He has a point.
Based Sargon Of Akkad.
>white supremacy is a made up term
kek, because people have never claimed white people are the best race...
>Sargon
>british
EVERY FUCKING TIME
BEADY
>>67818244
Tools who do the Left's dirty work by punching rightward should be excised from all right-wing communities. No enemies to the right.
>>67818424
It's not really up for debate, that's why everyone wants to come and live in the first world countries we built.
This guy is thick as fuck.
>>67818244
>muh individualism
God YouTube pseudo intellectuals are so fucking cringeworthy.
>>67818244
What is he then? Does he believe in just civic nationalism? That is even more made up than white people having the mind to take care of themselves which is what "white interests" means.
>>67818244
Only fucking white people. Only god damn white people. Every other fucking nationalist is okay but OH NO BETTER WATCH OUT FOR FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE.
I'm sick of this shit. I'm so god damn tired of this garbage that it makes me wanna end it all
>>67818244
hes a cuck, he like muzzie cock
>>67819014
This
MUH HORSESHOE
"Centrists" are the reason we're in this mess
The left pushes hard and everybody else moves with them
The right has to do the same
>>67819346
Remember the stink that this caused? Mean while every race, minority, sexuality, sex, gender, pro-nouns, queer, niggers, trans-fats and whatever else have their own student unions but HEAVEN FORBID a white student union.
>>67818857
They'd go to Japan if they were allowed in.
>>67819549
Why do you have to remind me? God damn man it just never fucking ends with these people. Fucking christ!
What >>67819014 said.
>>67818536
LITTLE
>>67819346
White nationalism (the leaders) as is it today is pretty stupid but there is nothing wrong with wanting perseve your race and culture imo
>>67819674
>>67818244
Blacks and gays get advantages because they advocate for their collective interests. Historically whites secured advantages by advocating for their collective interests. White life spans and populations are declining in the face of the rejection of a collective identity.
Isn't Sargon one fo those people who claims to be reasonable and evidence based in his thinking? Why does he ignore the facts of history?
>>67819728
ANGLO
If you want to get rid of racist agendas, mock the groups like KKK, BLM, and many more. That's one way of making a better nation. The only interests are for those of your country, not a group in the country.
>>67818244
>gay and black interests don't exist
As oven worthy as they are, they are capable of having common goals. Like not being shoah'd. That's mostly why I listen to TRS. I'd really like to keep Europe a monolithic white civilization without Jews being hated for thier leadership roles.
>>67819674
>doesn't find irony in the fact that Hitler was beady eyed as fuck
>>67819014
>>67819515
he's right though, the only reason white nationalism or at the very least nationalism and sepretism is growing is because globalism and anti-white ideology is being pushed in the mainstream, it's been coined neoreactionaryism,
most of these trump supporters used to call themselves libertarians and anarchists back in 2008 the only reason they've jumped ship to nationalism is because their identity as human beings and citizens of their respective nations has been attacked and demonized by the social justice/cultural marxist mainstream agenda.
but from a completely consequentialist perspective without the insanity of social justice and neoreactionaries, individualism is the most ideal philosophy to espouse from.
he's still a libtard though and probably doesn't understand the disposition this well, he's just pandering to anti-white sentiment.
pic unrelated
>>67820099
>>67819946
>>67819674
Is there any way to renounce my anlgo heritage and become cleansed if I am of anglo-norman descent?
>>67820482
He said that they literally don't exist. He is wrong. Try reading a book instead of watching videos on internet.
>>67820482
good post
>>67820675
>He said that they literally don't exist.
that's because he's controlled opposition
>>67818244
The Republicans are the party of White trash. The Democrats are the party of Black trash. What we need in the United States, is to escalate political tension until these groups begin slaughtering one another in the streets. Dead White trash Republicans and dead Black trash Democrats is the only WIN/WIN political outcome for the actual people of this country.
>/pol/ getting this triggered
You really are a bunch of weenies
>>67819870
> Slavs and Germans have a white skin, yet the nationalisms are geared against each other.
You can't compare intraracial with interracial conflict. If Crips and Bloods kill each other, doesn't mean they can't support black nationalism (whatever that is). It's a taboo in leftist circles to defend european identity.
>>67818244
>le I don't don't any side meme
Considering sargon is a quadroon this makes sense
>>67821112
Eurotrash is Eurotrash doesn't matter what flag they fap to.
>>67820861
>>67818244
But black and gay interests exist, they are just sometimes at odds with normal people interests. So the fact is if there are special interest groups more minorities there should also be for whites.
>>67820437
>beady
Anyway, you shouldn't be replying to those trolls.
>"white interests" is as nonsense a phrase as black or gay interests
How?
Is it not in the fucking interess of most gay people to be able to get married?
Is it not in the fucking interests of most black people to not be fucking murdered by eachother in poverty?
How is it not in the fucking interests of white people to not have fucking shitskins degrading the quality of life in our countries?
>>67821226
Shut up, redneck hillbilly quarter-nigger mongrel.
>>67818244
He has no point at all. Identity is an actual thing with very real consequences. He's just a garden-variety cuckservative. Or maybe cucklertarian.
>>67821339
Nope, both parties are Jew puppet organizations. Which is why getting the brain dead, degenerate subhuman trash that support these parties to begin exterminating each other is the only way to deal a significant blow to the Jew.
>>67821163
Source?
>>67821607
Sounds like your panties are in a bunch because you are a Slav rape baby.
>>67818244
>based
I just tweeted this at him when I saw it, he liked it so at least he has a sense of humor
>let's pretend different groups don't exist and don't have different interests so we aren't like le essjayUUs and can maintain snarky distance from addressing hard topics like race and sex because everyone is le individual hahaha wow I am very smart
Why are so many cuckservatives like this?
We are "reverse SJW". We are the opposite of everything they stand for. Not just making fun of them because they are dumb like some smarmy cuck but opposing their principles.
>>67821772
>>67820247
Fucking stupid contrarian retard.
BLM is a thing because stories of unarmed black people getting killed by cops is a thing. Even if you hate the blacks the police brutality element of the story should frightens you. Also BLM just fucked over the prosecutor who threw the case with the BB gun black kid.
Not even white people are safe from cops
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/cops-shoot-and-kill-naked-woman-in-her-bed-after-they-order-her-to-show-them-where-she-keeps-her-gun_032016
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/05/us/aspergers-woman-killed/
>>67818244
>All forms of collective identity are bad--ethnicity, nation, religion--all erroneous essentialism
>Individualism is the only valid form of identity
Liberalism, everybody.
I'm going to enjoy the shitshow when liberals try to convince the Chinese that their 5000 year history doesn't belong to them, and their identity must be destroyed to protect western individualism.
>>67822150
My bad, I didn't realize the most recent round of Eurotrash Arab rape babies were online yet.
>>67822228
>liberals
>pro-individualism
wot
>>67819014
this.
sargon and his fanbase are way up their own ass.
>>67822228
>not understanding individualism
You know collectivism is literally what marxists do right? You can have an identity, individualism doesn't stop you from getting one.
>>67822421
>>67821667
>>67821163
>>67818244
Found the source myself, right on twitter. Screenshot attached.
Link to the twitter conversation:
>https://twitter.com/Third_Position/status/681225602645540865
I listen to his videos now and again. He seems like a decent guy, even if I do disagree with him on some points.
>>67822577
thats collectivism to the extreme. not everything is black and white
>>67822627
he's basically controlled opposition like the SNEAKY LITTLE ANGLO HE IS
>>67822577
also facist countries like nazi germany were collectivist. its not always left wing
>>67822620
heh, that is a perfect representation of the degenerate subhuman garbage that support Republicans and Democrats. Which is yet another reason why the only WIN/WIN scenario for actual people in the United States is mass political violence between the supporters of the major parties.
>>67822620
>GerMOORany
>white
>>67822441
They are. Both classical liberals and leftist liberals are pro-individual at the expense of everything else. The difference is "freedom of the individual to" (classical) vs "freedom of the individual from (oppression, racism, sexism etc)"
>>67822840
It tends to be for marxist. It's how dogma works.
>>67822441
It's about total liberation from all constraints that limit an individual. Once gay identity, or black identity destroys their rivals ("white society"), gays and blacks will rebel against their own identity groups to the extent that they feel limited by their association. Transexualism is about liberation from biological constrains. Transracialism is already next, and a similar rebellion against material reality "unfairly" hampering the individual ego. Transspeciesism is next. There can be NO contraints on the individual, because all constraints are oppressive. This is the terminal stage of liberalism. It ALWAYS needs something to liberate people from. It cannot exist without a constant struggle for liberation. Even Marxism at least had a mythical end state. Liberalism dies because it only have liberation FROM, not liberation FOR anything.
>>67822577
Liberalism has poisoned the mind so people think ethnic cohesion, or national identity are literally communism.
He's right. White nats are fucking edge faggots. If you believe whites are superior shut the fuck up about it cause it makes us look weak.
>>67819527
Fuck reactionary politics. The horseshoe is definitely real. In an extremist Leftist political atmosphere, the amount of people you're going to attract isn't going to make up for the amount of pushback you'll get.
>implying gays and blacks dont have their own interests they always try to push
not even anything wrong with it, of course you're going to want what's best for you, you're just going to get cucked hard if you don't do it too aka white people
>>67822627
>why so many of my ancestors have fucked so many of yours
Does he really think it's even close to being even? Literally every black/mixed person in the Americas have white MALE ancestors while white FEMALE ancestors in these communities are very rare.
>>67818244
>Sargon
>not a faggot
>muh "classical liberalism"
>I literally have no pride in my country or my people who are white
Fucking cuck.
>>67819014
this
>>67823111
Which is why both need to be pushed to the point of open political violence against one another.
>>67823020
>It tends to be for marxist
nazi germany anyone?
>>67819623
Which was conquered and rebuilt by a white nation.
>>67818244
Where's the argument claiming his views?
>>67823345
That sounds exactly like Caesar's plan from New Vegas. Which is, quite obviously, really risky.
>>67818244
I'm white and I'm a nationalist.
I want a stronger border to stop illegal immigrants from entering the country bringing drugs and crime. I want the government to stop giving hand outs to these fucking leeches and make them work regular jobs or leave. I want people to stop being allowed to take advantage of our country because we stopped caring about it. I want people to be proud to be American again instead of having to find other labels to call themselves by to fill in their loss of national identity. It's destroyed our society.
If Sweden was full of strong nationalists it wouldn't be a dead country. If Germany was full of strong nationalists it's children wouldn't be suffering.
If Sargon think there's a problem with being a Nationalist then he's far less of a logical decent fucking human being I thought he was.
Nationalism doesn't mean you need to kill an entire fucking race. If more people valued their homes the world would be a better fucking place.
>>67823496
Not a gamer, so not familiar. But pushing the supporters of both parties to mass political violence is, at this point, possible and necessary, and it is the only WIN/WIN scenario for the actual people of this country.
>>67823479
>SJWs have strong beliefs in things so if you also have strong beliefs you are an SJW
>>67819549
We tried lads, and we got beaten down asap
>>67818244
Is he arguing that gay rights are a joke and blacks don't have a right to their own country?
>>67823111
>I'm in the middle, that means I'm right!
Moderation = Mediocrity
>autistic retard beats up on a bunch of ideological lightweights to gain notoriety
>pretends to be alt right
>shills for bernie
>goes full anti-white
>just happens to be jewish
>still cant hold his own in a legit debate
dropped him a long time ago.
>>67818244
>nice
People start to get it.
Red Pill the masses
>>67823621
he's too focused on individualism being "the good side" to see past it.
he said in a livestream talking to some "alt right" people that if you take an african and put him in the same environment as a white group they will be the same. and blames the massive difference in crime on "other" issues rather than genetic.
hes afraid to be labeled a racist i think.
>>67823644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyeTaXv6o4Y
>>67823751
I'm not even moderate. I'm just not a reactionary. Your views should never be an attempt to reverse the views of your opponents.
>>67820642
have you tried suicide
>>67818244
It's simply a matter of personal taste. I'm white and I prefer the company of other whites. My "white interest" is not to be forced to integrate with non-whites, which marxist governments do.
I don't hate other races, and I don't think that a person of another race hates me, only because he prefers to stay with his own kind.
That's the paradox about ethno-centrist nationalism (i.e. Europe for whites, Israel to the jews, Africa for Blacks etc.): The separation grows affection between the races, because we can learn from our differences but don't get in conflict over them. Forced integration fosters conflict and hate. Pic related: Muslims praying in the streets of Paris, making everybody hate them even more. If they did that in Shitskinistan, nobody would care.
>>67818244
I stopped paying attention to him when he made that video saying its okay to say the word "nigger" when referring to a black man, regardless of familiarity
>>67823002
The year is 2150
The west will be completely individualistic, Swedish-like State individualism will be the official ideology. Virtually all earnings will be given to the government, which will have the singular task of ensuring the maximum amount of free expression among the citizenry. Any and all kinds of debauchery will be allowed and encouraged, there will be NO oppressive constraints on the individual, save that he must accept the State as having the monopoly on force and control. Parents will must allow their children to be taught State individualism in school, and must not impose restrictive, archaic, or authoritarian ideals in their children that will contradict their individuality. Otherwise he is free to do whatever he wants.
Meanwhile, China will have certain government restraints on sexual, social, and political activity, it will promote tradition and the preservation of national history and culture, but also low taxes, a market economy, and society will respect the sovereignty of the family and household.
Westerners will call the Chinese communists.
>>67818244
>Sargon of Cuckkad
>based
That's why we send the "refugees"
>>67818244
Caring about your race or culture is not stupid.
>ignoring the fact that the regressive left want to the white race to dissapear.
Its not a meme, it really is happening. You can already see white males disowning their own gender and race. Walking contradictions, but that's propaganda for you.
>>67824175
A moron's guide to watered down Hegelian dialectics?
The formula is actually rather simple: dead Republicans + dead Democrats = WIN/WIN. The more, the merrier.
>>67823351
You mean the shit-tier commie economy that was burning itself to the ground and had to resort to barbaric pillaging like they did to ancient Rome just to stay around?
Fucking retards. Pick up an actual book on Economcics. Oh, riiiight, it's all by the Jews. They cannot possibly be right about anything ever.
>>67824845
He's not meant to be particularly intelligent actually. I don't see how it's "watered-down", what more is there to it?
And that's really all dependent on who actually comes out on top, specifically who starts it and how.
>>67823000
The day of the Hussar can't come soon enough. This time Danzig has to save us. Also, check'd.
>>67818244
>got popular bashing literally who
>has done nothing else since
Yeah, I care what he has to say about anything ever.
>>67818244
sargon confirmed for not knowing how ingroup and outgroups work
>>67824175
damn, i wish i talked to ceaser at some point. thats actually solid insight on those political systems.
dictatorships are not as bad as they're made out to be. a dictatorship is just bad with a bad dictator. if you get the right one in power its the best form of government. the most effective by far.
>>67824528
>Statsindividualism is an ideology founded on an alliance between the state on one hand and a free individual on the other side. The State individualistic principle grew strong in Sweden during the 1960s and 1970s through reforms like the introduction of särbeskattningen , the construction of kindergartens and nursery schools , general education grant system , changes in family law and a radicalized family policy . The relationship between the state and the individual within the ideology presupposes and reinforces both a strong individualism and a strong state, which means that citizens have a stronger relationship to the state for their freedom and their livelihood, health and care than she has in their own family circumstances or civil society . According to the historian of ideas Peter Antman is "getting welfare states are equally consistently built around the idea of individual autonomy as Sweden. Almost all of our welfare system is linked to the individual, not to the family or to work that is so common in other Western countries."
>Proponents of statsindividualism believes that such reforms that frees individuals from personal dependencies of civil society - such as other individuals, private institutions , family and charities - are preferred; When the government takes greater responsibility by, for example, unemployment benefits and public health insurance the individual becomes freer. Critics of statsindividualism believe that this is a form of socialism and liberalism , combined to undermine the family and civil society, thereby making people more dependent on the state. During Almedalsveckan 2012 spoke example, the Christian Democrats party leader Goran Hagglund strongly opposed statsindividualism and to strengthen civil society instead.
>The State individualist ideology that has dominated political life in Sweden since the 1960s has meant that Swedish people are individualistic to a greater extent than what is common in the Western world
>>67818244
Sargon is a cuckold.
>White interests don't exist.
When there are more indians, asians and muslims in London than whites, then white interests do exist. Our nations are being invaded and our leaders are encouraging it. Meanwhile white communities are being taken advantage of by groups like Black Lives Matter. White people gave up prioritising white interests in the 60s and 70s in order to make a better world in the hopes that other ethnicities would do the same, but they didn't, they mistook kindness for weakness and started pushing their racial issues even harder, and now the white race is in jeopardy.
>>67818244
Agree with OP about a 1000%. The only reason white nationalism is even in the conversation is as a reaction the leftist's identity politics.
Don't forget, it was white people who put Obama in the white house. Thanks to divisional politics, we won't do that again.
>>67821163
kek
>>67824097
He's also partly a nigger
>>67825096
What more is there to Hegelian dialectics? Are you fucking serious? Thesis/Antithesis/Synthesis is the standard watered down "summary" of Hegelian dialectics, so that the degenerates who cannot understand anything that is not in meme-form can feel like they got something from not reading the Phenomenology.
In any case, the question right now is not who comes out on top, it is: how can we ensure that the subhuman garbage in the Republican and Democrat parties do the right thing, and begin killing each other in large numbers?
>>67825870
Make Ted Cruz President?
>>67825376
Yes, but the game also makes point that his successors have significantly different ideologies and lack a lot of experience. Although, his whole synthesis plan might be lost in the process if they're actually competent in running the Legion (not letting inside influence in) before inevitably collapsing.
>>67825870
That didn't answer my question.
How it's initiated is still a problem because it will affect the outcome. Besides the whole, you know, horribly immoral thing about it.
>>67825078
did i talk highly about them in any way? did i praise nazi germany? did i say hitler did nothing wrong?
fucking autist i simply said that's an example of collectivism without being leftist.
>calling their economy shit tier disregarding one of the strongest economic turnounds in history. BEFORE war
>resort to barbaric pillaging like they did to ancient Rome just to stay around
its painfully obvious you dont know WW2 or you wouldnt be regurgitating bullshit you probably heard from another pseudo intellectual.
impying the war kept their economy going is ridiculous. for the industry it created the war costs were absoultely massive. you know how hard it is to maintain logistics around all of europe and into russia? its not cheap dumbass. especially when you are losing literal tons of equipment and men on the field that have to be replaced.
>>67825986
Personally, I think Trump vs. Clinton, with a contested GOP convention, has the best possible chances for reigning in mass political violence between the supporters of the parties. Which is why I support Trump and Clinton.
>>67818244
no person is truly turstworthy unless they dare to point out jews
>>67826072
Horribly immoral thing about what?
>>67826072
which is a convenient way to make them less appealing as a faction. listening to ceaser in that video talking about his future plans and thinking ahead. its hypocritical for him to not think ahead about his replacement.
>>67826377
What about people who point out wannabe Jews like Donald Trump, with his Jew daughter and Jew grandchildren?
>>67818244
How are black and gay interests illegitimate?
Also check em
>>67826175
No, it was very clearly leftist.
Again, it's called pillaging. When you literally take resources from others, that's how you can keep going even with the astronomical costs of warfare. It is literally better than running into Stagflation and repeating Weimar.
Though Hitler didn't really care about the German people anyway, he even said that they deserved to die. In the end his real goal was the annihilation of the Soviets, and though he failed, that was an admirable goal. Still, to imply that his kamikaze-like attack was in any way a sound economic policy or some kind of mythical "third way" when a simple look at the facts would say otherwise.
>>67825595
DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIVES DAUGHTER EVER AGAIN
>>67818244
Agreed. Identity politics needs to die as soon as fucking possible.
The only identity that matters is the nation.
>>67825773
so he claims. tbqh im sure its bullshit he says to lend himself credibility. its just like how white americans talk about being native american despite having literally >1% DNA thats native
>>67818244
Nonsensical*
Does anyone take this delusional nonwhite kitsch-peddler seriously? You guys know his knowledge of history is comparable or inferior to the average second year university student's, right?
>>67820482
>>67820482
its a sad they to say this is a good post
when it actually should be basic knowlage of politics
/pol/ is pretty shit at real politics
>>67819527
>mfw red-pilled centrist
I'M SORRY I CAN'T AGREE TO YOUR ORTHODOXY 100% OK?!?!
In all seriousness I am radically FOR certain elements of the right wing, and also FOR a select parts of the left (in principle) to keep things from degrading into a world ran by El Ratos or the Chinese.
I also have thought Sargon was a cuck as soon as I saw that Mudslime apologist shit he pulled.
>wife's son
>>67826407
Manipulating people into killing each other so we can restart the government from the ground up?
>>67826496
You are meant to be his replacement, actually. Lanius is too blatantly barbaric and Vulpes doesn't hold the moral restrictions of the Legion. The Courier shows both cunning and will on his little trip through the Mojave. Also, it just highlights how truly arrogant Caesar is; he thinks it will all happen naturally.
>>67818244
He's a quadroon.
European countries should be European and nothing else.
In an American setting, black interests are a real thing.
>>67818244
This faggot is worse than SJW's
>>67818244
Pretty much agree, I don't give a shit what color you are as long as you aren't a Muslim or anti-American
>>67819346
Sargon's point is that all racial supremacy is bullshit, and that we shouldn't look at people through the paradigm of race. It's a very classical liberal position which falls in line with his political views. I think you missed what Sargon is saying entirely.
Who says "white interests" anyway?
>>67826797
Manipulating people would be immoral. But we aren't talking about people. We are talking about the degenerate subhuman garbage that make up and support the Republican and Democrat parties. Plus, they already want to kill one another. They just need to be encouraged to take the next step.
>>67826625
this.
we should support our families, friends and country. Everything else is bullshit distraction used to divide a country to make it easier to concur it
>>67826797
Is it immoral to exterminate a cockroach infestation? Or to remove a cancerous tumor? That is what the Republicans and Democrats and their supporters are. They are degenerate subhuman trash that needs to be incinerated.
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>>67823751
Dutch kids are thought from birth they need to work to earn shit. We all get jobs at age 14. None of us expects to receive cars or iPhones, and if we did, our parents would thinks us to be filthy greedy papists.
Get your protestant work ethic in order, America.
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next.
>>67818857
you build america did you? must have been hard work. Oh, wait, most of the people who played key roles in its development were a similar shade to you? Well, pat yourself on the back anyway, great job on being pale my man!
>>67826929
>Muslim or anti-American
redundant
>>67827015
Everyone's a person and everyone can change. I think we should just make our own country instead of hurting others to get our way (you know, if we actually did do shit like this.)
>>67827141
Calm the edge, man.
>>67819527
>>67819527
do you retards actually think this isnt happening already?
this whole site was a fucking centrist mess back in 08 with "muh libertarian" insted of being "muh anarchy"
and now you are doing the same with collectivism "muh nationalism", insted of pure collectivism
its because most people think in terms of muddy ideologies and misrepresentation
thats also why political debate never ends.
Atleast philosophy started using science
we will need to wait a few years before politics start using the same principles
>>67818857
you didn't accomplish anything personally, stop taking credit for what they've done. Also most of america was built by the chinese, mexicans, etc., just designed by whites.
>>67818244
>large number of Mexicans literally refer to themselves as "La Raza"
>Chinese and Japanese call all outsiders "barbarians"
>Africans call foreigners devils in many different languages
>Muslims call non-Muslims kuffar
>"It's just silly for white people to think of themselves as a group :^) "
>>67819674
>>67820099
lol, finns are basically asians
>>67827380
Subhuman or cuck detected
>>67821387
>those poorly cut nails
just like the shut-in autists in my comp sci classes. did Hitler have bad hygiene?
>>67826625
>>67827135
In an ideal world, yes but this will NEVER happen and as long as a handful of groups play by the identity game they will cuck the shit out of everyone else. Its just human nature to look after your "own" insert whatever concept you want there.
Trying to take the moral high-ground and act above the race, religion, culture, wealth, status ect game just puts you at a disadvantage trying to fight your enemies with one hand tied behind your back.
>>67827380
>america
>white
Europe however, my man,was built by whites and whites only. And our collective economy is bigger that the USAs.
>>67827232
Mistake #1: believing that racial differences end with skin color
Mistake #2: implying that American whites shouldn't defend their own interests because you insist that nonwhites had a role in building America
Mistake #3: Implying that it is bizarre or nonsensical to take pride in one's ancestors
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are fucked. This Britcuck probably considers himself red-pilled. He's on /pol/, so he most likely considers himself further right than most, and yet he apparently believes that whites should allow nonwhites to defend their interests allowing their own interests to be neglected.
We are so fucked.
>>67827463
It's stupid for anyone to think like that.
>>67827250
The point is, actual Americans don't need to do much of anything, not yet at least. All we have to do is urge them on, get them to take the next small step toward violence, raise the level of tension, escalate every situation, they are already at one another's throats. If they can be pushed to engage in mass political violence, real Americans can only benefit as the cockroach infestation exterminates itself. Eventually though, actual Americans will have to step in to mop up whatever garbage of them is leftover and send it to the incinerator.
Sargon is a fucking moron
>LE CULTURE MAYMAY
Germany populated by niggers will be Somalia not Germany no matter how much "culture" niggers get
>>67827592
Are you a woman or are you gay? Only bitches and fags notice shit like that. What next, gonna comment on his shoes you fucking faggot?
>>67818244
this isn't based at all, fuck off faggot
>>67818244
>german OP
ahahahahahahaah
>>67827641
But they all do. And there's obviously a great number of advantages to it, despite all memeing to the contrary.
Sargon is probably literally actually retarded.
>>67826175
nazi germany was "very clearly lefitist" oh boy. take that to a bernie sanders subreddit and see how many disagree with you. they were right leaning with left economics.
>Again, it's called pillaging
pillaging does NOT sustain an industry or an economy you are grasping at straws (more likely just regurgitating a friends BS argument)
the german economy made a full recovery and prospered well before the war took off. you dont know what youre talking about mate just stop pretending. hell dont even take my word for it just google the facts on this one.
>Though Hitler didn't really care about the German people anyway
this is completely contratdictory to everything the man did. regardless of how much you or anyone hates him denying that he cared about germany is ridiculous.
>he even said that they deserved to die
misleading. and i assume you dont know what he was talking about in context by saying that.
> In the end his real goal was the annihilation of the Soviets
no retard. jesus stop pulling things out of your ass. the end goal was more land and resources for a growing german population and the soviets. (by extention everyone inbetween like baltic states, ukraine ect) were to be "germanized" not exterminated.
> that was an admirable goal.
how is exterminating soviets an admiral goal?
> his kamikaze-like attack
your history is so off i really hope this is bait.
every general and pretty much every country assumed it was going to be an easy german victory. the soviets military seemed second rate after getting slaughtered by finland in the winter war. and germany just proved themselves by kicking france and polands ass. the soviets were thought (by everyone) to have FAR less armaments than they had.
>>67818244
What's wrong with caring about the interests of a subset of people if those interests are legitimate?
>>67818244
White supremacism and "white" nationalism are two different subjects you febrile voiced mongoloid skulled nigger.
Is he even trying to make sense of what he says ?
>>67827641
So non-whites are stupid then; everyone BUT whites have this ethnic cohesion.
>>67827142
I was waiting for someone to post this.
Sargon is a huge cuck.
>>67827625
stop talking about 'we' you minge, just coz you and genghis khan both had pubes doesn't mean you can take credit for conquering china.
youre a worthless degenerate turd who has accomplished nothing and contributed nothing, pretending that being part of some meaningless group stops you less than rat shit might prevent you from commiting suicide but it doesn't stop you from being less than rat shit.
>>67827661
This is an interesting although somewhat fucked up concept. Let's brainstorm on how to do this!
1. How would you attract members?
2. How would you keep said members safe when it goes down.
3. Which side would you coax into a fight?
4. And how?
5. Would you send your followers in after the initial war to kill any remnants?
6. What kind of system would you put into place?
>>67827914
Basically.
>>67827806
National/Political ideology > Racial identity.
>>67827821
>>67825078
linked the wrong post.
Fuck alt-right namefags like this. If anyone is like an SJW, it's him. attention-seeking narcissistic faggot
don't let faggots like this try to steer the boat by giving them any credibility
>>67818244
>Sargon
>Based
Choose one and only one
>>67827551
They really are
>>67828020
It's "because" you inbred faggot. On the topic of the "meaningless group" you refer to, which I'm assuming is white Europeans and their descendants (White Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc.), refer to my first post. You offer no counter arguments, just poorly-constructed insults, the kind which I'd expect from a thirteen year-old. No - a very stupid thirteen year-old.
>>67827903
This Frenchman has better English than you.
Kill yourself, m8
>>67818244
>yes goy, there is no such thing as race
>don't breed with the white race!
>because there is no such thing as race
>>67819014
>stormfag neo-fascist hostile to the very notion of applying intelligence to politics
Reminder that fascism has historically embraced cringe-occultism, viewed rationality as sedition, and censored and killed the intelligentsia.
>I'm a neo-volkisch neckbeard enamored by political violence and genocide, and those Libertarians are so autistic and in the clouds
>>67828347
>white sjws look after the interests of those who hate them
>white nationalists look after their own interests
It really isn't hard to grasp the difference here
>>67819014
collectivism is a mental disease
>>67828465
nah you're just a yid
>>67828465
you sound triggered m8. u should get back to ur safe space
>>67828359
>no counter arguments
wow, you're retarded! And we're both white! So I must be retarded too!
>>67828570
>mexico
KEK you guys could use some collectivism besides drug cartels. why is your country so shit pedro?
>>67818244
if you are white, and you give "Sargon" shekels, kill yourself.
>>67822627
>I'll call him a cuck
>oh no! he called me cuck too! whatever did i to deserve this fate?
>>67818244
>Last name is Benjamin
>Hates white people
>>67818244
> He has a point.
Yeah, this is why prussians die out and bayern and shwabland are repopulated with shitskin crowds.
Boo-hoo, we have a conflict here, so lets just fucking nuke eachother for the glory the shitskins.
I dont even care really anymore about your elites, besides some people i know personally. Just take all your anglo shit back from our lands and do your shitfest at home, so we can restore Prussian towns on Volga and let good people live there.
>>67828091
1) Attract members to what? This isn't starting a club. The point is to push Republicans and Democrats toward mass political violence against one another. Anyone who understands why these cockroaches need to be exterminated can participate in whatever way they see fit.
2) After Republicans and Democrats begin killing each other, it will be up to people to decide how they will get by. If you are in a Democrat-leaning area, anyone could help by rounding up Republicans, and vice versa.
3) The point is that Republicans and Democrats are already at each other's throats, and already want to kill one another. They just need to be encouraged to act on their true impulses.
4) They are already itching to fight one another. All it takes is a spark to start an explosion, in any situation.
5) As I said, eventually people will have to go in to mop up whatever garbage is left of the party supporters and send them to the incinerator.
6) That is up to the people to decide.
>>67828729
mexico is more collectivist than america you stupid fuck
>>67828608
wow, that is convincing and conclusive evidence. you should send that into a scientific journal, I'm sure they'll publish it.
>>67818244
Sargon of Cuck
>>67827251
The nationalism is a development on top of libertarianism.
Most people just realised that either racial conciousness and survival is more important than staying consistent with classical libertarianism and they abandoned it altogether for NatSoc, or they realised libertarianism only works with white people and they're just in favour of strong borders.
>>67828091
>National/Political ideology > Racial identity.
This is where I ask for proof, as white identity played a massive part in why European empires were so successful at conquering and colonizing. It was also the primary reason Europe stayed Europe instead of Al-Europa, or some other name.
This is in contrast to the national system, which has existed for only 100-200 years in many places, and seems to be teetering on collapse, especially in Europe.
Nation states seem to be inherently unstable :^) Especially democracies.
>>67822210
>the real problem is fascist cops, which affects everyone! That's why opposition based on black chauvanism is OK, but reacting to anti white sentiment is wrong because of reasons! (you problematic shitlord!)
>>67828587
>everyone who doesn't LARP as an SS officer or get beaten down by civil authority when his fantasies breach into reality - all those people much be Jews! There surely isn't any extant political traditions besides neo-nazi fascism and zionism
>>67828865
wow, that is convincing and conclusive evidence. you should send that into a scientific journal, I'm sure they'll publish it.
>>67828927
ouch! how the great have falled, once he was based, now he is cuck.
god you people disgust me
"white nationalism" is a meme
like, what's the face of white nationalism? skinheads? david duke? it's a befouled ideology that only self unaware idiots cling to.
whites need something new to cling to for the sake of self-preservation. white nationalism is dead. the jews made sure of it.
>>67818244
He really doesnt. I'm not a white nationalist but I completely understand their motives. They want to preserve their culture, heritage, way of life and environment they live in. Thats hard to do when your area/nation/whatever is being swamped with foreign and invasive cultures that drive the quality of life down for the citizens.
>>67829044
leave it to beady eyes to be eternally cucked
>>67827232
>>67827380
>comparing waging war for the country and planning every facet of civilization to physical labor
Cmon son.
He's right. At the core, there's no problem with wanting to continue your race or stand up for your country but in the hands of the wrong people (the common folk) they twist it and take it to the extreme. You can't follow this ideology b/c it attracts and is comprised of the worst individuals.
>>67827821
>they were right leaning with left economics.
That's all the leftist trash I need, you goddamn commie.
>pillaging does NOT sustain an industry or an economy you are grasping at straws
It does when you steal all of their resources. I don't think you even know what I mean by 'pillaging', do you? Taking assets of others is pillaging.
I don't really care to 'argue' with some retard who can't even invest enough effort to capitalize his own posts and regurgitates his miracle talk. As I said - try actually reading economics.
>>67828849
mexican do you know what collectivism is?
>>67819346
Tell me, where is the nation of "White" located?
Lumping all whites together, and what the fuck even is whites, is dumb as fuck and serves no purpose to anyone but cultureless people who base their identity around their skin color.
>>67819014
You're right, but so is Sargon
>>67828793
>"heh, he called me a cuck, time to derail the conversation by taking the insult to its literal definition that clearly isn't being used here and then when I get called out for derailing I'm just going to call them cucks, heh."
>>67829225
>That's all the leftist trash I need, you goddamn commie.
me, a commie. top kek
pillaging for resources (which you are HIGHLY overestimating) is temporary. that does not keep and industry going. its like im talking to an autist that just got out of middle school shouldn't you be doing homework?
>>67828833
1) Well, I thought you would be starting some sort of post-war cult.
2) Welp.
3) Well, then, how would you encourage them?
4) Same thing here.
5) Welp.
6) So it'll be probably be a democracy? What's the point of getting rid of the old structure if you don't have a new one in mind?
>>67828948
There are honestly a lot of factors to this. Expanding did help Europe and while race helped with that, but so did religion. Expanding is good during early development but they begin to collapse if you don't separate and self-govern. Democracies have more freedom which can lead to less stability; dictatorships can make stupid decisions too and they are, in fact, slightly more inclined to.
>>67825690
I know white leftist who want to see their own people reduced in number and power because for them the supremacy of the left is more important.
>>67819014
>being against individualism
>all these posts agreeing
What happened to this board, is it all edgy neo-nazis now
>>67823751
>I'm a radical and ignore all opposing views, that means I'm right!
>>67826625
A nation full of other ethnic cultures who do not give a fuck about or have any allegiance to the nation..identity is everything.
>>67823751
I want to slap each and every one of these disrespectful little fucks in the face.
If I ever had a child that posted this shit up on social media, the only thing they'd ever get from me from that point on was the shit the state says I need to supply.
>>67829557
seeing the middle ground makes me a neo-nazi wew lad
does this board need the definition of collectivism?
>>67829264
the preponderance of the collective over the individual, Mexico has been a collectivist country since its very start and only became more so when it became tainted by communism.
>>67829437
>im going to insult him
>how dare he not take the argument seriously anymore!?
No enemies to the right you quadroon pommie cunt
You can disagree with the 1488ers all you want, but as soon as you attack them from the left you reveal yourself as just another basic bitch cuckservative.
Even faggots like the left understand this. You'll never here a faggot SJW socialist condemning FULL COMMUNISM retards because they're "going too far". Even they can recognise that trying to win your enemy over by alienating your extreme allies only fractures your base and allows your enemies to keep conflating you all as extremists
Also plenty of things are blatant White interests, like the obvious example of reduced non-white immigration into white Western nations.
>>67827232
>>67827380
>Not allowed to be proud of your heritage
Stay cucked
>>67829774
but wait, Mother Nature got a map of Maryland lol that sucks
>>67829797
eh, good point
>>67829777
What middle-ground? You are either a collectivist or an individualist, there is no middle-ground, only different shades of each position
>>67829512
How to encourage them? Depends where you are and what the context is. For example, there are tons of conservatives who would love to beat/kill some liberal or whatever, and vice versa, but they are not necessarily going to act on it. If you know someone like this, you could bring them to counter-protest a rally that will get them really fired up and angry. Counter-protests in general help to raise tensions and the level of antagonism and the possibility of violence.
What's the point? What's the point of removing a cancerous tumor? What's the point of exterminating a cockroach infestation?
>>67829161
A pervasive anti-white ideology generates a common interest among whites, and anyone who despises racism. National interests and "white interests" are orthogonal.
>>67829797
if you know the definition you should also know neither is inherently bad. mexico isnt shit because of collectivists. regardless of how "commie" your government is. just because they are supposed to work together in theory doesn't mean they are doing it.
>>67818244
How about Jewish Nationalism aka Israel?
Whites are just as diverse as Jews and the Ashkenazi live side by side with Sephardi as just "jews".
>>67830056
I'm just saying, darling, you should have an idea for a new system if you're going to eliminate the old one.
>>67818244
SO EVERYONE IS A RACIST? OMG WHO CARES WE KNOW WE'RE ALL OUT FOR OUR OWN KIND FUCK OFF
WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE BEST
>>67830182
It is inherently unreasonable, and bad only most of the time.
>>67828948
>>67829512
Here's proof that ethnocentric cooperation (which is a strong racial identity) > altruism/individualism
http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html
>>67827380
fuck this argument, be proud of your family and blood you self-hating faggot. "hurr why should i be proud my family fucked in this land?" god u sound like an obnoxious nominalist atheist
>>67830228
They live in a different environment. They don't have other races to account for unlike our country.
>>67829950
>finland plz.
collectivism :the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
indivudualism: the habit or principle of being independent and self-reliant.
people are part of both on a daily basis. everyone is. just being part of a country is a collectivist. having your own way of doing something is individualism. trying to paint this as black and white is retarded as fuck tbqh
>>67830497
>They don't have other races to account for
yeah they do, the arabs all around them.
Israel is an explicitly Jewish state, replace "jewish" with "white" and you have what white nationalists want.
>>67830417
I never mentioned altruism or individualism. I'd just much rather prefer a political or ideological identity, does that study account for that?
>>67830450
It's good to be proud of your country and family's accomplishments but in the end, they are not your accomplishments. If it's not inspiring you to accomplish something then it's pointless to go around and claiming "my people did these things".
>>67818244
if he were american i could understand, but you eurocucks need to learn to defend your racial homelands
ISRAEL DOES DNA TESTS ON THE PEOPLE MOVING TO THEIR COUNTRY TO SEE IF THEY REALLY ARE JEWISH
MEANWHILE IN AMERICA AIPAC AND FRIENDS SELL THE VIRTUES OF MULTICULTURALISM AND ANTI RACISM
WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY ARE UP TO WITH THESE SHENANIGANS?
WHITE NATIONALISM IS STUPID BUT JEWISH NATIONALISM IS OK?
>>67826974
It's archaic line of thought that does not work in the age of multiculturalism.
>>67830342
dude. having a family is a collectivist thing. do you not fully grasp the meaning of the word? if english is your second language its forgivable but jesus dude. collectivism and individualism are not restrained to politics. they are just describing individual vs collective (group) effort. or ideas.
>>67830623
It's not black and white, I don't think you know what that saying means
>different shades of each position
Everybody will always lean more towards one than another, it is literally impossible to be in the middle. And each issue has to be looked separately, not lump everything together. That, if anything, is looking at things as black and white
>>67829827
This.
More than that, current politics requires white racial consciousness. Sorry! When you have leftists actively insisting white people should be exterminated on the basis they are white, then it's impossible not to react to it and think of yourselves in white racial terms. My personal survival and the survival of others is in jeopardy by ignoring the reality that others want me dead on the basis of my skin color. Popular media and politics, and even economics, are also stacked against me on the basis of my skin color. How can I not think of a "white people" as a group, when my enemies place me in that group whether I want it or not?
Your libertardian individualistic idealistic horseshit won't save you from the guillotine, people.
They're coming for you no matter how centrist you try to be.
Look how quickly BLM threw out its "white allies".
Look how quickly the media applauded the move.
>>67830680
you will never find more inspiration to do good than when you are doing it in honor of someone else (FAMILY IS A GOOD START) instead of doing it for your own self-satisfaction like a child. people who pride themselves in their family and heritage understand this, to feel they are connected to something greater outside their own little life
>>67830674
No, but based on the study the ideology should be ethnocentric if you want successful group outcomes.
the dominant ideologies in the West are altruistic/humanitarian; what's worse is that they're altruistic/humanitarian to groups with ethnocentric ideologies/cultures.
>>67830888
That's Israel. That's not our country. If you look at your country, and think about implementing a lot of these race policies, answer honestly. Would they work? Why or why not? We know the answer why. So therefore doing what they do to accomplish a racial goal doesn't work.
>>67830680
>If it's not inspiring you to accomplish something then it's pointless to go around and claiming "my people did these things".
>It's good to be proud of your country and family's accomplishments
contradicting yourself m8
>>67831164
I dunno', man. I just don't want countries to become expansionist and dabble in eugenics (well, anything eugenics-related besides keeping breeding to your own race.) I'd just want to keep nations isolationist.
>>67831230
KEKSERVATIVES HOLD ISRAEL AS THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH SECOND ONLY TO THE USA (SOMETIMES) YET THEY REACT VERY NEGATIVELY TO THE IDEA OF ISRAELI IDEAS APPLIED TO AMERICA
IT SEEMS THEY'VE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THEIR JEWISH MASTERS TO HOLD A DOUBLE STANDARD THAT ONLY FAVORS JEWISH PEOPLE
IT MAKES SENSE THAT JEWISH PEOPLE WOULD MANIPULATE OTHERS THIS WAY BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM, WHY DO THE STUPID GOY HAVE TO FALL FOR IT.
>>67819946
>>67819674
>posting the same jewish divide and conquer
I'm on to your tricks merchant
>>67831145
but the problem with white nationalists is that they don't actually do anything but spread their hateful rhetoric. No actions are actually taken by them to correct any of the problems.
>>67831164
>Western values are altruistic to ethnocentric cultures
Bingo. Even that could be sustained if the West prioritised humanitarian concerns above all, but it doesn't anymore, so it's not.
Nationalism is just a feeling, its not logical, its not necessary, it will eventually disappear, stuff changes, and the extortion scheme called nation is frail when it comes to it.
>>67831027
>It's not black and white, I don't think you know what that saying means
you misread my comment or misunderstood me. either way. finland plz
>Everybody will always lean more towards one than another, it is literally impossible to be in the middle.
to be perfectly divided on individual vs collective ideas and actions? yeah probably not going to happen. that's irrelevant considering it isn't what i said. i simply said middle ground.
anyone who claims that individualism or collectivism are inherently bad either doesn't understand the words or is genuinely retarded.
that's like saying i cant enjoy room temperature i have to prefer 200 degrees or 0.
>>67831791
lol brazil is a shithole because of niggers and mudbloods.
>>67831627
That's their country, not ours. Whatever the hell they want to do, is up to them. But for our country, we have to employ different strategies because of the make up of our country.
>>67830973
individually caring about each member of your family is individualism, forcing every person to care for their family no matter what is collectivism.
>>67818244
There is such thing as genetic ethnic interests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Genetic_Interests
I too believed race didn't matter until I read Frank Salter.
>>67831844
Nobody has claimed either one of those are inherently bad that is a straw man. Just that they are mutually exclusive positions and you will always, always lean towards one position over the other regardless of the issue at hand. And hopefully lean towards the same one more often than not if you want to be consistent with your beliefs
>>67832005
>That's their country, not ours.
America pays for Israel, without the American tax payer there would be no Israel.
>>67831791
It's the opposite. A nation with a strong inward central focus and identity can become extremely powerful. A la, USA, British Empire, Germany, Japan, Russia, even the original Caliphate.
Nations that don't have an inward focus and a drive to improve become stagnant shithole backwards countries, like nearly everything in South America/Africa/Middle East.
Singapore as a more powerful economy and military than most African nations, and it's an ISLAND. That's the power of nationalism.
>>67818244
Sargon can't hold any conversation against someone decently intelligent. All he can do is rail against batshit crazy feminists and low tier niggers to please his "MGTOW" and "redpill" audience.
jesus people seem to missing the fuck point.
jews are fine with Israel doing DNA tests to make sure that their inhabitants are racially pure.
then the same jews that support Israel claim racism is morally wrong in any and all situations.
they have a dishonest double standard with is really the standard for jews and part of why they have always been hated.
>>67832016
biased examples to fit your weakening narrative.
family struggling for income all pitches in on work effort to help the family. collectivism
a father leaving the family for a hotter wife and leaving the kids. individualism.
i can also used biased examples too.
>>67832330
He's just naive and his negro ancestry doesn't help.
