Islam is an ideology, so how does Trump plan to ban all muslims? How does one know if someone is muslim or not? Not my skin colour there are white, black, asian muslims.
This slippery slope is why donald trump will never be president of the U.S
>>67863270
Are you actually expecting intelligence from Trump supporters?
Kek.
>>67863270
fucking leafs. you cry about a presidential candidate in america while your government does shit to ensure negative gdp growth that will lower your currency value
murica might be nice and napalm your asses in a year pray that we do even that much for you
>>67863488
See?
That's the avarage Trump supporter
>>67863270
Make them eat bacon, draw a picture of Mohammad, etc.
You don't get your 72 virgins if you deny being a muslim. Many will give up their lives for their beliefs, but giving up your afterlife defeats the entire point.
>>67863270
>>67863452
America-kun it looks like you'll have to build two walls.
>>67863583
Not all the muslims are ''orthodox''
Most of them can eat bacon.
>American education
make an oath on the bible part of the immigration process
>>67863270
Are you kidding me?
>>67863270
Stop immigration from the countries highlighted in green.
There. Done. It really couldn't be easier.
>>67863724
So you will not accept christian minorities?
>>67863684
Will most of them draw Mohammad?
>Mexican intellectuals
why hasn't canada built a wall along it's south boarder yet?
>>67863270
Stop all immigration from Syria and surrounding countries until shit settles down to a reasonable degree and we can setup proper vetting unlike Sweden and Germany who have literally been pillaged and raped by these scum.
>ISIS is not a country! We have to call them Daesh!
>We cant ban an ideology!
Fucking liberals. You literally want ISIS infiltrators to come in and destroy the country from the inside. You want muslim supremacists (read: all middle eastern muslims) to come into your country and rape your women and commit crimes without repercussions just like europe.
>>67863270
Geez, it's not like there're multiple countries that identify as "muslim" countries and set their laws after the law of the religion.
>>67863270
bacon test.
>>67863684
sure thing shitskin
>>67863270
Why should President Trump care how other countries view America?
>>67863619
What about the taco strategy where they are allowed to be subversive and manipulative in order to spread islam?
>>67863684
We're trying to vet the radicals idiot
>>67863270
ID badge mate
I gather Muslims get fined if they don't wear them
>>67863786
You can't discriminate somebody for their religion:
>Article 2: Classification of Discrimination.
This article identifies categories of potential discriminators, affirming the right not to be subject to discrimination on the grounds of religion or belief by:
· States (national, regional, local government);
· Institutions (governmental, non?governmental, religious);
· Groups of persons;
· Persons.
You can force him to do something against their religion:
>Article 1: Legal Definition.
This article repeats several rights from the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights’s Article 18:
· Right to thought, conscience, and religion or belief;
· Right to have a religion or whatever belief of your choice;
· Right either individually or in community with others, in private or public, to manifest a religion or belief through worship, observance, practice and teaching;
· Right not to suffer coercion that impairs the freedom to choose a religion or belief;
· Right of the State to limit the manifestation of a religion or belief if based in law, and only as necessary to protect public safety, order, health, morals and the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.
Source: Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
>>67863782
Christian minorities aren't allowed in America silly. They are too offensive.
>>67863724
Yes you could do that but do you realize how negative of a precedent this would set for diplomatic relationships and trade between the what 1.3billion muslims in the world?
I feel like you guys just want to watch the world burn.
>>67863452
Where's the money for the fucking wall, Paco?
>>67864072
Drumpf said ''Muslims''
Are you stupid or what?
Oh wait, you support Drumpf ... anyways.
>>67863724
>Not banning the entirety of Africa
>Not banning Israel
>>67864112
I'll tell you what. If they can stop beheading people in the streets, quit blowing themselves up in busy city centers, and go oh, say, a year without screaming "death to America!" then maybe I'll decide to give a shit about what they think.
Till then, I find it difficult to consider relations to be in a position to get any worse.
>>67864273
>Trump
>Banning Israel
>>67864084
point sufficiently made.
whether this point is taken well by the 99% of descendants of immigrants that helped to populate America is yet to be seen....
maybe what he means is no immigration from syria or any of that other bullshit over there
and the mexicans that will be let in will be negotiated if/when he wins
it actually makes perfect sense
>>67864298
Nice argument, Paco!
>>67863963
Becouse of foregin relations becouse of trade.
America is a trademark. He males america nazi so you evile.
No trade, no bases outside america to protect you self. Allies turning against you.
>>67864084
nobody is forcing them to do anything
they can choose not to do it and not get on the plane
it doesn't matter though, they can be a muslim or a jew or a christian and the president still has free reign to deny them entry.
we could just as effectively deny them entry by being in a muslim majority country that we're at war with
objective accomplished
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
>>67864371
Again, He will let Christian minorities to die?
>>67864407
If trump does win by some miracle he'll be hated by the vast majority of the international community.
this sad, sad, sad,.... statue of liberty, will fall based on immigrants fighting against immigrants
>>67863270
The only other opinion is to do nothing and doing nothing is retarded.
>>67863270
You got a point, but if we ban all sandniggers they will get close enough, check mate.
Serious answer, make all that come be forced to eat bacon and use the hadiths as toilet paper while watching porn.
>>67864371
anyone else get what I'm saying here? let europe deal with the muslim countries, they're basically the mexicans of europe
>>67864371
That's actually exactly what he said. He specifically called for a moratorium on refugee applications until a better vetting system was implemented.
Coincidentally, Obama did the same thing in 2011. His administration implemented a six month moratorium on immigration from Iraq after two refugees were found to be plotting a mass shooting. It lasted six months.
>>67863270
Didn't Trump also mention screenings for Muslims?
Also what's with this pro-Muslim propaganda. Sure, there are "good" and "nice" Muslims, but their religion is undoubtedly spooky shit. With all the shit that goes on now a days, is it that bad to fear them? I don't think so.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx
Deep down all of them dislike non-Muslims. Remember, we're fucking infidel's to them.
>>67864432
>Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
But you can't ban a person just because their religion, you can ban people from certain country, but not a religion.
Trump is making false campaign promises
>>67863270
The problem goes deeper than just the question you ask because your premise exaggerates Trump's position to make it easier to criticize (knowingly of course).
It would be restricting people coming from middle eastern conflict zone countries from entering the US. And it's one of the first things the current presidential administration here did.
>>67864595
They also hate logic and the most basic principles of economics, so I don't see the problem.
>>67863684
Stop being such a sissy José, if your familiy is a bunch of minimum salary illegal wetbacks it is your problem, not theirs.
>>67863270
It's not gonna happen the way you think it is.
He's going to just ban all shitskin immigration altogether. Less flawed then a muslim ban, since a muslim ban is stupid, it would be impossible to know he is or isn't muslim. Since he has talked about wanting to start accepting more Europeans in. And we all know he means the white ones.
>>67864472
no, he'll just set up safe zones in Syria and send them aid
ez fix
>>67864719
>But you can't ban a person just because their religion, you can ban people from certain country, but not a religion.
you absolutely can
the president has the executive power to ban anyone for any reason from entry as long as he remains in office
these people are not US citizens and therefore do not have constitutional rights
this isn't a false promise
>>67864857
Paco pls
>>67863270
Lol you idiot, he isn't banning muslims. He's banning the refugees.
>>67864896
>the president has the executive power to ban anyone for any reason from entry as long as he remains in office
Again, your country is regulated by international laws.
See >>67864084
Gun down anyone who chimps out over the Muslim ban. That way you get rid of uppity Muslims and their white liberal enablers.
We right wing death squad now
>>67863270
>can't ban a person just because their religion
Doesn't say that there, my friend.
>any class of aliens into the United States
Any class.
Sure, it can be fought in the courts but in the meanwhile the temporary ban is up and it's only temporary anyway. It sends a strong message and if the courts decide to shoot it down then he can apply selective entry ban by countries. The muslim countries who don't step in line, get the big ol' ban. There are muslims in European countries and other non-muslim nations of course but it'd still make quite a dent in their plans. Also, it'd function as a bully card to force middle eastern nations into cooperation, specially ones who desperately WANT their citizens to be able to fly to the US.
In summary, you're paying for that wall, amigo.
>>67863270
Ops a fag that has a Government that doesn't care about its own people. when Trump is president America will return to greatness
>>67863270
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/14/federal-data-u-s-annually-admits-quarter-of-a-million-muslim-migrants/
Where does this federal data come from?
>>67863270
Reddicvcks you have to go back. shitposting on /pol/ isn't going to bring back berniecvck from the politically dead. He's done for, Trump from a mathematical view point, has won the nomination. Berniecvcks will be so buttblasted that Hill the Shill has won, they'll become politically apathetic and wont vote at all. Which means Trump will take a comfy victory.. MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. I have no idea why people have such an issue screening for potential terrorist threats..
>>67864998
Kek, assuming the U.S. doesnt own UN
>>67863630
What we actually need, Japan, is to build a giant bridge that spans from the Mexican border, to the Canadian border. Then they can deal with this shit.
>>67863270
It's nice that your question starts from a false premise.
>>67864276
underrated
>>67863630
xD
Hey, Mr Japan, is it true you sell 12 year old girl's used panties from a vending machine to deter sexual predators?
>>67865074
Trumps Greatest Strength is Banning Muslims but it must go further to deport the one's already here because when he is not president they will start shipping more in again
>>67864719
Does your country let in muslims?
>>67864620
After all the wars you drag Europe into, and now you forsake us to fight he beast your leaders created?
>>67864998
You can ban people from certain countries from entering at which point it's not discrimination on the basis of religion. Furthermore, the supremacy close of the constitution tells me international treaties aren't the supreme law of the land and, finally, international laws are enforced by no one and are, therefore, barely laws at all.
>>67864998
see
>>67864432
the president has the executive power to do so
you don't actually believe international laws can dictate how a country handles their own immigration, do you?
by the way, this has nothing to do with muslims that already reside in the US. no one is violating any of their rights as per any international law
god I love seeing butthurt mexican posters cry about trump
>>67863270
>le slippery slope
>ban all immigration
Problem solved. We don't need you. We've got our own problems to take care of.
>>67864998
>he actually thinks America has to follow international laws
Those are for little irrelevant countries to obey, not for America
>>67863270
He's just saying anything he can to get attention, and make sure Hillary wins.
>>67864990
>banning
>refugees
You can't ''ban'' them
You HAVE to accept them
http://www.unhcr.org/4ca34be29.pdf
[Article 1]
And to NOT discriminate them:
See Article 3 - Non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.
See Article 4 - Religion
The Contracting States shall accord to refugees within their territories treatment at least as favourable as that accorded to their nationals with respect to freedom to practise their religion and freedom as regards the religious education of their children.
Of course not every one is a refugee.
>>67865097
As always, this shitty argument.
>>67865309
Yes
>>67865493
The God Emperor already stated his stance on refugees
>>67865493
International laws are enforced by no one.
>How does one know if someone is muslim or not?
>Custom official
>Passport please
>Oh, could you also eat of this on my left
>Dongpo pork
>>67865493
I want to fuck you so hard you'll cry
>>67865607
Great idea Taiwan, it will also keep out the Jews
>>67865572
You can't do anything.
It's on the international law.
>lol we own da UN
This argument is stupid and you know it
>>67865366
>>67865493
actually, rereading the clauses has lead me to believe they only support trumps position
>"Right of the State to limit the manifestation of a religion or belief if based in law, and only as necessary to protect public safety, order, health, morals and the fundamental rights and freedoms of others."
there is nothing wrong with denying muslims entry to your country in a time went you can't successfully differentiate between refugees and ISIS combatants and cannot vet them
therefore, you're wrong
>>67865493
Really? Other countries didn't accept them.
>>67863782
Not from any of those countries, no. They can go to some Arab/North African shithole like Turkey, Greece or Italy
>>67865613
Well, thanks.
>>67865595
By the UN himself.
>Delegations
>Representatives
>Presidents
>>67865346
lol, England you still hold the record for most nation's invaded.
>>67865665
What is going to happen when Trump says no more refugees and tells them to fuck off? I will tell you what happens - leftists and the media get butthurt while refugees are no longer allowed in America. If any other countries have a problem, it's not like they are in a position to do anything about it.
>>67865122
Don't do this to us, please we already have enough asains.
>>67865493
>U.N. World Police fuck them
i order that the UN be dismantled
so do it NOW
its my law so you have to'
because i say so
The UN is the Enemy of all Nations
>>67865493
HAHA! The treaty that no one can get Hungary to honor!
Boy, oh boy, they sure are gonna bully the US into doing it.
>>67865493
>You can't ''ban'' them
>You HAVE to accept them
tell that to the UK/ this is on the french border, refugees waiting to be taken into the UK
>>67863270
Trump is a fucking moron and the fact that he's the front runner for the GOP nomination is proof that a significant percentage of Americans are retarded.
>>67865886
I can't agree with you more my friend.
>>67863270
How did Hitler ban weed them out?
Same concept, only now with more advanced background checking technology.
>>67865712
You can't ban a religion.
It's ridiculous, inneficient and against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
Are you not paying attention to the thread?
>>67865886
No more nuclear for you
>>67865744
Or Sweden
>>67865886
LOL Muslim you're gonna be bombed out of Existence you and your murdering kind'
it's payback for all your genocide against Christians & Buddhists etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZqKLlLc0xo
I don't know how any conservative can support Trump. lel
>>67865886
>>67865954
The fact that nationals from these two countries agree on this should make any American want to vote for Trump.
>>67865886
The world ended in 2012
we are in a south park universe.
Just enjoy the ride.
>>67865976
Read what he said again paco, because you got btfo.
Build wall
>>67865954
>>67865886
Two false religion worshipers
>>67863270
Easy. If they want to immigrate to your country they or are named mohammed they must eat a piece of complimentary bacon that they must pay for.
So $15 to eat a bit of bacon, as well as burn a Quran. Best immigration policy you'll ever get.
If they refuse or chimp the fuck out, they are clearly not welcome.
>>67863786
look at you trying to legit find a way to root them out...
and i bet if pressed you would claim your not a racist.
>>67865886
Be careful what you wish for Iran, if Clinton or Cruz are elected the kike puppet masters will have us invading your country by 2018
>>67865886
>says the muslim
>>67865976
read the clause to the laws you posted, idiot
your argument is that trump cannot deny muslims entry in a time of war against radical islam because it violates international law
the laws you posted have an explicit clause that banning a religion or belief is fine in law, so long as it's for public safety or to protect the freedom of your citizens
the requirement is met and therefore it stands in bounds of international law
ps. the wall got 10ft higher
>>67865744
SWEDEN NO
>>67863270
This should also apply to the migrant crisis.
All boats should have a prophet of mohammed flag when they pick them up.
All escorts and trucks passing them should show depictions of the prophet mohammed, pigs, and must walk over pigsblood to get into your country.
>>67865471
:^)
>>67866060
Nice butthurt
>>67864289
>and go oh, say, a year without screaming "death to America!"
Can we go, oh, say, a year without doing signature strikes on weddings and funerals as well as double tap strikes on random population centers?
oh we cant go a fucking day without doing that. Do you expect them to like us after 14 years of this?
>>67865976
>It's ridiculous, inneficient and against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
You can keep repeat that, but no one is going to do anything over it.
And yes, I can understand why American don't middle eastern refugees.
There is a tiny population of Turkish (all legals) in Taiwan.
And even half way around the globe they still start shit.
Last time they started a small brawl within themselves in the streets of Taipei over over-sea Turkish voting.
>>67865759
>By the UN himself.
The UN will raise an army to enforce the law?
>>67864289
That still doesn't answer the question about how much that would fuck up the global economy and make muslim-western relations much worse-I guarantee you that even most of the Christian population in those countries (north Africa mainly) would hate the West.
>>67866246
In a war, usually, the enemy isn't too fond you. Also, it's not customary to invite their fighting-age men into your borders.
>>67864112
Nearly all those nations hate the US. So they loose nothing.
>>67864084
Yeah fuck that article in the Declaration of Human Rights.
That's a pile of dog shit that needs changing.
>>67863270
He never said anything was 100% enforcable, nothing is.
>>67865766
Fuck off kraut yank, first you stir up the middle east and now like merkel al-germanie you want europe to be destroyed
>>67863270
By banning immigrants from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Libya unless they are properly vetted. He wants to prevent radical Islam from immigrating into the US just like it did Europe and the NATO commander has been going on live tv and saying every 2 week or so.
>>67865122
Perfect plan sempai, Weedman would love it too.
>>67865161
Don't be disgusting, those are children. It starts at 13.
>>67866181
The refugee has to obey the laws of the country He is, that's even obvious. [Article 2of the UN 1951 Convention]
But you can't make a law to ban a religion.[:Universal Declaration of Human Rights]
>ps. the wall got 10ft higher
Nevermind, you're a retard.
>>67866431
Shouldn't you be out running a scam?
But no, the U.S has a lot of strategic military bases in Muslim countries goodluck maintaining them if trump is elected and the alienatation of muslims and fallout
>>67865976
> You can't ban a religion
>Cause I says so and muh human rights.
WTF would UN do to stop the US?
The same thing they do to China which is fuck all.
>>67866413
Yes.
>>67864112
14 years after a total nuclear desolation of every city on earth you can have crops again, we have radiation suites and lead. time to naturally select the best nations to lead us into the future, btw canada and america's nuclear programs are married. and you'll only survive because of american missile defense.
cruz himself made a crack about sand glowing in the dark and nuclear war with isis/iran/iraq/syria etc on live tv during a debate, it was 7 or 8 iirc.
>>67866620
Those nations need the US a lot more than they want people leaving their nation.
Tell me exactly what do they even gain from their people leaving their country let alone if they really get a bad deal from US stopping it.
>>67864473
This. I'm not a diehard Trump supporter like most of /pol/ but to MAGA to full potential he has to realize the practical side of things. So far ITT we've seen the problems with being able to properly vet and check immigrants to see if they're muslim. In the end there is no way. A radical will lie and draw a Mohammad as long as he screams ALLAHU ACKBAR at the end.
I'm for cutting complete (or somewhere close, like 98% and the 2% are properly vetted and checked and won't leech off of welfare) cut-off of people who have been in recently or are from any country or any country next to where you have muslim terror groups active, a government that has ever supported terrorism, or are basically muslim majority countries that are not actively trying to combat terrorism and don't have the first two issues. Really anywhere that could export a terrorist. And refugees should be properly handled in Syria, not here, but I don't mind helping that effort to keep alive the people who will have to pick up the pieces.
The only thing I'm worried about is screwing Europe that much harder. Or rather, letting them screw themselves that much harder. I don't want them to think that, because we did what we had to (I don't actually think it's a huge deal, we've been dealing with mid eastern mudslimes for years and we've had one 9/11 and a couple shootings/bombings in ~30 years, better to just crush the shit spicket at the source instead of wasting time with immigration), that they have to take on the rest. It'll lead them on the path to ruin that much faster. We need to find a way to draw the line and stop the people who are creating refugees before they migrate and spread the affliction, and I believe that it means escalating force. Bomb anything that isn't a town and have men there to fuck up those who are.
>>67866246
What, you mean that one church that consists of a single family that literally every christian denomination unanimously reviles and publicly denounces every time they show up?
>>67866424
Why? Because we stop putting up with their shit?
Also how exactly do you think telling the horde of animals beheading people in the streets that they can't come here would hurt the world economy? Or are you just going to spout some globalist bullshit about how borders are inherently evil, but only if the country in question is western?
>>67866426
In a war, there is typically an enemy that is more tangible than "the idea of terrorisim"
That enemy is also able to surrender.
This "war" lacks that, and so will just continue on forever. Do you think the surviors of the weddings we blow up will *ever* like us?
Each bomb we drop kills people, and for each person we kill two more become enemys of america. We are litteraly manufacturing our enemies over there.
Do you want to just start the genocide and just go on a killing spree? And how will the rest of the world react to that? Your not even trying to be realistic if you want this.
And short of an outright genocide, there is no way to win "the war".
You want to demand that they lay down and do nothing while we bomb them for a year straight, but you have no problem with us continuing the bombing.
If you want them to stop fighting, we have to stop bombing as well.
>>67864112
Japan turns away 99% of refugees every year with no consequences, and the vast majority of them are Middle Eastern.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Check out how many lies he tells.
His populism is reminiscent of Sanders' socialist bullshit.
>we'll make American companies produce in America
YOU CAN'T YOU FUCKING MORON!
>>67866639
Good goy, you are ready to embrace the one world government, joto.
>Banning all muslims
>means banning all arabs
>lots of arabs are christians
>many arabs will become christians and will cheat the system
I mean what kind of dumb fuck do you have to be to not realise this?
>>67866555
>But you can't make a law to ban a religion
As per what law? Where is the law in question? It certainly isn't Covenant on Civil and Political Rights’s Article 18. Covenant on Civil and Political Rights’s Article 18 says what Trump is doing is a-okay.
No one is banning the religion, they are banning muslim immigration to their host nation and temporarily in a time of war. This says nothing about muslims currently in the host nation either, they are still free do practice their religion freely.
>>67866857
Check out how lies many the politijews tell
>>67866796
>What, you mean that one church that consists of a single family that literally every christian denomination unanimously reviles and publicly denounces every time they show up?
It sounds like you talking about Westboro, but they have nothing to do with this conversation.
The anon i linked said he wants muslims to go one year without screaming death to america. In the same breathe he says that he also says he is fine with us dropping bombs on weddings and blowing up funerals.
If a muslim blew up a funeral or wedding they would be called a terrorist. But when we blow up weddings and funerals "thats war".
Also they are supposed to lay down and take their bombings without being mad, the bombings arent a problem at all.
Do you not see the insanity, retardation, and hipocrisy in all of this? Westboro has nothing to do with anything
>>67866841
Yes, but Japan is known as a country known for being fearful of outsider it doesn't evoke the same rhetoric as Mr. Trump.
>>67866837
Nothing says we have to let people who hate us into our country. Maybe if they dont want bombed they should remove Isis themselves.
>>67865766
step up nigga
>>67863579
MEXICO!
>Who!?
MEXICOOOOOOO
>>67863270
Immigration in general should be limited for many obvious reasons.
Also weeding out Muslims isn't hard since they typically come from Muslim areas and shouldn't even been candidates for immigration in the first place since they are uneducated and often don't even speak our language.
You act as if it would be difficult but a normal limited immigration policy that mainly brought in people from the ethnicity that built the country (Europeans) and strongly screened those who weren't and perhaps checked up on those immigrants for a 1-2 year period after they've arrived would easily prevent almost all Islamists from entering the country.
>>67867096
We arent even bombing Isis, and we created Isis by making a power vaccum for them to form. Our govt knew that destabilizing the reigion would have that effect before they did it as well.
Keep trying.
>>67865359
Japan is also incredibly racist. See how they treat white expatriates. They DO NOT like foreigners. They call foreigners, especially whites, GAIJIN. They also deny the shit they pulled in Nanking and Korea. Fuck Japan.
>>67863270
I legitimately fucking despise you and hope you die. You, and those like you, are why I gave grown to hate this country. Fuck you.
>>67866877
>Article 1: Legal Definition.
>Article 2: Classification of Discrimination.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
>Article 3 - Non-discrimination
>Article 4 - Religion
1951 UN Convention
shut up justin TruDOPE
I will punch you
>>67863684
dude my drug dealer is a paki, the only "muslim" things about him is that he won't eat pork and he is openly hostile of jews
>>67863270
>Reply
We would really have to ban all extremist mosques (or simply all mosques), which we should have done from the beginning.
>>67867269
So what has UN done to stop China?
>>67863270
Do the pork test
If they dont eat it they are either a jew or muslim
Either way we keep them both out and we win
>>67867222
Since when did Americans agree to follow the rules of the UN?
Was there a vote in the past that I am not aware of?
If not then none of those rules really matter and its just corrupt globalist bullshit.
>>67863270
How did Obama know who was Muslim when he banned everyone coming from Iraq?
>>67867338
The number of times this has been parroted is evidence of the average American IQ. If this law comes into effect I will definitely enjoy watching the hilarity that ensues.
>>67863452
Are you, by any chance, one of those famed "Mexican Intellectuals" ?
>>67867270
It's dat nigga Kim
>>67867269
you're referencing >>67864084
>Right of the State to limit the manifestation of a religion or belief if based in law, and only as necessary to protect public safety, order, health, morals and the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.
Are you retarded?
>>67863270
>banning Muslims is racist!
>b-but you cant tell who is Muslim by their race!
make up your minds already
>>67866894
>not wanting all to embrace the true faith.
heathen detected.
>>67867222
Muslims didn't join the UN because Universal Declaration of Human Rights did not comply with Sharia law. so Universal Declaration of Human Rights does not apply to them
>>67866145
Muslims aren't a race, dumbass.
>>67863270
Ban mosques then
>>67863724
>Stop immigration from select countries
>>67864112
>That would harm muslim/western relations (hue)
>>67864289
>Me saying maybe they should stop acting like fucking animals
>>67866246
>You talking about some bullshit without any specifics
Alright, I give up. Where the fuck did I say the things you are claiming I said? I actually went through the whole linked conversation because you just seemed to pull it out of your ass.
What in the fuck are you even talking about at this point?
>Do you not see the insanity, retardation, and hypocrisy in all of this?
Honestly, if you store your weapons in a hospital or a school, then no, I see no problem with bombing it. Don't put your military shit in a hospital or school.
>>67867222
fuck you and fuck the UN president Enrique
does not hold power over USA
USA FORMS UN
they can do what they want
>>67863270
>are you muslim
>"no"
>are you sure?
>"yes"
>muslims arent allowed to deny islam
>"i didnt say anything about denying islam"
>so you support it correct?
>"no"
>so you support muslims
>"yes"
>so you support islam, since muslims follow islam, and if you support muslims, IE supporting islam, you arent allowed to deny either.
>either way, muslim=islam sympathizer
NEXT
>>67867549
Islam is racist.
The ideology itself as defined by the book it is based on is 100x more racist and xenophobic then the KKK's ideology.
>but anon not all Muslims follow the bad parts
Well real life examples strongly suggest they do especially once they have enough numbers to really influence things. Smaller areas change quickly enough once they dominate said areas and all majority Muslim nations are or change to religious law which is then enforced on all people and in all Muslim countries Christians or non-Muslims are treated like shit.
>but anon... religion of peace
Yeah.. sure. Keep your head in the sand.
The fact Trump is popular just goes to show that America has a terrible education system. You are worse than Obama supporters. God Emperor? Give me a break.
>>67867767
How would you like to be broken?
>>67867586
religionist, whatever. Muslims is code word for "brown middle eastern looking person" anyways. You know thats how it will play out. When the concentration camps come they wont bother to double check to make sure they are all Muslim, or bother to get White or Asian Muslims.
They will just round up suffciently brown and black people and throw them into camps.
>>67867767
And yet Hillary is Obama 2.0 with George Soros backing her financially.
But she's a better choice right...?
Dumb fucking turd.
>>67867678
They have internet in NK? Is 4chan a government sanctioned website?
Either way, get nuked.
>>67867846
no fuck you Justin TruDOPE
you are a DOPE
! ! !
>>67867678
trump is fat and bankrupt he has to do as hes told.
>>67867842
No its not.
Muslim is a code word for ignorant retarded people who believe in the Islamic ideology (as defined by the Quran).
Arabs are fine if they truly aren't Muslim and will accept and defend our secular values.
What an awful argument.
Basically just shouting RACISS at those who understand the danger of allowing the Islamic ideology to grow and expand in their lands through media support and immigration.
>>67866788
I just realized that Obama accidentally pulled the best formula out of his gaping Michelle-shaped asshole:
1. Destroy evil regime, let good Muslims take over with little oversight
2. Good Muslims make either a police state or one that targets bad muslims
3. Bad Muslims start bombing themselves all over their own country
4. Good Muslims crack down on terrorism, some good Muslims at caught in the crossfire
5. Bad Muslims gain support from people who hate the Good Muslims now
6. Bad Muslims grow powerful enough to destabilize the area
7. Bad Muslisms now killing tons of Muslims indiscriminately, both in their country and the ones around it, further damaging the solvency of the region
8. Start intervening but actually prolong the fighting by giving the Good Muslims just enough to hang on
9. Say jk, Good Muslims were actually racist dictators the whole time and our specific branch of Bad Muslims are freedom fighters, at this point the news is hitting the media
10. Slowly assist without real action, prolonging battle
11. Finally pull an AMERICA FUCK YEAH and take the glory for fighting a hard-won war singlehandedly, destroy the formerly Good and all the non-freedom fighter Bad Muslims
12. Install Bad (now Good) Muslims into power, watch cycle repeat and watch them kill each other again with little influence
Damn.
>>67867626
>>You talking about some bullshit without any specifics
I listed specifics. Bombing weddings. Bombing funerals. Bombing population centers with huge amounts of civilians.
>Honestly, if you store your weapons in a hospital or a school, then no, I see no problem with bombing it. Don't put your military shit in a hospital or school.
Even if thats true 100% of the time (its not), that still does not account for double tapping (bombing first responders to the bombs)
That still does not excuse us for being the Terrorists that bomb weddings and funerals with no evidence other than "a cell phone we think MIGHT belong to a terrorist leaning person is there"
That is terrorisim.
We do that.
>>67867689
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
fucking retard.
Just have them connect the (pic related) dots.
>>67863782
their passports lists their religion
>>67867549
Oh an expert on Islam are we? If you had studied it you would know that there are quite different ideologies. That alone shows you don't understand Islam.
>>67868007
There is no such thing as "good Muslims" etc...
Good Muslims are Muslims who call themselves Muslims but by the words of their own religious book would never in a million years be considered Muslim and infact under their own religious rules they'd be killed.
The Quran is 99% ignorant oppressive shit and hatred towards though who do not follow the ideology.
Good Muslims are basically ignoring most of it so they can hardly be called Muslims.
Its like Christians who have never read the bible and have no understanding of what Christianity really is but they just call themselves that because they like the identity status and probably because they have friends/family who also call themselves that or may actually be real Christians.
Unfortunately with Islam those types are an extreme minority even in the West.
>>67867971
Because racists like the KKK support him, and he does not denounce them immediatly.
Because he litteraly studies and repeats Hitler and Mussolini quotes and idealogies, and THOSE did not bother to stick to "only jews". They just rounded up anyone they felt like. Or captured in war.
>Every two to three years you have to mail in your official Drawing of Mohammed to the Bureau of Mohammed Drawings
>>67868037
>bombing funerals
Why do we do this? It's easier to just wait for the 21 Bomb Salute.
>>67867767
You're a tough guy Jeb
>>67868240
>The Quran is 99% ignorant oppressive shit and hatred towards though who do not follow the ideology.
So is the Bible. Read the old testament.
I grew up in the church and have studied the bible for over 20 years. God calls for the genocide of untold millions, and encourages the killing of those in our own familys and communitys.
He will ban migration from "high risk countries" like Malaysia does.
Step-by-Step process:
>1. "Are you a Muslim?"
>2. if YES: Congrats, you found them out!
>if NO: "Do you know what Muhammad looked like?"
>3. if YES: "Could you draw him for me?"
>if NO: "I think this is what he looked like" and then begin to draw Muhammad
>4. if subject displays APATHY or AMUSEMENT: "Welcome to the USA!" but keep them under surveillance for 60 days.
>if subject displays ANGER, FEAR, or DISCOMFORT: Congrats, you found them out!
>>67868240
That's the joke retard, the "good muslims" become bad ones as soon as they're given power.
>>67868296
Brown guy bombs funeral
>OMG MUSLIM TERRORISSSSTTTT
USA bombs funeral
>A justified use of force against the terrorist threat.
>Not seeing the hipocrisy as well as seeing how america is the real terrorist.
Full retard level achived.
>>67868037
>I listed specifics.
1) No you didn't.
2) You just pulled this out of your ass, claimed I brought it up, and now cling to it like a koala in a death grip.
How about you start giving me links and tell me where I ever even mentioned it like you claimed.
Trump supporters are pussies with tiny dicks and massive inferiority complex. Get over the microscopic size of your dick and man up. It does explain your obsession with cuckolding. Disgusting the lot of you. Human garbage total swine.
>>67868278
I don't care about quotes, I care about intent.
That is an awful argument.
In simple terms its like if Donald Trump said he liked Choclate milk and Hitler was also recorded once saying he liked Choclate milk then Trump = Hitler. That is stupid.
Only a moron thinks Trump is gonna fuck with legal American citizens based on race or that if tried that he wouldn't get immediately impeached.
And banning poor uneducated Muslims from entering the country has TONS of benefits and literally zero downside so why would any American be bothered by it?
Other then the false belief that we've always let everyone in when our immigration policies for most of our countries history were never like that and have been drastically changed in recent times.
Or that we have some obligation to take in foreigners.
Fuck that.
A USA citizenship should be a highly prized thing (as it once TRULY WAS) not something we just handout to tons of random undeserving fucks.
I oppose excessive immigration of any kind regardless of the type of people coming.
>>67863960
>shitskin
and this guy votes. wow america is such a shithole
>>67868278
Dude you are fucking stupid its not even funny.
You basically take the half truth talking points from TV and even invent some shit of your own you can add "studies and repeats hitler and mussolini" you are really fucking retarded because of one single quote? And he even said he doesnt care about the person he just likes good quotes you know like millions of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg
>>67863452
I've been waiting for achance to use this pic forever
>Islam is an ideology, so how does Trump plan to ban all muslims? How does one know if someone is muslim or not?
If we can't figure out something as basic as their religion, we have no business letting them into the country.
You proved Trump's point.
>>67868278
>Because racists like the KKK support him, and he does not denounce them immediately.
Oh, you mean like Hillary?
Or most of the democratic party, actually.
>>67868505
>Brown guys bomb their own funeral out of respect for their fellow bomber
>OMG MUSLIM TERRORISSSSTTTT
>USA bombs blast crater that formerly held a funeral
>oh they've done it for us, let's follow through with the mission or this bomb will go to waste
Calm down shill, you don't do any damage with such low-level arguments like this. If you don't mind could you tell me who is raiding right now? This shit is almost full-scale for a small to medium sized group but unless Reddit has shifted from pro-Bernie to anti-Trump then I can't think of a name. Thanks.
>>67868528
>I'll tell you what. If they can stop beheading people in the streets, quit blowing themselves up in busy city centers, and go oh, say, a year without screaming "death to America!" then maybe I'll decide to give a shit about what they think.
>Till then, I find it difficult to consider relations to be in a position to get any worse.
You posted that, demanding a year of them being peaceful before your willing to parlay and have any kind of conversation with them.
>Can we go, oh, say, a year without doing signature strikes on weddings and funerals as well as double tap strikes on random population centers?
>oh we cant go a fucking day without doing that. Do you expect them to like us after 14 years of this?
I replied, pointing out how we wantonly blow their countries to shit and they have every right to hate us for it.
We do things to them that we would call terrorism if they did it to us. Making us as bad as our enemy.
>>67866246 (You)
>You talking about some bullshit without any specifics
You accuse me of not talking specifics, which i did. Weddings, Funerals, Double Taps. Things we do that justify their hate.
That same hate that you want to disappear for one whole year before your willing to talk to them.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=america+bombing+weddings
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=america+bombing+funerals
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=america+bombing+double+taps
have some links. They are 100% justified to hate us and you should be willing to talk to them now, with apologies in hand.
Imagine if china spent the last 14 years bombing every american city, blowing up weddings, blowing up funerals, blowing up hospitals, blowing up schools. Calling all americans ignorant savages.
You think we would be willing to NOT want china to die?
>>67868206
Wtf are you on about?
>>67868882
Most Muslims live in Muslim majority countries or in Muslim dominated areas.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to keep them out.
Plus since America is a majority White country (or was before decades of excessive Hispanic immigration) most of the people we let in should also be European so we can preserve our founding ethnicity.
I mean if Japan did that no one would complain.
Why is America and parts of Europe the only places actively diluting their main ethnic group to such a degree?
Not saying we can't let in minorities but it should be limited so that they don't change the balance.
>>67863270
Give them a piece of sausage or bacon to eat when they try to immigrate.
>includes "slippery slope" to confirm bait
>still gets hundreds of replies
/pol/ why
>>67868984
Don't confuse the American military controlled by evil globalists with the American people you stupid fucking shit for brains.
Do you think most Americans have supported most of our recent wars even with the media brainwashing telling us to? Do you think most Americans even knew what Iraq was prior to our fucking with them?
But yeah us evil Americans were marching down the streets after 9/11 calling for us to bomb the shit out of Baghdad. You got us.
>>67868791
imo that beaner got BTFO
>>67863270
Its a temporary ban on countries with large Muslim populations like Canada
Wake me up when japan or especially isreal which promotes multiculti opens its border's to multiculturalism.
Tell me one reason why its only the EU and US that should import its own fucking future genocide on a large scale as it happens currently in Europe (france, sweden,..)
Until you can i consider the whole refugee ordeal part of the kalergi plan and people that are pro refugee at best useful idiots at worst traitors.
>>67868984
So by your logic, and I'm just trying to figure out your position here, Hitler was totally justified because we bombed civilian centers? Imperial Japan was totally in the right for their attack on Pearl Harbor because of our horrible attacks on civilians?
Let me get one simple thing straight that you seem to be endlessly confused about. Trump has outright stated that Bush fucked up when he got involved, and I would prefer to pull out and let the region murder itself to death, but here you are, making claims about "muslim/west" relations as if I fucking give a damn what a bunch of pedophilic goat fuckers think about my country's foreign policy, and then seem to think I should feel bad when the rest of the world bombs the shit out of them when they start acting like animals.
So I told you what I would want them to do in order for me to consider any opinion they have worth listening to.
>Imagine if china spent the last 14 years bombing every american city, blowing up weddings, blowing up funerals, blowing up hospitals, blowing up schools. Calling all americans ignorant savages.
We don't behead asians in the streets, chant "death to china" burn chinese flags and effigies of their political leaders, shoot up chinese army bases and recruiting centers, keep weapons caches in churches, hospitals, and schools, or act like ignorant savages.
Well, except for majority black neighborhoods, but China could carpet bomb every american Ghetto and all it would do is increase our annual tax revenue and lower our crime statistics by several factors, so I don't think that would be all that much of a loss.
>>67863270
I guess it's just like banning nazism in Europe. Or he's simply not going to pander to the muslim requests like removal of certain types of foods, and such.
It's simple.
>>67863452
then
>>67864138
>>67863452 confirmed
>>67864298
>that moment that they were too pussy to kill someone with their head up
>>67868387
Yeah except the Bible, despite being retarded, isn't literally taken to be the word of god by the majority of christians. The quran is believed to literally be the words of allah. It's a lawbook written by allah himself, throuhg muhammad. That's what makes it so dangerous.
>>67864816
We got an economist here, boys.
>>67870065
>isn't literally taken to be the word of god by the majority of christians.
I think it's a better point to mention that even if it was, a literal translation of the Bible results in a selfless mostly-pacifist poor person.
A literal translation of the quran results in a violent jihadist.
>>67863619
>>67863982
>>67863583
>"This principle is one of the basic fiqhi principles which are indicated by sharee’ah: Everything that is forbidden becomes permissible in the case of necessity."
>"Necessity means cases in which a person will be harmed if he does not take the haraam option, in which the harm will effect the five essentials which are: religion, life, honour, reason and wealth."
So as you can see "necessity" is pretty broad. Being deported would probably be considered harmful to at least wealth, so they could deny being a Muslim if that was the only way to avoid being deported.
>>67863270
Do you even know what you're talking ab-- Oh right, a leaf.
He wasn't going to ban all Muslims. Please educate yourself on what's going on in the US. He was going to put a stop to the entire refugee program wanting to pour in from the ME due to security issues. This is nothing new and been done before, it's only somehow relevant to certain people now because so many people dislike Trump and therefor spin it 100 different ways to fit their narrative, despite any falsities in those statements. People eat it up/fall for it anyway. Btw, not everyone in the ME is Muslim, just encase you're oblivious to that fact as well.
>>67863270
Clinton, while secretary of state, put a halt on processing visa's from Iraq for 6 months. Simply do the same for any nation that is known to harbour Islamic terrorists or has an uncontrolled Islamic terrorist problem.
Bam, selection criteria established.
>>67865744
No, get all the Christians over here. Pretty soon, they will all have been wiped from the face of the earth if they remain there. We need them here so they can connect with our resident Christians, and hopefully whip our pussified "people's church" back in shape. Our fucking lesbian priests are letting muzzies perform their rites in our churches ffs.
>>67870065
It is taken as the word of God though.
The whole trick is that christianity already has had it's period of religion wars and reformation, while islam, being a pretty young religion, is still stuck in the time it was developed and therefore has undergone any reformation into a more peaceful variant.
>>67872313
>therefore has
*therefore hasn't
>>67863270
>so how does Trump plan to ban all muslims?
How many times do idiots have to have a soundbyte explained? HE NEVER SAID HE WOULD BAN THEM. He said a MORaTORIUM on Muslim immigration from warzones, until we come up with a way to accurately vet them; he said we would set up refugee centers in neighboring countries to help muslim refugess instead.
The problem with that, is conservatives want to let in Christians from those areas, because they're victims of genocide. ISIS can infiltrate christian communities too, so the problem might also apply to christians fleeing genocide.
Stop just listening and believing the propaganda, that's all mainstream media is. You have to have noticed by now how they turn and contradict themselves at least, several times a day. How their message changes with who's in political power, or which parent company buys them. Wake the fuck up.
