Is it safe to say that almost if not all Trump supporters like him because he is literally putting on an entertainment show rather than saying anything of substance because no one wants to hear the truth?
>>67743196
I think it was at first but now that you yanks have had a chance to hear his ideas and policies he has become a bit more of a realistic candidate.
>>67743196
What is the point of the mouth doohickey?
>>67743311
he has no ideas, please stop with the thought that he does.
he knows nothing about foreign policy or anything beyond a 6th grade level
>>67743196
Safe? Yeah, Trump supporters don't enact violence if you disagree with us.
Correct? No.
protip: politicians don't say anything of substance as a rule, trump just disguises it less
>>67743427
your whole country is void of substance so i doubt you have any knowledge about the presence of substance
now run back to the favelas buddy
>>67743355
>he has no ideas
>he knows nothing about foreign policy
This goy.
>>67743355
he does business around the world.
>>67743196
>literally putting on an entertainment show rather than saying anything of substance
And thats somehow not every other politician from the modern era?
>>67743196
He is purposefully destroying political correctness in order to save us all.
>>67743196
I unironically believe he would exterminate niggers and replace mexican shits with Russians.
>>67743524
i always find it funny that the first thing americans go to to insult brazilians(and most people really) is the country
i don't give a shit about this rotten piece of land and am leaving asap, i have no loyalty to it and it could all burn to the ground for all i care
in fact i hope it happens
>>67743311
Hes admited he knows nothing of pollitics and needs a VP who does.
>>67743355
okay that's it, GET HIM OUT!
>>67743527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNG-KxSm7js&feature=youtu.be&t=565
he literally does not know who russia is bombing in Syria
>>67743355
>>67743532
oh shit he does?
nevermind he knows everything about foreign affairs
>>67743684
like anyone knows what's going on there with like 50 factions involved bombing each other
>>67743355
THIS ONE GOES OVER THE WALL
>>67743810
oh since it's complicated it's not use researching it because honestly foreign policy isn't even important right?
who cares what happens in the rest of the world, it surely does not affect the most influential country in the world
my bad you're right
>>67743355
>he has no ideas
>the wall/securing the border
>deporting illegals
>friendlier relations with Russia/Putin
>maintain a strong military but less involvement in interventionist wars like Iraq
>use military spending on things that the military actually wants, not wasteful projects designed by Congress
>roll back some of the free trade agreements
>replace the ACA with something less government-based but still make sure the poor have some access to healthcare
how are these not ideas? which of the other candidates have better ideas?
>>67743684
>>67743810
>wanting to fund the middle east
>>67743684
neither do you.
>>67743196
>anything of substance because no one wants to hear the truth?
Name a presidential nominee who does this. I dare you.
Also, a good part of his popularity IS that he's willing to tell the truth while politicians keep telling empty promises and politically correct bullcrap.
The media kees trying to Stump Trump with possibly valid reasons, but gives the Establishment politicians a free pass on their bullshit for at least the past four election cycles, and frankly, people are sick of it.
>>67743355
Crippled America and all his policies that have been public on his website laid out in great detail along his tax plan.
>>/out/
>>67743196
I like him for his strong stance on wind turbines.
> Trump has expressed firm opposition to wind turbines, which he sees as an environmental and aesthetic problem.
Source:
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/what-does-donald-trump-believe-where-the-candidate-stands-on-10-issues
>>67743884
you realize that he strongly advocated for cutting government spending and when asked what he cut he named two things that did not even equal more than 100 billion
the guy is a fucking fraud and you are too blind to realize it
>>67743976
bernie, and i'm not even a berniebro
he talks about a plethora of issues within the country.. has a consistent voting history
>>67744029
his tax plans are ineffective and suggests a tax break to corporations
fucking buffoon
you probably ride trump's dick because he is as shallow and retarded as you are so it closely reminds yourself of you
>>67744130
trump thinks climate change is a hoax, you are retarded don't post again please
>>67743867
It really is that simple.
>>67743684
Oh so you're a neocon.
>>67744170
Go back and support your failed candidate berniebotindenial.
You should focus on Hillary instead of us, it's called strategetising.
>>67744170
> don't post again please
Request denied.
>>67744170
A U T I S M
>>67743196
I support him because the establishment hates him. If those useless fucks are terrified about him then he has to have the people's best interest at heart.
>>67743196
I like his policies, I think his 7 point health plan can do wonders for the insurance system
But I don't think you know how to read so this point is invalid
He's gonna fuck up the SJWs and illegals like never before and it's going to be glorious.
>>67744170
>you realize that he strongly advocated for cutting government spending and when asked what he cut he named two things that did not even equal more than 100 billion
Is he supposed to list the thousands of programs that would be cut? Isn't it more effective in a debate to mention a couple of the biggest ones?
You didn't even address most of the points of my post so I don't know what you're trying to do here, you praised Bernie for addressing a "plethora of issues within the country" but Trump does that too as you saw in my original post
>his tax plans are ineffective and suggests a tax break to corporations
why is that a bad thing? Part of the reason corporations are moving overseas is that the U.S. has some of the heaviest corporate tax rates in the world. I support raising taxes on the upper class but having such ridiculously high taxes on corporations makes no sense, it is costing us jobs.
I like the wall and deportation ideas. There are between 700 million and 2 billion people who would like to move to the US for economic reasons, depending on how you choose to calculate it (I base this on data from the Center for Immigration Studies and Gallup polls, which you can find by Googling things like: "How many people would immigrate to America if they could?".)
Most of these immigrants would compete for low-end jobs, which would drive down the labor market for our poorer citizens. This is drastically unfair to our poorer citizens. Even if we never give these immigrants citizenship, they will still get some things for free, like medical care from emergency rooms, which will drive up the cost of health care for citizens. However, their children will be citizens, and will rely heavily on social welfare; statistics back this up, as does logic (poor immigrant families will obviously rely more on welfare for at least a couple of generations.) These social-welfare-reliant people will increase the cost of any future social welfare programs, such as universal health care. Bernie actually acknowledged this at one point; he said open borders are a bad idea that is pushed by the Koch brothers (keep in mind that the billionaire Koch brothers--and George Soros, a non-American billionaire--are funding Trump's opposition; he's the only candidate beholden to no special interests.) But Bernie is soft on immigration, and Hillary is even softer.
If low-end labor was drastically scarce, maybe these immigrants would be a net positive for the country, but it isn't; instead, unemployment and wage stagnation are the issues. Low-skilled laborers simply are not in demand and have no bargaining power in the work force.
>>67743355
And he does not need to. When you are president you have a whole army of people to inform you and provide advice and up to the min analysis.
Another issue is the question of how well immigrants assimilate. Culture is a real thing (The difference between South and North Korea is a good example of how different cultures can shape the fates of otherwise identical populations of people.) When immigrants arrive, they import their culture. Most tend to vote leftist and Democratic (as shown by the data, if you Google for it), which understandably causes Republicans to want less immigration and Democrats to want more. Now that this trend of the Dems being the party of immigrants exists, it might be a self-perpetuating chicken-and-the-egg situation, but it should be considered. The influx of immigrants have already shifted this country far to the left. Their countries of origin are usually more socialist than the USA is, but also have weaker economies; many people would say there is a link.
Islamic terrorists in Europe and America have often been the children or grandchildren of immigrants, which implies that they did not assimilate well. Maybe France was "just too racist and unwelcoming" despite being one of the most progressive countries of all time, or maybe it means we should recognize that many people will be unwilling to abandon their ancient traditions, beliefs, religions, and cultures (and rivalries; France has been an enemy of Islam for centuries) to fit into their host countries or get along with their neighbors.
The Pew Polls on Islamic beliefs and worldview were quite alarming to me, as they indicated that many Muslims hold beliefs which are drastically incompatible with the West's cultural values. It is true that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and nonviolent, and that the right of freedom of religion is an honored tradition of Western and American societies. However, the right of self-defense is also ingrained.
Nations are morally permitted--if not required--to exercise judicious discrimination when choosing whom they allow to enter, at least in my worldview. I believe that the rights of Muslims in America must be protected, but the more freedom from oversight we give Muslim citizens, the more discriminating we must be in choosing whom we allow to become a citizen in the first place. Screening people at the border allows us to avoid having to screen and monitor people within the country.
There are also problems with the refugees, many of which are economic migrants, not true war refugees. Many would say we are somewhat responsible for the Syrian civil war. At least America has given 5+ billion dollars in relief aid, more than any other country by far. I believe it is better not to bring them to America, but to instead help them in the Middle East, through relief aid, camps, and restoring peace to Syria, all of which are Trump's stated policies and goals.
Trump has been comically vague about his Muslim screening policy. However, he seems to want a consistently stricter screening policy towards immigrants in general, not just Muslims, with the goal of putting American interests first. The fact that he has not laid out his exact plans might indicate that he has not yet decided on the details and will leave it up to immigration officials, with his role being that of the overall policy-maker and sayer of harsh truths. Barring all Muslim immigration "until we can figure out what is going on" may be too drastic, but I prefer it over the "refugees welcome" attitude which is causing problems in Europe. And while "all non-citizen Muslims" might be too broad of a policy, it seems rather logical to me for the USA to not allow in citizens of countries we have bombed in the last decade, when terrorism by those citizens is so rampant. He hasn't laid out specifics, so his plan might end up as something like that.
>>67743628
>Russian
>better then Mexican
Have you ever been to Brighton beach in New York
It's Hell on earth
You people are like roaches
>>67744387
you're retarded
he is everything establishment stands for, and he's not even a politician.
he pulls a harvey dent every time he takes a stance and it hurts him, later saying he didn't do nuffin or he didn't mean it etc
such as pretending to not understand that david duke endorsed him, until it made him look bad then he did not condone it
>>67744481
wow haha it's going to fix this country alone just the healthcare
>>67744536
do people actually FUCKING THINK LIKE THIS?
kill yourself
I look into his actual quotes and statements when the headlines scream bloody murder, and it's amazing how often he is misleadingly misquoted by mainstream media (although he seems to bait it by saying outlandish things, partly as a publicity tactic.) Things like his bankrupcies, the Hitler salutes, and his campaign manager assaulting the reporter were all media lies or distortions of the truth.
Trump is more or less against H1-B visas, which arguably have a similar economic effect as illegal immigration, because they take middle-class jobs and replace entry-level college graduates. He has also said he wants to allow the 'best of the best' to work in America. I have several friends who are here on visas, some who are Muslims from Middle Eastern countries, and I do not want them gone, so this is not a decision I would make happily or lightly. On the other hand, a Muslim man with a wife and young child was recently arrested for planning to bomb the Houston Galleria mall near where I live; I can't say I want more like him around. Ultimately, Trump's policy suggestions all hinge on the idea that America should act in favor of its citizens rather than foreigners, and inviting in more Muslims is arguably a bad idea for American citizens.
I do not like torture or waterboarding; not only is it sad, I think it is likely to decrease our public image globally, although some (like Trump) say it makes us look strong. I read the recent report by, I think, the Senate about how torture doesn't work, but it seemed more politically motivated than factually accurate, drawing mostly on anecdotal evidence (to be fair, I don't know how else they could study torturous interrogation.)
However, I believe Trump is simply more honest about these sorts of things; the last few presidents have committed abundances of war crimes and extraordinary renditions (sending people to places like Egypt to be tortured), and I don't think Hillary would change a thing. I think Trump is simply more honest, not more cruel.
His proposed economic plans, tax rate, tariffs, et cetera are somewhat outside my area of understanding; it seems that even economists rarely agree on anything. I generally hope that a billionaire businessman would know what he is doing in those areas. The argument that "Trump is only in it for the glory" or for his own ego applies to Hillary as well, and if he's in it for the glory, he will surely want to do a good job. I doubt he's in it for the money at this point in his life; as he has said, there are easier ways for him to spend his time.
Many people think he is inciting violence. I agree he stoked the fires at protests, but the media and his opponents are partly to blame for perpetually labeling him a racist bigot who must be stopped at all costs. It's good that people are keeping a close eye on him and his policies, but it's not any more inevitable that he would turn America into a fascist Nazi dictatorship than that Sanders--whose catchphrase is "We need a revolution!"--would turn America into a communist Marxist dictatorship.
In the last few months, I have moved tentatively rightward on other issues in general, such as race relations, social justice, welfare, and others (and the way that the Democrats have embraced the SJW movement turns me off of them), but those are stories for another time.
>>67744610
Yes healthcare is an important part of the country, all countries in fact
>>67744610
>he is everything establishment stands for
In what way? The establishment is for free trade and interventionist foreign policy (aka globalism), he is against those things.
>he's not even a politician
so?
he's the only one who isn't backed by kikes
>>67744130
this
wind turbines seem problematic
>>67744784
he uses demagoguery probably the most of any candidate i've ever seen
and it's sad because the rednecks and uninformed voters eat it up because "HE IS JUST LIKE US HE DONT CARE BOUT NOTHIN HE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS MANE"
>>67744610
You're literally suggesting he didn't want to disavow David Duke because he doesn't want to lose the racist white vote... As if the KKK vote is somehow more powerful than the anti-KKK vote.
Plus, he called David Duke out years ago, twice, on video, as a bigot & racist whose endorsement is undesirable. When asked recently, maybe he just forgot who the fuck it was, seeing as it was like 15 years since last mention.
He has gaffes like any politician. I saw someone say he has a hearing aid / cochlear implant, also, which could explain why he keeps complaining about mishearing people.
>>67743349
Teeth whitening, probably
>>67745069
blind people like you cannot be fixed
you are indoctrinated to be a retard and a biased fool
>>67744993
So just to be clear, how does that make him an establishment candidate?
Does he not oppose globalist policies?
I like him because he is more like the Founding Fathers, who were business men and not career politicians...
>>67743884
He has never said he will have friendly relations with Russia. That's all a pol delusion. I can think of better ways to spend tax money than on a wall with a friendly country (Mexico). Trump's idea are backwards and won't be successful in global economy. Threatening tariffs and charging for military protection will hurt our economy and will damage out strategic alliances.
PS. If you think US and Russia will be allies then you really don't understand foreign policy
I'll add some more points
I think that a 14.5% tax plan was a good idea but because rand Paul dropped out trumps tax plan is next in line seemingly because it puts us in the same tier as many Scandinavian countries in terms of how much we tax business which us currently the 3rd highest in the world, I think that kills a lot of perspective business
I think that socialism does not work in western countries by the fact that we have seen case studies such as Venezuela and Detroit
I think that having relations with Soviets is better then having relations with the Chinese and trump seems to get along better with them
>>67744522
>700 million to 2 billion
You are beyond stupid. There are only about 30 million immigrants I'm US as is. Why don't you just all 7 billion people on earth want to live in America
>>67745261
>He has never said he will have friendly relations with Russia.
That's not true at all, he has said he would get along very well with Putin, as opposed to Obama who has no relationship with him
Quotes:
>"I was over in Moscow two years ago, and I will tell you, you can get along with those people, and get along with them well. You can make deals with those people. Obama can't."
>"it's actually important for this country to do that. You can't have everybody hating you. The whole world hates us. And one of the things that I heard for years and years: Never drive Russia and China together; and Obama has done that."
>PS. If you think US and Russia will be allies then you really don't understand foreign policy
No one is saying we'll be allies, but right now we're much closer to being outright enemies which is dangerous.
>>67745261
I think he sees Russia as a means to end Isis which is the biggest threat right now. that is really all it is
>>67745261
Eh you're a bit confused
Tariffs allow countries like China to flux and de flux their currency as they see fit, this can cause a price drop of the dollar and can hurt our own economimy as well, having the power to do the same would put us at a better playing field
Also the American dollar stands on something called a militaristic standard so having countries pay for assistance can give a very large boost to the dollar
>>67743196
OP - Have you even given the man a chance?
The entire point of a presidential election is to look over all of your options of those who are throwing their hat in the ring and whomever you feel has the best options should be the one you feel would be the best person for the job?
No?
I didn't think so.
Go look into what Shillary is offering as well as Cuckbern Sandtits. Then go look at what the magnificent Donald J. Trump is offering and then become part of the unstoppable Trump Train because we welcome you with open arms.
It feels great being on this side, OP. High fucking Energy.
Become part of what will in fact Make America Great Again.
Because I was you not very long ago, OP. I scoffed at Trump. I felt he was the best punchline of the circus that it the current U.S. election. And then I looked into what he was about. I gave the man a chance after shitting all over his name to my peers. I admitted I was wrong about him and I changed my mind.
You too can change your mind, OP. It's not too late.
TRUMP 2016!
>>67745890
i will never vote republican
their views are flawed and selfish and mainly ignorant
i think that any trump supporter is a fool by association
>>67745261
>PS. If you think US and Russia will be allies then you really don't understand foreign policy
Who said anything about anyone being allies?
Obama ended the embargo against Cuba, but are we/they sucking each others cocks?
It's all about easing tension. Offering a hypothetical olive branch to increase relations between the two.
I, as an American, fully stand behind any politician that wants to further peaceful relations with Russia. There's no need for any hatred towards them what so ever.
How is it that there are droves of American citizens that respect and damn near worship the ground that Putin walks on?
It's because they respect him as a leader. Because he stands down to no one.
That's what we need, and that's why I'm voting for Trump.
>>67746067
You act like everyone who is Republican is voting for him by default.
I hate to break it to you, OP. But I'm not a republican.
>>67743196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBwt24PTe0
Trump/Shady 2016 confirmed?
>>67743196
Nah, it's however safe to say that the people who say that Trump supporters only like him because he's entertaining because he doesn't say anything of substance haven't actually listened to anything he has to say.
