.

americans all speak english, and yet they are very clearly not the same ethnicity
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>>67884785
leave it to a czech to not read my post. they literally have less genetic diversity between themselves than between germany and italy. read it again you dickhead
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>>67884779
you don't know anything
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>>67884785
no we all hablo espanol here
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>>67881068
Empathy is what has consistently screwed over whites and their empires. We see savages and we attempt to tame them, and we attempt to bring the light of civilization to them, eventually causing the system to collapse. India, South America, Africa, and the Middle East — they all ended the same way, and it was costly; it's a cycle that repeats itself. Now, outside of the colonization era, we've invited them into our homes and are trying to do the same thing, trying to get them to assimilate, and we're bending over backwards to do it. But they won't. They never do. Imagine for a second the face of the world if the white colonial powers had taken a different route. If the British Empire, France, the US, and Spain had exterminated indigenous people outright rather than bring them fire. Tell me the world wouldn't be better, as a whole, for our race specifically. The only other race worth indulging is Asians, specifically east Asians, because they actually had a civilization worth mentioning prior to western contact.
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?
They have zero tolerance for feminists and SJWs.
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>>67884895
nice trivia but its not relevant
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>>67881063

And?

They don't give a fuck, human labor is a commodity to them. Oh no, 10 million people per year are dying to pollution. Ok, make the farmers fuck more, make 10 million more babies per year, problem solved.

They are the opposite end of the spectrum to the current western society. Things grind to a halt here when someones fee fees are hurt. Over there, well...they just grind over fee fees, and people, and houses. They don't give a fuck.

China is Age of Empires where humans are a resource along with stone, metal and wood. Some die? Make more.
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>>67880169
Brutal suppression of dissent
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>>67884957
he's right. mao destroyed a lot of their culture. but that doesn't mean civilization stopped.

I mean, the french revolution killed their entire noble class (lowering their iq, and driving the smart french into britain and germany,) and the french have had 6 republics, all failed, since then, and the amjority of its men of every generation killed off.

that doesn't mean western civilization was destroyed.
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>>67880169
I know the Chinese love to pretend that they are an ancient civilization, but that perspective only holds up if you adopt reasoning that likewise make American civilization ancient.

Civilizations are defined by epochs characterized by continuity of government, culture, etc. That makes China quite young. The honest to god truth is that America is one of the oldest civs on the planet.
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>>67885118
Mao tried to erase but it didn't work and since the 90's they have had a strong emphasis on their traditional culture.
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>>67885057
you said genetics make a civlization, but then tell me chinese genetics don't matter

I'm glad your country is a shithole

still. plz save europe from muslims( but stop talking, you idiot.)
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>>67880169

Define 'intact'
As in, relatively uncucked by Mongols?
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>>67880169
>Oldest civilization
>implying indus valley never existed
U wt m8
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>>67884611
>we wuz colonizers and shit WE INVENTED EVERYTHING
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>>67885328
lel
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>>67885199
take your own advice and read what i wrote, heres a link to help you
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2790583/
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>>67880169

Every last one of them is willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good of China, unlike the spoiled self-entitled brats of the west who believe they are special snow-flakes and never knew hardship or true pain.

That, and their total lack of empathy. But that's generally an Asian thing.

Oh yeah, and one last thing. They've killed a lot of people.
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>>67885379
Blaming Mao for all the dead of the great famine and the great leap forward is like blaming Hitler for all the dead of WW2.

China is a big country with lotsa people.
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>>67885328
>intact

Modern India has nothing to do with the Indus Valley civ.
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As pretty much everyone else with half a brain has said, they don't give a fuck.

They are red pilled up to the god damn eyes.

They care more about making themselves, their family and their kids rich and better off than they do about any of the empathy bullshit westerners do.

They put themselves and their country before silly feelings.

They do have a shit ton of problems though, huge structural societal problems that are probably gonna be bloody to work out, but no matter I still love it here.

It feels pretty good being married to a red pilled chink who when they are having a bad day, cheers themselves up with: "It could be worse, I could be black".
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilization on the planet
>been overthrown dozens of times
>currently run by the Communists, and ideology created by the Bank of England

There's nothing "intact" about a nation living on its knees. They are so cucked it's laughable.
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>>67885552
the worst thing is that I don't know if American posters are just baiting or just legit retarded.

At least I can just ignore Australian and Canadian posters.
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>>67885474
>is like blaming Hitler for all the dead of WW2
People do that, you know.
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>>67884557
Not the same writing by any stretch of the imagination or language.

Mongols left their mark, as did the Qing. Those are just two specific dynasties that changed the Chinese culture immensely.
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>>67880169
>no refugees
>no PC bullshit
>no liberals
>not afraid to throw you in jail the rest of your life
>not afraid to kill you
I'd think it'd be obvious, OP.
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>>67885631
yes and it's just as stupid
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>>67885480
In that case, Modern China doesn't have anything to do with the animist tribes that began in present-day China, either.

It's like people trying to acculumate all the years Native American people lived on the American continent and claiming "look, longest running civilization right here!" We'd laugh it off, because it's fucking retarded. Meanwhile, Chinks are essentially getting away with this meme.
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>>67885634
>Not the same writing by any stretch of the imagination or language.

The characters they use today are literally a direct evolution of the ancient characters they used in the time of Conan.
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>>67880169
>Reply
>China
>intact civilization
Nope.
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>>67884611
nothing wrong with admiring and adopting european culture us chinese love white people only I'm perplexed why you guys hate yourselfs so much
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>>67880169
>oldest intact civilzation on the planet.
that would be ous persians/iranians
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>>67885789
>In that case, Modern China doesn't have anything to do with the animist tribes that began in present-day China, either.

I guess that's fair.

>>67885789
>Meanwhile, Chinks are essentially getting away with this meme.
I never see chinks talking about Chinese culture, even FOB ones don't know shit about their own culture and history.
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>>67885876
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>>67886015
>Persians/Iranians
>once proud Zoroastrians who were destroyed by Arabs and converted to Islam and also racemixed with

Mahmood pls.
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>>67885876
A handful of radicals. That would be like taking Latin building blocks of our language and claiming Roman civilization is still dominant.
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They have a wall :^)
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>>67882920
This
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>>67886120
>destroyed by arabs
nice meme
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>>67880169
The secret is that whenever times were hard for the last 3000 years chinese leaders would cannibalise their own poor and have had 0 qualms about ethnic cleansing and population control. and that's why i like china, never went red just stayed china.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#China

in ancient times during famine and sieges same thing happened, kill your homeless and eat their corpses.
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>>67883186
he probably means Chinese Provinces
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>>67880169
>>oldest intact civilization on the planet
False,you have had as much continuity as greeks did,which is less since you were always an isolated,constantly warring with itself shithole

when faced with external threat,you always were defeated and crumbled
your luck was China's position made it hard to reach
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>>67886248
>if a language evolves, especially one based on concepts, it means it is not continuous

France has a greco-roman civilization largely influenced by Christianity.
China has a sino-chinese civilization largely influenced by china.


see the difference ?
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>>67881727

>Hong Kong flag
Shieeet, I thought Britbongs have given up on that shithole
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>>67881188
The social security system is already broken and currently the ones who can are jumping ship, my uncle runs a EB5 visa program and is already massively wealthy from nervous and rich chinks
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>>67883025


>And then Midway happened
>Muh empire 1945
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>>67880169
>Remember mongolia?
>Remember Colonialism?
>Remember Africa?
>Remember Japan?
>Remember 3 kingdoms
China likes to forget their past.
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>>67880169
>>What's the secret to their success?
Only a genuine Atlantean-era culture can survive the Jew. Everything newer goes literally to pieces. We 4600BC now.
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Tiny dicks stay out of the way and don't impede progress.
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>>67884407

Yeah dude, but most of these would be looters wearing scales. Rule of thumb: Only a quarter of the total army can fight, only a quarter of that can win
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>>67886652
Literally all media in China is about their past, they must have like 40 三国 TV shows currently running.
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>>67880169
They're conservatives the same way scientists are. They keep to their tradition and only change when they have to. Thus they make sure only the best ideas enter their society, thus they remain stable and powerful. This obviously can mean that from time to time they get fucked over, because someone else is much more innovative (West in the 19/20th century), but they are large enough to always successfully come back.
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>>67880169
Keeping most of the same culture since forever. Confucianism is one hell of an ideology
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Is this OK, right?

Qing Dynasty 1644–1912
Meng Dynasty1912–49
Kung Dynasty 1949–
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>>67882789
And guns, they suffered from the problem of regression in terms of firearm tech. They had done all the right iron and all the right raw resources but for centuries thier tech lagged behind euros. White people are damn good all the killing, I'll give the round eyes that.
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>>67880169

Perserverence
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>>67886748
Making up bullshit and saying he we made machineguns before the romans existed is not true history.
The chinese are making tons of fake historical claims and finds.
Then they twist the past to fit their own agenda.
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intellectual property theft and the magic combination of intelligence and lack of empathy provided by the han chinese
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>>67880169
homogenous society
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>>67886972
Thats cause the chinese have no concept of truth
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>>67884604
Underground 'house' churches allure getting bug but for the most part the govt. allows it because the teachings all there mainly about subservience and surrender. The ones that promote revolution are quickly purged and broken up by plants.
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>>67880169
>managed to cripple their country with a cheeky bit of opium

They're notoriously good at being shit. Even when they copy stuff from stolen blueprints they somehow find a way to make the finished product even worse.
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>>67887161
Christianity is legal in China, they have an official church; only Roman Catholicism is forbidden because the Pope is a foreign influence.
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>>67882768
yea, people ask how the pyramids were built. just looking at the fucking chinese. breed like rats and force everyone to do the same thing. big shit gets built overnight.
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>>67880169
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>>67887317
State approved churches are legal but there are many running services in members houses because they otherwise would not get approval.

Watch the rural areas in the coming years if things get rough, the government would have to focus its internal security forces to cities leaving religous fervor to grow unchecked.

Though it is entirely possible they run a big purge if it ever comes to that.
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Cucksess is not success.
For a country to stay alive for a long time it has to oppress the citizens.
Any other country falls, and that's a good thing. People are born and people die. Ideas change. If a lot of people are born in China and want to change they should be able to split the country in two, or elect their leaders, or change the name of the country etc.
Countries serve the people, not the other way around.
The only thing China gets right is that it doesn't import people from other countries, at least not on a large scale.
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>>67885876
Literary Chinese is a totally different language from modern Mandarin my friend. The characters are often identical but the grammar and meanings are not the same or even similar.
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>>67885124
i'm now adopting this stance

who pre-wwII culture intact here?
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>>67880549
Yeah but they have certain philosophies associated with their nationalism which can not even be disputed domestically because the ideals have been ingrained in their society for 1000's of years.

It will keep them from developing cuck syndrome.
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>>67881063
Adaptation to your living conditions is scary. Many biologists and neurologists sometimes state that the greatest survivial trait that humans have is not intelligence, but the willpower to adapt and stick along with unfavorable conditions.
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>>67887892
maybe china will look like early terra in WH40k
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>>67882689
P O O
O
O
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>>67887536
what the fuck is this
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As job automation proliferates and the Chinese that are enjoying their economy start to lose jobs, they will devour themselves.

China as it is is too big to really control itself, any province worth its salt is itching for an excuse to get out from under the thumb of Beijing. The government has been making an effort to build a sense of national pride, but it really doesn't seem to be working.

As their economy shrinks, and those that had decent lives begin to regress into shit, shit will go violent quick. Only then will people really come to see China for what it is, a Rat king.
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>>67882186
No you retarded aus. Before the russians, chinese alchemy was the leading movement of stumbling upon useful chemical substances and reactions.

It would be a stretch to say no one would have ever invented it, but we might be behind couple decades, if not centuries, on weapons technology.
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>>67885379

>oy vey remember the 100,00...no, 600,000 no 6 million
>errr, i mean 17 million goyim!

also counting leopold of belgiums kills when all he did was kill niggers.
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>>67887773
literary Chinese was always different from everyday spoken Chinese senpai, even 1000 years ago
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>>67887655
Great empires educate and civilize the world.
Alexander the great did
England did
Mongolia did (not Genghis)
Egypt did
Persia did
India did
Arabs sort've did at times
Romans did
Mayans did
Aztecs did
China tried and failed
Germany tried and failed
Ethopians tried and failed
Sudanese tried and failed
Japan tried and mostly failed
Russia did
The list goes on.
China is a selfish country who onyl think of themselves currently.
They are doomed to fail because they are not thinking globaly.
Anglos will reign supreme.
It has already been set in stone since before ww1
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>>67888117
I wonder how much of the Belgian cruelty was them going native or something deep inside them.
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China has some of the most based historical figures. Cao Cao is literally Trump.
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>>67888170
>Anglos will reign supreme
Maybe us but cucknada and Australia don't stand a chance.
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>>67888098
there's also the fact their fresh water and arable land are shrinking and they removed their population control so they may be seriously fucked
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>>67888270
why
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>>67888277
Enjoy the posion of socialism it is coming for the USA too.
Hillary will win.
It has been predetermined.
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when neo-US tries to get something done
>10 years of bitching and then another 10 doing that thing

when china wants to get something done:
>they fucking do it

Remember the US built the empire state building in under a year, the hoover dam, the highway system, and put a man on the moon, but ever since we put a man on the moon we stopped caring about actually getting shit done

it took like 10 fucking years after the twin towers fell to even come up with a design for a new tower and another 10 to build the 1WTC, it's gonna be another 10 to build the rest of the complex

we're lazy cucks
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>>67888277

Oi cunt, we'll use our shitposting power to worm our way to the top.
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>>67885480
Indus valley spreads all the way to present central India , there arev literally building built over ruins in Punjab .

These are the same people, after the rivers dried up in the west , they migrated to the east into central India where other river systems still existed .
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>>67888170
White people been killing each other since the ice melted over Europe up until WII.
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>>67888536
What revolution comes without bloodshed
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>All these white cucks ripping into Chinese culture
> 0 family values, accept niggers in their country
>Eating frozen burgers and pizzas jacked with sodium, preservatives, additives, etc.
>Not assassinating that power-hungry monkey you call your leader

Meanwhile I have this Chinese hunk from heaven telling me how much he loves me every night. Stay mad, impotent white boys. Maybe it's all that estrogen in your cucked tap water.
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>What's the secret to their success?

Assimilation.
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?
They BUILT WALL

MAGA
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>>67888348
>den outlines
Kashmir & Arunanchal Pradesh belongs to india
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>>67888630
Lol who cares you think you matter compaired to the elites of this world.
We don't matter, our race doesn't matter to them.
We are just different coloured rats to them.
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>>67888270
>tfw have meaning to get into the trees kingdoms
>tfw I'd probably need to clear an entire week to binge and rewatch
Fuck.
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>>67885480

Bullshit. There's a seal of the Hindu god Shiva from the Indus Valley civilisation, while most of the people in India are Hindus. India has the most Hindus in the world. All memes aside, Modern India is the successor of the Indus Valley civilisation.
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>>67888630
>All these white cucks ripping into Chinese culture.

You don't know who isn't or is a cuck.
> 0 family values, accept niggers in their country.
I'll give you the family values part but the nigger problem is starting to take care of itself.

>Eating frozen burgers and pizzas jacked with sodium, preservatives, additives, etc.
only the stereotypical fat fucks eat only that shit.

>Not assassinating that power-hungry monkey you call your leader.
It would backfire by allowing the left the crack down on freedoms in the name of fighting racism. Have some Fucking patience and wait for him to either leave office or do something really stupid.
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>>67888852
>Hindu god Shiva from the Indus Valley civilisation

Hinduism is not a codified religion like Islam and Christianity, the faith of literal neighbors in a town can be radically different yet both call themselves "Hindu".
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>>67880169
>Education is highly prioritised
>Being well disciplined
>Having a fuck ton of people
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>>67888994
its because they have way more deities then every other religion combined
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>>67885030
India was the richest region of the world until the Industrial Revolution
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>>67888730
So you let your wife have her fill of bull semen because 'muh elites'? Sure.
0 fucks given about your Soros meme, powerful men have controlled what we view to be the very limit of power since recorded history. Even chimps have a caste system. Your short-comings to the superior chinese man has nothing to do with powerful people.

But keep munchin on those maple crackers and rejecting a pure life.
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>>67881068
Capitalism did.
Empathy leads you to believe in wealth distribution, yet convincingly ignore that it has to be distributed by force. or maybe they know, but believe in the greater good non sense.
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>>67889065
why?
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>>67880169

>What's the secret to their success?

Being unsuccessful but lying about it.
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>>67889052
>you

Not Hindu.

It's like you have that huge story, it's different from location to location but the outline is kinda the same, lots of gods, lots of legends mixing with local locations and customs etc. Now pick a deity and worship it according to your local customs.

Anywhere else it wouldnt be a combined religion, more like local pseudo-religions, like in China where there's a whole bunch of domestic nature religions or however you wnat to call them.
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Why are you lying?
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>>67888701
>Kashmir & Arunanchal Pradesh belongs to india
Not according to the signs on every highway from Bangadesh to Nepal to Kashmir, donated by the People's Republic. Beware Chinese bearing gifts and free highways, anon. When commies say something is "free" they mean you pay for it by becoming theirs.
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>>67889266
the Indian flag is also on the sign
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>>67888982
True about the cuck thing, we're all acquaintances here, at least. But ya'll let Obama join the Sec. Counsel at the UN when it was unconstitutional and nobody cared. He'll never leave office, just leave one for a higher one. Now he can fuck up even more.

He's immune to stupid shit because he's a nigger, period. He can bomb hospitals and families with a whoops sorry while Trump gets lashed by the media for proposing the same.
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>>67889251
>Why are you lying?


Why would I be ?
90% of Chinese phone games are about the three kingdoms, last time I was there (last summer) they had a 3 Kingdoms, a Tang Dynasty, a late Qing and a civil war TV shows running concurrently.
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>>67889308
considering all the damage he's done to the middle east, pissed off the Chinese ,and told off our allies in Europe I doubt anyone's going to let him take part in anything
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>>67888994

I already know that. Even individual villages in India have their own unique gods that are not worshipped in any other part of India.
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>>67889308
The Counsel is fucking nothing. He just lined up a cozy job writing letters and being a nigger.
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>>67889071
I will eat my maple crackers as the world burns.
Maybe some day I will decide to do something, but who cares anymore.
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>>67888270
Cao Cao and Sima Yi are the fucking awesome. My favourite quote from Cao Cao is
>if musings of great philosophers and poets had any value, they'd been ruling the world for generations

Sima Yi was pure machiavellist even before Machiavelli's home country existed.
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>>67885957
>I'm perplexed why you guys hate yourselfs so much
Long, long story. It all started after World War II at the School of Frankfurt. Major brainwashing took place which told everyone to be a part of the counter-culture, and so, the West started going down hill from there.

So, those students that were influenced by the school of Frankfurt were teachers in the late 70s and 80s passed it onto their students, and so on.

Now you have 2 generations that have been brainwashed to hate themselves, and told to get rid of their culture and people all because of what happened in the colonial years, and that we must bow down to cultures that are less than us because they're so 'oppressed'

And here we are today, in 2016. Our own empathy is becoming our downfall.

Fucking.. No other civilisation has been like this in history. People's feelings and emotions are starting to get in the way of Human progress.

It's embarrassing.
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>>67889866
>Fucking.. No other civilisation has been like this in history. People's feelings and emotions are starting to get in the way of Human progress.


literally women at the end of the Roman empire
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>>67890071
what
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>>67889363
Why are you lying? Seriously, why?
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>>67880169
>nation of manlets
>everybody looks like a woman
>elevators and escalators eat people
>people die in the streets
Yeah no fuck China
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>>67890113
>he doesn't know about the rise of matriarchy in Rome coinciding with the massive influx of foreign tribes allowed to settler without counterpart
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>>67890193
What makes you say that I am lying ?
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>>67880169
>What's the secret to their success?

Breeding like vermin and getting on their knees before Genghis Khan.
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