>even in absolute dream case scenario Trump still loses
Theres literally 0% chance Trump wins the election. Why are you people in such denial?
>>67762943
>absolute dream scenario
>PA blue
>OH blue
>IA blue
and with Trump, who will appeal to the industrial heartlands
>MI blue
>WI blue
Kill yourself shill
I know this is just a bait thread, but as a New Yorker I can tell you we can easily go Red.
>>67763261
So the Vegas bookies are also "shills", right?
>>67762943
sorry gypo faggot but your behind the times. this isnt even a dream scenario its the most likely one as per current voter turn out and 2014 election cycle results the mid terms
>>67763472
Are these the same bookies who had Jeb! odds on to become the nominee until January?
>>67763582
FL goes red if PA and OH do
because this
>>67763472
>So the Vegas bookies are also "shills", right?
yeah, by definition
>>67762943
Geez, the shills are out full force lately.
Hillary is going to get btfo so bad. They both know eachother pretty well. The only difference is that Trump is a pretty square dude while Hillary is an absolute degenerate. If it comes down to a shit flinging contest, I'd put money on Trump having the most ammunition.
I'm not going to say that a Trump victory is certain so as to not end up on one of those "/pol/ BTFO" screenshots compiling posts like that, like people did with Romney in 2012, but dream case scenario includes Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Iowa red, and possibly even New York. Also I think Colorado's going to be blue no matter what.
>>67763472
This is simply pricing in a split republican party, with either TRUMP or an establishment candidate breaking off and running as a third party candidate.
>>67763933
New voters have propelled TRUMP to the nomination and will take him to the WHITE House, making America great again.
>>67763933
Republican candidates and party leaders have touted high voter turnout in the GOP primary as a good sign for the general election, but conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks isn’t so sure.
"There’s no correlation between primary turnout and wins in the fall in the last 11 elections," Brooks said on Meet the Press on March 6.
Is Brooks right that the GOP’s numbers, which surpass Democratic turnout, mean little for the general election?
We didn’t hear back from Brooks, but the data shows and experts agree that more votes in the nominating contests aren’t necessarily harbingers of November victories.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/mar/06/david-brooks/david-brooks-said-primary-turnout-doesnt-predict-g/
>>67764567
Trump owns New York, literally.
Trump literally has a 0% chance of winning the nomination. Why are you people in such denial?
>>67762943
Even if it is unlikely that Trump would win I still wouldn't vote for Ted Cruz and Hillary. Go fuck yourself.
>>67763933
In 1984, for example, the Democratic primary turned out about three times more voters than the Republican primary. Nonetheless, President Ronald Reagan won re-election with almost 60 percent of the popular vote.
>>67763376
is that True? I know NYC is a liberal cancer, it's like our San Francisco here in California. But most of the state is actually red. what are the odds?
>>67763582
I assume Vermont was a misclick friendo
Also, Florida is a lock-in, certainly if fucking Wisconsin and Pennsylvania go red
MI will flip before NH, VA, or NV
Also, why are people making such normal maps? This is a realigning election, the current trends will be broken. Hillary will probably take Texas and some plains states while Trump will flip blue states.
>>67763881
h-h-e still has a chance with the brokered convention!!!!!
>>67765156
>Hillary will probably take Texas
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Not even the Eternal Wetback wants that "thing" to be president.
>>67763933
In the six elections where there were contests on both sides, the party with the higher primary voter turnout won the popular vote just three times. In 1976, 1992 and 2008, Democratic primary turnout surpassed that of the GOP nominating race, and the Democratic candidates won the general election.
>>67765156
Are you seriously saying that Texas is going to go blue in the general election just because they voted Cruz in the primaries?
>>67765076
New york can't go red because nyc and rochester
it's not going to happen
nyc is full of smug trump haters. they would rather yell then listen and i'll move out as soon as I can
>>67765076
Population of NY is 19.5million
Population of NYC is 8.5million
General election turnout is 6.5million
4m Democrat
2.5m Republican
It is popular to hear Republicans say "NY is always Blue because of NYC so I don't bother voting"
Trump just needs to campaign and he can easily win, he can even break even in the City because that is his home turf. Noone even likes Hillary in NY even though she was our Senator, the City elected her. I have union member family that worked with Trump in the city and they say that he would buy them coffee and stuff when they worked on his jobs. He has alot of sway here.
im just glad i will see hillary clinton in the white house
>>67763933
Higher than normal turnout in the primary is a sign of division, you mong.
The democratic nominee is Hilary. It was from the beginning. Bernie did surprisingly well but Hillary has been coasting to victory this whole time.
The Republican field is an absolute clusterfuck, hence more people voting for more candidates which will lead to more people NOT voting in the general for the guy they didn't like in the primary.
>>67765073
that was a re-election.
you have to fuck up pretty bad and not be black to lose one of those.
>>67762943
Wisconsin, Michigan, New Mexico, and Ohio are going red, maybe Iowa too.
>>67763933
>>67765600
NM has far too many spics to ever go red. NV is getting to be the same way
>>67762943
>Implying CA will not go red this year for an actor
>>67765600
dubs comfirm how retarded you are.
>>67765459
>Despite holding a wide lead among Republican New York voters in the race for the GOP nomination, Donald Trump would get crushed in a hypothetical general election matchup with Hillary Clinton in the state, a new poll released Monday shows.
Clinton would beat the outspoken real estate magnate in the Empire State 57% to 34%, the latest Siena Research Institute poll found.
>>67765600
I doubt Iowa will go red, it's the worst state in the country, but MI and WI are definitely fair game if it's Hillary vs Trump. In any other scenario MI stays blue, especially for Bernie.
>>67765711
Thank you Kim Jong Un I respect your opinion, too bad general election polls in March don't mean shit and he hasn't campaigned or rallied here once.
t. An American (let alone an actual New Yorker)
>>67764948
>(((David Brooks)))
>>67765720
Bascially this, Trump needs any one of these three to turn which is not at all outside the realms of possibility
>Ohio
>Not going red
Top kekkles
PA is a long shot but Ohio is going red for certain
Is New Jersey completely out of the question, even for a Trump/Christie ticket? My instincts say yes but I can't figure out why
>>67765962
He's actually beating Hillary by a lot in Colorado, 8-11 points I think. I wouldn't consider GE polls to be reliable by a long shot but it's enough to leave CO gray. On the downside VA is gray/blue, not a guaranteed state for Trump.
>>67766116
Philly not only drags our state down with dindus, it also drags us down by making us blue
>>67762943
Most people who are Democrats are against war crimes and mass murder of innocent people.
Most people who are Democrats are uneducated and uninformed about what Hillary Clinton did when she was Secretary of State.
When Trump starts talking more about her destruction and pillage of Libya and her support of Al Qaeda terrorists in Syria, a lot of left-wing people will switch over to Trump, especially because he is very vocal against US aggression against Libya and Syria.
He's already accused her of killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people (100% truth). I can guarantee you after the first debate when Libya and Syria come up Clinton's poll numbers will tank by double digits.
>>67762943
Op it's a mistake to look on the 2016 elections along the party lines assuming it will be Hillary vs Trump. A lot of Democrats will probably go across party lines and vote Trump because ultimately he is not a real Republican.
Same goes for the Republicans, a good number of them might end up voting for Clinton because at this point the difference between a establishment Democrat and a moderate Republican is virtually non existent.
Still I would not be surprise if the general elections turn into a three way or even four way contest.
PA's going red, pal
>>67763376
As a Chicagoan I think IL will go red desu.
>mfw 2014 gubernatorial election
>>67762943
>ILLINOIS
>BLUE
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GROWING
>>67766328
shutup faggot, PA would be flyover if it wasnt for philly
and PA is going red this year
>>67766863
>>67766949
But wouldn't be the turnout for presidential election be higher than in gubernatorial?
>>67767191
Flyover states feed those fucking degenerate liberal cities that hate "flyover" states you goddamn tic tac dicked nip.
>>67762943
>Republicans have no chance
>why even try, just give it to a Democrat without a fight
>>67762943
We're all stuck with Hillary, the Albanian shill.
>>67767864
MY FUCKING SIDES
>>67766116
>FL red
>realistic
lmao.
>>67767987
Obongo only won Florida by a 0.5% margin last time, and the Repub primary turnout was half a million votes higher than the Dem one
Don't you have a Bahnhof to be lurking around, Mehmet
>>67766305
>Virginia might go blue
please no I couldn't handle another 4 years of shame.
>>67769073
>Don't you have a Bahnhof to be lurking around, Mehmet
Mehmets are Indians. We are all Mohammeds here.
>>67762943
Masshole here. We're closer to going red then we've ever been.
>>67763933
remember that white voters are going to be blocked from voting once the real election starts
>>67764567
Colorado is difficult to call anon, the fact that we cancelled our republican caucus makes polling even more difficult. From my experience every republican is firmly a trump supporter so he won't be lacking any support. On the other hand almost every democrat is all aboard the Bernie train. I've met several who firmly refuse to vote for Hillary and a few who would vote trump just to spite her. Sadly the key issue for both parties is to promise pot stays legal here. Berniefags because they love to smoke it and republicans because we love the tax revenue and refund checks it produces
Trump sucks and he is a big fat cuck.
>>67762943
>O-oh shit, no matter how we shill, Trump's support grows!
>I know! We'll spam /pol/ with false threads about him losing to the Democrats that he is directly stealing votes from and tripling voter turnout in the caucuses and primaries of blue states!
Go away shill, shoo shoo.
>>67765962
PA here. The cities are holding us down, but we have the third largest rural population in the country. Gonna be interesting to say the least.
>>67771935
>no matter how hard we push our Trump meme Hilldog easily stumps him in the polls
Try harder.
>>67762943
your problem is IL which can very likely go red this year. i wouldn't say that about any other candidate than trump. they just elected a red governor.
>>67772386
This picture again. It's WAY too early to poll on who will win. Pic related
>>67765355
>>67765269
>>67765156
Texas voted Cruz because Trump is too liberal.
There's no way Hillary will win Texas.
>>67772861
>seriously comparing Trump to Reagan
How desperate are you?
Trump is going to lose big.
>>67763376
>but as a New Yorker I can tell you we can easily go Red.
Fucking delusional. NY hasn't gone red in 32 years, and we have a much more progressive electorate than we did then. He has no chance.
>>67767530
And those "liberal cities" keep the economy stimulated enough so that those flyover states can continue to do nothing.
Stop acting like an edgy faggot, the country needs big cities.
>>67771401
>One polling station
Obama won in an electoral landslide.
>>67766863
For your sake, I hope it does
>>67773778
Michigan hasn't gone red since 1988. Wisconsin hasn't gone red since 1984.
>>67766863
>Using a mid-term election as a baseline for a Presidential election
Found the political newbie. U.S. politics doesn't work that way.
>>67767348
Yes, it would. Presidential elections consistently have 20% or higher turnout compared to mid-term elections.
/pol/ is just delusional.
>>67773925
They will now.
>>67774009
>iceland
Why do foreigners insist on giving /pol/ unrealistic hope with their shitposting?
>>67773778
This was my prediction, this is the actual
t. man from 2017
>>67774280
This particular scenario could be a real nightmare scenario for America. Most likely, someone like Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush would be appointed to the Presidency by the House of Representatives.
This would be a complete disaster for American democracy! Trump's base and the Democratic parrty electorate would be livid. There's no telling what would happen..
>>67774612
SLOW AND STEADY BABY
>>67774888
On second thought, I'm not sure that the House would have the guts to appoint someone who wasn't nominated to run by his party. I'm also not sure that either Rubio or Bush would have the guts to accept the position if they weren't actively in contention for it.
If the GOP were to run an independent candidate who was an establishment Republican, then it might be him. Otherwise they would be choosing between Hillary or Trump, I imagine.
It could be that the Republican House of Representatives might actually appoint a Democrat if their only other choice was Trump..
>>67772386
>Clinton stumps Trump in polls
Look at history, spring polls are worthless.
They both have net unfavorability in double digits, so its going to be won in the debates.
>>67763933
>all the people in red will vote for Trump
k
At this point, the only way Trump wins Virginia is if Jim Webb is his running mate.
>>67763472
>Thinks betting odds are the odds that an event will actually happen.
Austria, please.
>no one is taking into account the personalities
This is so fucking retarded.
Trump would ABSOLUTELY FUCKING SLAUGHTER Hillary 1 on 1. She'd get torn fucking limb from limb. She'd be brutally fucking raped in front of the entire nation.
You all know that people actually preferred Nixon over Kennedy until they saw the two debate on television?
Nixon came off as sickly and LOW ENERGY. Hillary can't stand at a fucking podium and answer questions without taking a shit.
>>67762943
A good portion of Bernies supporters including me will never vote for Shillary. About 1/3 of us will be voting for Trump so this country can get what it deserves for letting that sociopathic cunt get the nomination. 1/3 of us is more than enough to have Hillary btfo.
Nevermind, apparently the constitution specifically limits the House to choose between candidates who won electoral votes.
So, if the GOP establishment chose not to run an independent candidate (or if their independent candidate did not get any electoral votes,) then the House would only get to choose between Trump and Hillary.
This poses an interesting question. Would the GOP House of Representatives actually go through with it and make Trump president?
>>67776189
Anon, that kind of crap might work in the GOP primary, but a general electorate would not be impressed with Trumps bluster and bravado. They would want substantive policy discussion, and Trump would not be able to give it to them.
Hillary would make Donald Trump look like a clown in front of the entire country.
>>67774612
The scary thing is that it isn't exactly outside the realm of possibilities
This election is going to be razor tight no matter what the polls say know
The winner will probably win by less than 10 electoral college votes and If Trump wins he will no doubt have less of the popular vote than Hillary
>>67776222
>Double Trips
>Checked
All Hail God Emperor Trump
>>67776353
Its not just that. Its how fucking flawed hillary is as a candidate. She has so many fucking weaknesses it's a joke.
Trump is not scared to expose those weaknesses. He will not hold back from reminding everyone of benghazi and her email scandal or all the rapes she's covered up or her history with civil rights.
>general elections aren't like that
>literally gave you an example of where it was like that
>>67762943
That's not even close to absolute dream state.
>>67776624
I'm not convinced. The American people, as a whole, do not see Trump as Presidential material. What would happen is that Trump would try to attack her on stupid shit that only impresses Republicans, and everyone who is not a Republican would be more impressed with Hillary. Trump simply cannot compete with her on an intellectual or policy level.
>>67762943
MI and WI are not liberal states. Working class dems (blue dogs) will go for Trump in droves. They don't care about social issues at all or memes like "first womyn president".
>>67776481
>Australian
Who taught the Aborigine to use a computer?
Hillary, who is STILL under investigation by the FBI for FEDERAL and INTERNATIONAL crimes, beating Trump?
Yeah, okay. You are aware that the FBI is throwing a hissy fit over not already indicting Hillary, right? That's just one issue. Of Several.
Hillary wouldn't stand a chance against a half rotten potato with a GOP sticker on it.
>>67776905
She is more disliked than Trump is.
>>67776967
When you make these types of posts you're just being screenshotted and compiled into a collage for when Hillary wins
>>67776993
That's debatable. She's certainly smarter and more prepared to be POTUS than Trump is, and the people would see that.
>>67776905
All he has to do is hammer her on her criminal exploits and shady donors. She doesn't have the moral standing to lecture anyone on policy or anything of the sort.
>>67777099
It would also be pointed out how she is pretty much in the pocket of Goldman Sachs. She is the slimiest candidate that is out right now. Plus the various #whichhillary bullshit going on.
>>67777099
>Hillary
>smart
Bitch can't even encrypt an email server or follow standard communications protocols. Not fit for president or any government office.
Fuck off shill
>>67777099
>hillary
>smarter than donald trump, who has an IQ of 160
>>67777242
>>67777264
Trump is not going to attack his way to the white house. At some point he will have to match or exceed her intellectually, and that's not happening.
>>67777349
attacks is not the same as showing america why she is unfit for office
>>67776905
Exactly. She may be a crook and a criminal, but she does seem more presidential to the rest of the country that isn't the Republucsn base. The Republican base is notoriously crazy so his popularity with them now isn't really an indication of real national feeling.
>>67777099
I think she was smarter.
Since she knocked her head she's slipped hard though
>>67762943
CO + NH will most likely go blue. Maybe IN and FL as well. It wont even be close this year. /pol/'s 2012 meltdown was pretty hilarious, but that'll be child's play compared to the collective butthurt we will get to witness in november.
prepare your tears /pol/--look forward to it.
>>67777463
Hillary Clinton is far more fit for the office than Donald Trump will ever be. It's just that simple.
MAGA
>>67777327
>smarter donald trump, who has an IQ of 160
Yes, he also knows karate and his dad will totally sue your dad if you hurt him
>>67766277
It won't happen.
Take NYC and spread its cancer across our entire state.
>>67777327
>Trump
>IQ 160
Have you heard him speak? The man nearly has an IQ of 100, if that. I would also like to see what source you got this number from.
>>67777524
That is a flat out lie. She is corrupt and incompetent. The email scandal alone is enough to back my claims.
>>67777064
>Aussie
>still shitposting
>still not giving any form of argument
Maybe you haven't been paying attention like you should have, but this is looking more and more like Trump's walk into office.
Republicans are having a massive increased voter turn out. Democrats are having a massive amount of people stay at home. The only hype I've even seen has been on the news.
I would screenshot yours but there's enough Aussie shit on here to compete with India's streets.
67777777 and trump will be POTUS
>>67765269
join....or die...JOIN! DIE!
>>67777524
Why? because she fucked her way into the white house? or because she was the worst secretary of state in american history? please enlighten me how a slimy failed secretary of state is more fit for office than one of the most successful men in the history of the country.
>>67766277
NJ hates christie's guts (for good reason).
They are similar to Massachusetts in a way though, willing to elect (seemingly) moderate governors but go blue in prez elections always.
>>67765005
>UK
Why would you take the energy to post that? it's going directly into the trash
>>67777743
A Trump Presidency is not just a threat to America, but to the entire world. On the other hand, Hillary has seen the job of a President first-hand, has worked in a President's cabinet, and is well known around the world.
It's no contest.
>>67777711
I've seen him speak a hundred times. He's extremely intelligent. You seem to be quite dumb since you base your perceptions of another's intellectual abilities on how well they deliver speeches. Fucking idiot kill yourself.
>>67777500
That's one of the only reasons I want Hillary to win, desu. The butthurt will be legendary.
>>67778027
You are stating an opinion as if it's a fact. You are a dishonest piece of shit.
>>67778068
If Trump would win, there would be even more butthurt on the left and there would be riots.
>>67775667
If it comes down to Trump or Hillary they're going Trump
>>67776993
Actually she's at -12 and he's at -29
>>67777839
>one of the most successful men in the history of the country
Inheriting millions of dollars and spending your life hyping up your brand does not make you "one of the most successful men in the history of the country"
Trump's notoriety is entirely the result of marketing, not success.
>>67774096
>>67773925
I live in Michigan, and majority of family and friends that were hardcore Dems voted for Trump in the primary. If Sanders doesn't get the nomination, his supporters will stay home or write him in.
Hilary WILL NOT win in Michigan.
>>67777778
nice try bruh
>>67777711
>not knowing what appealing to the most common denominator is
he is playing chess and your playing checkers
>Given the usual requirements for admission to a top school like Wharton, I estimate that Mr. Trump has a 156 IQ at the minimum.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/08/donald-trump-is-a-genius-but-thats-just-his-iq-3038790.html
>>67778152
Trumpfags are much more annoying. I know leftists are idiots, I expect better of the right.
>>67776993
>>67778170
she also beats trump consistently in almost every national poll.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
>>67778122
>You are stating an opinion as if it's a fact
The Economist intelligence unit disagrees.
https://gfs.eiu.com/Article.aspx?articleType=gr&articleId=2866
>>67763933
Anyone here with enhanced autism have a total turnout for all caucases and primaries for both sides so far?
At my Caucas there was a larger number of first timers than there were anything else.
We almost ran out of time to vote.
It gave me hope and while not wveryone was voting for Trump all of us agreed that Hillary could not win and we would vote for whoever won.
>>67777711
You do understand that Trump purposely gives his speeches in a fashion to appeal to the widest audience.
Talking down to people and flexing your vocabulary doesn't win you votes, ask Randlet.
>>67778220
>The people in my bubble think this, therefore the majority of people in my state think this.
No.
>>67777711
You're a fool if you honestly believe Trump is stupid. I recommend you watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo
>>67765160
Slow and steady wins the race
>>67778152
>there would be riots.
i know it's babby's first election, but no, there would not be.
>>67778198
If you don think turning a couple million dollars into 10 billion is success than you have a very fucked definition of success. Its just stupid for people to deny his success because its literally undeniable. You just come off and as stupid and delusional.
>>67778275
Not an actual test result. Are you honestly expecting me to believe he got in because of merit and not because of his wealth and pedigree? A lot of people get into Harvard and Yale just because their parents or relatives went there and gave generous donations. Give me an actual exam score and I'll believe you.
>>67778369
If by my bubble you mean the largest demographic in the state, yes. Bernie supporters will not support Hillary, why can't you comprehend that yet?
>>67778357
>he's doing it on purpose, I swear! It's genius.
Standard justification for his stupidity, I see.
>>67773522
how desperate are you? hillary's done for.
>>67778428
>10 billion
Marketing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/28/wonkbook-donald-trump-exaggerated-his-wealth-analysis-finds/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/donald-trump-net-worth-deposition_n_852376.html
http://fortune.com/2016/03/02/donald-trump-tax-returns-income/
>>67778382
i'm on the fence as to how "smart" trump is. his speeches make bush jr. look like a prodigy. on the other hand, he is certainly playing trumplets for total fools. here are some ad verbatim quotes right out of the don's mouth himself (video source at the bottom):
>Everyone's gotta be covered. This is an unrepublican thing to say....I am going to take care of everybody...the government's gonna pay for it
>In many cases, I probably identify more as a democrat
>I hate the concept of guns, I'm not in favor of it
>I lived in Manhattan in New York City all my life, so my views are a little bit different than say if I lived in Iowa
>I'm very pro choice
>"Who is most qualified to make a nuclear deal with Iran?"
>Hillary has always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE
>>67778321
Trumps economic policies will hurt no one but the ultra rich owners of productions who have been fucking this country for two decades. They deserve it and much worse.
>>67762943
Some states are blue due to low turnout. Trump has literally mobilized hundreds of thousands who have never voted before. If Trump flips ONE, just one blue state that isn't a tiny irrelevant shithole the entire election is over and he's guaranteed a win 100%.
>>67778494
Ever heard of PUMA? Clinton supporters said the same thing in '08.
We all saw how little that was worth. You Bernie or Bust clowns are no better than PUMA was.
>>67778619
>God he's so stupid for appealing to the public school educated masses.
Into the trash it goes.
>thinking the Don plays by the standard Republican rules
he will sweep states that Republicans don't even dream about
Trump will make New York red again
>>67778672
Those were his financial statements which he files with the sec, banks, and shareholders. If they were not presented and compiled in accordance with US GAAP that would be fraud and Trump would be getting fucked right now.
Just admit that you're a two-bit shill and fuck off.
>>67778428
he's been bailed out by taxpayers in the 90s. he also regularly lies about his actual assets (why else do you think he isnt releasing his taxes for the public to see?)
and of course he inherited his family's fortune AND his daddy's position as president of a several hundred million dollar real estate firm.
there's nothing wrong with inheritance, but there are few things more pathetic than pretending you are a "self-made man" when you always had hundreds of millions of dollars in family money to fall back on if you took a shitty risk (of which he took many and proceeded to screw his business partners over during bankruptcy 4-5+ times).
>>67778764
I am not a Bernie supporter by any means, Trump all the way. The 2008 and 2012 election were both establishment controlled and "lesser of two evil" choices. This one is different.
>>67778875
If by "shill" you mean "Democrat posting on /pol/," then yep, I'm a shill.
I'm still right, and you're still wrong, though.
>>67778369
underage /pol/ kids unironically think this way. it's painful to read desu senpai
>>67764948
>politifact as source
>reliable
>into the trash it goes
>>67778880
Idiot. First give me a source on the taxpayer bailout.
Secondly, you prove your ignorance because tax returns don't show you shit, you fucking idiot
>hurt what is cash basis va accrual basis
Fuck you're so dumb it hurts.
>>67778985
Lol. Your argument has been reduced to that of a schoolboy on the playground.
Kill yourself.
>>67764948
Trump will bring out voters to vote against him
>>67778444
>its not the results i wanted so ill just brush them off
sorry faggot but trump is a genius weather you like it or not. your literally just making assumptions that help your already established wrong point of view
>>67762943
>Trump
>Losing New York to Hillary Clinton
sorry, you have dialed the wrong information; please resubmit your reasoning or try again.
>>67779104
Not at all. I've already given you my argument and backed it up. You're the one who had to resort to accusations of being a "shill"
Not that I'd expect any better from a place like /pol/, anyway.
>>67779034
I'm 28 and deal with clientele on a daily basis. The majority of them have showed interest in voting for Trump regardless of race or creed.
>Underage
Have you ameribros ever been this divided about elections?
>>67776353
>Substantive policy discussion
>Hope and change wins twice
This is just nonsense.
>>67779057
>a trumplet unironically calling me an idiot
fucking KEK
just read >>67778697, kiddo. have fun voting in babby's first election faggot, i'm sure you are very excited.
>>67778880
>bailed out
stopped reading right there because hes literally never went personally bankrupt.
into the trash you go
>>67762943
The absolute dream scenario is Pennsylvania and Michigan going red.
Ohio going red isn't even a dream, it's a swing state you idiot.
>>67765355
Texas will go blue in 10 years or so. But not now.
--texan
>>67762943
>I post this every time that I find a thread like this, and I post it a lot. A lot of people see it, and they read it too. I post these things, and people agree with me. I'm probably one of the best posters around here. If I had a tripcode, my replies would be huge. Anyway, I'm telling you right now that your posts are not something that we can believe in. The words you use aren't the ones we use. The tone you use isn't the tone most of our people use, and your reasons for why you supported Trump aren't the reasons why we did-and you know what? It's embarrassing. It really is. I feel bad for you-I do-because you don't even know it, but you're wasting your time. You're an embarrassing mess. You're just a big fat mistake.
Honestly, look at all of the time you've wasted posting things that won't get through to anyone. You post these things, but your posts are low energy. I post with lots of words, but yours are just bad information! Ha, can you believe that? Every word, and every post that I post is full with energy and good information. People LOVE reading my good information. Nobody takes you seriously. Nobody is paying attention to this. You're just wasting your time. You have an energy deficit with 4chan right now, and that's a bad deal. Not me though. I have a GREAT deal. This pasta I just posted just got 10 lines longer, and you know who paid for it? Reddit and tumblr did with their energy. That's a good deal, and that's why we're winning. We're the ones making good deals.
>>67778672
His company hasnt gone public so its pretty hard to get any information about it. If there is anyone who can really say how much its worth its Trump.
>>67762943
this map is bullshit. trump won't get new hampshire, but he will get maine and iowa
>>67762943
>Rust Belt
>Blue
Yeah, nah.
Hillary was literally campaigning there on killing their coal industry outright.
Not even their Dem audiences were cheering.
>>67779299
>heh he ruined my argument and i have no way to comeback in support of my own argument so ill just be condescending
nice
>>67778880
>Thinks taxpayers pay for a bankruptcy
>calling other people stupid
Why are anti-trumplets incapable of talking without displaying their ignorance?
>>67779154
You're not providing a real source so the result is meaningless. If you're going to make statements, back them up. These are the basic rules of argumentation.
>>67779299
I'm 32 and a certified public accountant.
>>67779394
fuck off pablo. mexicans are going to keep voting republican
>>67779478
Could totes see him getting Iowa. Don't know about Maine though.
Dunning-Kruger effect: stupid, inept people can't recognize intelligence or ability, and consistently judge themselves to be smarter and more cabable than they are.
>156
Is where the scale ends for the method used to estimate it. = 1 in 10,000, i.e. RARE
>>67779237
Been a long time since we had a real choice.
>>67779600
when did i say that? i never connected his bankruptcy to taxpayer money, only that we was bailed out by taxpayers in the 90s. theres a difference bud. it had to do with basically stealing subsidies meant for improving slums which he instead used to finance his worthless business.
fucking underage trumplets. i'm out
>>67779504
This.
Clinton's NAFTA is why PA and Ohio are economically repressed.
Neither will vote for Clinton.
38 Trump electoral votes confirmed.
>>67775667
A F U C K I N G L E A F
Which one is more republican: Donald or Hillary?
Tell me, leaf. Tell me the correct answer.
>>67773778
Indiana voted blue once since 1960. It will never happen again.
>>67779621
provide a "real" source that his IQ is not that high.
>>67762943
Absolutely must be kidding me
>>67779478
Hell get ME and NH
>>67763472
lol bookies had Trump at 20-1 last Fall when he was getting 40% in the polls
>>67778697
I didn't make that comment in defense of Trump, whatever his true views may be. I was simply saying that he is a lot smarter than he lets on. Otherwise, he wouldn't have gotten this far in the nomination process.
>>67762943
> implying NJ won't vote for Trump/Christie
>>67763376
Long Island ready to flip reporting in.
You can include upstate NY while you're at it.
>>67776905
This
>>67779855
How the fuck is that a bailout you dipshit? You sound dumber every time you post.
>>67779997
I don't have to, you're making the claim. Speculations aren't real sources. Give me an official IQ test of his then I'll believe you. Anything short of that is not proof of his IQ. You'd understand that if you weren't in a cult.
Is it even possible for a Republican to be president at this point. There are so many "minorities" that vote Dem no matter what and all the brainwashed children are finally old enough to vote so they'll be going Dem too.
>>67779819
Since when? What will be the outcomes of a Trump defeat? People seems to really belive in deep changes and invested like never before
>>67765459
This 100%
>>67776905
>Trump simply cannot compete with her on an intellectual or policy level.
Loving
Every
Laugh
it's like the fuckboys come out of the woodwork who weren't around during the clinton era 16-18 years ago.
Hillary has so many skeletons in her closet, on top of Libya, Benghazi, Syria, and her private email scandal, there's like 3-5 other things that could be mentioned about her potential irresponsibility in the white house. And I'm not talking stupid pointless shit like leftist SJWs shouting "RACIST HITLER WHITE SUPREMACIST!" I'm talking condemnable facts.
I wonder what kind of person ever thought Trump had a chance
>>67780352
YOURE making the claim that his iQ is 100 at the most. ive given evidence of people who study IQ's that agree with me. Its your turn. Or you could just stop being a faggot and admit youre in the wrong for this one thing.
>>67762943
Why are you assuming that Hillary wins Ohio? Because Republicans don't win without it anyway.
>>67762943
We'll take a look at votes by party of the 7 swing states* (according to politico);
Ohio
Dem: 1,202,163
Rep: 2,043,043
Colorado
Dem: 122,296
Rep: N/A
Iowa
Dem: 1,406
Rep: 186,874
Nevada
Dem: 12,002
Rep: 75,216
New Hampshire
Dem: 246,836
Rep: 279,263
Virginia
Dem: 782,895
Rep: 1,024,913
Florida
Dem: 1,702,878
Rep: 2,355,183
>>67780477
Time to get off /pol/ and go back to campaigning, Mr. Trump.
>>67780554
Trump couldn't beat Kasich.
>>67780477
These dumb kids don't remember Senator Hillary of NY. NY remembers.
>>67779237
Bush v Gore. But it won't be that close this time. Reps could lose both houses. Trump is a total disaster for them
>>67763472
Just so everybody knows, Vegas odds are based off the public's odds of what they think will happen, not any analytic or factual basis.
>>67763261
Ohio is a swing state but you people who keep insisting that Pennsylvania is one as well are simply delusional. Its not and hasn't been for decades.
Not saying it can't flip at all, but the only way its flipping is in a landslide where its status doesn't matter to begin with.
Sanders voters will vote Trump to spite Hillary and thr establishment.
>>67762943
If you say so, Ahmed.
#Trump2016
>>67762943
Trump is getting Pennsylvania, bitch niggas.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED
>IT SHOULD BE NOTED
IT SHOULD BE NOTED
>IT SHOULD BE NOTED
In Ohio, Trump (who lost to kasich) got more votes than Hillary (who beat bernie).
727,585 votes to 679,266 votes
Ohio is going red.
>>67765315
Result is baked into the cake. Given only six races it would be more effective to analyze the races individually.
>>67765720
>Iowa
>worst State
Really? I know nothing about it
>>67780530
You didn't provide an IQ test of his, no. Therefore your statement isn't true. I didn't provide one either and I admit that my estimate might not be accurate either. You're the one insisting that 160 is his actual IQ though and you need proof of this.
>>67780654
With that logic than he wouldnt even win texas
>>67781109
Maybe he won't. They hate him there.
>>67780699
>These dumb kids don't remember Senator Hillary of NY. NY remembers.
Exactly.
Fools think New York will go blue with HILLARY CLINTON? Get fucking real.
Can't wait for all the /pol/ tears in November when we elect President Hillary Clinton.
>>67781058
If you can't understand those results, kill yourself.
Primary turnout matters.
>>67779504
>rust belt
>coal mining
Uhhhh, only in PA do those overlap, and we don't even mine it much here anymore
>>67781233
Especially if she's going against new yorks golden boy.
>>67762943
Iowa will be red this year.
>>67781307
>Primary turnout matters.
The evidence suggests otherwise.
>>67781238
Me too. Already taking caps of some of the shit these idiots post for my collage.
Trumpfags are idiots. Look at his rallies. His ONLY supporters are white trash - it is the Sarah Palin constituency.
Many moderate, middle class Republicans will vote for Hillary or not vote. His unfavorable ratings are extremely high within his own fucking party. Bernie will endorse Hillary and possibly campaign with her. The few Bernfags here saying they'll vote Trump are not representative. Every registered Democrat will vote against Trump, and since the media has painted him racist, every black and Hispanic will vote against Trump.
There is no way he will win Florida. It's very doubtful he will win Virginia or Nevada. New York and Pennsylvania are pipe dreams. Trumpfags are goddamn idiots.
>>67781063
i was more insiting that hes a genius, which gives him about 20 points of wiggle room from the estimate. Id think its a pretty safe bet.
either way you refuse to support your position at all so im gonna go ahead and assume your a shill
>>67763881
>>67776029
>>67780043
>>67780801
So you folks are putting a lot of money on Trump, right?
How should trump move forward and court moderates / challenge all the months of slander hes been slammed with? Will the establishment cave and put the full force of the RNC behind him? Or will he truly just split the vote for clinton?
>>67781180
wow youre shilling just came center stage, nice austria
>>67781238
https://youtu.be/0GdLClHAMB0
Your president.This is not a parks & rec episode btw. It's real life.
>>67762943
A FUCKING ICE CREAM SANDWICH
>>67781180
T H R E A D
I S
B A I T
I think the people that think that Trump won't get more of the Republican vote don't understand how much the Republicans hate the Democrats and Hillary. Trump is second choice for a lot of those voting for another candidate.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says they know what's going to happen during the general. They sure as hell didn't think Trump would get this far, and I doubt they have any clue as to what will happen in the general.
>>67781608
>all these projections
this sounds just like all the people saying he could never be the nominee 6 months ago
>>67762943
Daily reminder Trump will not win the election.
Daily reminder /pol/ is being delusional as always pic related
>>67781845
Obviously, but its still an interesting conversation.
>>67781753
>Giving a big red button to Russia
This idea never stops being funny to me.
>>67762943
Here's the real scenario as of now.
Various blue states could still flip, but I wouldn't count on it.
>>67762943
has California more delegates than the entire Midwest?
>>67781862
From where i'm sitting it's more his inability to appeal to independents, moderates and disenfranchised democrats will be his downfall. All of those groups are likely to coalesce around the media narrative of Trump being racist, sexist, blah blah whatever quote we can take without context next and hand the election to the Democrats.
>>67763376
New York never goes red. It won't this year either
>>67762943
Where do you make these? I forgot the site.
>>67782126
>Australia doesnt know trump gets the most of all of them category's
this hole thread is cancer
>>67782222
270towin.com
>>67782114
Those aren't delegates. They are electoral votes. Delegates are for primaries.
And, the truth is, California has LESS electoral votes than it should have based on population. The electoral college gives an advantage to less populous states in terms of electoral votes.
Simply put, California has a fuckton of people, and the interior of the country has fucking nobody.
