Marriage rates are declining amongst millenials, degeneracy is spreading and worsening, the nuclear family is dying and no one at a large seems to care. What can someone who wants a traditional woman to bear his children do about this?
This isn't new at all.
The writing has been on the wall since the 80's. People needed to do something then and they didn't, so adios.
>>67816479
People just don't want to believe that it's them at the end of the day. It's not the drinks THEY have, or the multiple partners THEY fuck, or the degeneracy in THEIR lives, it's always outward, never the actions in their own lives.
Get a prenup and hope you don't still get fucked in court.
>>67817408
Why even get married at all then if its so risky? Just be gf/bf or domestic partners
>>67816479
Marriage isn't what it used to be.
>>67817534
Depending on what state/country you live in, there's also commonlaw marriage bullshit.
I had my degen stage from 22-25 after college, did blow, traveled, got bottles, banged random chicks
I was always private about it and used a rubber.
Now I'm married and can't stand being around the annoying young 20s crowd
>>67817682
Well Im in cali so I'm ok from that
>>67816479
You must search tradi woman in traditional environment like church or rural area
And if you find someone you must be alpha to keep her
If she is a respectable woman, she deserve a real man
>>67816479
>I want a brand new car
>oh but this used model is just as good
>no thanks I want to be the first owner
>OMG FUCK YOU
=^)
>>67816479
i bet she doesnt give the ass before first date
>>67816479
Just become a Mormon fundamentalist and get 5 qt wives
>>67818563
Is that why your women all jump black cock? Because they are real men
>>67816479
Yawn get the fuck off 4chan grandpa
Wait for the collapse and rescue a live one
>>67820287
Confirmed Cuck
Lol what's the point of marriage? At max a romantic relationship can sustain a decade. I mean sure if you've got kids, but they are just a waste of money.
I'm single currently and fuck club slags at the weekend or women i met through work or tinder. There is nothing wrong with having sex and enjoying it.
I'm 25 and the only person i know from my age range that has a mortgage.
>>67820464
>Marriage is based on romance
Fucking millenials
>wanting to get married
I just want to live together with someone I love forever without getting the law involved.
Convince me otherwise. I'm not religious so don't bother going down that avenue.
>>67820215
nah, niggers are just fetishized like the greasers and rockers etc of the 50s
>>67820550
I have a maid to do the cleaning and I can cook by myself. I've got girls that i can easily fuck to fufill any desires or sexual needs. Why do i need a marriage? To emotionally support some cunt? To wait for my assets to be divided ina divorce? To wait to be cucked?
I'd die before i get married
>>67820589
> he wants to be a negative example to his children
lol americans are fucking trash. Even the ones on /pol/ are either retarded or semi-ok.
I think millennials are lost and confused with all the freedom.
They don't know responsibility.
They want "things" but don't desire to learn about how to care for "things", or are not willing to sacrifice or reason with "things".
It's like a retard who lives in an apartment asking for a pet horse, he has this grand delusion that the horse will be happy and healthy in his 2 bed room apartment. He buys the horse and this thing shits, pisses everywhere, destroys the apartment than keels over and dies from starvation.
Then the person complains he is entitled to having what he wants and the world owes him, so he seeks out to find another horse and does the same thing again.
Millennials will truly wake up when the nation collapses and all the welfare disappears.
>>67820550
The romantic brainwashing has been going on for far longer than just millennials. It started in the late 1800s as arranged marriage was dying due to wage labor and industrialization
>>67820948
>it's a leaf post
World War III
No, I'm not trying to be edgy or one of those "IT'S HAPPENING!" spergs.
It's been proven time and time again that western values flourish after times of great war and crisis. After World War 2, the Nuclear Family was born during the Cold War, which was the after effect of World War 2.
It's been recorded time and time again that many progressive movements (AKA, what we are dealing with now.) completely fall apart in times of war, because the reality of war wakes people up.
We see it even now. Degenerates on social media try and project tolerance for muslims, and many other "progressive liberal" movements. But once a war starts, a real war, something as big was World War 3, they start to feel the effect at home. Liberal men who signed up to vote will be drafted, and progressive liberals will finally realize that using hashtags and words to try and prove a point is meaningless in the wake of death and destruction. Meanwhile, America will flourish as the economy booms, since America is driven off of war. After the war, soldiers will return, battle hardened just like they were back in WW2. They will realize that what they were doing was baby tier shit and will drop it, and since females can't do shit without men (Who will now be independent from their time in the military), they will follow.
It's like a dam see? The dam is civilization. The water inside is society. Civilization holds society, but after a while, with no fresh water to wash it out, it turns black. Once war breaks Civilization, aka the crack that causes the dam to collapse, society will be washed away, but in its place comes a new dam, and a new, fresh lake of water.
It's almost like a pendulum. And as of now, with the escalation in the middle east and rising tensions, it is now swinging back, and once it is half way, war breaks out, and then soon, it will swing to the right, bringing culture and renewed values.
Do not lose hope.
>>67821428
Wrong.
The world wars directly contributed to the rise in female liberation and the destruction of the West and push into consumerism and the careerism that killed morals.
The nuclear family was just the first step toward destruction. Americans were just being kept happy with money comfort and entertainment in the 50s.
Meanwhile look at the Amish. They opted out of all wars even the civil war and have stronger families than most people
>>67821428
>it turns black
fucking blacks ruin everything
Go read the marriage laws. Till those are fixed, fuck off. Thanks.
>>67821428
> No, I'm not trying to be edgy or one of those "IT'S HAPPENING!" spergs.
It's because the world separates the men and women from the boys and girls.
The welfare queen tears will flood the streets.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for low cost health care and even free open healthcare depending on what is being treated.
But people are actually relying on the exploitation of the welfare system and abusing such systems.
It's like giving someone $10,000 annual to help them with transportation and food but instead they spend it on designer clothing, drugs and parties.
>>67820550
Found Mr. Collins.
>>67816479
>I'm not your typical girl
If I had a dollar for every time I've heard this I'd probably be able to buy a trophy wife. Every woman legitimately believes they are completely unique when they're all the exact same. They're all the same even right down to thinking they're each unique
>>67816479
the fact that her face is blurred is a huge red flag. However, I have a thing for preggos so idk
>>67821428
Did you forget that baby boomers were born after WWII?
>>67820370
>wait for collapse
>not helping to create one so deal with it younger
Pleb
>>67820464
>I'm the only person I know from my age range that is hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt
>>67816479
Do you want to bring children into a world where society may collapse around them?
>>67822484
>>67822484
A typical girl would not drink vodka while preggers
>>67821428
YouTube: Male Scarcity by Turd Flinging Monkey.
He nails the dynamic better.
Modern marriage is a joke.
At this point you're better off waiting for polygamy to return and the following societal collapse.
Strict monogamy with no easy divorce/abortion was perfect. Women are hypergamous naturally gravitate towards harems, leaving the vast majority of men fighting for scraps. Why do you think middle eastern countries are so violent? Because they lack the outlet that the West traditionally had in the form of monogamy.
Of course, a century of feminism and liberalism has undone that. Most men don't care about society any more and why should they? They have nothing to work or battle for.
A century ago this thought wouldn't even have crossed our minds.
>>67821428
Everything went sour AFTER world war 2. Countries like America started accepting cheap labour from Japan, then China. People from Britain's commonwealth traveled over to the UK, same with France. Baby boomers being baby boomers, etc. Oil reserves were being found all over. The economy looked new and exciting back then, but it wasn't meant to last like that. You just like many /pol/acks twist reality to fit your own narrative. You guys need to go outside and smell the roses, literally and figuratively.
>>67823021
600% sure that that is water
>>67823161
>Most men don't care about society any more and why should they? They have nothing to work or battle for.
This is true.
I don't make a ton of money but I have my own place and nice things. I get laid and have even had a few affairs with married women. Ambition in my career is nothing I really think about because I love my job as it stands right now and it gives me everything I need. If I had a wife and child I would probably need to start thinking about pushing for a higher position or switching to another company (which I would probably hate.) And then she's probably just cheating on me with a single guy anyway having seen first hand how married women act..
Tough to get ambitious for the benefit of others when the rewards are the happiness of people who will take advantage of you and treat you like dogshit.
>>67820550
>>67821246
>There are faggots on /pol/ who want arranged marriages back
>There are faggots that think making two people breed based on money is more important than two people breeding because of genetic viability expressed through natural selection.
>>67816479
Thanks Reagan.
>Disregard females
>Focus on career
>Buy sports car
>Stay fit
>Enjoy watching everyone who got married to a millennial whore end up divorced paying alimony
>Enjoy hobbies
Aint even mad, society can suck my fucking fat cock.
>>67825380
Marriage shouldn't be about money either, it should be about family and friendship.
You think 80 years olds who have been married for 60 years still have romance?
>>67816479
None of this matters
Just do what makes you happy and stop worrying about things beyond your control
>>67825621
>wasting money on a sports car
>>67820287
Unless youre in high school or something we're probably about the same age, cuck.
>>67825621
yesss good goyim, don't you dare reproduce, spend all that gold on our products instead
My advice, stop looking on Tinder. Join some FB groups that are unrelated to dating. Meet girls through liking their comments and chatting about things you have in common. Also, stop worrying!!! When its time for you to find somebody, you will.
>>67820287
>>67816479
>a traditional woman to bear his children
don't be selfish. women don't want your children, because you probably are a loser. Men are simply sperm donors. Let her use better sperm, and you'll find a wife to raise children with easily.
>>67825621
It's really sad that this guy's onto something.
People get married before they even know themselves.
>>67816479
>start dating website for those seeking traditional marriages
>make bux
>find purehearted qt
I'd say the time to jump on the idea is now. After Trump gets elected traditional marriage is going to be IN!
heh
>>67825882
>>67816479
>muh nuclear family
fucked up people have always been around, even back then
"nuclear families" still exist chill out
>>67825792
>You think 80 years olds who have been married for 60 years still have romance?
lol no
they fucking hate each other but are just too damn old and afraid of dying alone to do anything about it
>>67816479
>western women
god i love them
>>67826767
>inb4 its full of whales
nigga you already know how this is going to go down
>>67826767
>implying that a dating site specifically for people wanting to be married isn't going to be full of wackos
Most women are fucking retarded losers.
>>67827061
Call me Ahab
![1421894182712[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/u7gRdv9.png "1421894182712[1].png")
>>67816479
Go ahead and look for your 19th century unicorn woman, but otherwise mind your own business. Society doesn't revolve around your personal dating preferences.
>Not your typical girl! XD XD
>Looks like a stereotypical whore in every way.
Fuck marriage and fuck family. Women have forever ruined both concepts. I'm going for maximum degeneracy and I'll laugh as the world burns.
>>67816479
>What can someone who wants a traditional woman to bear his children do about this?
Stop browsing 4chan would be a good start. It does influence your behavior, and it does not attractive traditional women. Because traditional women do not want to bear the children of closeted degenerates. Stick to a few respectable blogs, maybe mpc if you want to participate in a community, and what not. You can stay in the loop without subjecting yourself to this mindrape.
>>67816918
I hope you mean the 1880s and not the 1980s. Nietzsche called the death of marriage in the late 19th century.
It's incredible to read him because he identified that the west was FUCKED even when it was supposedly at the peak of its power.
>>67827539
>wanting to take care of jamals forgotten kid
>involving yourself with someone who makes very poor and costly decisions
has nothing to do with my past dating experiences. It has to do with cucks like you fucking up this nations women. I may be set, but some of my other anons may never be because girls like the one I found are so scarce you have to be damn near perfect yourself to get one. Or lucky
Eat a massive fucking cock you flaming fucking faggot.
>>67827703
well its Tinder, what did you expect ?
>>67825621
>not passing on your genes
If you're gonna take the bachelor approach at least donate your sperm to everyone bank in your country. Even better if you manage to replace everyone else's specimens.
>>67817682
A FUCKING LEAF reporting in.
We have that shit here.
Kill all women.
>>67826940
I don't know what kind of pathetic excuse for a family you came from but my grandparents were each other's best friends.
>>67816479
That's just how it is. Women are choosers. You're still lucky to be living in a mostly monogamous society where starting a family is still a reachable goal for ordinary men if they work hard enough. It's not the case in most of the middle east for sure.
I'm all for stopping this disgusting degeneracy and getting married to the right woman, but these days all women want to empower themselves as a feminist and take advantage of men in general.
My parents divorced when I was 11. It was nice in the beginning of the marriage from what I've been told and observed, but having to deal with arguments and fights every night, taking care of and raising a family while others are travelling the world and enjoying their lives. I'm going to find a woman who doesn't want a thing to do with kids, but even then they all lie so who is to believe?
>>67827760
/thread
>>67828619
Notice just kill all Internet addicts and 4chan users and every problem would be fixed. 4chan lacks self awareness that it's the problem.
>>67825590
what is no-fault divorce?
>>67816479
Go to church and join a bible study.
>Seriously
>>67826841
Not an argument
>>67823161
>Most men don't care about society any more and why should they? They have nothing to work or battle for.
This will soon change. A new age comes.
>>67825792
Yes.
>>67818107
>le hypocrite face :^)
Enjoy hell.
>>67829397
I'd rather stay home and whack off than go to church or be anywhere near cuckstians
I don't know, man.
We live in a time were hedonistic pleasures are in a surplus. One can partake in almost any deviant act, without repercussion or judgement.
Willing women are just a text away and an endless series of short term relationships are de rigeur.
Despite all of this, despite the "pussy", despite every pleasure I'm free to pursue.
I just can't help but get the feeling deep down that something's "off". Things aren't the way they're supposed to be. I feel it, but I can't put it in to words.
>>67816479
you cant do anything. this is a byproduct of a subpar economy over time
to many women became whores and std's are spreading at alarming rates. its over.
>>67829647
Of course you would you fat fuck.
>>67820464
You have no idea what you're talking about, youngling.
>>67829660
>I just can't help but get the feeling deep down that something's "off". Things aren't the way they're supposed to be. I feel it, but I can't put it in to words.
Do you want to know why? Because you, as a very likley child grew up in an environment that, even though weakened still spoke fondly of the nuclear family and your duty to it. Be it through books, cartoons, your family etc.
Imagine now, the later generation that was raised without those ideas. Unless we turn shit around quick it will get bad. Really, really bad.
Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again!
>>67828987
The vast majority of women are degenerates.
Good luck forcing men into marrying scummy sluts.
>>67829957
Church and bible study is for loser cucks
>>67830074
A fucking slut who is a nigger.
>>67816918
The nuclear family has been dead since the 1960s, the body is dead, but the blood is still pumping. What we are seeing now is its necrosis.
>>67829660
There is a reason all the best countries were based on Christian morality.
Your ancestors travelled the world before most anyone else and they still didn't build society beyond exploration and conquest. All that skill and no way to organize and use it.
Christianity enters, the Nordic people take the message to heart, and have the best outcomes of all nations.
Global presence, wealth and influence, all from a group of people no more than 10 million in size.
All this goes to shit once Christian values are gone. There is no case study of any other religion or ideology creating any meaningful modern civilization. Out of the hundreds thst have been tried, all have failed.
Things worked when people had the right ideas and followed them without question. These things became moral because they worked. Today we actively avoid them, we actively avoid what works.
I sometimes if I'm the only one around who thinks everything has gone completely insane compared to how things were in 1950-2000, mostly the social norms.
Or I just hate people a lot.
>>67827883
The "Enlightenment" sure fucked us over.
>>67830310
Reasonable people know it's in the crapper. It's the retarded ones who thinks its normal.
>>67829660
Technology. That's what's off.
President industrial society had none of these problems.
>>67830089
So are most men. I'd wager to say that most 4channers would make society worse if they married and had kids. We deserve a life of celibacy to pay for our sins. We are no better than Tumblr feminists.
>>67830074
The sad thing is some betabux engineer or accountant will wife her up out of sheer desperation and take care of Jamal's son while she's out riding bbc all day
Betas are enabling this behavior by accepting coalburners and single mothers
Back in the day such women would've been doomed to a life of begging in the streets
>>67830284
You're wrong
Christianity is a slave religion and is a big reason why the West is on the decline
If the West had embraced Islam instead you wouldn't see this crumbling of civilization because Islam is a religion of conquerors and warriors not cucks and beggars like Christianity is
>>67825882
LOLOLOOLOLOLOLL HOLY SHIT GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
>>67829660
For some perspective, Mormons are a globally ridiculed minority that it is ok to hate. Thing is, they follow Christian values and see incredible success as a result.
>>67830474
The average 4channer is too damaged to be worth marrying. Look to celibacy instead. You don't deserve a wife.
>>67830420
The Enlightenment is what made us prosperous
What has caused the state of things today is the disparaging of Enlightenment values
>>67816479
I'll try and sum up the reasons:
>modern dating culture is corrupt
Don't agree with that statement? Consider how online dating basically feels like applying for a job. 'Must make x amount of money,' 'must be x height or above,' no self-respecting man would waste their time.
>marriage is signing a contract with the state
The state that, at any moment, can fuck you over big league. There's a sense of uncertainty with gambling your assets and having your hard work taken away. This is human nature at its core.
>marriage is no longer viewed as a rite of passage into adulthood
Gone are the days where you can work a job right out of high school, pay off a house, car, and live comfortably with a stay-at-home wife.
>porn and vidya
The former provides the desired sexual release, the latter gives a challenge. The challenge of courtship is perceived as no longer worth it, given that women can falsely accuse you of rape, trap you into having a kid, and so on.
>career culture
Where pride was once held in the family, emphasis is placed on moving ahead in the workplace. Money is now viewed as the primary IRL challenge, rather than courtship.
>pressure
We live in a world now where stress levels are higher than ever before. Source:
>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stress-levels-soar-america-30-30-years-article-1.1096918
Since the hormones responsible for stress are also key in identifying danger, and since they're higher than ever before, people are simply too high strung to bother with anything that doesn't revolve around immediate release and gratification.
So, where will this all take us? Pic related.
>>67830474
I disagree, only women can be sexual degenerates.
>>67830694
Islam doesn't build shit though.
One billion Muslims and they are all shit.
Christianity is on the decline and things are getting worse, what a concept.
Countries with thousands of years head start do fuck all when compared to nations with a strong Christian backing.
There would have been nothing to crumble under islam.
>>67830746
Let me guess you're a 20 year old college sophomore who is friendless and virgin
You see your peers having the time of their lives and you're jealous, it's okay, we get it
>>67830489
TFW Engineer who matched with her on Tinder...
>>67827889
>It's everyone's fault but mine that my extremely specific dating requirements are not being met. Every woman is a vapid coal burning single mother. I know this because youtube videos made by autistic NEETs told me so.
>>67817408
Or do the sensible thing and actually investigate her family and know her morals. There is also premarital counseling, any person who isn't willing to go to premarital counseling isn't worth marrying.
>>67830458
Even ''intellectuals'' think it is good the current way things are. It's not. I've yet to meet anyone not retarded at uni who sees the political games played at EU. If you would watch how some regulations get passed within it and analyze it you know it's a corrupt clique. Nobody cares about politics, nobody cares about their country anymore it's all multiculturalism hype. It's more prevalent upon ''educated'' people and ''career orientated'' people from my experience. The career fucks are the worst people I've ever encountered, even Muslim extremist Arabs are better than them. That's because they are more stupid and less likely to fuck you over due to it.
I mentioned only the social side, the economic side is off worse. Europe is screwed coin losing value along with banks giving out negative interest rates which means a lot of governments their debt is rising really fast with no real way to pay it off.
>>67831374
No woman is worth marrying.
We have to take away their rights, feminists are the reason of the decline.
>>67830856
The enlighten showed us that we can have Christian morals without Catholic ritual.
Frees up a lot of time for science and commerce. Problem is when you go one step further and discard the Christian morality too.
>>67817567
I'm going to believe that is an elaborate troll. Please do not interfere with my willing delusion.
>>67825792
It's honestly confusing from all ends
The basic option would be to make cash and enjoy life for what it is
But the basis of life is to reproduce so it's always gonna bug you
Then there's the saying that there's billion of us and any spawn we have don't matter which I guess is somewhat true
But women are irrational for the most part and you're taking a huge gamble on them especially in this society. It's also true that if you base a marriage on looks, when you get old you will be disgusted with each other.
The best option is what I saw someone else say. Don't get married and find a partner to have kids but pretend you are "married." If they can't deal with that not worth it.
>>67831045
Islam was the pinnacle of civilization for centuries and despite being shithole countries now they are not tolerant of hypergamy and homosexuality and all these other ills plaguing the West
Christianity is for slaves, a perfect example of this is the evangelical "house church" movement in China. It's a massive religious movement yet the Chinese don't crack down on it like they have with all other religions. Now let's examine why this is: it's because Christianity preaches kissing your master's feet and turning the other cheek and obedience to earthly powers
It's the least threatening thing in the world
Christianty is for soft men who easily find themselves enslaved
>>67830284
>There is no case study of any other religion or ideology creating any meaningful modern civilization.
Get some world history m8. There were many empires that had an official religion and were hugely influenced by it.
>>67831081
26, had enough sex, wise enough to know that "happiness" is fleeting and there are much more important things in life.
Seek contentment and morality.
>>67816479
Find something else to do with your time then, fuck.
>waahh there's women to divorce rape me out there I like
>muh degeneracy muh goal of a family muh save the white race
Fucking christ, shut the fuck up already, you whiny faggot. Nobody cares.
>>67831613
First place in a game with nobody really competing.
No western influence for over 1000 years.
Only real influence coming in the last 30 years.
Even in Russia the Chechens are shit and the Christians are slightly less shit.
Islam is garbage. It had a 1000 year head start and got wrecked. It should be so huge and so relevant, yet even within your own bogus worldview they are getting cucked by a country less than 300 years old.
>>67827883
>falling for the nietzsche meme
i bet you're "le red-pilledXDDDD" too
>>67831861
And where are they today?
Why dcouldn't they every get to the point where they had electricity?
Why are they shit? All that head start, all those resources and they didn't make anything cool, and don't exist today.
>>67831569
Christianity was never the right myth to have
Nietzche was right about this
We need a myth that praises power and control rather than poverty and self-flagellation
>tfw have no idea what I'll do for marriage
>tfw kissless virgin
>tfw I feel like a reverse beta
>tfw I am a reverse beta
>>67832113
Plenty of civilizations thst worked on this framework.
None of them saw real success. Many of them ended up getting conquered by Christians LOL
>>67832176
how is that not just being a beta?
are you female?
>>67830244
You could do yourself a favour and lose some weight you fatty.
>Atheist
>Fat
>NEET
>No Friends
>You
Pick all of them
>>67826222
>still being a slave to your biology
Here's a tip: It won't matter one fucking lick in the grand scheme whether you have some little hell spawn running after your dead.
Once you're dead that's it
>>67832096
>And where are they today?
There are differing reasons, but it is true that they ended up losing to the west. I'm just saying that there were other civilizations based around religion (lots of different Islam empires that are gone now). But in many ways, those old empires did help to advance science and education forward.
>>67831946
Christianity is a Roman religion you dingus
Rome was the apex of civilization and then they accepted Christianity and collapsed
Lmao
Christianity is extremely toxic
>>67832452
Go vote for El Rato christcuck. Nobody cares about your stale bag of lies at this point anymore.
>>67831946
There is no point arguing with the fedora mouth breather bro.
>>67831096
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>67832575
>>67832544
>Pic related
ITT: Omega nu-males (which isn't restricted to the left right paradigm) try to reframe their failure to into basic healthy relationships.
Traditional, marriage tier females are everywhere - you're simply not good enough for them on all levels and so you fixate on the worst aspects of the female in 2016 and act like that's all women.
>>67832269
All civilizations that traded in their indigenous religions for Christianity have or are collapsing
You simply cannot sustain a society on holding up an emaciated pacifist as the height of what people should be
>>67832508
They had it all.
Time resources power. Got nothing done.
All the while several distinct Christian nations made their own success. It is a consistent patter of everything else being shit by comparison.
Build pyramid but don't invent the book, codex or move able type.
>>67832495
*Tips fedora
Selfish faggots like you are a detriment to Humanity. I'm glad YOU don't want to reproduce, but exceptional people have a DUTY to spread those genes and knowledge on to the future of our kind.
>>67832761
Roastie Internet defense force in full shill mode
>Man up
No thank you fat whore
>>67832495
Not only that but parts of your genes lie in other parts of the world. You are just one branch. Any family you have will carry those genes too. Whatever you are will be fragmented and diluted into nothing in the future
The only thing that bothers me about not having kids is living a lonely life by myself and I don't want to adopt
>>67832452
>christcuck projecting this hard
Not surprising t b h
Go practice your Jewish slave religion
>>67831613
>>Islam was the pinnacle of civilization for centuries
What time period are you referring to?
What about their civilization was better than European's or Asians?
>>67817408
>marriage
>institution that guarantees women get every advantage
>immediately let themselves go and get fat
>sequestered sex until you do what she wants while she fucks chad/tyrone on the side
>divorce is the new normal - J U S T
>lol get a prenup
>not even a trust from a jew lawyer to get your shit locked tight
prenups ONLY WORK if you both have your own separate lawyers so she cant claim she was coerced and didn't understand
BUT EVEN THEN WHY BOTHER
>>67832841
Exceptional people don't reproduce, they're busy doing other things. 99% of reproduction is the ugly, worthless dregs of society with nothing better to do than fuck all day.
>>67832544
1000 years no light bulb.
Shit tier.
>2016
>falling for the vaginal jew
I come from a poor part of the deep south. I've since gotten out when I attended college but haven't looked back. I remember that teen pregnancy and single motherhood, even among white girls, was fucking common. It was the same old routine almost all the time...
>guy knocks up girl
>their parents sign a legal waver allowing kids to get married at 16 or 17.
>everyone pretends to not be ashamed
>kid is born
>everyone pretends like it's the greatest thing ever
>"marriage" lasts 18 whole months
>divorce
It's time to treat single mothers and especially teenage mothers like the freak shows they are. How did society devolve so badly?
>>67830074
>>67830489
I live in O town and I can assure you that a majority of UCF engineering grads are either permanently single or in a long term relationship with a non-leech.
There are so many desperate girls around UCF/Valencia it's actually insane. You'd have to be crazy to settle for a dumbass bitch like this when there's much better to choose from.
>>67832894
Even if you reproduce yourself your grandchildren and especially your great grandchildren will have little left of *you*.
It's a pointless mouse wheel for the dumbest of the dumb.
>>67829660
That's because happiness is not found on pleasure.
A couple of thousands of years ago, the Greeks studied pretty hard on what makes you a better and happier person.
For whatever the reason, people decided to ignore their lessons and became hedonists in the worse sense of the world.
Simple example: nuns are usually much happier than pornstars.
>>67827539
>society doesn't revolve around the needs of it's people
Trash
Why would I want to marry?
And more importantly, why would Iyou want to marry a whore disgusting enough to love an autistic wretch who has spend the last ten years doing drugs, bashing niggers, masturbating to young teen girls, and shitposting like me?
>>67833019
Yeah, tesla.
The average human being is garbage.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all throughout history, wasn't it only about 60 - 80% of men who actually reproduced?
>>67832869
>literally respond EXACTLY as you'd expect from a degenerate, sub-human omega piece of shit.
You couldn't be more exactly as I said if you tried, you pathetic nu-male eunuch.
What a shock you reframe what I said as "man up", you complete and utter imbecile.
>>67832293
I don't want to have a ton of casual sex because I'm saving myself for marriage.
I have a lot of guy friends but I don't have a bf. And I have no idea what they'd want from a relationship anyways so I don't say anything
And yes I'll admit it I am grill. Which shouldn't normally matter but I have to let this out somewhere...
People need purpose. In Athens the women stayed inside the house and obeyed her husband while Spartan women participated in sports so they would become strong mothers. Men need work they can be proud of such as farming or being a warrior. Family, religion and honest work is important yet it's ignored in the modern west. You study not to gain knowledge but to get a job to pay for the material possessions you need to fill the empty hole in your soul.
>>67833019
That is a sad fact and I agree with you. We need to shift culture to change that. Eugenics needs to come back. Humanity can only excel as far as human nature allows, and if we keep making shit people they will hold us back for thousands of years.
>>67833361
>1) The more time a woman spends on her looks, the less time she has to do anything worthwhile. She might try to spend some time on hollow one-liners, but
>2) A woman who spends the majority of her time on her looks tends to be a shallow, selfish narcissist who is only good at making herself look good.
>3) A woman who is a narcissist also tends be be a whore—for both attention and in the literal sense, since looking good and having a vagina are all she has to her name.
>4) Since her appearance and vagina are the only thing she has, she uses her looks and vagina in order to attain power over men and to use/abuse them. Being a narcissist, she of course places the highest priority on her own pleasures and whims.
>5) In the rare case a woman cares less about her looks than a self-absorbed whore does, (and instead pursues other interests instead), she’s usually derided as not good looking enough to bang, or having an interest solely for the purpose to attract men and torment them.
>6) Enter a femanon who wants to try and debunk and/or discuss this stereotype in a civil manner, since she’s not a narcissistic attention whore. However, admitting you’re a female is obviously part of lending credence to your perspective.
>7) The femanon is immediately pressured into camwhoring in order to prove she’s female, and any possible discussion is immediately stifled as she either whores it out for the camera in order to prove her gender or refuses to do so.
>8) After whoring it out for the camera, she’s judged on her looks, called a shallow attention whore and her original point is rendered moot. If she refuses, she’s dismissed as being a man and her point is rendered moot anyways.
>9) Either way, the stereotype persists because nobody knows otherwise.
>>67833361
Tits or gtfo
>>67833220
>porn stars
>pleasure
They're pissed on and have their roasties shredded by BBC for MONEY. They're not doing it for pleasure they're doing it to eat. Horrible analogy.
>>67833220
I honestly think most people on this board should seriously consider celibacy or even monastic life.
we're not fit for marriage either by being born impaired or by years of conditioning, it would actyally be a BAD thing for society if 4channers raised kids.. Celibacy is the way to go to pay for our past sins.
If you want traditional women, then be a traditional man. Stop playing video games, shitposting, crying on social media, laughing at stupid /pol/ shit and go work on the fields
>>67833316
>Why would I want to marry?
To have a family and someone to be by your side
>And more importantly, why would Iyou want to marry a whore disgusting enough
You should probably spend on your energy improving yourself. You will be happier than by living the life you live right now.
>>67832952
The period from 600 to 1300
Islam was making breakthroughs in mathematics and medicine and astronomy and navigation and metallurgy and military tactics and shipbuilding and architecture and virtually ever other field you can think of
During this "Islamic Golden Age" the rest of the world was a backwards shithole filled with subsistence farmers who thought that their station in life was a result of their sins
>>67833536
It's tradition.
>>67833545
>Why would I want to marry?
To have a family and someone to be by your side
For men who are not in the top 15-25% marriage is not a good option anymore.
>>67824772
You're a degenerate and you need to find meaning in your life.
>>67833361
Just marry chad thundercock.
I mean shit I would fuck because my preggo fettish is through the roof
Wish she was slightly younger tho
Why not wait a few years and marry a qt 20yr old when you're 40?
It seems to me a lot of guys get fucked simply because they marry women their age.
At 26 we're still immature IMO, we still have a lot of room to grow and learn while women are pretty much reaching the end of their realistic dating life(and no milfs dont count, why marry some divorced hag, who guarantees you she wont fuck you over?).
I mean, look at John Mcafee, he's 70 and is still in the game, probably has more girlfriends than most of us.
>>67833484
>Man up
Are you morons really still pushing this?
>>67833316
absolutely virgin
>>67833581
>Islamic golden age
Ayyooo Ahmed we wuz scientists n shieeet insh'allah
>>67820464
Degenerate. I hope you enjoy living alone in your 50's on dialysis due to your failing alcohol soaked body before ultimately taking your own life at the old folks home because you can't lawn bowl anymore.
Why do milennals?
hur hur
Why do milenalilas???
hur dur
why do milenlails
>>67830914
I wonder why marriage rates are declining
I just joined tinder a couple hours ago and have only gotten one match so far. I really must be ugly.
>>67833659
Mcafee is happily married and is on the run from about 20 different assassins.
>>67833348
Way less actually
20% is roughly the number of males that have been able to reproduce throughout all of human history
>>67833467
Pornstars love sex. And they have a lot of it. If you dislike this example, you should think about old schools PUAs. They are extremely miserable.
>>67833474
I disagree. /pol/acks are not really worse than degenerates.
>>67833671
Yeah lets keep crying all day on 'the chan, that will surely fix your country. Fucking crybaby
>>67833385
technology sucked the soul out of everything. That's why I feel guilty for being an electrical engineer.
Was electricity even worth it? A subsistence farmer is happier than someone who designs integrated circuits. I used to have a goal in life to be some great researcher of inventor but now I realize that furthering technology can't really do good for the world at all.
There are quality traditional women - but they are now a small minority, and as the most desirable women they are only going to be acquired by 10/10 rich alpha males.
If you aren't one of those, you might as well kill yourself now. You will never get any quality woman, because they are in short supply now.
Frankly, there isn't any point even if you are a 10/10 alpha male, because any children you create will be born into a dying civilization.
>>67833357
>Men should be robotic, boring, breadearners with no time for themselves just for the CHANCE of having a woman who doesn't eat herself into the emergency room or ride every nigger dick that passes
Yeah, no thanks shitposting austrailian. That's all you.
>>67833701
They were
Meanwhile people in Sweden were running around the woods naked using animalistic grunts to communicate
>>67833780
Because no one beats their woman anymore.
Top kek.
>>67829660
Hopefully a purposeful meaning emerges in Nordic countries. Living to work for welfare money to fund the sick elderly and immigrants is a dull and pitiful existence.
>>67833357
Eunuchs had a solid place in society for centuries. They were the ones who dedicated their lives to faith, science, etc.
Today their potential to be something greater is destroyed by places like 4chan
>>67833794
And these people weren't even aware they didn't get to reproduce, compared to today and --
Well, fuck, suddenly the FA community's existence makes a lot of sense.
>>67833845
I'm not the one crying, I couldn't care less about having a live in parasite or if the average dumb roastie hasn't found her Disney prince yet
>>67833611
I know it's tradition but hearing /r9k/-tier bitching about self-obsessed attention whores as if they represented 50% of the human population fucking everywhere on this fucking site gets me just as sick of it as any /pol/ack would on Tumblr.
>>67833623
It is if you find someone good.
>>67833789
Tinder is shit man. I recently started using it at the beginning of this year and you'll only find bottom-of-the-barrel chicks especially if you're in a city/college town.
>>67833790
Yes, but thats more or less recent, dude had one hell of a life and is full of experience.
Nobody is going to fuck with him, much less a woman.
>>67820287
Jennifer Roasting detected
>>67832761
Watch the poltards sperg at your common sense kek
>>67834214
There are no good women.
>>67833982
I do.
It's helped us stay together, too.
>>67834214
Which for the bottom 75-85% of men is impossible
>>67834010
Nordic countries have always been pathetic shitholes
While the Anglo was conquering the world the Nord was starving to death in his mud hut
>>67833780
Is this going to be the new norm soon? If so I want out of this life.
I mean, the subreddit is called ADULTERY, so I doubt it's a good sampling of the population.
>>67826767
>start dating website for those seeking traditional marriages
>make bux
>find purehearted qt
You mean Christian mingle?
>>67834378
That's good. Kudos.
>>67834401
Look into arranged marriages. Any religion that has them is the way to go.
That's why Indians and Orthodox Jews still have strong families even WITH both parents working .
>>67833581
>military tactics
this is the only one, and they still got their asses kicked once Christians decided to fight back.
all that shit about science is a total lie, i'd love to see some sources if you have any.
>>67833780
This is ugly. Also shows why people really show study philosophy.
The biggest problem of those women is that they think sexual pleasure is the greatest good. They think having sexual pleasure is better than being a good wife, a good mother.
By thinking like that, they become shittier people. Likely, they also become unhappier people. I know someone like this. Has huge problems and has to take anti depressives (I know, this is only anecdotal evidence).
It is impossible to be a really good person if you value sex this much.
>>67825380
Marriage based on love is a relatively new concept to people in the last hundred or something years.
>>67834541
We aren't Indians and Orthodox Jews.
>>67834632
All white people had similar marriages until about 200 years ago
>>67816479
That hairline is fuckin brutal
>>67834541
Those things require family ties, not just converting to a religion.
I'm already married. I'd consider myself in the top 10% of men in looks/intelligence/charisma
>>67834559
Theres 76 sources for you at the bottom of the page
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
>>67833207
Haha me too, I'm Electrical. I'd say it's half and half for people in my major dating/dated quality women
>>67834364
You make a woman good. Largely our problems in this area exist because men have abandoned their fatherly duty.
Every woman needs a man's guidance. Any man with a single mom or sister knows this. Embrace it, we'll all be better off.
JUST
>>67834859
le ebin attacking reddit to distract from the even worse degeneracy of 4chan meme
>>67834704
We aren't 200 years ago. Where are these marriages I can find?
>>67829222
Neither party has to prove a wrongdoing in the marriage in order to ask for a divorce.
This has essentially led for one partner or the other just calling it quits and because alimony laws are still sexist and stacked against men, guess who gets fucked 100% of the time?
I have no problem with no fault divorce, alimony laws are what need changing.
>>67834571
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I don't know much about philosphy but hedonism IMO is a natural outgrowth of selfishness.
The problem is that selfish women tend to look the best. At least outwardly.
>>67834760
wow, you really know your stuff. sorry for thinking you were parroting ignorant liberal nonsense.
>>67831551
You have to go back. Out out out.
Back to /r9k/ with you.
>>67833732
>t. millennial: the post
>>67834975
>I have no problem with no fault divorce
You should. Marriage should be sacred and unbreakable outside of serious abuse. A marriage that is just "partnership" for pleasure and short-term interest will not be successful.
>>67816479
She is sooooo typical it hurts
>>67835082
You're a millennial too, you dumb son of a bitch.
Unless you're 35 years old.
>>67834832
Women won't listen, we live in a period where women have many freedoms now and in some eras more rights than men.
Society has to crash, and then dumb uneducated humans will make up new fake religions that will put women back in her place with the fear of God and Man.
>>67833936
>literally get mocked for reframing what is actually being posted with some complete garbage that yet again shifts the goalposts so you're not a worthless, cowardly fucking loser.
What a surprise you're a subhuman omega male.
Men should be dominant men who can attract decent women and create solid, strong families. The men and women you describe is you projecting and then hating on your best chances.
>>67834363
I'll never understand how literal manchildren think they deserve traditional females. "Men" like that deserve the fat, stupid, worthless whores being a abject failure gets you.
>>67835089
Marriage has never been sacred, it has and always been a way to ensure progeny, wealth, and status are passed down without issue from one generation to the next.
>>67816479
>muh marriage
Give me one fucking reason to get married as a man
>>67835307
And it does this by being strong, not by being something you call off when you get bored of your wife or husband when you have ten year old children.
>>67835059
You get back, feminism is the major reason of the decline.
>>67834435
The Nordics are the true conquerors of the world.
Stay buttmad that your 3rd world, 60% white and shrinking rapidly shithole will never shape the world as well as the Nordics did.
>>67835033
Good to know you have no other argument than "nuh uh"
Don't ever reply to me again you absolute runt
>>67825792
Yes you fucking ingrate
My grandparents still loved each other before my grandpa passed
>>67816479
Heres why
>Coming to a country near you
Let it Burn. Upon the Ashes of the former utopia A new one shall emerge. Then the cycle repeats.
>>67835241
If you are loving and provide them useful guidance of course they will listen to you. Show them over time how valuable your wisdom is.
You will need to actually care about them and be wise. Women like this, ya know, I'm not suggesting anything strange. Chicks are always looking for manly words.
>>67834995
It is all about studying how to better live life.
There is a reason virtues are virtues.
Traditional morals don't tell women not to be whores because they hate women and want them to suffer. They tell women not to be whores because that make the women better and happier.
But then, people now think that this is all a Christian conspiracy against women. Because they can't think further than fleeing bodily pleasure.
>>67835451
>You get back, feminism is the major reason of the decline.
I never said it didn't but when you say all women, that is just ignorant.
>>67817326
Inb4 "the government should do something about this!"
It will happen, its probably alreafy happened, the recent sugar tax is a prime example, at least this time fatties are contributing to the budget for the first time ever
It seems to me that in the long run, there are only two scenarios. In the short term, we are seeing women being more outspoken, and being manipulated as Useful Idiots to encourage forced multiculturalism, mass migration and other damage to social and cultural identities. While this is reaching its peak - if it hasnt already - ultimately it can only play out in ways which are anything but beneficial to women.
Islam successfully conquers Europe / the West. Women will get a real close look at what an actual Rape Culture looks like. Welcome to the rest of their lives as subservient chattel living in misery.
The West collapses/undergoes revolution. In which case, Women will be publicly identified (as they already have been by MGTOW, TRP, and anyone with half a brain) as the cause of society's downfall. The weak link that pushed it all over the edge with their rabid, completely unrealistic concepts of how society should function. Based on feelings and not the underlying and indisputable facts of life, nature and reality. Either way, society will be a darkened, broken shadow of what it once was. Regressed to earlier and more brutal times. With women not only associated with an 'original sin' style of blanket denigration, but trapped in the reality of a regressed society where men, not women, rule by the natural functions of strength, intelligence, aggression and honour. How could it be otherwise?
>>67835451
>You get back, feminism is the major reason of the decline.
True.
>>67831577
>>67831577
It is a troll.
People cannot be this pathetic.
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>>67835665
cunt detected
you act entitled and use divorce to steal half a mans worth.
>>67833361
I'm doing the same and I'm a grill too. From what i hear once you start looking for a husband the no sex thing speeds up the proposal so it should be fine. Believe it or not there are guys that like shy grills that act like you do. I recommend cooking and baking for him and it should seal the deal. Good luck fellow femanon.
>>67817567
I can't believe people actually let this shit happen. The very mention of an open relationship should mean it's over let alone doing it.
>>67835653
I couldn't have phrased it better.
>>67835665 also gets it.
