Atheists are now unironically supporting the Satanic Temple
https://www.np.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/4a3xse/colorado_school_district_says_it_will_continue/
>>67865179
Atheism is satanic.
they support islam too, just to spite Christianity
atheism is cuckoldry
>>67865179
So weird they are anti-religion but yet support the very ideology born from Christianity. How do they not realize that the Satanic Temple - lack of belief in God and encouraging worldly pleasures is a Bible based group? It's purposely subversive.
atheists are why I identify as non-religious
I just don't want to be associated with any type of religion, including atheism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J6nU600HDU
>>67865221
>Atheism is satanic.
This.
Atheism is Satanism. Certain forms of Satanism believe you are your own god. You make all the rules. Everything is about your will and what you want. That's basically atheism in a nut shell.
im a christian and i agree with most of that
>technology will render God obsolete in your lifetime
Who else to thank but Satan?
>>67866030
iirc satan isn't even really a bad guy in the bible, is he?
he's made out to be far, far worse by modern books/media/etc
>>67865179
This is just one of the many Satanic themed moves I've seen recently being pushed by Atheistic groups. Lots of Satanic threads on rebbit.
Some of the comments:
>I think 'Hail Satan for The Satanic Temple' is the phrase you're looking for.
>Satan for the chuckles, Allah for the killing blow.
>Hail Satan! Man, what an awesome way to get back at these sanctimonious cunts!
Here is the coloring/activity book the Satanic Temple distributed to the children:
http://zeroequalstwo.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Activity_Book.pdf
They're not atheists, they're just anti-Christian.
Satanism, as in that self help book?
I can see why, all it talks about is indulging and becoming your own God, basically.
>>67866475
>>67866030
>>67865757
It's purposely subversive to support indulgent selfish behavior. It only exists as a response to be edgy against Christianity and destroy unity and morality.
>>67865179
>reddits atheism community
Literally 14 year olds
>>67865179
>r/atheism
>implying all atheists are that retarded
>reddit link
I'm a Christian and I'm saging this shit thread.
i dont understand why one worship the beast. if one believes in the devil surely they believe in god?
why not at least worship god? or at least make peace with him
>>67865179
a little
>>67865179
without a separation of church and state, you get to deal with all the religions. you don't get to pick and choose.
maybe there should be a separation between church and state. what is it the yeshua said? "render unto ceasar"?
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/04/35-founding-father-quotes-conservative-christians-will-hate/
>>67866773
I guess you're a dumbass because they're doing this all over the country http://thesatanictempledetroit.com/campaigns/national-campaigns/oklahoma-city-monument/
>>67865179
fucking degenerates. atheism truly bears nothing favorable for its followers.
>>67866348
This. It's not the same thing.
>>67865221
>>67865757
This.
>>67865179
The only difference between satanists and atheists is that the satanists know who they're serving.
>>67866831
educate yourself
>>67866897
How dumb are you? There is a separation of church and state here...that's how they're allowed to spread this autism.
>>67866897
It has nothing to do with separation.
You're intentionally subverting the morals of society. You're just another leftist LGBT group working to tear down American unity for far more powerful and devastating political agendas.
>>67865757
>You make all the rules. Everything is about your will and what you want. That's basically atheism in a nut shell.
No, atheism is just not believing in any gods.
What you're describing is narcissism. It's possible to be a religious narcissist or an atheist narcissist. Satanists are the former.
>>67865179
>not supporting freedom.
What are you, a commie?
>>67866030
>1. Compassion and empathy are more important than righteousness, take these poor refugees in, goyim
>2. Defy any authority and law in the name of what you believe is justice. Fighting fascism is just, goyim, go attack another political rally
>3. You can do anything to yourself, including cutting off your dick to pretend to be a woman or destroying your body for pleasure
>4. Everyone is allowed to say anything, but guess who is the loudest and owns all the media, goyim?
>5. Disregard millenia old warnings of religions and do what the Jewish science says
Etc etc etc
>>67867113
The jews?
No.... The king of the jews? Wait, that's christians. ....
Uhhh...Richard dawkins?
>>67865634
The Church of Satan does not believe in Satan. They were just being edgelords back in the 70s.
>>67866684
>christians
>united
>moral
>>67866831
God was a shit tier character that hates freedom.
Satan was cool as fuck and dindu nuffin.
if you use a computer or do programming or work with electricity you are already a satanist.
electricity is most likely a demon
>>67865179
No they don't and this thread is retarded.
The majority of atheists are just, "Yeah, religion is complete bullshit."
>>67866030
there is a distinct difference between "do as thou wilt" vs "do unto others..."
learn it
If you are unable to be a decent human being without following rules because God said so, seriously consider seeking mental care.
I have a simple code of treat others as you would like to be treated. It's literally that easy to not be a giant twat.
>>67867283
Belief in Satan is to purposely subvert.
>>67867248
Athiests are closer to communism than the Christians. Subverting the unity and morality of society. Tearing it down so globalist communist kikes can replace it with their system when the dust settles. It's an instrument to a larger movement and most of them don't see the forest for the trees.
>>67866831
Rebellion and pride.
>>67867242
>No, atheism is just not believing in any gods.
this is so fucking stupid. whenever atheist faggots are about to enter the fray politically speaking they always back down like cowardly fools saying "hurrdurr it's only lack of belief" trying to sound as apolitical as possible and acting like atheism doesn't has a history and a mindset that associates with other awful things that comes with it itself.
fact is, you can't build a decent life philosophy around atheism without lying to yourself because it's based around the lack of the most important ideal there is. it's not even a question of faith, it's just asinine fallacy in terms of thinking about the universe and its calling.
>>67867386
"but don't say bad things about Islam! They are being oppressed!"
>>67867386
>>67867359
>>67867352
Huge difference between being an Atheist and a purposely spiteful Satanist.
Disavow one group to belong to another.
>>67867405
>He thinks "do what thou wilt" is satanism
>He thinks "do what thou wilt" means "do whatever you want"
>>67866831
do you use the internet?
you already have a piece of the beast in you and worship it with every meme you post or watch or get excited about
>>67867521
>Athiests are closer to communism than the Christians. Subverting the unity and morality of society. Tearing it down so globalist communist kikes can replace it with their system when the dust settles. It's an instrument to a larger movement and most of them don't see the forest for the trees.
The truth is, Christianity is a false ideology. It's not strong enough to survive the modern age of information.
We need to adapt to defeat marxism. The widespread subversion of western society makes this fact obvious. We need to rally around a new, better ideology.
>>67866166
He's literally responsible for fucking us over and making us fall
>>67867829
And what do you propose, Athiest? Islam? Satanism?
Like OP said, you're giving up one group to belong to another. Shits fucking retarded and the very definition of subversive tactics.
>>67867829
you have it backwards
the "age of information" is the age of demons (which are basically identical to memes/propaganda - being influenced by false information is the same as being possessed). Limited tech and information was a good thing, it means fewer lies and smaller communites
>>67867829
>It's not strong enough to survive the modern age of information.
lying faggot. any religion was always around and doesn't simply vanish.
"Satanism" of the LaVey variety is really just a deliberately edgy protest faux-"religion" for athiests to scare church marms anyway.
Fereaking and geeking about them is playing into their fat hands.
>>67867835
>h-he made me eat the apple!
Just like Trump made nigs and cucks get violent? Fuck off.
Ain't nothing wrong with eating an apple. Not his fault that God enforces Kim Jong Un-tier punishment for harmless crimes.
>>67867829
>people abandon anti-marxist ideology to become communist
>wow this ideology didn't save us from marxism at all
>>67868081
Not literally forced, but he is the father of all lies.
>apple meme
>harmless crimes
>flag
>>67868081
It's not God's fault that he assigned those retards the easiest task of all time, yet they still failed it. They deserved everything that happened to them for being so stupid.
>>67868004
>And what do you propose, Athiest? Islam? Satanism?
Islam IS finding success in this environment, but it's awful.
I want an ideology rooted in western thought. I don't know what the answer is, but I think /pol/ is subconsciously developing one.
>>67868008
>which are basically identical to memes/propaganda
Yes, exactly. The new existence of widespread propaganda means we need a new ideology that is strong in that environment.
>>67868013
They don't vanish, but they recede. The meme's of christianity have been defeated. You can't even talk about it in public without being laughed at.
>>67868085
>people abandon anti-marxist ideology to become communist
If it had been able to save us from marxism, people would not have abandoned it in the first place.
It's a failed meme. We need something stronger.
>>67868676
>You can't even talk about it in public without being laughed at.
so? let the dumb faggots laugh. those are only the sheep controlled by the merchant and the atheist degenerates. and they don't know enough about religion in the first place.
>>67868814
>and they don't know enough about religion in the first place.
And they never will know enough about it. That's exactly the problem.
>>67868676
>If it had been able to save us from marxism, people would not have abandoned it in the first place.
People abandoned God in the first place too. Are we supposed to blame Him too?
>>67865179
Obviously.
Their idea is to make the idea of Christianity supported in the district's court distasteful or not given any support by allowing Satanism by the same rules as Christianity.
It's a "Separation of Church and State" play.
>>67865221
This
>>67868921
>People abandoned God in the first place too. Are we supposed to blame Him too?
If an idea is abandoned by everyone, it's failed as an ideology.
If a god is abandoned by everyone, it has failed as a god.
>>67867835
The greatest trick Satan ever pulled was convincing Mankind he doesn't exist.
>>67866030
Modern "Satanism" is a lot of popular philosophies with esoteric imagery with a lot of stupid judgements mixed in too.
For instance:
>One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone
>surrounded by tenets on how someone should act
And that's just a basic issue.
>>67869077
Shitty comparison as you're unnecessarily implying certain goals to both.
>>67869077
>If an idea is abandoned by everyone, it's failed as an ideology.
But you aren't explaining why. Are you saying cultural Marxism is a good ideology since it has grown so much recently? Can things not be objective?
>If a god is abandoned by everyone, it has failed as a god
Even though it was completely at the will of humans who had everything with God, and threw it all away for a lie, it God's fault. This is now begging the question even more. Tell us, what was God supposed do in the face of our betrayal to Him?
Theres no evidence to support the existence of the christian god
>>67869337
He made the comparison.
In the context of the discussion (saving the west from marxism), a god is just a placeholder for an ideology.
I have no use for a god concept that is not going to take hold in the populace.
>>67869017
lol why does this image exist, I have to be the only other person on /pol/ to get this. regarding the separation of church and state play, I'm in favour but I bet these cucks would balk at limiting church and state to stymie islamic law instead of christianity
Supporting the notion that all human beings have a right to support and practice any brand of harmless nuttery they choose is not actually the same thing as supporting all or any of said brands of nuttery.
>>67869457
There is tons of evidence for the resurrection of Christ and all skeptic theories always fall apart when trying to explain any of it away.
>>67869535
>lol why does this image exist, I have to be the only other person on /pol/ to get this
Please holy shit do tell me what it's referencing. I just thought it was funny. I have no idea what it is based on.
>regarding the separation of church and state play, I'm in favour but I bet these cucks would balk at limiting church and state to stymie islamic law instead of christianity
Some yes, some no.
>>67865179
>Unironically believing in middle-eastern religions, instead of your true heritage.
>Worshiping a dead kike on a stick.
C U C K
Also
>Reminder: Atheism is a Jewish controlled opposition.
>http://forward.com/news/194890/americas-top-atheist-aims-to-build-jewish-support/
>http://www.dailystormer.com/the-american-atheists-group-is-run-by-jew-david-silverman/
>>67869433
>But you aren't explaining why. Are you saying cultural Marxism is a good ideology since it has grown so much recently?
Yes. It's designed well to prey upon the weaknesses of Christianity (charity, mercy, etc). On top of that, it's atheistic and appeals to hard evidence. Since Christianity suffers from lack of evidence and it's easy to construct easily digestible arguments to show that Christianity is not factually true. ( 6000 year old earth, talking snakes, ressurections, miracles, etc etc.)
>Even though it was completely at the will of humans who had everything with God, and threw it all away for a lie, it God's fault. This is now begging the question even more. Tell us, what was God supposed do in the face of our betrayal to Him?
The god is defined by the idelolgy. Of course the fault falls on christians for constructing their ideology in a way that is weak to marxist appeals.
"God" could have manifested a better, more factually accurate bible. Or a stronger defense against false victims. Whatever.
There needs to be an evolution
>>67869718
Perhaps you'd be willing to share your irrefutable evidence?
Anybody who takes the Church of Satan seriously in the year 2016 needs to re-evaluate their life, Athiests or otherwise. LaVey was a shrewd businessman and otherwise a petulant child. The Church of Satan has developed into a pseudo-contrarian semi-religion that is really no more shocking that Catholicism except in the edgy ways it tries to stand out. The Church of Satan tries like hell to look like what people associate with 'Satanism' but under the window dressing it's just a bunch of narcissistic crap, Gardinian Wicca with blacklights, and couple valid self-help maxims in a sea of whiny self-importance.
>>67869814
>Unironically believing in middle-eastern religions, instead of your true heritage.
The state of reality isn't ethnically decided.
>Worshiping a dead kike on a stick.
Fuck Leprechaun, man. Just bashing shit he doesn't understand.
>>67870015
t. Bishop Shlomo Goldberg
Theistic Satanist here; most of us hate atheistic satanists or "hollywood" satanists like laveyans and the "satanic temple".
They're a bunch of fucking faggots who decided to glue edges onto their fedora. Fuck those degenerate assholes.
>>67870255
You're an idiot. Kill yourself.
>>67870255
>mantryingtoblendin.png
>>67869866
>cultural marxism appeals to hard evidence
wew
>and it's easy to construct easily digestible arguments
For the lowest common denominator, exactly the type to be attracted to cultural marxism.
>to show that Christianity is not factually true
These people are self-righteous, self-absorbed, "educated" college safe spaces earning sociology degrees. I will never take their internet drabble over the facts, studies, and opinions of actual biblical scholars, historians, and archaeologist, many of whom publish many book on their works, none of which these people have read.
>The god is defined by the idelolgy.
No brah, God is real.
>Of course the fault falls on christians for constructing their ideology in a way that is weak to marxist appeals
You mean invincible ignorance and/or willful antagonism?
>"God" could have manifested a better
So what would be "better"?
>more factually accurate bible.
It's already good in that department. Personal incredulity is the only thing between atheists and the Bible.
>Or a stronger defense against false victims
Christian apologists, theologians, and philosophers have made expert defenses over the centuries. They still cant be refuted.
>There needs to be an evolution
New age dreamer bullshit.
>>67865221
Atheism=TalmudicJudaism=Satanism.
>>67869900
>dump all the evidence supporting the resurrection of Jesus on an imageboard
I'll give you some books to start with instead.
The Resurrection of Jesus by Mike Licona
The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus by Gray Habermas
Defending the Resurrection by JP Holding
>>67869750
it's the old assed videogame adapted from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. Very strange old point and click, very dark and grim, no in an edgy way but genuinely depressing. it's usually not more than five bucks on steam
>>67870255
is that a millennium puzzle?
>>67866030
both The Satanic Temple and Church of Satan are in the end just re-branded Christianity, no wonder they are located in US. The whole culture of victimizing one self as a mean to pursuit their goal and get more media coverage is anti-satanic in all levels.
>>67870861
Fuck it, I'll add some more.
Jesus' Resurrection: Fact or Figment? by William Lane Craig
Jesus and the Eyewitnesses by Richard Bauckham
The Historical Figure of Jesus by E.P. Sanders
>>67870865
THANKS MAN
>>67870672
>No brah, God is real.
God is a word. What you mean by the word is given by the ideology that you believe.
Simply stating "God is real" doesn't mean anything.
>For the lowest common denominator,
i.e. just about everybody.
>These people are self-righteous, self-absorbed,...
Again: just about everybody
>You mean invincible ignorance and/or willful antagonism?
However you want to label it. Marxism has exploded, Christianity is shrinking.
>It's already good in that department. Personal incredulity is the only thing between atheists and the Bible.
>Christian apologists, theologians, and philosophers have made expert defenses over the centuries. They still cant be refuted.
You can hold to these beliefs... but the fact of the matter is, they're unconvincing. Everybody looks at these things and knows that it's at least partially bullshit.
>So what would be "better"?
>New age dreamer bullshit.
Christian thought has evolved before, it could evolve again. But in its current state, it's going to lose the ideological war.
>being unironically religious
>>67865221
In the eyes of religionists atheists are pretty much satanists
>Tfw atheistic satanists are more satanic than theistic satanists
>>67870861
Ok do you have anything I could read online?
Also please post as many books as you have.
>>67871431
>God is a word. What you mean by the word is given by the ideology that you believe.
No, it refers to a being, just like how other nouns or pronouns refer to actual things.
>Simply stating "God is real" doesn't mean anything.
Of course it doesn't mean anything deep like you want it to. It's just a statement.
>i.e. just about everybody.
Absolutely not. If you were right then there wouldn't be as much division as there is in society.
>However you want to label it. Marxism has exploded, Christianity is shrinking.
So the morality or objectivity of an idea or belief doesn't matter as long as you can appeal to common practice?
>but the fact of the matter is, they're unconvincing
I could easily convince myself the Earth is flat if I ignored all evidence to the contrary and said I wasn't convinced. It doesn't mean I'm right or that I gave the evidence and arguments a fair chance. I was an atheist myself before I did so.
>Christian thought has evolved before
I hope you're not referring to the Reformation or Gnostic heresies. The only positive way I see how Christianity "evolved" was cultural appropriation and reclamation of pagan ceremonies and customs. Evolution for the sake of evolution is cancer. The truth is the only thing that matters.
>But in its current state, it's going to lose the ideological war.
If God wills it, but the truth will never change.
>>67871493
>unironically being a leaf
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>>67872374
Anything by unbiased non-religious-scholarly historians that support the Bible?
>>67872426
I might as well give you some audio/visual Christian apologetic channels. One is some young guy who is really good, other one does "Draw my life" style doodles of excerpts from the book and radio sermons/chats of C.S. Lewis. You should also read all of his books too.
https://www.youtube.com/user/InspiringPhilosophy/
https://www.youtube.com/user/CSLewisDoodle/
Satanists are athiests though, it's basically meme magic and rejecting any authority of any deities without specifically claiming they do or don't exist.
>>67872631
Apologetics aren't evidence, there's no real evidence Jesus did or didn't exist. No one can really say for sure either way.
If you believe in him it's due to faith which shouldn't be an issue for a religious person anyway. I don't understand why religious people try to create fanciful and completely unverifiable stories of how some scientific or historical event proves them right. It's pointless as religions are based on faith not careful study of evidence.
>>67872624
I've never heard of a scholar that supported the Bible and was still atheist famalam. There are a few atheist philosophers that criticize figures like Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens on bad arguments they make.
>>67872335
>No, it refers to a being, just like how other nouns or pronouns refer to actual things.
The problem is that because god doesn't present himself in the natural (real) world, everybody has a different idea of what god is. So that when you say to somebody "God exists" you're asking me to guess, among a huge range of possible concepts, which one you're referring to.
The identity of the one you're referring to depends on the particulars ideology you believe in.
>Of course it doesn't mean anything deep like you want it to. It's just a statement.
But other such statements of facts have a clear meaning. To use your example: "The earth is spherical" has implications about observations that i can expect to see. The statement carries a great deal of information, even though it's just a mundane statement of fact.
The statement "God exists", doesn't really carry any information on its own.
>Absolutely not. If you were right then there wouldn't be as much division as there is in society.
Things don't happen very quickly on the global societal scale. We're in a period of transition, but the trend is clear: Christianity is failing.
>as long as you can appeal to common practice?
No I'm saying the opposite. I want to have a new idology that has good morals, so that we can overtake the (bad) marxist ideology that is spreading very well. It's a meme war. And we want the ideology that promotes a stable, moral society to win.
>I could easily convince myself the Earth is flat if I ignored all evidence to the contrary
I don't want to get into an argument about whether christianity is factually true. I believe it's not, and I'm confident I can reduce any of their philosophical arguments to an arbitrary choice on a logical premise.
God has never spoken to me, so I'm not going to be convinced to actually believe in it as a physical person.
>>67873220
>Apologetics aren't evidence
They literally source it. In the very rare case evidence is not present (philosophy), logic and reaon isn't something to disregard.
>there's no real evidence Jesus did or didn't exist
That is a laughable assertion and the overwhelming majority scholars throw it in the trash.
>No one can really say for sure either way.
It can easily be said one way, because there are even secular sources.
>If you believe in him it's due to faith which shouldn't be an issue for a religious person anyway.
Interpreting faith as only blind faith is just a meme. Faith is a confidence in the truth kindled by a response from God in your life.
>To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.
It's like trying to tell somebody with no eyes what light is.
>It's pointless as religions are based on faith not careful study of evidence.
If you're that scared of being wrong so as to dismiss even the possibility of the evidence adding up, it's all the more reason to look at these scholars and show how they're wrong. Simply ignoring it doesn't do that.
I'm actually not surprised by this even a little.
>>67865713
Fair enough, at least your thinking for yourself.
>>67865179
LaVeyan Satanism is basically aggressive humanism and satanism in general is pretty red pilled.
>Lucifer was the first to rebel against the Jew God
FALLEN ANGELS DEATH SQUADS
>>67873253
Just hard to believe what a religious scholar writes and take it as fact when that person has an obvious bias
>>67873936
Lucifer's "sin" was that he refused to bow down before man when God commanded him to.
>>67865179
>regular Jew God is so plebe
>need an alternative
>muh ebil Jewish demigod Satan
you had one job, faggots
I'm assuming ya'll never read the Satanic Bible
>>67874162
Lucifer convinced Man to eat from the Red-Pill Tree in order to know good from evil and stop being ignorant.
He would've convinced Man to eat from the Tree of Life too but they got expelled from the garden.
>And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
>>67865179
The political activities of the Satanic Temple are best described as anti-religious trolling. Anytime some religious group exerts a right, the Satanic Temple exerts that same right in as aggressive and blatant way as possible while telling them to "fucking deal with it."
Sometimes it's pretty fucking funny.
>>67867033
I do not say "there is no god", I simply say "what does it matter to me?"
>>67874357
Keep posting brah. It's good stuff :D
>>67874425
Here is the true face of Yahweh - the Ancient Hebrew God of Blood and War.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/brutal.htm
>>67865221
actually, all Christians are pedophiles
>>67873406
>The identity of the one you're referring to depends on the particulars ideology you believe in.
I'm not mentioning ideologies, but the one true God that has always existed. I'm referring to a being, not an idea or even the "god" of an idea. That's what you're confused about.
>The statement "God exists", doesn't really carry any information on its own.
Sure it does. God is a being that is infinite, omnipotent, and yet personal. That is who God is and that is your information, but stating the world is round is more of a description than stating it exists. It's not a good comparison.
>Things don't happen very quickly on the global societal scale
Communism died in less than a century in all the nations it first took root in. Christianity has only been struggling as long, and still strong. Compared to other ideologies in history, Christianity is the strongest.
>I want to have a new idology that has good morals, so that we can overtake the (bad) marxist ideology that is spreading very well.
So why not encourage re-strengthening of the Christian faith?
>It's a meme war.
wat
>so I'm not going to be convinced to actually believe in it as a physical person
Well God isn't a literal physical person, so you're at least right there. I'll pray for you though.
>>67873989
If they're a scholar at all, they will cite evidence and/or facts. If you're suspicious, look at their reputation in the field and always check evidence they do cite. I'm confident the scholarly community would have run them out long ago if they were frauds.
>>67874521
Sorry about the thumb, I was on the bus.
Does nobody here know the difference between atheism and agnosticism?
>Cain (the farmer) gives the fruits of the earth to god as an offering
>Abel (as a shepherd) makes a blood offering from the blood of his animals
You know which one the blood god preferred.
And that is why Cain killed his brother. To please God with the perfect blood sacrifice.
>>67868353
>They deserved everything that happened to them for being so stupid.
But should the children be punished for their parent's mistakes?
>>67874749
>citing Dante's Inferno as a serious theological description of hell
>>67865179
TST is atheistic, so... It makes sense.
>>67874757
From my understanding agnostism is when you just admit you don't know and are open to whatever presents itself as valid, while atheism is just a general lack of a belief.
>>67865634
TST doesn't believe in Satan you fucking sperg.
>>67874788
No, but the children make the same mistakes themselves anyways.
>>67873658
>It can easily be said one way, because there are even secular sources.
There are none, only Josephus supposedly mentions him and it appears to be a very poor forgery inserted into his writing.
Everything else is vague speculation by people who lived a century or more after Jesus supposedly died. There's nothing from the time period he was supposed to be around. Again I don't see how this is an issue for christians, I'm not saying I know for sure he didn't exist, there should be many other reasons to have faith that the bible is accurate.
So why invest so much time making dubious claims you have secular proof he existed?
>>67866977
But believing in fairy tales does?
Satanism is manly as fuck.
>>67869234
The tenets, summed up, say "don't fuck with people, especially if you don't want to be fucked with". How in God's name could anyone have an issue with that?>>67870255
>>67870255
"Theistic Satanist" eh? So you're literally as bad as a Muslim of Christian. How can you call The Satanic Temple edgy when you're literally admitting to believing in Christianity?
>>67875164
Because it's "degenerative" because you can't make it a meme.
Welcome to /pol/
>>67874942
>but the children make the same mistakes themselves anyways.
they don't, they're punished the second they're born.
>>67874326
Meme magic from a 70's cult. TST or bust.
>>67874999
>There are none, only Josephus supposedly mentions him and it appears to be a very poor forgery inserted into his writing.
You're talking about the interpolated quote where is says he is the Christ. Everyone knows about that, but a recording of his writings were found in Arabic which conveys the same statement, without that previous admission.
You're also forgetting Tacitus acknowledged Jesus in his Annals.
There is tons of exteral evidence for the existence of Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIdCRanZZyw
>>67875164
SATANISM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE.
I'm an atheist and I support christianity
#notallatheists
>>67874699
>Sure it does. God is a being that is infinite, omnipotent, and yet personal
But this still says nothing about anything that I will experience in my life ever. Whether god is an infinite, omnipotent personal being or a finite impotent personal being makes no difference. These distinctions only tell me about YOU and what you think. They don't tell me about the universe.
Here's another example: "Atoms exist." This describes a property of the universe. Huge amount of information can be drawn from that statement.
If god were an important part of this universe, the statement of his existence should carry some important implication about it. It doesn't. I can choose to believe it, or not, and it would not affect me one bit.
>Communism died in less than a century in all the nations it first took root in.
It's like a particularly aggressive virus. Leaving the host destroyed.
>So why not encourage re-strengthening of the Christian faith?
I am. But I think a part of doing that is by modifying it to be better in our current environment. I think christianity has many good aspects for a society, but it's weak in terms of trying to convince somebody to join it in the information age.
>>67874882
>From my understanding agnostism is when you just admit you don't know and are open to whatever presents itself as valid, while atheism is just a general lack of a belief.
There's no difference, anyone who claims they know for sure some deity doesn't exist has inherently adopted a non-atheistic position as they have no evidence to support their claim.
While there's a large overlap between atheists and fedora tippers, fedora tippers are just a backlash against specific religious organizations, they often take up eastern religions or become "spiritual" as well.
A Satanic Europe to terrorize the Muslim hordes...
... and this should be a Satanic board.
>>67875251
>they don't
Original sin gives all of humanity the inclination to sin. A concupiscence that is in human nature. Then they sin themselves. They aren't being punished for something they didn't do.
>they're punished the second they're born.
Ow, the edge. Do you actually have a real example?
>>67875312
>You're also forgetting Tacitus acknowledged Jesus in his Annals.
He was born decades after Jesus was claimed to have died. There's no reason to believe christians didn't exist back then, which leaves you with the problem of not knowing if he is simply repeating what christians stated as fact. It even gives some suggestion that christians had been around for quite some time already, likely quite some time before Jesus lived according to modern doctrine.
It neither conclusively proves or disproves his existence.
>>67875487
Not a LaVey guy, but I agree.
>>67874381
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/15/florida-schools-have-to-welcome-satanic-temple-after-allowing-bible-thumpers-to-expose-kids-to-christian-materials/
>>67875487
>A Satanic Europe to terrorize the Muslim hordes...
That's a pretty good idea as the only way to have free speech in europe is to claim it is your religious belief.
If facebook or twitter delete anti-islamic posts report them for religious persecution.
>>67875906
I'm not even religious and I agree. Besides, I haven't been spewing satanic propaganda since I was 17.
http://henrymakow.com/upload_docs/The_Satanic_Bible_Underground_Edition_-1.pdf
>>67876219
You're an idiot
>>67875442
>These distinctions only tell me about YOU and what you think.
Not at all. It is a description of God, the being. You're trying to escape the issue by asserting God can only be an idea, and therefore can't be realistic. It's as absurd if I claimed atoms were just a figment of your imagination when, obviously they aren't. It's a bad comparison anyways because you're comparing a thing that is finite and exists inside reality and is dependent on that reality. God is not like that.
>If god were an important part of this universe
He isn't part of it. This assumption that God is an object inside his own universe if by far the biggest mistake atheists make. It leads to shitty "arguments" like "muh skydaddy".
>the statement of his existence should carry some important implication about it. It doesn't.
God existing gives a lot of information regarding the universe, foremost, being the creator of it.
>I can choose to believe it, or not, and it would not affect me one bit.
That's entirely wrong and there are studies to prove it, such as the ones studying belief in free will.
http://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/91974.pdf
http://psp.sagepub.com/content/35/2/260.short
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2757759/
The Catholic Church is the most charitable organization is the world creating more hospitals and schools, than any other as well.It's easily safe to say Christianity is more altruistic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_health_care
>It's like a particularly aggressive virus. Leaving the host destroyed.
Christianity is the vaccine.
>but it's weak in terms of trying to convince somebody to join it in the information age.
Like I said before, there are plenty of scholars out there uncovering the truth, and if they want to ignore all the evidence piling up, that's on them, not Christianity.
>>67875164
>The tenets, summed up
You're paraphrasing and leaving details out so to skip over the logical problems like the one I already illustrated.
>>67875895
>There's no reason to believe christians didn't exist back then
Then benefit of the doubt and Occam's Razor applies in this one case.
>which leaves you with the problem of not knowing if he is simply repeating what christians stated as fact.
That's fine though. Tacitus was a hostile testimony, yet still stated what he knew, regardless of where he got it from. The Roman Christians of his time believes in 'Christus'. There is no reason to disregard this testimony unless you can show how it is incredible.
>likely quite some time before Jesus lived according to modern doctrine.
Pure conjecture.
>It neither conclusively proves or disproves his existence.
By itself maybe. Good thing it isn't alone.
https://youtu.be/r6w2M50_Xdk
>>67874774
Kek.
Stop trying to pervert the scripture
>>67876837
What's the logical problem with "one's body is inviolable etc"?
>>67877522
>Stop trying to pervert the scripture
It's already perverted m8.
>>67865179
The Satanic Temple molests less children than your Christian sect.
>>67875487
>>67875572
This is insanely individualistic though. I believe this can be a big problem for this "religion"/philosophy.
>>67865179
>Satanic Temple
Everybody knows those guys are just edgy Atheists that parody Chrisitan beliefs and push for the the First Amendment.
They don't actually believe in Satan.
I mean, they make "Post-Death Gaying Rituals", that is obviously a parody.
