What sociopolitical effects does easily accessible pornography have on a country?
Possibly an enormous effect, I believe.
Like the birth control pill and the legalization of abortion.
I have heard that among the middle eastern nations, they are starting to become super degenerate with internet access, which I find extremely amusing.
Birth rates are declining across all first world modern populations.
It seems very likely that this trend will continue.
Complacency and sedation.
>>67724893
Degeneracy
>>67724893
How the fuck is porn cheaper than dating? Online porn is expensive as hell.
This is the worst scourge on men absolutely destroys men completely reducing them to a Carl. The shit is hard to stop if you've been habitually using for a long time but it has to stop if I ever want to be happy.
>>67725503
>paying for porn
>>67725579
It absolutely is. I pride myself on not being addicted to any substances but I have a brutal porn addiction which is arguably worse. Maybe not in the short term but it really fucks up your perception of sex and women.
The government needs to ban this shit and all you beta 'muh freedom' fucks who disagree can get fucked because once teenagers get hooked its very hard to stop.
>>67725503
>Online porn is expensive as hell.
>paying actual real world currency to watch pornographic content
I'm old enough to remember the Meese Commission.
TL:DR Evangelicals wanted a "smoking gun" linking pornography to increase of rapes as justification to ban it.
>muh degeneracy prevention
>muh prudish miserable life outlook
>muh not being fun at parties
>>67726734
Go away Chad.
>>67726598
niggers cause rape, are we going to ban them too?
>>67726777
>le Chad meme
>>>/r9k/
think wider
porn is just one symptom of the internet as a whole which is inherently degenerate even WITHOUT porn.
4chan is just like porn but for socialization
More random splooge stains found in more random places...
>>67725194
I wonder if it's causing rape rates to go down?
>>67724893
>mfw Christcucks and sandniggers will never take my porn away.
>>67726187
imo the WHOLE INTERNET needs to be banned from private use
it's the only way to prevent porn and also the internet itself is almost as destructive even without porn.
also 4chan needs to own up for being guilty of all the degeneracy it accuses tumblr of.
4CHAN IS WORSE IN EVERY WAY AND ALWAYS WAS.
>>67724893
deathgrip pandemic
>>67727021
4chan =/= /pol/ or how fucking long have you been on 4chan?
>>67726876
exactly the real degeneracy is instant gratification
porn is one of its biggest axioms
Well the widespread porn in the west is probably a reaction to modern feminism. It's so hard now to find a nice whore to fuck. Also kikes make a lot of money off running the porn industry, why would they ban it?
the internet has made an equivalent of porn for every aspect of life
conversation porn (imageboards and forums)
information porn (youtube info videos, news sites)
skill learning porn (howto stuff)
all cheapening and removing the effort of reality.
2 weeks of quitting porn and I now realize that it's the internet as a whole that's the problem.
>>67727155
all empires die from within
victims of their own wealth and success
>>67726598
Well Australia just had a parliamentary enquiry about its effects on adolescents.
I can tell you though from using hardcore since 12 and then suddenly stopping that it is what makes men have aspergers. You have to be very vigilant to keep a streak up however
>>67727153
/pol is a containment board for people who weren't mature enough to go to real boards after outgrowing /b/, newfriend.
>>67727268
I definitely had aspergers before I used porn or the internet.
I was diagnosed when I was 6. I barely even played video games at the time either, but still was extremely antisocial and literally couldn't read faces until I was like 13.
porn certainly makes it worse though and detracts from what otherwise could be a dedicated life of studying or other things that autists are actually good for.
>>67727214
Well bro I was thinking of giving it up and you've confirmed I need to cancel my internet. God speed.
Less murders probably. 2pac said sobering about that shit. How "niggas need to go back to masterbating so they stop killing each other over trife ass bitches"
>>67727400
What do you call a real board, pisscunt?
>>67727666
I'm an electrical engineer and technology has been my life for years now. I can't see how I'd ever be able to do that unless I give up the job I just worked my ass off in school to get. But I'm considering going off-grid or something in a few years. Until then I hope just quitting porn is enough.
>>67727666
How the fuck do you live without internet, though?
I can't even conceive of it.
Most things bore the shit out of me.
>>67727400
Well said
>>67727860
well I might not be able to do it, but I've pretty much come to the conclusion that even electricity is better lived without in the long run. the Amish had it right and removed themselves from the system centuries ago.
but I also love electronics and work with them for a living so I just hate myself a lot because of it.
Cripples many belief systems and introduces liberal ideas. Warps views of people and turns them into objects of lust.
>>67728018
...I think I'm fine with electricity. That's a little extreme. To the point of being kind of dumb.
how do i quit?
>>67726089
Sorry but women IRL are so, so much worse. Better to live with a comforting fantasy than to enslave yourself to their dominion. If the right girl comes along it should be completely effortless & you'll know it's time to cut back on the porn.
>>67728059
>>yfw 4chan damaged society to a much greater degree than tumblr or reddit and everyone who goes after the tumblr boogeyman is lashing out because of their own guilt
internet anonymity is the cancer within itself.
>>67727743
None. Please stay on /pol/ and talk some more about your "red pills."
/pol/ is the asshole of 4chan, and good only for the adolescent entertainment to be found in watching a group of retarded monkeys fling shit at each other, for half an hour. It really is the worst board on 4chan, and exists solely to get you to stay here and off other boards.
>>67728153
how dare you renounce your meme overlords.
>>67728130
Haha wow. You don't realise you'll never meet the right girl unless you stop fapping. This is the secret of your enslavement.
>>67728451
I'm just here for the amusement.
You have it all figured out, don't you pisscunt?
>>67728465
honestly I fear that even if I stop I will never erase the damage from development, and it would be a disservice to society to marry. I should pay the price and live a celibate life.
>>67728153
And yet, here you are. What makes you come back here, since you do seem so vehemently opposed to the internet as a whole?
Is it addictive on your end?
>>67728547
I've got /pol/ figured out. So does everyone else. It's not a secret, anon.
>>67726992
No it just means Abdul has new techniques he wants to try
>>67728573
of course. As of now I use shitposting to keep me away from porn when I get stressed out from my engineering grad school workload.
>>67724893
pretty sure this is why we are all so dumb
anybody got some dank memes to post?
>>67728660
You think anyone has anything figured out?
>>67724893
It makes married men to dress like cats and go into their neighbours' trashcans at night to eat all the garbage.
Pic related
>>67724893
A huge detrimental effect
>>67728749
Saved. That pretty much convinced me right there.
Phew, man that's some hard truth right there.
>>67724893
Vid very much related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg
>>67728554
No bro trust me I don't know if your Christian but 2/3rds of Christian youth are women and they are burning for a real man who doesn't fap and can connect with them in a man to woman way. I could be dating a 10/10 virgin Christian who sings incredibly with virgin voice but I keep fucking breaking my streaks at 2-3 weeks. Trust me it's doing them a favour, because there is a massive drought of nofap men.
>>67727771
O saw you in the unabomber thread
imagine what uncle ted would think of internet porn
ted was right about almost everything
>>67727400
ill confirm this..
>>67729160
do you think you could simply choose to never come back to 4chan?
you're probably addicted to it.
>>67729160
pop-sci reddit shit
>>67725503
>paying for pornography
loooool
No
No I don't believe that there is someone this stupid on here, not even young earth creationists are this fucking dumb, hell the fucking flat-earther trolls aren't this mentally retarded.
>>67729260
I am autistic and was so even before porn. And porn completed the damage to the point where I don't think I'm deserving of a pure woman. I am seriously considering celibacy.
>>67729324
>doesn't refute the video
>calls it shit
Helping the discussion lad.
So you need internet for what - bank accounts, online purchases... anything else?
>>67729296
I probably am to a certain degree addicted to it.
Think about this way. If you had a more interesting life with more friends, opportunities, events, parties, and interesting things in general (fill in the black), would you really come back to 4chan habitually?
>>67729635
Definitive answer no.
...I am cucking myself aren't I?
>>67729635
Maybe if I wasn't born with some neurological impairments already I wouldn't. but I probably would because this board (and other conspiracy boards I read) provide a fear aspect that would be completely missing from a normal life you describe.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to do a hard reboot and I don't want to. I've already tried being no internet for a week and it was pure hell.
^that's absolutely addict talk
>>67729868
Maybe just make a whitelist for porn and give someone else the password. And start by just quitting porn, take one step at a time.
>>67725503
>Paying actual money
>for internet porn
Does anyone even do this? considering most of the stuff is free?
>>67729948
I've tried this before. I'm too smart for any firewall I set up.
I'll go into the registry files and delete shit and then delete all the program files.
I'm not to be trusted. I have to actually want to quit. I think I actually have to suffer boredom and loneliness, as well.
The internet and pornography is the salve for the dysfunction of my entire life.
And absolutely a major contributing factor.
>>67724893
>What sociopolitical effects does easily accessible pornography have on a country?
The value of the vagina decreases for men, the one bargaining chip that women can use to control a man's actions is significantly lessened. This is the real reason feminists are anti-porn.
Ideally this means people can indulge in sexual acts for pleasure without risk of pregnancy and only risk pregnancy when they choose to have a child.
>>67730194
Use public computers only or cancel your home wireless and be forced to use public places.
unless you're an exhibitionist you wont be tempted
>>67729160
Interesting video. Also explains that the problem isn't the drugs, porn, video games or whatever, but the underlying issues that lead people to over-indulge in these things.
>>67730194
Have you tried making friends?
>>67730540
imo it's the whole of industrial society and wage labor that caused all these underlying issues. Almost nobody actually feels the satisfaction of supporting themselves directly with their own hands.
>>67730385
That's a good idea.
>>67730550
I have issues. Kind of paranoid, suspicious of other people. Went to a therapist a couple of times. Really didn't help much. Maybe just didn't find the right one. I don't trust people. Very typical Social Avoidant Personality Disorder. My entire life, pretty much.
I think I've been addicted to the internet for at least 14 years.
Porn addiction is really secondary.
Internet access is never having to be bored, ever.
>>67730947
They'll tell you that is a disorder. In reality you have a strength.
Watch and laugh with me friend, as these trusting fools fall right into the traps set all around them during their lives.
>>67730947
I'm not completely like you then. I'm legitimately autistic and impaired in the ability to understand people at all. Not paranoid and avoidant. If I have a context (whether it be games, science, literature, school, work, etc) I actually enjoy a long conversation, which is why I can get along normally at work and why I managed to be as successful as I am in all ways except personal life.
Back when I was like 6-10 years old I would throw tantrums just from trying to get my brain around meeting anyone I didn't already know (certainly didn't help though that I grew up in NYC and said people in school were niggers or old boomer women 80% of the time).
>>67731304
A fortress becomes a prison after a long enough time. There has come a point where I have felt less and less alive with every year, and this horrifies me.
>>67731377
It's good to know you're at least functional. People are... complex.
>>67732011
Everyone who knew me from a young age now considers me a success story given that I went from basically being put in special education as a kid to acing high school and getting a master's degree and a solid tech job starting this year. Meanwhile the rest of the people I knew well from that era went into liberal meme degrees and most were drug addicted radical leftist washouts, the kind you see in occupy and BLM protests. I studied hard to deal with my social failure in my teenager years.
But now I feel guilty for being successful in my field and yearn for nature and leaving society behind (even though I wouldn't last one day in that scenario )
>>67729443
Wew lad. They say junkies need to be given forgiveness and friends because they refuse to point out humans are more lonely than ever now and resort to drugs because social cohesion is being destroyed by leftism.
I don't think we as humans are supposed to be this desensitized to naked people and sex.
There's lasting changes and we're basically becoming like those reformed sluts who find church and try to stop being degenerates but they rewired their brains too much and its too late.
We should've listened. Technology is ruining everything and its gonna get much worse.
>>67732522
it's more than just "leftism." It's the urban environment in general, and the replacement of natural communities with: school, work and bars (and i guess now the internet) as the only social hubs
>>67725503
>paying for porn
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>67732585
sometimes I think even further back to LITERACY and realize that most people were never meant to even learn how to read and write. Throughout history the strongest times for the West were when you had a small number of literate scholars and masses of hard working peasants.
Most people here never deserved anything more than a hut and a field, and a young virgin wife at age 16-18. and they'd be better off for it. Ignorance really is bliss.
>>67732663
>>67732663
>>67732663
This, very much. I often get the feeling, if I'm not on the internet, I'm going to be working with drones, and the only other choice would be getting a job in academia, listening to leftists say dumb shit, trying to fuck undergraduates, and subverting the political beliefs of everyone around me.
>>67732908
hahaha I thought about this today, how most of us never have invented shit.
>>67724893
Television and pornography are worse than atomic weapons
>>67733011
TV taught us that atomic weapons are even real.
I'm convinced they might have been fake all along. the IDEA of the nuke was the weapon.
>>67724893
read Libido Dominandi.
>>67732967
I've done bits of research in school, and am getting to a point where I might contribute to inventing some shit, but it's still not anything significant, anything more than just slightly improving things that already exist. But I think it's a mistake to assume that one needs to invent something to be a good man.
in fact a lot of the famous inventors of the past were miserable degenerates
I had a so called 'normal' life in the 90's before the Internet.
Now, I hate people and enjoy fapping, so.....
>>67733259
Yeah, I don't believe in any concept of intrinsic worth. I just think it's funny that people that run society/consume often contribute very little to it.
>>67732585
I once seriously considered going into a field like brain computer interfaces for the sole reason of making a way to delete memories to return people to innocence.
but then I realized that's probably a bad idea compared to just letting everyone die or never reproduce instead
>>67724893
Less babies
>>67733178
Bought the book, by the way. Thanks for the recommendation.
>>67733501
How's that working out for you?
Let's just say I'd like to relive the 90's again
>>67724893
I think it literally has 0 effect.
It doesn't cause degeneracy, degenerates would find something to do otherwise.
Its the internet in general that is destroying the first world.
>>67729260
That so su much bullshit . I stopped fapping just for the lolz , at first i thought it was going to be easy , it was not , so i said fuck off , and tried harder , NO FAP since 6 month , where are my virgins ? There are mo virgins cause you have to actually talk to girls and not be ugly , and no fap doesn t help , well it does with the talkin( you become aggresive and want to bang everyone , but in my case it didn t trigger me )but if u ugly and low self esteem like me , i doubt you will get anything
>>67734335
probably because you just replaced fapping with another addiction like 4chan. It's still worth doing for other reasons like improving your concentration
>>67728451
Wew lad you are a smart guy , are you from /sci/? Or perhaps you used your detective powers from /x/ to discover such amazing thing . Gratz
>>67729260
>Go to church
>99% old people
>after church there's some kind of snack thing
>people group into families and cliques
how am I supposed to find these 10/10 church qts
>>67734202
information overload like aldous huxley warned
Modern women are the worst. It's just not worth the time and expense to weed throught the feminist garbage.
Ok, so, well, I'm gonna try to /nointernet/ again and probably fail miserably and this is going to suck.
I wish you all luck in your various endeavors.
>>67734884
Godspeed you beautiful faggot.
>>67728465
That's bullshit. I approach women all the time. Fapping doesn't mean you lack desire or motivation.
>>67728749
when people say "distractions", what do they mean? distractions from what? from working 100% of your time?
>>67735185
that's the one thing I think that picture misses though it's definitely a lot of truth.
even your job is a distraction from things that matter more in life like family. That's the trap of career-ism that consumed the boomers and goes hand in hand with consumerism and hedonism.
you're not supposed to be working 100% of the time, in fact medieval peasants worked far less and with a less rigid schedule.
>>67724893
Drastically decreases violent crime.
>>67735145
thats exactly what it means if done too much.
And i highly suspect most everyone here does it too much
I reccomend easing into nofap, just go a week at a time and fap on the 7th day, then repeat for a few months and youll see
