Which president is trump closest to?
Teddy and FDR?
>>67800346
Dude he's the most like Hitler, how can you not see that?
Andrew Jackson
>>67800497
Explain how Trump is like Hitler.
Are you fucking stupid? Trump is nothing like any of those people. If anything, he's Nixon.
>>67800346
>FDR
No, he's not a total fucking faggot.
Andrew Jackson is the only reasonable answer.
>>67800594
Nixon was a career politician. They share some policy similarities, but their backgrounds are entirely different.
>>67800594
nah, TR is probably the best comparison in a lot of ways. Macho, nationalist and somewhat liberal/populist economically not to mention white upper class NYC upbringing.
Nixon is nothing like Trump, he was much more conservative on social/moral issues
>>67800581
Are you being serious right now? It's so obvious. Wow.
>>67800581
they are both fascists
>>67800594
Yes, he is. Trump is an authoritarian and wants tarrifs. The same shit teddy and roosevelt did.
Trump is not a free market fetishist, you stupid cucks.
>>67800581
He's scapegoating a small group of people by claiming they're controlling the economy and draining it for their own interests.
Wait, that's Bernie Sanders. Shit, sorry.
>>67800548
Please don't compare Jackson to someone getting spooked by a charging bernie fanboy
>>67800760
>TR is probably the best comparison in a lot of ways. Macho, nationalist and somewhat liberal/populist economically not to mention white upper class NYC upbringing.
Exactly
>>67800581
Trump and Hitler are right wing reactionary, conservative, militant, nationalistic fascists who appeal to people's baser instincts of fear and hatred, demogogue a particular religion they don't like and blame the weakest and most vulnerable in society for its economic problems.
The main difference between Trump and Hitler is that Hitler hated Jews while Trump loves Jews. His own daughter is Jewish.
>>67800811
How did FDR impose tariffs?
Teddy. Trump will have a great white fleet moment. Cap this.
>>67800346
political support wise, andrew jackson.
policy and background wise? probably grover cleveland
Trump is a clone of Nelsen Rockefeller
>>67800811
Teddy was a progressive populist, Trump is a right-wing nationalist. There's a huge difference.
>>67800937
>KEKED POST
>CHECKS FLAG
A FUCKING LEAF EVERY DAMN TIME.
You're like the cuckold version of the Jews.
>>67800792
>wanting to make america great again
>ITS FASCISM
remove yourself from my sight
>>67800854
Top kek
Mussolini
>>67800937
>Hitler being right wing
>forgetting how much of a flaming lefty he really was
>forgetting the Nazis stood for national SOCIALISM
>>67801074
Teddy was also a nationalist.
Teddy was progressive for that time period. He is still to the right by today's standards.
Fucking hell, I know more about your own presidents than you do. American fucking education.
>>67800346
His personality is most like LBJ, it's not even a question. Overbearing personality with populist politics.
>>67800581
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
>>67801018
If anything he ran against them, one of his promises in 1932 was getting rid of Smoot-Hawley.
>>67801345
Don't be an idiot. Teddy was a progressive for his time, but Trump is NOT progressive for his time.
If Trump was like Teddy, then Teddy would have been way more right-wing than he actually was.
Teddy's nationalism was, again, due to the time period in which he lived. The comparison is bullshit.
Bottom line: Teddy was a progressive warrior, a hero for the common man, and an environmentalist. Trump is a fucking pandering fascist piece of shit.
>>67801235
>forgetting that north Korea is called the DEMOCRATIC people's REPUBLIC.
Golly gee cleetus, it says democratic and Republic in their name! It must be so!
American education strikes again.
>>67801116
Not an argument
>You're like the cuckold version of the Jews.
No I'm nothing like Trump's family.
If Trump was like Teddy, then he would break up the big banks. There's no way in hell Trump is going to do that.
>>67800581
He's fucking white male!
>>67800650
FDR MADE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN AFTER THE DEPRESSION BY INVESTING IN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, REINING IN WALL STREET, AND CREATING SOCIAL SAFTEY NET.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT SANDERS WANTS TO DO!!!
WHY DOESNT ANYONE CONNECT THE FUCKING DOTS????
>>67801235
>Murican intellectuals
Doesn't even know that the Nazis were far right wing fascists.
Hitler hated socialists you fucking moron. Have you ever actually listened to one of his speeches? The Nazis killed socialists.
How much of a fucking retarded Murican intellectual do you have to be, to not know that the Nazis were far right?
>>67801735
>this is what brainwashed socialists actually believe
FDR prolonged the Depression and was only saved by military spending in WWII
>>67801653
I never said he's exactly like teddy, you fucking neckbeard autists. The keyword is "closest" to.
>>67801467
I know. I was waiting for that retard to claim that FDR passed HOOT-SMALLEY. It's a common right wing talking point.
All these retards have are their flawed and debunked talking points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1kvcf4w-M
>>67800346
Trump is Andrew Jackson
>Washington, DC Establishment is terrified of him winning
>Total populist
>Liberals think both of them are racist (although Jackson adopted a native american daughter)
>Jackson caused Trail of Tears in kicking Indians out of the South
>Trump will cause Trail of Tears 2.0 in kicking out all the illegals
>Jackson ignored the Supreme Court after they ruled one of his actions unconstitutional
>Trump will ignore the Supreme Court after they rule many of his actions unconstitutional
>Adjusting for inflation Jackson's plantation /wealth would make him a billionaire by today's standards
>Trump is a billionaire from real estate
And last
>Jackson had politicians take away his victory through Congress
>GOP Establishment trying to steal Trump's victory through a brokered convention
>>67800854
>defending your wealthy masters
Typical /pol/ bootlicking shrouded in "We're gonna be strong tough men like weve always wanted to!" doublethink
>>67801911
>this is what people that listen to the Mises institute believe
>>67800905
>reacts by moving towards the threat
Yeah he was really spooked alright
This person probably also believes hitler wanted to protect the entire white race and was pro-chrisitan. >>67801847
You follow Klan doctine not nazi doctine you tool.
>>67802051
Harding and Coolidge did nothing when the market took a serious downturn and the economy promptly self-corrected. Hoover and FDR fucked around when the market took a serious downturn and created a decade long depression.
>>67800346
President Huey Long
He seems like a combo of Ronald Reagan and JFK, in many ways
>>67801911
FDR ended the Republican Great Depression you moron. Every single economic indicator IMPROVED once the New Deal was enacted.
Republicans need to stop crashing the economy then complain that it's taking Democrats too long to clean up their mess.
>>67802019
>implying I was defending anything
Project harder
>>67801979
Saying Trump is similar to Teddy is an insult. Trump panders to the lowest common denominator. He built his campaign off of grabbing at low-hanging fruit. The comparison is bullshit, and I never want to hear it again.
>>67801996
Not to mention
>Jackson didn't trust the central bank (aka the Jews of his time) and dismantled it.
>Trump also said he'd want to investigate the Fed and clearly, secretly also doesn't trust Jews
>>67802454
well teddy was a faggot so whatever
>>67802454
Boohoo, find a hug box you fucking baby
Mfw there're other informed liberals waging a noble war on the ignorant Trumpets of pol
>>67802454
>Trump panders to the lowest common denominator.
you sure that's trump?
>>67802258
>Harding and Coolidge did nothing when the market took a serious downturn and the economy promptly self-corrected
What year was this?
>>67800346
Ike and Jackson
>people ITT not realizing Trump = Jackson
>>67802832
Make her feel the Bern
>>67801847
>Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
>National Socialist German Worker's Party
>Not socialist
It's hard to tell when Canadians are baiting. Each and every one is so stupid and terrible at posting in general.
>>67802832
Did she really say that? lol
>>67801510
Let's be real, North Korea is just as free as the united kaliphate you hail from.
>>67801847
>far right
You forget Hitler was a vegan pussy who enacted some of the most hardcore leftist policies.
>>67800548
I fucking wish, dude. Trail of Beaner Tears when?
>>67803395
>he doesn't know that Hitler used the word socialist to appeal to the working class and to steal votes from the socialist/communist parties
It's always Americans spewing this dumb meme. Your education system is a joke and so is your political culture, that's why you all spew such retarded shit.
>>67803495
>Let's be real, North Korea is just as free as the united kaliphate you hail from
This is an American attempting banter.
What's wrong? Did I make you feel dumber than usual?
>>67800346
Eisenhower in theory.
Probably Berlusconi in practice (I know - Not A President)
>>67801510
Democracy is an ambiguous term meaning "ruled by the people". Any government can claim that it is ruled by the people, as any government can claim that it has the public's support and that they would choose their government if given the choice. That has nothing to do with socialism. Secondly, the DPRK is a republic.
You attach arbitrary values to these terms because you're a bastardous European who thinks only with emotion. Please return to your Muslim wastelands, Muhammad.
>>67804526
At least they don't need a TV license.
>>67800594
He's nothing like Nixon in any way except for his affect on the public.
>>67804454
Why would a fascist with complete domination over the country need to "steal votes"? Or are you suggesting that they adopted the name to steal votes and then never changed it? And that nobody bothered to ask why? How foolish. Nazi Germany wasn't so cartoonish. And in Hitler's speeches he constantly rants about how the government will take care of the public in entirely socialist manners. Any examination of Nazi policies will inevitably yield socialist examples.
Attack my nationality all you want, island humper. I care little for the opinions of barbarians.
>>67802758
>informed
Know what a word means before using it.
>>67804926
He didn't have complete domination of the country in the 1920s did he, you fucking special needs kid.
That's when the name was changed. SPECIFICALLY as a tactical response to battle the communists.
Want me to school you some more fat boy?
>>67805467
But Hitler didn't only rule in the 1920s did he, you common Brit?
Show me the changing of the name, by the way. Tell me when it happened, tell me what reasons were given, especially tell me how Hitler was responsible. If you can do all of these things, the burden of proof will shift from you.
Then again, you're a European. It's like asking the wind to blow in my sails. You people haven't had need of critical thinking in a long time.
>>67805729
>But Hitler didn't only rule in the 1920s did he, you common Brit?
Jesus fucking Christ.
Murican education everybody.
>>67806882
Tell me what was wrong with the statement or kill yourself.
>>67805729
>But Hitler didn't only rule in the 1920s did he, you common Brit?
He didn't rule AT ALL in the 1920s. He wasn't elected until the 30s, you tit.
Why change the name? It's an established party. When they changed it the first time, it was unknown.
>Show me the changing of the name, by the way. Tell me when it happened, tell me what reasons were given, especially tell me how Hitler was responsible. If you can do all of these things, the burden of proof will shift from you.
Why are you trying to debate about the nazi party without even elementary knowledge of the nazi party, that you could get from a fucking wikipedia article?
>>67807225
Obviously he didn't rule in the 1920s. Hence my point. We're talking about Hitler, so your attempt to tie the discussion to the 1920s was made to look irrelevant. Please do stay on topic.
Anyway: Are you having trouble supporting your claim? You made the claim, so you can surely back it up. No need to play coy. Just tell me what you were referring to. It isn't hard. I asked for a few specific details that, frankly, you should have provided from the beginning. Do it or say nothing.
I'm sure you'll just huff and puff while going "I literally just can't even" and then run away while telling yourself that you just couldn't be bothered, though. It always ends up that way.
>>67800346
Reagan probably
never really held office before, movie star, entire party feared him because they thought he'd push the red button at a moments notice
>>67805729
p.s.
Opposition to Marxism, communism, and leftism was a founding tenet of the party.
The nazi's had some ''socialist'' policies (not really socialism, just common fucking sense), like free healthcare. But ONLY for German ''Aryans''.
That is the complete antithesis of leftism. Everyone is equal according to the left, you can't exclude people from society because they were not ''Aryans''.
>>67802258
Yeah but the central bank expanded the money supply shortly before the recession of 1920 ended. Look it up shekeltarian
>>67807505
Go read a basic history of the party, you lazy fuck. I've just told you. I'm not going to go and quote mine for you.
>>67807570
They opposed Marxism, obviously, but that doesn't mean they wanted to be the opposite of it. They conflated Marxism with Judaism and generally hated the more extreme form of socialism that it advocated.
And your other point is completely invalid. The Soviets sent people to GULags and constantly executed people. Were they equal? Does that mean that the USSR was right wing? It's foolish. The left-right paradigm is not based on notions of equality, it is based on government in practice. Two governments of equal power and structure could oppress or liberate any group of people as they pleased. It's a matter of chance when a government isn't restricted. Obviously.
>>67807721
By which you mean that you lack the information and your view is too vulnerable for you to actively search out new information.
Buddy, what you're doing isn't new. You make a claim and then pretend like it's so obvious that it doesn't need to be supported with evidence. Every sophist in the world has done it. If what you say is so obvious then it should be easy to provide evidence for. Only someone who is wrong would have difficulty. The fact of the matter is that all spectators are more taken with my arguments, as you sputter about how what you say is obvious while I offer actual reasoning.
>>67807900
>And your other point is completely invalid. The Soviets sent people to GULags and constantly executed people. Were they equal? Does that mean that the USSR was right wing? It's foolish. The left-right paradigm is not based on notions of equality, it is based on government in practice. Two governments of equal power and structure could oppress or liberate any group of people as they pleased. It's a matter of chance when a government isn't restricted. Obviously.
They didn't exclude people on the basis of race. Most the people they sent were anti-communists or people they deemed traitors. You didn't go to gulags on the basis of race.
What does the American definition of socialism even amount to? Nothing, it's fucking meaningless. Just a buzzword.
No historian thinks Hitler was a leftist. Or anyone that has even read anything about Hitler by fucking Hitler.
You didn't even know the party changed its name and thought Hitler ruled in the 20s. Not going to waste with a guy that's arrogant enough to try to debate while he doesn't even know the basic fucking facts.
>>67800346
Out of these two id have to say Teddy because he's nothing like fdr.
But he reminds me more of Reagan. (Former Democrat) (Eloquently outspoken) (Highly calculated) (Political outsider, for the most part) (Make America Great Again was a Reagan slogan) (Popular among Republicans and Democrats)
>>67808281
Who cares whether they were excluded on the basis of race or not? I thought you were talking about equality. Does it not matter if people are forcibly starved so long as it isn't done on the basis of race? How foolish. Your tangled net of inconsistencies is being cut apart.
And who cares about the American definition of socialism? I never posited one. I merely poked holes in yours.
And that bit about "no historian" thinking Hitler was a leftist is just a bandwagon appeal and a minor appeal to authority.
And I'm still waiting for your evidence regarding the name thing. And I'm highly amused that you are doing exactly as I predicted and vacating the thread while sputtering about how you just can't even argue.
If this were real life, I would point at you and laugh like the buffoon you are.
>>67808281
>socialized healthcare
That's a socialist policy that Hitler enabled.
>>67808748
>That's a socialist policy that Hitler enable
That doesn't change the overall trajectory of the entire ideology, you thicko.
>>67809291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o&t=101
Which was socialism.
>>67808711
>And I'm still waiting for your evidence regarding the name thing. And I'm highly amused that you are doing exactly as I predicted and vacating the thread while sputtering about how you just can't even argue.
I already told you right at the beginning, I'm not going to go quote mine for you.
Yeah? I've been laughing at how stupid you are from the beginning.
You don't even know elementary history about the Nazi party, yet you've already concluded what they are or aren't. That tells me everything I need to know about you: you're dumb.
>>67809341
No. It wasn't. It was fascism, which is a radical right-wing response to socialism/communism.
I'm sorry you were born with such a low IQ.
>>67809534
You "told me" per say, but you never provided evidence. You just posited the claim and then refused to elaborate every time. Would you care to do so at some point? I'm still waiting.
To motivate you: Picture yourself on a large stage with a podium in front of you, with myself on another podium to your right. Picture a huge audience listening, wondering why you don't seem to be able to even give a single bit of evidence for your point. Picture them growing restless and demanding for the farce to end. Maybe that will tell you that this is a live or die moment for your entire platform. Continuing to sputter about how you don't need to prove yourself right will only cause you to be booed off the stage.
>>67800937
and obama wasn't a reactionary cuckunist.? he'd commonly use scare tactics to push his agenda and when he was put under scrutiny his ideas would fall apart because of their unfeasiblity and lack of basis in reality.
>>67809695
Please actually view the video excerpt I have provided. I went to all the trouble of providing proof, and you just ignored it. How rude.
>>67800346
Putin.
>>67800581
Wait, you're asking me to tell you how Donald Trump is like Hitler? Are you kidding me?
Like, wow, that is just like wow... like, seriously, take note of my expression, I am smiling and laughing about this, and it's not because I can't think of a reason why Trump is like Hitler, it's because I'm genuinely flabbergasted you don't agree with my opinion. Like, I have to assume you are kidding me, because it's just like, wow.
>>67800346
Stephen Douglas
>>67809991
Everything he says in that speech is not communism or socialism. In fact, it only serves to prove my original point further: Hitler appealed to the working class.
You dumb fucks don't seem to understand that there was a real possibility of revolutions in Europe at that point. The ruling elite in Europe did everything they could, EVEN FASCISM, to prevent that from happening.
>>67810429
The hell are you talking about? When he goes on about his "great charity" and how everybody must give and sacrifice and how the workers must not have their labor stolen from them? You're really just trying to say that it was all talk? Why do you lie to yourself?
