So we are 100% sure Kasich has been promised the nomination in a brokered convention? Or does the GOP want him to get more exposure for when he's the running mate?
No, the GOP & Soros just don't want Trump to win the nomination and so are taking votes so if he doesn't win a 50% majority they can choose who represents the party
>>67724742
>American Intellectuals
>>67724905
Not going to happen. When white people don't get what they want it turns ugly real fast.
>>67725228
>white people
shitskin
>>67724905
Wow if they do that the republican party is completely fucked. If they did that it's just telling all the republicans yeah your vote doesn't matter.
>>67725755
>>67725228
and they PUT THE CONVENTION IN MY CITY REEEEEEEEE
WHAT DO THEY HAVE AGAINST CLEVELAND WE WERE FINALLY IMPROVING AGAIN
>>67724742
Do people really not understand this? Why would anyone vote for Kasich in Ohio if it's mathematically impossible for him to be the nominee and why do people have this much bias of a candidate being from their state?
>>67725005
>Mexican
>Intellectuals
You know Kasich is helping Trump by taking votes away from Cruz
>>67725494
>being this mad
>>67724742
Where did Rubios delegates go?
>>67726609
Foam party in Miami.
>>67724742
Hes a Soros puppet only there to suck votes from trump to force brokered convention
>>67726609
All the delegates from candidates that dropped out become "at large" delegates who can vote at the convention however they want. They end up being kind of like Superdelegates for the dems. Nobody wants to acknowledge that they may choose to vote Trump. Carson's especially.
>>67724742
It's probably more about stopping Trump/Cruz from winning outright than helping Kasich win outright.
>>67726609
He dropped out. A lot of the candidates that dropped out still have delegates. Their delegates will probably go to the convention with their candidate and just have fun. So yeah, Rubio, Bush, Carson, Paul, Christie, and maybe Fiorina all have delegates that will just go to waste.
>>67725005
kek
>>67726609
I'm wrong >>67727945
>>67727713 is right
>>67725755
>just telling all the republicans yeah your vote doesn't matter
the dems did that years ago with super-delegates so its not like it would be a surprise
>>67727713
But it's way murkier than that. It depends on each states rules with regards to delegates pledged to candidates who suspend their campaigns
>>67724742
im impressed/shocked Kasich has made it this far.
>>67726609
>>67727713
>>67727945
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/16/what-happens-to-delegates-won-by-rubio-other-ex-candidates.html
It varies. Assuming Trump doesn't have the required number, some let them vote whoever they want while others require them to vote for their (dead) candidate for the first round. In the second round of voting, if no candidate has been picked, they can do whatever they want.
>>67728120
>the dems
It's not the same
It may already be this point, but there will come a point where Cruz has a choice, either brokered convention even though Trump has a clear majority, or he allows Trump to get the majority to ensure an establishment candidate isn't picked or an establishment VP, or other deal.
Once people see Cruz is also teamed up with Kasich, and his "outsider status" is pretence, his career is fucked.
>>67724742
There are delegates unbound and also rubios old delegates. His mentatlity if he really wants to win is that its going to be brokered and in there he will pull through.
>>67728756
Cruz sure as hell isn't dropping out. He's hoping for a brokered convention as much as Kasich
>>67726221
He will hurt Trump if he takes away enough votes from Trump such that he won't get the 1237 votes and be pushed into the general.
>>67725494
>triggered cumskin
>>67727416
Underrated
>>67728892
Cruz claims he can beat trump at the ballot box
>>67724742
Kasich will be VP. He guarantees Ohio. He won 87% of precincts in his reelection bid.
>>67728892
Thats something Hannity does not yet get, if Cruz is willing to risk Kasich being the nominee just so he has a shot, when Trump is more likely, then he me as well be establishment. Kasich is even less conservative than Trump even if you don't believe Trump on the second amendment or healthcare.
>>67729348
would you expect any candidate in the history of ever to say the opposite?
Trump is a weapon devised by the Clintons to derail Kasich's campaign. It's worked so far but not for long. We need a TRUE conservative in the White House, and the GOP is going to ensure that happens, even if the "majority" is too stupid to know when the liberals are playing them.
>>67724742
Do the math again using common core.
>>67729348
Cruz isnt going to beat shit unless cali tries to copy texas like it always does and goes for Cruz
>>67724742
The candidates that have withdrawn and a few from places like North Dakota can do whatever they want.
>>67724905
Is Soros the Hitler of /pol/? An evil bogeyman you can blame all your problems on?
>>67729536
Doubtful, Cruz actually did horribly considering it was his home state and same with Kasich.
>>67725755
> it's just telling all the republicans yeah your vote doesn't matter.
How does it say that?
If a majority of the delegates pick someone how is that undemocratic?
In Canada leadership conventions often go to multiple ballots and the person leading on the first ballot does not always win..
>>67727713
>they may choose to vote Trump.
Delegates tend to be establishment. They're put at that position by the republican establishment.
Out of 2,472 Republican delegates, 1,719 are pledged delegates (i.e voted in locally). Trump popularity is 30% to 40%ish in the republicans. Let's assume that 40% of those pledged delegates are extreme Trump supporters to the point where they worship him. There is still a majority who belong to the establishment and religious right.
In other words, Trump is fucked when it comes to a brokered convention.
Kasich is just being a dick. Him staying in was a huge factor in Rubio's sudden collapse. If he was a pawn of the establishment, he'd have dropped out with Jeb! to make way for Marco.
>>67729348
He has a shot in Utah, but the demographics for the rest of the roster lean in Trump's favor.
>>67729610
He's played a role in funding organizations such as FEMEN and BlackLivesMatter so the complaints are valid.
>>67729721
>Hey, guys, let's go vote for our nominee!
>Alright we have heard you loud and clear, you chose two guys which the party absolutely hated but we're going in the complete opposite direction and choosing another dude by ourselves.
>Oh, btw you're all bigots and literal nazis. See you in the general election!
>>67729821
No. Kasich literally just stayed in for Ohio, and now that he got it they will keep him in with the hopes he gets another state or two that people may not otherwise want to vote for Cruz. As long as Trump doesn't hit that magic number, they will just have Cruz or Kasich be the front runner.
>>67729522
But why? Why would you work so hard when you're already a billionaire only to give the ultimate role to someone else?
What could the Clintons offer to Trump that he wouldn't have as President anyways???
That theory is some bonafide jibbery style oinkery bullshit
>>67730118
Pretty much, though I worry about Penn and Wisconsin.
Maryland and Deleware will be Kucksucks.
Montana and the dakotas will be Cruz's.
>>67729610
Yes he a gud boi who dun nuffin wrong
>>67728120
>the dems did that years ago with super-delegates so its not like it would be a surprise
The thing is that super-delegates switch to whoever is winning like they did with Obama in 08. If the Republicans go to a brokered convention and don't choose whoever won the most delegates there will be a shitstorm and I can guarantee you the Republicans will lose the general election.
>>67729721
because here in the US, the vote is supposed to belong to the people. even the nominees.
Unfortunately, we've come to find out that we have these 'committees' we don't really know about who like to decide these things for us and give us their pre-approved picks. And pretend we have a choice.
They are going through these primaries so that we can vote for who we want to run for president. That's what is supposed to be happening anyway.
but...enter the paid, bribed, and solicited 'committees'.
Trump running has exposed them. the delegates are supposed to vote the way their voters indicate.
>>67729348
>live in cali
>mom was going for cruz
>brainwash her with trump faq for months
>she's going for trump and telling people to vote trump too
it takes persistence
>find common misconceptions about trump the media balloons
>research and get to the truth, the media lied so keep the truth simple and ready to go
>keep propping up trump throughout the day
this is the absolute most important of all.
>never attack their candidate
When bernie cucks come to pol saying drumft or "xenophobic bigot"you trash their opinions. It's tough but keep propping up your candidate. You may lose debates, it happens. Eventually they start going for your guy and in no time your household will support trump. That's what I did.
>>67729821
GOPe thought they could get a singular front runner to beat Trump. There were still too many candidates diluting the delegate math so that didn't happen. Some more candidates dropped out but not enough to make it a reality so the GOPe resorted to Plan B which will go just as badly since Kasich cannot mathematically get enough delegates and nearly all Republicans despise Cruz.
Then again, all of these politicians are too short-sighted to see the bigger picture that even the average Joe can see.
>>67730650
>we've come to find out
We have know this for decades actually. I just can't remember a time that they have been this blatant about it.
>>67729821
Like all Republicans they don't understand basic math. That's why they run up crazy debts like in Ohio.
>>67725228
A perfect excuse to ban more guns!
>>67729610
Why yes pseudonordic, Soros is responsible for all our problems.
In fact, he's meme'd far less than he should be.
>>67729821
I don't think there is any state where Rubio could have won if he had Kasich's delegates. If anything, him staying has hurt Ted the most, since Kasich's supporters are likely to go 60% to Cruz and 40% to Trump, or something like that.
>>67730375
>by ourselves.
Not by themselves.
The delegates elected in the primary process are picking the leader.
There are no smoke filled rooms of apparatchiks making decisions.
The party requires voting to continue until someone has a majority.
Honestly if the GOPe just says fuck it and crowns Jeb or Romney the nomination, Trump will be seen as a patron saint of the anti-establishment movement. He would have a voice and more political juice than a President who might or might not be a very good one.
>>67730650
Trump doesn't have a majority. He was less than 50% of the support. How the fuck is that a majority?
The rules for a primary were set to best reflect the majority of the voters. If trump can't get that, then he shouldn't be whining for not whining.
But this isn't parliement. Trump isn't a minority ruling party who has to try and make a coalition. Republicans don't have time for that because the general election is coming up. And they don't have time to redo the primary/caucuses like how parliement can recall an election to see if there's going to be a majority.
Thus, it makes sense to have the delegates vote.
>>67730723
Thanks for reminding us how vapid the average voter is
Kasich voters would go for Cruz over Trump so I don't see why you guys are so butthurt about him staying in, other than denying Trump Ohio's delegates.
>>67724742
>Cruz finally really losing to Trump
feelsgoodman
>>67730650
Same here. We send delegates to a convention and they keep voting until someone has a majority, not a plurality.
>>67731191
Trump is in the middle of them so no. Trump is both of their 2nd choices, or they'd stay home.
>>67731279
>Kasich, the most pro immigration candidate outside of Rubio, his voters are going to go to Trump
yeah okay.
>>67731408
If that's their stance, and they are willing to be 1 issue voters, then they are democrats and can eat a nigga dick.
>>67731191
Why are Cruz fags so delusional? Cruz has seen no bump since Rubio became basically the 3rd wheel. Kasich is and never will be a threat, so Kasich voters are basically abstaining from voting for those two. Trump will pick up enough from Kasich to not even need to worry.
>>67731022
>The party
Which is another part of the problem. It's always about the party, not the constituents and certainly not the country.
>>67729522
Trump has been wanting the presidency since the 80s. He tried getting Geroge HW to think about him being VP before picking Quayle
>>67729522
>Trump is a weapon devised by the Clintons to derail Kasich's campaign
I would believe you if he dropped out when he started reviving death threats. People want to kill him and he's putting his life on the line every time he does a rally. The man wears a god damn bullet prof vest for fuck sake, he's for real.
>>67731626
People who voted for Kasich are against Trump. Trump isn't picking anything from Kasich.
Trump will still be more popular, but not a majority. And his popularity could drop. Anyway, the threat of a brokered convetion becomes more of a reality as long as Kasich and Cruz stays.
>>67731626
how am I a Cruz fag if I'm saying Kasich staying in the race is actually BENEFICIAL to trump fags and you shouldn't be so butt bothered about it?
You have to win 8 states to be in the convention.
>>67731932
You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. Again, Rubio voters (the most center of the bunch) have not gone to Cruz in big numbers, they are actually favoring Trump. The states are polling overwhelmingly to Trump. His numbers could, hypothetically, drop but they haven't so far and you have no real reason to assume they will, so at this point go suck Trudeau dick.
>>67729096
Aren't the the remaining states winner takes all, which states can OPEN BORDERS man take from Trump?
>>67730476
The power is never on the throne. You, ironically, are probably constantly spouting off how special interests control the country. So, if special interests control the country, is it really better to be the President, or part of the special interest?
Can Trump run as an independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination?
>>67732686
Yes, but he will lose, and he knows it.
>>67732686
Yes, but he said in one of the early debates that he wouldn't, and doing it would virtually guarantee a Clinton win.
>>67732686
It would guarantee four years of Hillary.
>>67732863
>>67733005
Disregard leaf posts.
>>67733005
He said he wouldn't if he lost fairly.
>>67733047
>>67732686
Trump running as an independent would wreck the current Republican party. Unless Clinton starts a war she'd easily get reelected.
>>67732686
Depending if a state has a sore-loser law, then he wouldn't be printed on the ballot for a general election. I haven't done too much research on it, unless it becomes a reality.
>>67732686
He'd be as successful as the bull-moose party. Hillary would win.
>>67724742
I can't stop reading this guy's fucking name and thinking it's pronounced Kaish.
>>67733180
He signed a pledge. Not sure how legally enforceable it is.
>>67733484
>posted in wrong thread
wew
>>67729610
hes donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to kasich
>>67730264
While his later years are full of shit, look up Cryman's reports on Soros. Fucking bastard must have been trained by the KGV.
>>67727416
top heh
Here's to (you)
>>67733541
It isn't. However, it looks bad that the GOP wants to shaft him when in the agreement it explicitly stated that they would treat him fairly.
>>67733180
>fairly
How big will the milk outs be when Trump gets brokered?
>>67729610
He's funding Kasich, funded the Chicago protests, and is now funding http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/16/anti-trump-groups-threaten-largest-civil-disobedience-action-of-the-century/
He is the master of puppets hiding in the not to dark shadows.
>>67733723
>GOP wants to shaft
How is he being shafted? He needs a majority of the delegates to support him. If that doesn't happen he loses. If someone else does they win. It's not complicated and quite democratic.
>>67733541
The pledge is only as good as the GOPe's willingness to honor the agreement. Given that they've been playing funny shit against him this entire cycle its entirely probable he has no intention of honoring it.
>>67733990
What funny shit? Why do you Trump supporters have such a victim complex?
>>67724905
The kikes are so terrified of Trump. Why would the kikes worry though, if they did nothing wrong to deserve it??
>>67728892
>>67729348
If anyone but Trump is the republican nominee, then I'm not voting republican for the next decade. I had might as well vote democrat and get it over with since all of the kikes or the right are basically progressive liberal light.
>Trump not treated fairly
>Cruz gets nomination
>Trump drags down Cruz with him
>Hillary gets the nomination
>stupid idea
>Trump realizes that guarantees a Hillary nomination
>GOP knows Trump realizes this
>GOP nominates Cruz
>Cruz gets nomination
>Trump doesn't do anything
Does it matter who they give the nomination to? It's in the self-interest of the each candidate to not run independently because it will guarantee Hillary.
>GOP reads my post
>I make a mistake because they don't realize this
>Cruz gets nominated
>No 8 years of memes...
Why?
>>67733982
That's not what I was talking about. I'm referring more to the shady actions such as this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/trump-denounces-rnc-illegal-fundraiser-invoking-his-name/
>>67734405
>Trump
>doesn't do anything after humiliation and betrayal
Nice one.
>>67729721
>In Canada
literally who cares
>>67730394
But if he drops out. Don't the winner take all states stop being winner takes all? I thought I heard someone mention that during one of the primaries.
>>67725228
niger you have no idea what the GOP wants. hint, it's not trump. If he doesn't secure delegates, he's not going to get in you retard. i can not wait for the butt blast
>>67734159
Totally unfair, biased treatment. Very sad!
>>67734822
It will take some time for /pol/tards to understand that Trump is NOT going to get the nomination if he fails to hit 1237.
Here's a clear sentence.
Trump will NOT win the nomination if he doesn't win the required amount of delegates.
Read that sentence 3 times loudly. Please. Just get that through your head. OK? The establishment aren't doing all these dirty tricks so that they cower to Trump at the very last second.
>>67734658
It's a very similar process only we do it over a much shorter time period because we aren't still using the same systems we used in the horse and buggy era.
My point still stands that a multi ballot convention until a majority is achieved is not undemocratic. In fact the opposite is true.
>>67725228
Sweden
>>67733541
gop broke it you fucking leaf cuck
>>67724742
>So we are 100% sure Kasich has been promised the nomination
Of course not.
he wants a cabinet position.
he's not going to leave ohio for a vp spot that MIGHT get elected, but he'll leave it for a cabinet spot that's guaranteed.
Cruz is going to get the nomination because all of rubios votes will go to him (or kasich) the first round of voting, and after that, various delegates are freed up and Cruz will get the amount needed in the second vote.
>>67735247
would of
You dont understand. There will be riots. Why even have a democracy if you just decide in a back room somewhere who gets it?
The GOP is done for, at least the people that were in control of it are.
You should have heard some shill on NPR during live coverage, just stammering his out of touch ass on how "their are rules"
Trump is Golden right now
>>67735034
He only needs 53% of the rest of the delegates. If he takes California and New York he has essentially secured the nomination.
>>67735297
>white people
>riots
>>67735042
It is possible for the delegates to misrepresent the will of the people, or their 'constituents' when they vote.
That's part of where the unfairness comes from. Not illegality, but unfairness.
Please stop purposely trying to make Canadians look bad. We do a fine job of that already.
>>67725755
They did it to Andrew Jackson in 1824 when he narrowly missed the majority and john Quincy Adams was chosen at the convention but he ended up using it against them, saying the party is corrupt and rallied even more supporters to beat john Quincy Adams in 1828
>>67735319
Yes, I believe that too. Trump can easily win more than just 53%. However, that's just winning against the establishment's Plan A. You better fucking believe they have a Plan B.
>>67735319
it's about 50/50 that he gets it. my guess is he doesn't. GOP then nominates someone else, trump is butt blasted and then runs indepnedent. further screwing the gop. lol can't wait.
>>67735319
Are you fucking retarded? Trump has before him the hand that nobody ever has before. He will curbstomp Hillary into the polls just like he will win with anyone else. In fact, I bet you $1000 that the polls are will be showing the win for him.
>>67735247
>gop broke it you fucking leaf cuck
Let him run then. Enjoy your 4 years of Clinton in the white house.
>>67735297
>Trump as Fulgrim
That's not a flattering comparison, even for a traitor primarch.
>>67735319
I wonder how many "independents" will register as a republican so they can vote against Trump in Cali
>>67735483
>>67735479
even though the GOP hates Trump they hate Cruz more and Kasich has one fucking state out of 30 or so to his name. It's gonna be a trump nom
>>67735703
>they hate Cruz more
>>67735703
>they hate Cruz more
Must be why they're attacking Cruz on all fronts.
>>67735703
>even though the GOP hates Trump they hate Cruz more
this used to be true, until they realized that Trump is a serious neocon/dixiecrat that is highly likely to work with/side with democrats once elected.
>>67735450
In this day and age it is pretty easy to communicate with your constituents.
The majority of republicans do not support Trump, so don't be surprised if he does not get the nomination.
>>67735703
>They hate Cruz more
Wow did you drink all the Mark Levin Kool aid
>>67735829
nearly everyone attacking trump is a liberal
>>67726032
Because people are voting for the most likely person who isn't Trump.
EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. TRUMP WILL TAKE CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK AND IT WILL BE FINE.
>>67734822
>>67735479
>>67735685
>>67735775
You do know pol has ID's, right?
>>67724742
What happens with the delegates that Rubio had?
>>67735479
Don't pull probabilities out of your ass. Right now he has 55% of the delegates after Cruz got his Texas and Kasich got his Ohio while Trump hasn't gotten his New York. In order to get 53% of the delegates it's easily 80%+. Again if he secures California's winner take all he owns the nomination.
>>67735648
California is meme territory.
>>67735862
Do you even know what you're talking about? The establishment on both parties are Neocons.
>>67727945
Huckabee has a candidate.
Huckabee could literally be president guys.
>>67733946
I liked it when Soros chastised Trudeau when he went to kiss his feet though.
>Why won't you love me Master of puppets?
>>67736012
They're now free to vote to whoever they'd like. Delegates are usually establishment people so they'll vote for whoever the party leaders tell them to vote for.
>>67735042
my point still stands that you're a fucking leaf and fuck you and your system, weedman
>oooh look at me i am a canadian let me tell you all about my political system right now i am wearing a dress current year
fuck off back to the ice cap
>>67735967
of course, do you think i give a shit drumph sniffer?
>>67724742
Wouldn't it be better for the GOP if Kasich dropped out? That way Cruz has a better shot at stopping Trump from winning 1,237 and then they can just give it to whoever they want at the convention. Unless there's a few states Kasich can win that Cruz can't
>>67736048
Trump is left of anyone else running, though.
He's more of a dixie crat than anything.
>>67736465
Reddit confirmed. Pls leave. Your shilling is not welcome here. Pol is a board of peace. Praise be to kek.
>>67736255
Is needing a majority such a difficult concept?
Is there something undemocratic about it?
>>67737117
You're conflating several different concepts.
Again, please stop trying to make Canada look bad.
>>67737781
No I'm not. You need a majority to win the nomination and a majority of the party does not support Trump, so why should you expect him to win.
>>67729610
He is basicly à caricature of the jews
Not all jew are bad but this one is ones of the jew who give the whole jewish communauty a bad name
>>67738008
>a majority
A majority of delegates, not support you fucking leaf
>>67738404
I know, but if he goes into the convention without that majority why should he win if all the other delegates are opposed to him and pick someone else?
>>67737117
If they ignore the will of more or less 60% of Republicans, it's going to bite them in the back in 2020. 60% wants a non-establishment candidate.
We had something similar happen in our country around 2010. Our nationalist party, more or less an outsider party, got like 30% of the vote, which is a big win in a six-party system. The idea is to form a coalition to get a majority.
They tried to negotiate with the Wallonian parties to get more Flemish independence, but they didn't get anywhere. For over 500 days, we didn't have a government. The "establishment" parties had no choice but to form a coalition without them.
The people didn't just forget about it, and they won big again in 2014. That's why I think there's just no way the neocons, with Rubio on the forefront, can ever regain the presidency. Everyone's tired of them.
>>67731045
He does have a majority you stupid fuck. If there wasn't like a gajillion other fucking candidates staying in for as long as they have he'd be fucking winning. Jesus. Fuck off leaf
>>67724742
serious question: why don't they want trump now? didn't trump sign a "contract" with the republican party? i'm confused because why take him if you wouldn't like him eventually?
>>67738661
>60% wants a non-establishment candidate.
source?
If that's true and Trump is the only non-establishment candidate why isn't he winning every state by a landslide?
Why is he having to finesse his way to victory by winning narrow pluralities in 3 candidate races?
>>67738580
He's likely to win a majority of the delegates even if he continues on a ~40% pace in the remaining states
If he gets 45% support in the remaining states there is no way he doesn't get the 1237 delegates needed for the nom
Assuming Kasich stays in
>>67738930
>He does have a majority you stupid fuck.
National polls put him at 40% among republicans.
>>67739008
A lot of people think Cruz isn't an establishment candidate.
If by some miracle, Kasich wins the majority of delegate in seven more states AND the savior of the white race fails to win a majority of the delegates, it will go to a brokered convention, where Kasich will be given the nomination.
OR
Kasich wants to amass as many delegates as he can so that he can give his delegates to the candidate that fails to meet the simple majority threshold in exchange for the vice presidency.
Technically he is not completely eliminated yet.
>>67724742
lrn2commoncore
YOU'RE FUCKING OLD
>>67739306
This is insanity
The definition of low information
>>67739126
I agree, but if he doesn't he could easily lose on a second ballot. Not many Kasich or Rubio or Bush delegates will be going to Trump.
>>67739008
Cruz is also non-establishment. If there's a contested convention, there's a big chance he won't get the nomination either.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-establishment-lane-may-have-always-been-a-dead-end/
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/nevertrump__alwayshillary.html
>>67739306
He's more establishment than Trump and will draw most of the Bush/Kasich/Rubio delegates on a second ballot
>>67739306
He's not establishment. Ted Is as far right as they go. Farther than even the GOP is willing to go.
>>67726609
RNC logic
3 candidates :1237 goal
5 candidates: still 1237 goal
why because fuck you
>>67724742
"It'll be educational for all the kids to see how we vote for a president."
>>67739944
>why because fuck you
no, because majority
because democracy.
runoff voting is a better indicator of the will of the people than a single ballot
>>67724742
>CURRENT GOOGLE TOTAL: 673 DELEGATES
IN NEED OF 564 TO REACH 1,237.
>ARIZONA – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 58 DELEGATES
(673+58=731)
>UTAH – WINNER-TAKE-MOST 7 DELEGATES
(738)
>NEW YORK – WINNER-TAKE-MOST 70 DELEGATES
(808)
>CONNECTICUT – WINNER-TAKE-MOST 17 DELEGATES
(825)
>DELAWARE – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 16 DELEGATES
(841)
>MARYLAND – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 38 DELEGATES
(879)
>PENNSYLVANIA – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 17 DELEGATES
(896)
>RHODE ISLAND – PROPORTIONAL 11 DELEGATES
(908)
>INDIANA – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 57 DELEGATES
(965)
>NEBRASKA – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 0 – LOSE
(965)
>WEST VIGINIA – DIRECT ELEC. 19 DELEGATES
(984)
>OREGON – PROPORTIONAL 10 DELEGATES
(994)
>WASHINGTON – WINNER-TAKE-MOST 7 DELEGATES
(1,001)
>CALIFORNIA – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 172 DELEGATES
(1,173)
>NEW JERSEY – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 51 DELEGATES
(1,224)
>SOUTH DAKOTA – WINNER-TAKE-ALL 0 - LOSE
(1,224)
>NEW MEXICO – PROPORTIONAL 13 DELEGATES
(1,237)
BTFO GOPe. BTFO
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
>>67739771
>Cruz is also non-establishment.
People don't like Cruz, that doesn't make him non-establishment
I remember awhile back now, before the Fox debate that Trump wouldn't do, I remember some anon claiming to be in communication with the elite and he said that Kasich was going to be the winner.
This was before Rubio's 15 minutes of fame, let alone Kasich's.
I thought it was ridiculous at the time but could this have been their plan or at least plan B the whole time?
>>67739944
You are pretty dumb, anon. You need 50% of delegates no matter how many candidates there are.
>>67740868
>>67729721
>How does it say that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxWGv7wIUuI
"The media has created a perception that the voters will decide the nomination and that's the conflict here."
>>67741090
yeah and the delegates can still choose who they want.
I'm not saying I buy it, but it's more likely than it was a couple of months back.
>>67740772
He's a tea party Republican. There's no way in hell he can be considered part of the establishment. It's not just his personality that is offputting.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-09-08/ted-cruz-to-star-in-government-shutdown-the-sequel
The establishment wants to push forward someone like Romney or Paul Ryan in a brokered convention.
>>67739801
>He's not establishment.
His wife works for fucking Goldman Sachs. He got a one million dollar loan from them when he announced he was running for president, and failed to claim said million dollars.
He is as establishment as it gets.
>>67741272
He's just saying delegates decide, not ground level voters.
the same way you don't vote directly for a bill in congress, you vote for a representative who votes for a bill.
it's still democratic
>>67741994
>His wife works for fucking Goldman Sachs.
>>67739801
>He's not establishment.
>>67739306
>Cruz isn't an establishment candidate.
>>67741994
>His wife works for fucking Goldman Sachs. He got a one million dollar loan from them
Therefore he is a corporate shill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQSD0MPKka8
If it's Kasich versus Clinton he would win
>>67742329
I honestly don't know why any (R) votes for Kasich
>>67724905
>>67725755
This is why you vote third party.
>>67740746
Trump could win Utah because its very close, and now that Rubio dropped out, it depends on whether his voters will go to trump or rato.
>>67725005
is this you by chance pedro?
>>67742528
You're forgetting about the Mormons, who leaned towards Cruz in Idaho. Mitt Romney is also a Mormon so maybe he'll get involved for the state primary.
there is no rule that he has to drop out and he actually has a good chance of getting the nomination in a brokered convention if trump doesn't get the >50% needed
>>67724742
He's just trying to collect as many delegates as he can to force it into convention where he can use them to bargain with for perks, political appointments, etc.
>>67725005
>hyper-typical elitism, aren't these British faggots ever at wor- Mexico?
Lol
>>67743078
Kasich does not control those delegates. he cannot use them as bargaining chips
>>67728406
Who picks the delegates?
>>67744846
Primary voters.
