NON-DEGENERATE ART THREAD!
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It's been a while now. Let's have another non-degenerate art thread.
As always, you're free to post any art form, as long as it's non-degenerate
>Painting
>Sculpture
>Architecture
>Photography
>Poetry
>Music
>etc.
And as always, we invite people who are in favour of degenerate art to come here and argue their points. In the past, we've had a lot of people try to argue that art should not be about producing beauty with skill and talent, but about provoking people by invoking disgust, repulsion and so on (performance "art", modern "art" etc).
I'll start dumping!
>>67802578
Get in here, folks!
Anyone lurking? Let's get this thread going!
Does anyone have the cap about modern art being a Jew money laundering program?
>>67803718
I'd be interested in that as well.
>>67804302
>>67804399
Saved! Good one.
>>67804490
:)
>>67804782
This one is also great, for some reason...
>>67804943
I like depictions like this of old times.
>>67805243
Nice! What is this from?
>>67802578
Thanks for these, Sweden
>>67805344
Mate, I'm not sure about this one.
>>67805528
Is that Iceland?
>>67805039
>I like depictions like this of old times.
IMHO there is a difference between clearly staged paintings (worst offenders are propaganda/political/power stuff), and others that just seem so natural and take you right there.
But yes, in the latter case, depictions of old times are plain awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whlPLxv7hZI
>>67805625
I agree, which is why stuff like >>67804375 and >>67803250 is more awesome than >>67805263
I get your point.
>>67805746
Keep the thread clean, man. You're intentionally posting borderline degeneracy.
>>67805620
Yes
>>67805947
Great! Where is this from? Edinburgh?
>>67802578
>non degenerate art thread
>posts kitschy shite
nice one m8
>>67805370
not sure.
>>67805620
Don't know. Most of these are from /wg/ or /p/.
>>67806070
here's a classic that has become a pretty popular meme
>TFW living in Zion
Why haven't you converted to Mormonism yet, white man?
>>67806242
Alright. I love air photography, especially of towns/neighbourhoods in Scandinavia and such. Beautiful.
I do this shit daily.
Course of Empire 1
>>67806381
I always imagine this guy as the man in Wanderer Above the Mist. Pic related.
>>67806381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaQYQnrPgSM
>>67805344
Degenerate
are none of you escapist autists gonna bite then?
>>67802578
Rijk Museum contains beautiful art desu familio. My mum made me go once when we were in holland.
>>67806702
You're a baker?
>>67806566
Beautiful song. Doesn't sound traditionally Christian... is it some Mormon thing?
>>67805620
No, it's the Isle of Skye in Scotland.
Reverse search it next time.
>>67806563
Yeah, he's a pretty obscure figure to most.
The Mormon religion is pretty much the only religion that has surfaced in the past 500 years that isn't degenerate as fuck.
They are truly patricians when it comes to the arts.
>TFW I get to see this temple all the time
>no 40k
Nice
>>67802578
Based Swede always creating this thread.
>>67806983
Mormonism is interesting. Mormons have tons of children as well.
Check this one out. Imagine painting those waves. Only true talent could produce this.
>>67802578
Geoff Hunt is one of my favourites. Old maritime is always 10/10
>>67802752
degenerate.
dat filename=pisschrist?
>>67807112
Thanks mate! Pic related is a Russian painter by the way.
>>67807303
based marshennikov
>>67802578
You have great taste, Sweden.
>>67807284
That's not art nouveau.
>>67806833
Chef, I do bake sometimes.
>>67803332
>>67802680
gat damn
Is this actually as masterful as I think it is?
>>67805344
degenerate
>>67806833
Yeah, Mormonism has almost no influence from the Catholic church which is probably why it is demonized so much. It's cultural roots are from American pioneers during the time of "Manifest Destiny" so they are die-hard patriots.
Pretty much all the stuff the Mormon tabernacle puts out is beautiful and unique. Highly recommend it to anyone who likes choir.
Toot Toot
>>67807309
Beautiful. It amazes me how some painters decide and take the time to produce motifs like these.
>>67807461
Yes, sir! Grimshaw had a truly UNIQUE style which is why his paintings are some of the most sought after in the world!
>>67807196
Beautiful. The textures are spot on
>>67806983
Same here - it's a wonderful sight, isn't it?
>inb4 nobody knows who painted this
>>67807561
I've read a lot about Amish and Mennonites, who are pretty much unique to North America as well, and we even had a former Mennonite anon here once who said they're not very good at theology etc as one might think. Honestly both Mormons and Mennonites/Amish seem more Protestant based considering the simple lifestyle/hard work mentality.
>>67807303
Damn, this is a painting?
I love these threads, they're so relaxing.
>>67808067
This stuff is absolutely amazing! It gives you some insane perspective. Always makes me think about how cities we live in now literally were all forests 500 years ago. Travelling outside the village was a huge project without proper roads etc.
>>67802578
>>67803642
I was kind of disconcerted to find out that Bierstadt was a ruthless self-promoter. If he had lived in modern times, would he have been more like >>67803431? It's difficult to think about.
I'm not really sure if anyone here is aware of what Viz is, but they have (or did, I haven't read it in years now) a strip called The Critics. It fits in with this thread though because it's anti-degeneracy and sums the art world up pretty perfectly (I'm sure the fact both Critics having big noses is coincidence).
Anyone have any 1700s war paintings?
Elizabeth Jerichau-Baumann women always looked very cute.
>>67808219
Yes sir. It's not painted from mind though, she's a model.
>>67808383
Lol, that's spot on. I mean, anti-degenerate art is truly just common sense.
>>67808788
>J.S. Bach / Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POe2fBjbswA
>>67802578
>phd student in history/art history, aka a faggot
>at a good North American university
AMA.
"A Little Child Shall Lead Them"
Painted by a distant relative of mine. Not entirely sure what his name was, but I know that he came from the Strutt family in England. William Strutt, I do believe.
Maybe someone with knowledge on the matter can help me out.
>>67806566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJR3k3duqnI
>>67808564
No, but i have this from 1864.
Danish soldiers in the 2nd Slesvig war
>>67808564
I have to be honest, I don't enjoy them very much. They always felt a bit messy to me.
>>67808892
How degenerate-oriented is it at your university? Are the professors more like Alexander Stoddart and openly oppose degenerate art at the PhD level?
Eh... everything ITT looks dated.
Anyway new stuff out there?
>>67802680
Beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CJmmCLE3_c
>>67808564
Naval warfare
>>67808567
>100 posts in and no dutch til Bosch posted by a Croat
what is the world coming to
>>67808768
I'd love a world without modernism
>>67808850
>>67808554
Tissot fan, are we?
This guy's from one town over, Emile Claus.
>>67809083
>nymphs arr rook same
>>67809058
Nice, who made it? I love the colours in it.
>>67809117
This pattern is so overused.
>man in the bottom of the painting, very small
>something gigantic in the background
Thematically, it expressed almost nothing.
>>67808944
That's really cool. I have a few local artists in my family as well, but for the most part they didn't have any extreme talent. I have some paintings from my grandparents from unknown artists I'll never be able to identify. I should scan them somehow.
>>67808373
Didn't know that. Bierstadt was one of those people who just had that insanely raw talent so be able to make such detailed paintings.
Here's a Bunker Hill one.
>Purcell: Dido & Aeneas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhYP2QnwWbg
>>67809083
Waterhouse is one of my all time favorite artists.
>>67808880
Here my american brother, i have a brighter version if you want it!
Long live Mother-Denmark
>>67809117
I have a limited amount of 'newer' art in my folder, but people don't seem to enjoy so I don't post it much.
my home cathedral
Might look basic but it always hits me in the feels, I miss the simpler times.
>>67809288
>Tissot fan
It's hard not to be when it seems like I'm in front of a person who managed to capture the every day aesthetic of another time, when people didn't just put beauty in museum but incorporated it in their daily lives.
When I look at buildings and the style of dress that exists today the only thing I see is some expression of pure functionality. It's like I'm staring at a bunch of balance sheets.
>>67809083
>post-colonialism, deconstructionist, anti-white rhetoric parroted by SJW faculty and students hell-bent on making the world a marxist shithole.
tbqh familia, it's pretty bad but its bad everywhere.
I'm an outright anti-degenerate and everyone knows it in my department.
I have never revealed my power level, but I've got a copy of Reagan's biography on my desk and I happily tell others that I think art received a mortal wound in 1917. It's been dying every since, or at least in painting it has.
Very few professors are anti-degenerate b/c so few white, straight males are professors anymore. they're all old and dying. they're also in red-pilled subjects that are no longer an interest to college kids b/c they dont have muh womyns and muh minorities (anglo-saxon england, Louis France, etc)
I'm early in my phd and I'll be switching topics so I can replace them, and not these anti-white mongols who think shit on canvas is a political statement.
>>67809288
should I take that as an offence? :)
oh and I posted like 5 Rembrant's paintings
>>67809655
This British/Scottish/Gothic and also traditional English style is SO awesome.
>>67808944
Found the original. It was in fact William Strutt.
>>67809883
>>67803431
Lurking the hell out of it, enjoying seeing skill.
>>67809818
atta boy.
Tissot did more refined and less degenerate depictions of leisure and domestic scenes. So the better version of Sisley and Renoir.
>>67809605
Long live Mother Denmark!
>>67809494
Who needs a theme?
Art is subjective
>>67809843
sorry Croat-bro, I'm an enormous faggot who skimmed thru and missed them.
posting some Remmy's in your honour.
>>67809379
I think it is Vilhelm Rosenstand but i am not sure...
Here is another painting but from the previous Slesvig war 1848-1851 which Denmark won.-
>>67808768
It's pretty bizarre for the strip to be in the comic (there's another one too called The Modern Parents showing the same thing, but obviously parenting) because it's all basically toilet humour. I'm glad you've posted that image though because there was related to it in our paper yesterday
>Historic town nearby that's had a castle and population etc since England and Scotland were at war
>For the most part it's still really traditionalist
>Local newspaper is basically Reddit tier like most papers
>"These are the plans on what we hope will take us into the modern age with new modern buildings" (hotel, shops and restaurants in that fucking disgusting modern style, pic related is the actual imaging of it)
>The comments are filled with cucks every time
>See this one also has comments on it
>None of them are cucked
>My favourite
>"Are these developers trying to destroy communities with their architects hell bent on designing cold, stark and vacuous enviroments - These people will do more damage to english towns and villages than the Luftwaffe did 65 years ago. The Duke needs to stand up and be counted by not associating with such schemes until the day they can present plans for developments that reflect a quality and beauty to their surroundings for the people that live there"
>Paper BTFO and guaranteed to not allow comments on their follow up
I'm sick of seeing the shit popping up everywhere. Remove traditionalism, make everywhere look the same and this will aid multiculturism and the "culture shock" will be a thing of the past. That seems to be their thinking. Pieces of shit.
>>67809820
That's so depressing. It reminds me of pic related.
You should really aim on replacing a good professor and keeping the legacy alive. You'll be able to inspire more students to continue the anti-degenerate mindset and actually actively support real art. Modern/expressionist/performance art needs to go - challenge the very concept of it as art. It's not even art!
>>67810146
Glad to hear man!
>>67802886
What is this piece?
>>67809294
>>67809487
>>67810169
I'm no history PhD, so would you mind talking about the ways in which art received a mortal blow in 1917?
I'm pretty open to even the more abstract arts, which I see as "artist's art", which are more study of "pure form" or "pure perception", that can only be appreciated by trained artists. I think we have toxic relationship with it because we've forgotten what it's proper place was, but I don't see that it has no place at all.
>>67807467
How so?
>>67804302
Nighthawks is his most popular work but I've always been a bigger fan of Automat.
A man has told me god is good,
and stands above all men,
that he will never cast us forth,
though drenched with lust and sin,
That though we heed him little,
and pursue our own accord
he will not seek our bane nor yet,
unsheath his deadly sword
that he forgives excesses
and will not our prayers reject.
There was rumor in Gomorrah,
to that very same effect.
A friend avers that government,
has all our cares in mind.
And will not neglect the comfort of
the poor, the halt, the blind.
he maintains unreservedly,
his faith in policy.
to bring the fruits of honor to
the strong the just, the free.
he says the great in power seek
the profit of all men
It was mentioned in Treblinka,
but I did not heed it then.
Technology will save us,
i have heard a stranger say.
The wonderment of science,
skill, and tools will win the day.
Our comfort and our safety
we may leave to wise devices.
And men who build and train them up,
will coddle all our vices.
they’ll see the futre clearly
and avert all waiting dooms.
I think I heard it spoken in
Titanic’s smoking rooms.
The forgiveness of the strong is great,
I’m sure most meen agree.
The wisest and the best of us
will surely all be free.
the bold men, wise in letters
with their eye on public weal.
will never be cast out or forced
their knowledge to conceal.
Time alters soon the hearts of kings,
and all will be put right.
I heard it in the Gulag
almost every single night.
So go forth with the banner
of of redemption wafting high
and shout the slogan “Liberty!”
in land and sea and sky.
Of justice, peace, forgiveness, love,
proclaim the coming reign.
And cry the truth to power,
and the vanity of gain
That mercy always triumphs,
and that men will all be free.
Go tell them in Gomorrah,
but you didn’t come from me.
>>67809820
I actually like the art that (indirectly) came out of WW1. I'm no fan of Post-Modernism or whatever people are into, but I can appreciate something that involves skill and creativity.
Related,
I'm hoping to find some good book about 1600s ish British history, early European history, particularly easter European, and something about the American Civil War. I miss reading about history, any suggestions would be great
>>67810262
Saved. Is that Grimshaw? Absolute beauty.
>>67810393
LOL! I think a lot of common people understand that postmodernism and performance art isn't ACTUALLY real art. It's just political bullshit. It reminds me of that image from some modern art installation where someone dropped a glove on the floor and everyone walked around it, unsure if the glove on the floor was part of the art installation. Or that case in Canada with some beauatiful traditionalist museum building getting some glass cube extension on the edge of the building by some Jewish architect.
It's just so insane.
>>67810896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwYQsmZCe1A
>>67809820
Any suggested reading for understanding the decline of art?
I'll give it a shot.
All of the paintings and photographs posted, are of still subjects, and the paintings strive for photorealism.
I partially share the same viewd as you, I think that urinal piece is awful, and that blank white pieces of canvas are just that. So, shit, basically.
But would it really be wrong to start experimenting with exaggeration, or maybe start painting things that aren't true to life, that one paints completely out of imagination? Yes, of course the same standards except realism are still present, but there's a lot of ideas that cannot be observed in real life. I'm not particularly a fan of paintings or photographs that show humans sitting still, doing mundane things with little movement involved. Why couldn't there be fantasy creatures instead, in locations that don't exist, with poses and actions that couldn't possibly imply it was completely still?
>>67802723
This is Hallstatt, Austria
There is a Hallstadt in Germany near Bamberg
>>67810453
I am. Without name dropping, a very important professor at a school I'm affiliated with wasn't given a job he deserved, so Oxford gave him the position at their department.
I aim to be half as good as him at an important school.
a great video for your time, friend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67LlV3Sn2ho&list=PLgmzAuMuTzHSc72UdyVYCBJ-TmiaTBnmp
>>67811098
Sure is Grimshaw. He's got some fantastic works.
Top quality thread OP.
>>67802578
Jaroslav Panuška is a top tier horror artist.
>>67809820
>>67810453
Sorry, I meant pic related.
>>67811168
Watch Roger Scruton's documentary "The Death of Beauty" I think it's called. He's a conservative philosopher.
hermes of praxiteles
Is there a mirror in this painting? Or is it symbolic of something else?
>>67811259
Grimshaw is brilliant. I am also a huge fan of Andrew Wyeth.
>>67811482
This one is really emotional. As is this one.
Swedish king being carried home after dying in battle.
>>67811535
Nikiforos Lytras
Carols
>>67811415
something about the booze and especially the bowl of oranges in this one for some reason really make it timeless for me. seeing a bunch of consumer products on a table at a party takes this out of history and makes it real for me.
>>67802578
God save us, we lost all of this.
>>67811482
>>67811018
Are you an American-dane or whatever you call it since you are posting all this danish stuff? I know there are quite a few of you but i have never met one before.
>>67810635
I'd love to.
Marcel Duchamp was a abstractist, cubist, dadaist, etc.
he created "ready-mades": art that he believed was already partially made but just needed the touch of an artist to make everyday, ordinary objects into art.
He created L.H.O.O.Q. in the 1910s (I cant remember exactly and can't be bothered goggling something so degenerate)
In 1917, he created "The Fountain": a urinal, named something it is not as a funny little joke that art historians who are part-time enormous faggots, like to interpret as philosophically ground-breaking. He signed it with a pen name.
I think Duchamp is the result of Manet's 1863 bomb. Manet was a reformer and wanted to reform the standards of academic art in France, not destroy all notions of objective beauty and aesthetic standards.
Manet was to art what Martin Luther was to Christianity.
Attempted reformer, but ultimately encouraged degeneracy and the ultimate downfall of authority related to their speciality.
Don't get me wrong, I think some art still existed. In a watered-down way, American gothic and the like are quite artistic and beautiful, but in a simplistic way.
But after 1886 and the rise of post-Impressionisms, our notions of art become confused, subjective, and arbitrary.
>>67810526
That's what a woman looks like, dingus.
When i walked toward the altar there was no one there to save
and the holiest of holies was as quiet as the grave
when i held my eldest offspring, and the ones that followed soon,
The stairwells to avernus were as vacant as the moon.
Now i walk beside the tombstones, of those who went before
and I thank those awful absences for deserting this sad shore
for the sure and certain exit, when i come at last to lie
In the still and blessed silence of gehenna when i die.
I don't understand people talking about "degenerate art" as though there are literally no artists doing classical styles anymore
I can walk down the street and find a gallery of things like this from local artists
>>67811766
Nope. Probably got a little bit of Danish blood way back but I'm mostly Norwegian.
>>67811098
Random fact, which you may or may not know:
During the period of the "Biedermeier", it became extremely popular to paint sun sets. This was mainly due to the fact that the eruption of the Tambora in 1815 released enormous amounts of ejecta/aerosols, which caused the sun sets in Europe to display vibrant colors of red and orange.
It also created extremely bad weather, like prolonge winter and rainy summers. These rainy storms caused Mary Shelley, who was in Switzerland at the time to stay in doors for a very long time. She wrote the masterpiece "Frankenstein" during her stay there.
TL;DR: A volcanic eruption gave us a lot of paintings of sun sets and Frankenstein
>>67811535
>Grimshaw is brilliant.
Imagine being this couple though: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321327/Quids-Painting-bought-couple-50-years-ago-100-sells-auction-185-000.html
Had an original Grimshaw hanging in the living room - sold it for 185 000 pounds.
>Paintings like these rarely come onto the market, and this one literally attracted world-wide attention.
>>67811957
That's true, and we're not opposing that. We're opposing degenerate art, new or old. There are great modern artists who make non-degenerate art, like Robert Batefrom from Canada.
>>67802578
>And as always, we invite people who are in favour of degenerate art to come here and argue their points.
Let me play devil's advocate here and argue thus.
Let us suppose for a moment that art, more specifically representative art, is the fusion of the subjectivity of the artist with the objectivity of the subject being represented. What, if we adopt this model, does the artist create when he paints or create something? Surely, it cannot be the subject matter or the theme, since it is objective and does not depend on him. It must, therefore, be the subjective, that which he himself adds to the subject, his own perspective, which is of value, which truly adds something to the piece of art.
Now, how does the subjectivity, the perspective of an artist, manifests itself? It must be in the form of representation of that which is represented. It is not, in other words, a mater of the subject of the painting but matter of the style.
Suppose now that an artist, realizing this dichotomy, wanted to express not so much something about a certain subject matter but something about form itself? In other words, the artist wants to talk, in painting, about its own subjectivity and the pure form of its craft, independently of any theme or subject?
It would be rather abstract.
>>67811660
Great painting! I have always liked it
>>67811048
As can I, but those things became less and less important as the Dadaists encouraged subversion.
>>67811168
read the histories and art texts written by (almost always) British-born, British-educated art historians.
Anything by Brian Sewell.
The shock of the new by robert hughes.
kenneth clarke b/c fuck degeneracy.
>>67810453
Lurking fag here. I have a question; what i always hear is that art should evoke some emotional respose, or symbolise some thing to you. The thing is i don't, i recognize it as being beautiful and somwthing i could never do but seeing all this art does naught but make me jealous, is that normal?
H. Hesse
Im Nebel
Seltsam, im Nebel zu wandern!
Einsam ist jeder Busch und Stein,
Kein Baum sieht den andern,
Jeder ist allein.
Voll von Freunden war mir die Welt,
Als noch mein Leben licht war;
Nun, da der Nebel fällt,
Ist keiner mehr sichtbar.
Wahrlich, keiner ist weise,
Der nicht das Dunkel kennt,
Das unentrinnbar und leise
Von allen ihn trennt.
Seltsam, Im Nebel zu wandern!
Leben ist Einsamsein.
Kein Mensch kennt den andern,
Jeder ist allein.
November 1905
>>67811285
Thanks for the recommendation, greatly appreciated.
Thanks lads I have a download all images extention
>>67812289
Es ist Nacht
Es ist Nacht,
und mein Herz kommt zu dir,
hält's nicht aus,
hält's nicht aus mehr bei mir.
Legt sich dir auf die Brust,
wie ein Stein,
sinkt hinein,
zu dem deinen hinein.
Dort erst,
dort erst kommt es zur Ruh,
liegt am Grund
seines ewigen Du.
(Christian Morgenstern)
>>67811218
très magnifique, ces églises orthodoxes.
>>67811792
What do you think of my argument here? I believe it to be the only way one can both contextualize and defend the more abstract form of arts which, I believe, are attempts to study subjectivity itself independently of an object of representation.
Duchamp and other are, as I see it, "revolutionary artist". Their "art" isn't really about art at all but rather about philosophy. To me, there's a difference between "revolutionary art", art designed to "help" people overcome their bourgeois standard, and abstract art, which is art designed to isolate the subjective activity of the artist.
One of those I consider to be almost complete bullshit.
>>67808038
böcklin is pretty gud desu, pic related is my favourite
>>67812614
>FEC
ma nigga.
love me some Church. His aurora borealis is one of the most under-rated pieces of americana.
>ctrl f
>no Aivazovsky
Hoooo boy, are you guys in for a treat.
>>67811177
The people that would paint that all work for games workshop and wizards of the coast.
>>67812234
You should ask the PhD art history guy in this thread, but anyway, the idea of art "provoking some emotional response" is a modern invention. Art has, throughout history, always been about expressing beauty by means of skill and talent. If anyone can do it, such as splatter menstrual blood on a canvas or shitting in a bucket, it's not art. It's not about expressing something of beauty or expressing skill & talent. Roger Scruton makes a great point of this in his documentary "The Death of Beauty".
You might not personally feel something when you look at a painting, but you understand that it's an extraordinary piece of art that expresses enormous talent and/or beauty. If you remove these essential elements from an art piece - for all practical purposes it is no longer art.
>>67812396
>>67812289
Gottfried Benn
Durch jede Stunde, durch jedes Wort
blutet die Wunde der Schöpfung fort,
verwandelnd Erde und tropft den Seim
ans Herz dem Werde und kehret heim.
Gab allem Flügel, was Gott erschuf,
den Skythen die Bügel dem Hunnen den Huf
- nur nicht fragen, nur nicht verstehn;
den Himmel tragen, die weitergehn,
nur diese Stunde ihr Sagenlicht
und dann die Wunde, mehr gibt es nicht.
Die Äcker bleichen, der Hirte rief,
das ist das Zeichen: tränke dich tief,
den Blick in Bläue, ein Ferngesicht:
das ist die Treue, mehr gibt es nicht,
Treue den Reichen, die alles sind,
Treue dem Zeichen, wie schnell es rinnt,
ein Tausch, ein Reigen, ein Sagenlicht,
ein Rausch aus Schweigen, mehr gibt es nicht.
This threads are the comfiest, and I'm clad they exist.
The greatest piece of art ever created is Alejandro Jodorowsky's The Holy Mountain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gojrtr5VxIU
>>67812062
Ah, just as good! Danes and Norwegians are the same people.
It sucks how we have gone away from objectly good paintings and art
>>67812875
>>67812701
>Duchamp and other are, as I see it, "revolutionary artist". Their "art" isn't really about art at all but rather about philosophy.
I actually agree with this. I don't think it's about art at all, I think it's about subversion and undermining the authority held by academics who necessitated standards of aesthetic values and objective beauty.
I still enjoy some art which I presume you'd believe to be "revolutionary" if for nothing other than the tickle I get thinking someone made that, i.e. Dali, etc. Still very interesting, still represent something I can visually recognize, still makes me feel something.
abstract art is complete bullshit, full of elitist attitudes and a way for merchant's (and now arabs too!) to funnel their dirty money.
>>67812234
>is that normal?
Art is an opportunity to learn something about yourself. If your reaction is jealousy, then it says something about you, which is an occasion for further study.
>>67806983
I like Friberg's artwork.
>>67812111
That's interesting! Thanks for the story. Reminds of the theory that an enormous volcanic eruption during the 600s gave rise to sult cult religions on northern Europe (this was long before Christianity).
>>67813045
Yes, it sucks, but there are handful of people still standing up for it. Alexander Stoddart openly opposes degenerate art, and he's the Royal Sculptor for the Queen of England.
First for Riemenschneider
Laguna Beach, CA. This place is gorgeous IRL and Orange County in general.
>>67813143
He didn't just do Mormon subject material.
>>67812234
aloha, yank. our swedish friend
>>67812955
gave you an answer that I couldn't have said better myself.
also swede-bro, if you have the time, make another thread and I'll be happy to join.
It kind of saddens me that most modern art, even good modern art, is computer made, instead of painted.
Here's an example.
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>>67804782
>Medusa
SIMPLY GOOGLE KASICH SOROS FUNDING
>http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/soros-money-funding-kasichs-presidential-bid/
KASICH IS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS
WHY DOES NO ONE COVER THIS???
THAT TELLS YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHATS GOING ON
LETS MEME MAGIC GEORGE SOROS INTO THE GRAVE WITH THE DANCING SKELETON OF MAGA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRNxg-dTpPs
DEATH WILL COME IF YOU MENTALLY PROJECT "GO SKELETON GO"
MAKE SOROS THREADS!
SPREAD SOROS KNOWLEDGE ON NORMIE MEDIA... THEY HAVE NO CLUE... BLM, RIOTS, MOVEON, KASICH FUNDING, BUSH FUNDING, BROKERED CONVENTION SCHEME ETC. ETC.
DONT LET THEM SLIDE SOROS THREADS HERE AND HIDE THE TRUTH
HE IS THE FINAL BOSS... NOT HILLARY OR ANY OF HIS PUPPETS
DONT FORGET KASICH SIGNED ON TO THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND IS PRO OPEN BORDERS
FIGHT
MAGA
>>67809494
i feel like it expresses powerlessness, loneliness, or something challenging
feels as if there's more in life than your ego
>>67813229
>German Renaissance sculptor
god damn, you've got some good taste
>>67812979
The holy mountain clearly is degenerate
>shitting on camera
>jodorowski intended to film a real birth
>''jesus'' actor was on heroin 24/7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKCvpKelEyc
>>67813045
I don't get this meme.
You realize hyperrealism has been the biggest art movement in drawing, painting and sculpture for the past 10 years?
Personally I find hyperrealism boring because it's about technical skill and nothing more. But if "objectively good" to you means realistic looking, then you should be celebrating the contemporary art scene. Photorealism is more popular now than it has been since impressionism supplanted the Romantics and Realists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperrealism_%28visual_arts%29
I've been looking for a painting that has a woman in front of a window laying in sheets or something. She's bathed in sunlight and at first I didn't recognize it as painted.
Anyone know which one I mean? Haven't been able to find it, but I know it has been posted here before like a year ago.
>>67813143
Everyone he paints is larger than life. The LDS church used to his artwork exclusively to illustrate Book of Mormon copies.
>>67813307
Thanks! We got a lot into art "theory" in previous threads and that was great. I really think performance art for example is completely indefensible for the most part.
We've tried making follow-up threads before but it hasn't been so successful. A lot of people leave when the first one is full unfortunately.
>>67813388
>The Northern Land
That's great. Reminds of this one, which is a photograph but still.
>>67807295
Pisschrist is the actual name of the "artwork". It's actually a picture of a plastic Jesus Christ in a jar of urine.
I know you probably think its degen, but i honestly think, from a modern day artist (especially street artist, it just gets me)
Banksy
Love the thread btw
>>67813755
Do a new thread, I just got in and have a lot to dump
>>67809494
This.
It's like looking at a Steam sale every time I see these images with giant planets in the background.
>>67802578
Too much Art that actually requires effort in their work in this thread.
Heres some perfectly acceptable and just as valid modern art. :^)
>>67813101
I still think abstract art can have value. I just think the artistic community should recognize that it's something they can't really push unto anybody outside of their own tribe. It artist's art. It's a study of pure form that's not even supposed to be accessible to an ordinary person.
Abstract art, to me, is to representative art what formal logic is to physics.
But revolutionary art, and I don't consider to surrealist to be part of that crowd, is a one trick pony. The whole enterprise can be summed up by the question "what is art really?", with the demoralizing insinuation that the only possible answer is "whatever we say it is". The goal, of course, is to "liberate" the bourgeoisie from its falsely held notions of beauty, artistic standard and so on. I understand that their rational for doing so is that the abolition of those standard are supposed to bring about something better, but this hasn't materialized and the only thing they've managed to accomplish is to make ordinary people loose faith in their own culture by making unfashionable to believe that art could be something pleasing, interesting, uplifting. These are just plebeian taste for the uninitiated peasant, which now has to contribute some its tax dollar to support piece of shit artists who have nothing but contempt for what they like.
Truly, I do hate revolutionary artists.
>>67813651
This one, or something like it? >>67807303
>>67805619
I'm sorry, frogbro.
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>>67811218
Beautiful.
I was going to try and reply to them all but almost every post in this thread is fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37osHg_NA4
>>67813755
I'll keep any eye out, nonetheless. Always love these threads.
>>67813316
Fuck off with that degenerate crap.
>Max limit of images replies has been reached.
Geirr Tveitt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9079w0iJk&list=PLx_6ImPsDrmyC24sTlOpVwstImm3SV98M
>>67813987
I disagree. I think abstract art is the most accessible. You don't need to understand the symbolism behind things or the technical mastery of certain strokes. You just enjoy the art as pure form and the feeling it evokes.
That's why something like Battleship Potemkin is a far more effective and affective film than a James Cameron blockbuster.
>>67813987
that's fine if you consider abstract art "art for artists" but it still takes less skill, does away with any reasonable interpretation of objectivism, and can only appear as worthy or good art by subjective opinion.
It's also highly subversive and elitist, so it's not my cup of tea.
great theory you're working out though, you really seem to have put thought into it! I love that. I want more people involved in art and history, especially since the west has such a wonderful treasure-trove of a past.
>>67813987
Great post.
We've brought this up before. That modern art is basically just a political statement, brought out by the political left. It is entirely in line with their ideology at large - exceptionalism or someone else being better than you is to be removed. If everyone can't make art, if only the talented and skilled and hard workers can, then the standard for what constitutes art must be removed, to make art 'equal'.
>>67814375
Einar Englund
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETZXx8P9t80
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>>67814598
Mahler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZ51udFtrg
>>67814176
>image limit reached
Lame! I just started posting after looking at everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5DpXNGTsQg
>>67807935
It's hard to believe white people lived like that just over a hundred years ago. Now cities are synonymous with minorities and riots.
>>67814398
>I disagree. I think abstract art is the most accessible. You don't need to understand the symbolism behind things or the technical mastery of certain strokes. You just enjoy the art as pure form and the feeling it evokes.
How do you figure? If we're gonna agree that every representative painting out there is the mixing of a subject and of the subjectivity of the artist, the expression of which is through pure form, then we'll also agree that every painting, whether representative or not, contains said pure form.
If your argument is then that pure form can create a degree of enjoyment in and of themselves, then it follow that even representative art will create said "automatic" enjoyment, mixed in with the thematic evocation of whatever is being represented. Furthermore, I don't think every representative piece of art is "symbolic" or rely on some sort of secret visual vocabulary one has to know in advance in order to fully appreciate.
>>67814543
And abolition of standards is completely in-line with that ideology. "Art is what I say it is."
new thread anyone?
>>67814375
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>>67814848
Accept your master
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAROWiX5MGw
>>67814454
Thanks. The reason I developed these ideas about art, I think, is because I wanted to explain the poverty of photography as an art form.
The reason it sucks so fucking bad, in my view, is because there is very little wiggle room for the expression of any subjectivity on the part of the artist. The camera is a adds very few elements of subjectivity to what is being represented, and thus does no go beyond our ordinary perception, nor does it communicate any perspective to us.
It's an art form without plus value. The question I had was "why"?
>>67807303
That's nice, but no.
It's very bright and it gives the feeling of literally overflowing with sunlight.
>>67814898
in terms of scenery, most major architecture has gone to utter shit.
But who knows, maybe in the future it will be even worse and the people in 2100 will be envying us
