>We need to rebuild our military
Why would he say this when America already has the strongest military on the planet?
>>67722012
Votes?
It can always be STRONGER
>>67722012
This is the one thing that makes zero sense to me, as a military member.
>>67722096
This is why u lose to emus
>>67722012
service members get paid minimum wage
meanwhile a fucking burger flipper wants 15 dollars to flip burgers
>>67722012
do you know how much technology advances when you fund things like nasa and the military?
>>67722012
With cyborgs, robots and Mexican killing drones
Get the women and Gays out who're holding us back with their weak genes
>>67722012
Let's say our army has a strength value of 10
Russia is a 6
Over the years we become a 7
Russia still a 6
Doesn't take a genius to fill in the fucking blanks here people
Our troops are stretched out all over the world when they dont need to be.
>>67722012
They would probably run out of ordnance before china runs out of cannon fodder
>>67722012
Because to Americans spending more on the military than the rest of the world combined is considered weak.
>>67722012
Because the military is being used in stupid ways, the people in it aren't brave civilians trying to defend their country, they're savvy people looking for free education. Also they're putting millions into this anti rape campaign when there's women in the navy getting their chiefs fired for holding them accountable.
>>67722012
The airforce got gutted but then they expect us to produce just as much airpower as before. Its retarded and unsustainable
>>67722012
The average American is dumb and "muh military" is a.buzzword that had been instilled into his head from an early age, so he responds positively to it.
Obama has made significant cuts to the military. Our fleet has been diminished to 272 active ships, Army personnel has been downsized considerably Obama has scaled down our nuclear arsenal, etc.
Whether or not you agree with expanding these features back to pre-Obama levels or beyond, he did significantly downsize the military.
>>67722012
Because that's what Republican primary voters want to hear.
He's just being consistent with the rest of his campaign thus far.
>>67722187
You never once thought it could be more efficient? Because that's what he's saying.
It has efficiency and modernization issues across the board. All branches have long been stuck in a cold war way of thinking that ultimately have proven to be somewhat inflexible. As for efficiency, it sufferers from the same bureaucratic bloat the government exhibits.
It is by far the strongest, but there is much room for improvement.
Under budget
Ahead of schedule
>>67722012
Lots of our equipment is outdated, including our infantry weapons, light vehicles, artillery pieces, etc. Many procurement failures have cost the US lots of money like the XM8, XM25, XM307, and F35.
>>67722187
>>67722012
Most of the carriers are laid up for overhauls
Obongo has been making the military fight insurgencies out of the gross budget, whereas Bush would periodically ask for 30 billon for warfighting efforts in Iraq or GWOT.
>>67722012
>strongest military in the world
not strong enough to defeat ISIS
>>67722012
If people don't fear you anymore, there is something wrong with your army.
>>67722012
Because he's playing the party like a damn fiddle
Rebuild as restructure, reconfigure, modernise, make into a sleeker, more efficient military body more efficient to the new millenium.
>>67722012
We need to increase strength. Mwaheheheh
>>67722487
>>67722450
>>67722374
>>67722096
Found the teenagers who have never served
>>67722012
they have grown incompetent they couldn't even take out Isis in a single month
unless it's all a joke to begin with
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>>67722012
>strongest military on the planet
LMAO
>>67722463
ONLY 272 active ships?
Its over for you 'merica!
>>67722012
because other countries have to pay for protection
>>67722618
And look at how much Bush got done with less money, looking back on it. Meanwhile Obama just "loses" 20 billion from time to time.
>>67722676
Found the gullible twat who thinks a rich New York narcissist gives a damn about soldiers.
>>67722537
>XM8
That wasn't a big program. I doubt much money was lost.
>XM25
Didn't the military end up using that?
>XM307
Don't know what that is.
>F-35
Nice meme bro.
>>67722463
You're stupid. Did you see Obama's response to Romney when he said the Navy had the fewest ships since sometime in the 1800s? We no longer shoot at each other using rifles, from damn rowboats. Learn your shit.
I can think of a couple things
>Letting women in combat roles because of MUH EQUALITY, despite the fact they almost always under-perform
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/sep/10/marines-women-in-combat-task-force-results/
>creating a "PC sjw-lite military
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/11/political-correctness-has-destroyed-the-armys-readiness-and-morale/
>>67722696
>you are now imagining an army of Vietnamese guerrillas, Chechens, Serbians and Gurkhas
as long as they would stop killing each other that would be a scary force
>>67722463
>Only 272 ships
How many ships are required?
>>67722374
we bought a great pile of scrap metal. but planes bought for the sake of keeping 2 plane companies busy dont defend america
they literally have recycled planes that have never been used many times. tomahawks cost millions even today. technology cost less over time but the military has been paying new prices on everything
a tomahawk shouldnt even cost 1 mil per unit today. more than a 20 year old guidance system and a frame that hasnt even been revised. microprocessors from 20 years ago dont even cost $20 now
they paid for a rail gun to be put on ships but subs can sink them no worries. radar stealth is defeated by doubling up radar stations. and murica doesnt have enough man power
>>67722676
Enjoy policing around other nations and wasting valuable tax dollars. If there is ever a threat on US soil you can come back to me, yawn.
USA MILITARY IS FILLED WITH WEAK WEAK WEAK HOMOSEXUALS JEWS NEGROS DEGENERATES
FUCKPIG FUCKPIG FUCKPIG
>>67722676
Found the good goy who wants to die for Israel
>>67722187
Well we don make deals for the arms manufacturers annd not necessarily for the good of the military. Thats What I take this to mean.
>>67722279
Significantly less than the same amount of money invested in private industry R&D.
>>67722623
We can't glass anything.
I love Donald Trump. I would do anything He asked me to do. I would lay down my life for Him. If He came here today and told me to die for Him, I would slit my own throat without a second thought.
>>67722257
Cousin went Air Force, he makes slightly above minimum, free food, free two story house, basically free college, and other minor vet bonuses. All he does is paperwork, then plays MMO's all day. Seems pretty sweet to me.
>>67722096
A
FUCKING
EMU
>>67722802
>Nice meme bro.
Not a meme if you can fucking google.
>Don't know what that is.
Not my problem.
>Didn't the military end up using that?
Yes, but not anywhere near the numbers needed to be a worthwhile project.
>That wasn't a big program.
It was a fucking stupid one and every dollar into it was wasted on a sub-par rifle that performed worse than the M4.
Other examples if I need to keep going are the KC-46 aircraft (325% the cost of its predecessor)
>>67723129
>muh world police!
Every NATO member would be vulnerable without us, so until they decide to pull their own weight we've got to have adequate reserves of manpower and equipment.
>If there is ever a threat on US soil you can come back to me.
Yeah, because we'd wait to be invaded before having the things we need to protect ourselves. Great idea.
By the way, your kumbaya candidate Bernie authorized the allocation of several billion dollars in overseas military operations funding in the 2000s. You won't hear about that though.
>>67722012
>durr it has the strongest
He's going to rebuild and make it more cost efficient.
Right now they spend thousands of dollars on a single screw
>>67723642
>implying it's not obvious I'm an isolationist libertarian
>>67723125
They are paying those prices because the military industrial complex is a bubble economy which is floating pretty much the entire east coast, a good chunk of the south, and a reasonable amount of California and. The moment they stop pumping federal money in it that bubble will burst and drag the whole country down with it like the housing crisis times 15 and since our dollar is the global reserve currency it will ripple across the entire global economy.
You have no idea how many jobs are provided by the military, military contractors, sub contractors, and logistics agencies that coordinate between them. They are stalling for time until either a major war breaks out or China collapses because those are the only ways out of this hole.
>>67722012
This is one of the only things I'm worried about regarding him. Rome's decline started due to special attention for the military and them getting spoiled as a result
Granted, the military which started the snowball of revolts was spoiled rotten and wasn't worth a shit, and was a private police force for the emperor... but still there is a slight similarity
>>67722012
The american military is the closest thing there is to a global empire. When our strength wanes, the strength of others comes to fill in the void.
>>67722735
>this is a 10/10 in bongland
Basic geopolitics. The world would become unstable very quick without the current balance of power.
>>67722951
All of them
To fight the reptilian armada.
>>67722187
>in the military
Then you know that, compared to what some of the old timers experienced, training standards have gone to shit.
>>67722012
Maybe to make it cheaper? Spending cuts? Less wars? Rebuild=Renovation
>>67722735
>not realizing how big our coast is
Strong America = Best for world peace and grace
Americans need to use that leverage in the future better without resorting to invasions
>>67723307
Disagree. When it comes to military we have invented much more than just free market enterprise has been able to do. DARPA has been incredible for all of society however you want to look at it.
Say what you will but the Nazis had a fighter pilot that was 40 years ahead of its time once the allies occupied it. The Germans had the best weapons and tanks for a reason.
>>67723497
yea its sweet for people who dont want freedom and get do nothing jobs. i work 70+ hour weeks regularly and my dorm is literally about the size of a twin bed.
its a coin flip senpai
>>67723497
Chairforce
>>67722187
You must be one of the female rangers they totally didnt change standards for.
>>67726159
>Strong America
>best for world
iwonderwhocouldbebehindthispost.jpg
>>67722012
He means we need to remove all the women, niggers, spics, and mentally ills from it and turn it back into a RWDS-force then use it to genocide the left, Muslims, and Jews from American soil and eventually Europe.
Pretty fucking obvious what he means
>>67726323
every branch has nonners
>>67723642
I see the bankers have indoctrinated you very well.
>>67722187
All branches took huge hits after OIF drawdown. You have to remember that it was one of the few times in US history where all reserves including the national guard were activated. Lots of units had their deployments doubled.
Retention for experienced servicemen just completely fucking tanked, and not enough people are replacing the old as fuck old guard. All branches are also overrun with affirmative action and bureaucratic nonsense. Most units are unable to administer extended operations, they have no soul or drive.
>>67726291
Do you get to fiddle lolis?
I always take it to mean he wants to FIX the military
The military gets suckered into buying shit it doesn't need all the fucking time, trump wants to shave those shitty things off the budget and make it stronger
>>67722187
Same here. Hopefully he means to:
1.) Give more power to the military brass with regards to strategy.
2.) Clean up the military industrial complex, bidding process, etc.
I mean, its THE CURRENT YEAR, military is about efficiency, size doesn't matter as much.
If I hear one politician say "our Air Force is the smallest it has been since pre-WW2" I'm gunna lose it. Such a dumb statement.
>>67722515
>>67722618
>>67723289
>>67725030
>>67726484
I have always taken his words to mean "we need to increase our military capability."
>we need to rebuild our military
>we're going to build our military so big, so strong, nobody is gonna mess with us, nobody
I have never assumed they meant "we need to increase our entrance and training standards." Because I don't think those problems are clear to people on the outside.
>>67722257
and fuck up your order
>>67722012
We need to make sure our military is the strongest in the Milky Way Galaxy too
>>67722676
>Found the teenagers who have never served
wow, bold stance to take on /pol/
>>67722012
Every male over the age of 18 is a member of the military in China. Their military is larger than the entire US population.
>>67726287
I think you're both kind of right. Government funds DARPA. DARPA funds private R&D via various projects & contests.
>>67722012
He's going to scrap the Geneva convention. No more ROE.
>>67727496
This is true, the bidding process is SHIT. We had a project with a budget of $800,000 to basically build an air conditioned 2500sqft warehouse. The contractor that won the bid came in at $799,999 and built it smaller than was desired.
I've never heard anything good about the contracting system.
Our military can't even pick a new fucking handgun.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/11/army-chief-milley-criticizes-mhs-red-tape-wants-power-select-new-pistol/
He said we need to do it for cheaper as well. Essentially what he means is, no more shitty contracts that favor corporate interests and financial affairs over equipment that the US military actually needs, according to the generals and higher ranked. For example, the F-35, useless and insanely expensive, costing almost 2 trillion dollars, was not wanted but built anyways. Funny, considering one of the many people who wanted it to be funded was Bernie Sanders, because it "created jobs in my state of vermont", very selfish and near sighted decision.
>>67727792
On the other hand much of the US population is armed, they aren't military but our civilians aren't truly non combatants either.
It's only something that would ever come into play if there were ground forces on US soil obviously but still worth keeping in mind.
>>67722012
He wants to bring Patton back
>>67727253
>Trump is planning-oriented
You know he's just saying "mulitary" because it makes republicans wet?
>>67728424
We need another ass-kicker with warvision like Patton.
>>67722012
>strongest military
That allows faggots and trannys in
That allows woman to have lower standards then men.
New recruits have classes before they enter training that teach them exactly what drill sergeants can and can’t do: They can’t harm them physically. They can’t yell at them. They can’t smoke them until the new soldiers can’t move.
Lower standards lower discipline
>>67722012
It can always be stronger.
>>67722735
That's a great picture of the Queen that you give money to everyday for no fucking reason at all. She sure is a cutie pie, while taking millions for doing literally nothing!
>>67727182
average japanese girls are actually really ugly in my opinion but yea ive banged a few hot ones, the sound they make is ear shattering lol
>>67722012
He's not talking about the physical strength, he's talking about replacing the shit-tier generals that Obama has in play
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-099379
Rebuilding our military means getting back good generals and re-establishing a chain of command that strengthens the insitution, he's not referring to building new planes or ships or anything.
>>67729316
Yeah I went there in the Navy and I was drowning in nip pussy, they love big American sailors, and our wads of cash, I still miss it.
>>67722012
Literally nothing Trump says makes any fucking sense. All he does is shout autistic redneck memes.
>>67722257
>service members make minimum
No they don't.
>>67722012
Jobs military standard has reduced with boots on ground
>>67722012
it should be stronger. the army uses right now the 5.56 which is a modified 22LR. We should to a .308 or 7.62, bullet
>>67722330
>USA is 7
>Russia is 6
U WUT M8?
We have 10 aircraft carriers, Russia has 1. ONE! Russia ain't got shit on us. No country does. In full scale war USA is magnitudes more prepared and armed than every other country.
Try pulling your head out of your ass.
Was wondering if anyone had posted this yet.
x47b x48 x37c long range stealth nuclear drone suicide bomber drones and satellite hunters. america is gearing up to fight ET.
>>67722012
>cant even beat isis
your military is a joke mate. fuckin retards with guns
>we have the most retards so we have the most military
>>67730108
nice ID, clear the 3 and it's GUN 25 PC.
>>67730497
What vehicle is the the right most one?
We /mercarmy/ now?
>>67722187
>>67722012
Twelve years ago you had articles about how troops deployed in Iraq had to buy body armor out of their own pocket and hajji-rig their vehicles by sticking plates of metal on the underside to protect from IEDs, and you're asking how it could be stronger??
>>67722696
>a few hundred
>not a few millions
>>67730449
We don't have the most retards. Cgina does. That is what Trump is talking about. That is why he is the dumbest candidate
"I have a very good brain and I have said a lot of things"
--Trump defending his foreign diplomacy skills
>>67722012
US military is inefficient and controlled by special interests. building weapons they dont need just so the military corporations can get their shekels. thousands of tanks rotting away etc. out-dated equipment from 80's that needs to be replaced.
an inefficient military = very wasteful and expensive. rebuilding doesn't have to mean 'make it twice as big'
>>67731608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIE_MRAhEA
