If a five-year-old can understand it, why can't you?
Why should somebody be able to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth when there is so much basic need in the world today?
I like that kid, he is a good goy.
Because they earned it and no one else is entitled to their efforts?
>>67707222
Hush, pedophile, this is not your thread.
>>67707401
Why not? and very few of them 'earned' it in the traditional sense, pham.
Because they worked for their wealth and earned it fair and square. Maybe if you got off your lazy asses and worked like they did you wouldn't be so poor.
>>67707435
That's not your place to decide.
Nor is it the child's.
Hopefully someone will rape some sense into this taught little boy.
>>67707621
Yes, it is, all citizens have a right to decide.
>Hopefully someone will rape some sense into this taught little boy.
Fucking pedophile.
>>67707094
>tfw your mom fucked some trucker and forgot to remember his name and now you are being raised by a single mother that doesn't even receive child support
No one is making your poor fag parents fuck and shit out children
>>67707435
80% of the 1% are self made
>>67707716
You're not a citizen, you have to earn that.
>fucking pedophile
I hope to be :^)
>>67707435
If they didn't earn it, one of their ancecstors did
>>67707435
I earn 100K a year in the bay area and care barely net positive each month. I have a wife and a kid. My wife doesn't work but takes care of my kid.
Do you think they should tax my income more?
>>67707903
Not really, as a lot of people consider goobers like Trump and the Kochs to be 'self-made"
>>67707919
Not usually, it is more likely than not that if you go back far enough it was either stolen or simply gifted to the 'right sort' after being stolen from the poor.
>>67707946
Yes, at LEAST 50% but you are not the primary target.
how does one say "gibs me dat" in australian?
>>67707094
>in the world
Hike some first world wages and tax those who have just a little more than them and do nothing about developing the third-world!
>>67707996
The statistic is literally from 1%ers who did not grow up in 1% families
look it up
>>67707094
If all personally held wealth in the world (241 trillion USD) was equally divided among the world population (est. 7 billion) then each person would get approximately $34,400.
HURRRRR SO RICH MUCH WEALF
>>67708051
>Implying stealing that much isn't hard work
>>67708085
Kill yourself commie faggot
>>67707946
i assume you have literally no choice but to live where the cost of living is preposterous. you poor poor vassal.
>>67708134
oi cunt
>>67708085
Lol this nigga
>>67708188
This. Not our fault stupid niggers in Niger have 7 kids per woman. Let Darwinism do it's thing.
>>67707094
>sharing
>being robbed by Washington bureaucrats
Know the difference.
>>67707094
Because you demanding and forcing me to give up my wealth is a violation of my right to property ownership.
Fuck off you commie scum.
>>67707094
>exploiting children for use as political pawns
liberals are the perpetual cancer of societies
>>67708188
That would be great.
>>67708261
well... yes, this is where the jobs happen to be.
>>67707946
You're trying to feed a family with a single income in the most expensive area in the country, whose fault is that?
Fug you m8, I made this cake. Its mine.
>if a five year old says something or is holding a sign saying something, they're right and everyone older than them who doesn't agree with "their" statement is an idiot
Sick of this meme.
>>67707094
What makes you think you're entitled to someone elses stuff?
Would you like it if you if every month after you filled your pantry with food all the poor people in the neighborhood came in and took 90% of your food and when you tried to stop them the cops arrested you?
That's basically what wealth redistribution is.
>>67708360
Nope, its the price you get to pay for living in a great country, pham.
>>67707094
Why should some be able to sit on their ass and live off the hard work of others?
>>67707094
Because we're all greedy fucks.
Think about it next time you're in a store.
You could buy that 6-pack for 20$. Or you could skip that, go home and drink water tonight instead and send those 20$ to give clean water to a starving family of niggers for a month.
Putting aside all the /pol/ tier rantings about niggers, skipping beer night to give clean water to someone in need for a month should without much hesitation be figured out to be much more ethially and morally correct.
But are you gonna skip beer night for the sake of those worse of?
No. Fuck them. Let them drink mud for another month so that I can have my beer.
>>67707094
Sharing is a voluntary act. Not one that involves taking things by force.
>>67707094
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aus
>>67707094
Because people with obscene wealth have power, government should never have a monopoly on power.
>>67707094
Lol how much of a cuckmaster do you have to be to proudly watch your son parade that outside without feeling like an absolute fuckin failure in life
>>67708404
>34,000 dollars total
>not per year
>total
>that would be great
>>67708393
>His raped,crucified and beheaded corpse was found 2 weeks later
>>67707094
By the very nature of having large sums of money, wealth is always reinvested back into the economy.
>>67708404
Until you realize how quickly the price of ALL goods would inflate, yeah the niggers would love it
>>67707435
just because you've done nothing in your life mean it's the case for everyone
>>67707094
And people should also not demand from others. Yet your parents don't seem to get that.
>>67708393
Why do you want children to be raped?
>>67708414
Well, we're doing fine. We don't spend much on anything besides food and rent and we get to spend a lot of time raising our daughter.
I don't think we could survive by funding Jamal's healthcare though.
>>67707094
The rich do share
They pay way more taxes than you do
They donate a shit ton more than you do
They have financed public building and spaces for you
They create jobs and work for you
They innovate and invent for you
They give back so much and yet you feel entitled for more from them?
>>67708410
theres tech jobs everywhere you duplicitous faggot its the current year
>>67707094
The kid is right, rich people are horribly selfish persons , they have bank accounts for millions while millions are dying cause they can't even make a fucking dollar to eat.
Is that fair? Is that shit what the world is meant to be?
Seriously I don't think so.
Why does this board ALWAYS reply to shitty bait? You do realize you're not actually arguing with anyone or changing peoples opinions right?
>>67708458
No it isn't, because taxing the rich doesn't take food out of their mouths. A more correct analogy would be "every month you buy 10 tons of food for your family of 3, and poor people take 90% of it, leaving you with just 100kg of food, how are you going to survive!?!?!"
When in actual fact they have much much much more than they need even after the 90% is taken and there is literally no downside for anyone other than bawww I should be allowed to accumulate much more than I need.
>>67707094
wealth is imaginary, we'll just have to bring all currency to zero value then you people will get it
>>67708737
Yeah nigga that sucks, but you should be at work making money to pay for the wall.
>>67707094
>tfw live in anarcho-capitalist enclave, sell five year old boy with sign into prostitution and buy recreational nukes to fire into the place in australia I sold him to
>>67707435
someone gave them the money without being forced to do so an likely without being duped
someone decided that these people should have the money and not that little commie shit
>>67708745
i never thought of that you really changed my perspective
>>67708656
He's either a abbo or a bogan sooo yeah, probably retarded
My parents read The Little Red Hen to me when I was a kid. I learned from it.
I have no problem with a progressive tax system, but when does it end? Also - why do 50% of this country get to pay no federal taxes. In fact, almost have of them get a free check. WTF! And we're in the 33% tax bracket now (18% effective tax rate).
Everyone should have skin in the game. In might inspire them to demand better of their elected leaders.
>>67708823
"need' lol bro if you think society has the right to determine what an individual must do with their own wealth, get fucked
communal society is fucking cancer
>>67707094
Children aren't exactly known for their exemplary logic skills.
>>67708823
yep, bogan
knew it
So, do the latest Moro moves make it possible to arrest those two?
Are the syndicates gonna lock up the roads and make the cities starve?
I kinda hope so, i want to see a trucker mow down these people, i want to be that trucker.
>>67708493
I worked hard for that 20$ and deserve to treat myself to some beer if I want to.
>>67708860
Can you explain what you people get out of responding to shitposting? I don't get it.
>>67708589
hey man i could buy a really nice second car for $34k
>captcha: second drive
>>67708891
Nah not really. Poor people give up any in tax and it is literally food off the table. Richer people can give up more and its one less trip to Vegas or Disneyland.
>>67708823
What are you shitposting on right now?
A computer? A phone? A tablet?
Do you NEED those? Fuck no.
We in western society don't live in a country of needs, unless you're quite literally homeless.
>>67708493
This. The reason humans are the best is because we beat down those weaker and scramble to the top of the mud hill
Fuck the weak scum who don't work
>>67707094
I was gonna retort but I saw the flag.
>>67708841
He won't win face it faggot.
>>67708891
Do you really feel you need to be enslaved and see others enslaved so strongly?
>>67707094
the existence of industry is rich people sharing.
>>67707094
No, they shouldn't share.
No one should.
It's literally the dumbest thing one can do.
>>67708823
If the rich want to buy 10 tons of food every month and let 99% of it rot while the poor starve that's their own business and it's not anyone elses right to take it from them just cause they're not eating it.
>Why does someone have the right to do better and keep what they earned
Because the money is theirs
>>67709331
Computer AND phone, and guess what, I worked my ass off for these.
Someone with a billion dollars who did nothing other than fall out of the right vagina? nope, you should have ALL your wealth confiscated but I'm not even proposing that, just a modest levy.
Why the fuck do I have to pay for all the poor people fucking like rabbits and having little human shits?
>>67709238
>no house
>no food
>no gas money
>buying a modern BMW in the first place and not an E36
>>67707094
>implying this little faggot wouldn't throw a tantrum if you took half his toys
>>67707094
Yes rich people should share.
But they also don't have to if they don't want to and shouldn't be shit on if that's their choice.
>>67707094
theft is wrong
>>67709628
>mad because you're a virgin
>fugg you I wont give you my money
Disregard your opinion for a start.
>>67709551
Their parents worked hard to have the money to help their kids. They have every right to that money.
>>67708823
Since you only need enough money to eat, we're taking the rest of your money. Give it to us now.
>>67709735
>>67709727
>>67709762
You don't get to decide what rights are.
>>67709634
I already have those other things, and an E90.
>wanting an E36
>>67709551
But the majority of billionaires (in the US at least) weren't inherited. And who's to say they didn't work their asses off for it? I don't think you worked your ass off for your computer or phone, turn them in immediately so the wealth can be redistributed to the poor, you're in the 1% after all.
Stop shitposting so poorly Jazza or we'll take your license away.
>>67709807
I would if it applied across the board, no question. I would pay anything I own to live in a more equal society.
>>67708978
>communal society is fucking cancer
And globalization is causing it
>>67707094
Bill gates gives millions upon millions a year.
>>67709735
>>67707094
>using kids to push your politics
disgusting parents should have their kids taken away if they do this
>>67709835
Neither do you, faggot.
You're infringing on their rights to not have their property stolen from them.
>>67709835
you don't have a right to my money, commie
>>67709399
Shit costs money, and government is shit. I'm not a lolbertarian. I like having roads, sewers, cops, and teachers.
I just think nobody should be able to get a free ride. We're all in this. People making $35K / year should have to pay a token amount like $3K. We all pay taxes.
But in 2012 Mitt Romney made 100x what I made, yet he paid 5% less taxes than I did. That's messed up.
>>67709993
I'm amazed it's still recognizable at 16x9 pixels
>>67707094
>canadian or australian type of thread
i fucking knew it
While i agree charity is good, it shouldn't be forced...
>>67709882
True. Of the 1800 billionaires in the world, about 1100 of them are self-made. So, about 2/3.
>>67710115
It's funny, since you can have all those things while not stealing from people and subjecting them to the arbitrary whims of bureaucrats.
>>67707094
why tho? people withouth money are from a cast of people who never worked enough to secure the future of their descendants, if the rich people shared their wealth they would just waste it until they become poor again.
>>67708085
back to rreddit comrade
>>67707401
No man gets rich living alone on an island.
>>67709900
you're just puffing out words. should i give you my bitcoin address? I need your money more than you do.
>>67707094
>getting kikes to share
>>67708393
Fresh OC
>>67707094
>should
Why?
>>67708823
>No it isn't, because forcing hot women to have sex with optically disadvantaged men doesn't take alphas away from them.
>When in actual fact ugly people have much much more sex than they need after the 90% is taken and there literally no downside for any good looking people other than bawww I should be allowed to opt out of the forced redistribution of sex
>>67707094
come @ me boi
>>67707094
"Muh gender studies degree"
Are you fucking stupid? This is econ 101. You give people things they don't deserve, you take away any motivation for them to get up and go work. Meaning the economy isn't reaching its true potential employment level. Less jobs means less income to less people which means less public consumption and spending which leads to a decrease in aggregate demand which moves us closer to a recession.
Long story short, read a fucking book.
>>67707094
Fixed that for you ya little commie shit
>>67707094
If you have more than me, then hand it over, greedy Ausfaggot!
>>67707094
There is basic need because so many stupid niggers continue to breed at a rate of knots when they have no resources, and are violent and stupid.
why should people who worked for the position they're in be expected to foot the bill for the drug using mcdonalds worker who made bad life choices? minimum wage should allow someone to exist but that's it.
>>67709835
>You don't get to decide what rights are.
neither do you.. you have no right to commit theft
The five year old's logic is testament to the level of intellect necessary to deceive into believing this idiotic shit. Children function on a reward schedule. Free stuff is their fucking dream. The people that believe in this socialist bullshit are faggots that can't succeed in the capitalist world because they think like fucking children. They hope they'll get shit without working for it. A five year old believes Sanders because he's fucking 5, amd most probably because his shitty parents who can't provide for him have drilled liberal propaganda into his head. What's your excuse?
>>67710875
>Taxation = theft
kek, ebin meme/10.
I graduated high school with a 3.5 gpa. Couldn't afford college so went right to work. Worked my way up to $17.50/hr after 4 years and saved about $15K before I was forced to live on my own. Putting myself through community college and barely breaking even.
Where did I go wrong /pol/? I became a much better student but it is going to take me at least 3 years just to get an associates and I have no idea how to afford a bachelor's after.
I don't feel lazy...
>>67707094
>rich people should share
But they already do, scholarships. donations, charities, taxes that go straight into welfare. Rich people have built up all sorts of utilities which the poor can take advantage of to better themselves in life.
>>67710545
how were this bird-like toys called again?
>>67711069
Not everyone can be born a millionaire and given a $200 million inheritance.
Oh I get it, since children need to be taught right from wrong you're implying it's a fucktarded philosophy and the followers need to be beaten until they learn to mind their own business. Clever.
Thought experiment: if the overwhelming majority of the 1% were non-asian minorities and/or women, would the MSM and liberal universities still be in favor of redistribution of wealth?
>>67709770
>implying you're not a virgin
>>67711073
Wealth redistribution = theft.
>>67711190
I'm not, I've slept with more than a dozen women and two men.
>>67707094
its really easy to make good money and claim zero income. fuck Obama
>>67711151
furby
>>67711151
Furbies?
>>67707094
Is that the best you can do?
Five year olds also believe there is a man that lives on the northern most spot on earth that employs thousands of little people to build iPads and XBoxes and unlimited toys to give out to all the children out for free once a year. So naturally a five year old will not have an issue with the government being a Santa Claus all year long. It's perfectly reasonable.
>>67710784
Whenever someone tries to shame me with "THOSE CHILDREN DONT HAVE WHAT TO EAT" i respond. (Autism alert)
Kids dont fall from the fucking sky.
Their existence implies that 2 people out there fugged and followed months of pregnancy.
Those ignorant fucks couldnt even feed themselves and proceeded to bring even more mouths to starve.
>BUT MUH AFRICAN CHILDREN WITH KWASHIORKOR.
Fuck them, the ignorant niggers cant even feed themselves and they keep shitting out those niglets, tough luck nigglets.
The same applies to anything, Solve your own fucking problems before shitting it up worse or trying to help anyone else´s.
>>67709634
You mean
>not an e46 M3
>>67707435
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybuilder/2012/04/20/most-wealthy-individuals-earned-not-inherited-their-wealth-2/#18fdadd74802
Please be more worthy of your flag.
>>67707094
Why don't you share your wife too, cuck
>>67711073
If I have property, and you forcibly take it. That's theft. Are you telling me taxes are voluntary?
>>67707094
Cant feed em dont breed em
>>67711165
He wasn't either.
He was given $1m to start off, many years later when his dad died he was a billionaire and his fathers $300m was divided between 5 children.
>>67711219
In the unlikely event
We need to get you outside
Your exit is equipped
With an inflatable slide.
>>67711286
>>67711289
fuck yes.
nice thanks
>>67711265
>made up stories
>adding two guys in there to seem more authentic
>pretending not to be a no-life, FA virgin shitposting roo
>>67711075
Once you're 24 you'll be eligible to not be a dependant of your parents and it should be much much much easier for you to get a Pell Grant and grants from a University. Half the tuition at minimum if not all of it.
>3 years for an associates
Sweet fuck, how many hours are you taking? Take some online courses and kick up your credit hour count per semester
>>67711399
Wrong.
$600m sale to Bain Capital and partners, $200m each.
$1m loan given to him when he was starting out.
Also a high-paying job and use of the company resources to borrow against.
Ie anything but self-made.
>>67711409
You're not even shitposting anymore, you're just being a retard.
>>67707094
Someone I know for example has this mentality. We had a conversation about it. TRUMP WANTS TO LOWER TAXES ON THE RICH? THEY SHOULD BE TAXED MORE NOT LESS-but if we tax them they can leave-IT DOESN'T MATTER-now hold up. Do you own a factory?-NO do you own a company?-NO-why not?-I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY I WAS NEVER LUCKY IN LIFE A BLOO BLOO-but if you did you would, right?-RIGHT-now how would you feel if other people came in and said you owe them money purely off the principal of how much money you make?-THAT'S DIFFERENT THOUGH-wouldn't you leave those people to themselves and go somewhere else?-...THEN WE KILL THEM AND HUNT THEM DOWN-okay so we appropriate their property and money and business, who do we give it to?-THE PEOPLE-so the people are going to run these factories and companies?-YES!-and they'll continue making money?-OF COURSE-so what you're saying is, we should raise taxes until they leave the country then kill them and take their shit which causes a lot of turmoil - WHO CARES ABOUT TURMOIL THERE WILL BE BLOOD - in which they will be no longer paying any taxes whatsoever because they are dead, OR we can just lower taxes and get them to come and build here of their own accord.-BUT WE CAN TAKE A FRACTION OF THE MONEY MADE AND DEM PROGRAMS-again we can just adjust taxes on the rich and accomplish the same thing far easier-NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RICH ARE EVIL- you're the one advocating killing them and taking their shit as a plausible economic solution.-SO WHAT? Just because we got a shit lot in life doesn't mean its okay to make other people suffer. We should work with them instead of against them but we work only in our own interest and the interest of our families.-WOW ANON I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE A SHILL GO SUCK SOME MORE OF THAT BILLIONAIRE COCK YOU DELUSIONAL FAGGOT
I'M FUCKING DYING OVER HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjcD4ZBagZA
>>67707094
Suck it up you whiny faggot. You lost the lottery of life and not born with a silver spoon. it is not our obligation to give our money to losers such as yourself to share. If you want to share so much go be a commie scum
>>67709634
>E36
>not E46
>>67711586
>sale
Great, he made a sale, how is that starting out with millions? Sounds like a pretty good businessman.
>Also a high-paying job and use of the company resources to borrow against.
And? You generally use a high paying job to start a business.
>>67707094
Because it's their money and they can do with it what they please. If they wanted to give it away to provide basic needs for the world so be it, if they wanted to accumulate it all for themselves then whatever, its theirs and you have no place telling them what they should or shouldn't do with it
>>67711649
You are really fucking bipolar
>>67711791
>all people are given an elite education, $1m and high-paying job on graduation
sure m8.
>>67711075
>>67711567
Also, you need to start figuring out which states have the cheapest in-state tuition and which unis in those states have easy admissions and typically offer large needs based grants. Consider moving elsewhere to finish up your associates, then in a year you'd get in-state tuition and voila, cheaper Uni. If you go somewhere cheap, then you could easily live off what you have saved up or make ends meet just doing an on campus job along with being an RA in a dorm (which means free housing).
>>67707621
Seriously. How would that boy like to share his ass? But sir... It's my ass.
>>67707094
Here's a great exercise to share with your kids /pol/!
>step 1: Have your child cut your grass for $5 a week so they can save up for that new vidya game/toy at the store
>step 2: Tell them that they must share half of what they make with one of the non working kids so that it's fair for the other child
>step 3:every 2 weeks tell them they must earn an extra $5 on to the price of the item they want (this helps children understand money in the real world, I like to think of it like a balloon rising with the prices so I call it "inflation")
Congrats after following these 3 steps you now have a progressive child ready to help share and care with others in the real world!
remember to vote for bernie!
>>67712404
Disgusting fucking circumcised pedophile.
>>67711950
no I just did not feel like hitting shit+enter like 30 times.
>>67709770
>meme counter argument
His argument was sound, cut welfare and the poor problem will improve greatly. With the various amounts of birth control aviable, there is no excuse for children to be brought into this world if their parents cant feed them. Cant feed em don't breed em. If they were held responsible for their own actions, they would use the options available to the to prevent pregnancy in a heartbeat.
>>67707094
Was about to respond until I saw the flag.
>>67707094
i agree, force Soros, the banking cartels and Billy Nomates Gates to give up their wealth
>>67712210
>because he was given things others weren't means mugging him is legal
You were given an education and were brought up in a water-tight house, give 99% of your earnings to africa immediately.
>>67707094
sharing is caring and I don't care
>taxation
>sharing
wew lad
>>67712915
If the Queen ordered all British male subjects circumcised, would you oblige?
>>67710598
"Muh econ 101 YouTube lecture and lack of social awareness"
Are you fucking stupid? This is politics and psychology 101. You give 99% of the wealth to the top 1%, you cause the entire lower and middle class (aka the lower-lower and lower class) to destabilize the fucking country. Meaning the economy isn't reaching its true potential employment level because half of the workforce is in jail. Less workforce means more automation which means less potential for the divide in wealth to close which leads to further instability and eventually the dominance of extremist thought and internal war.
Long story short, use a bit more integrative complexity in determining your beliefs and maybe think it out for more than 5 minutes.
>>67707094
who decides who is rich?
forced "sharing" is not sharing, but theft and extortion.
Enjoy your inability to protest, Aussie, in your supposed democratic nation.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/13/australian-state-bans-right-to-protest.html
>>67712915
>to give up their wealth
How about paying the same percentage of their income in taxes that I do for a few years?
>>67707094
that kid is probably richer than 90% of the population of the world
>>67707094
Gimme your candy then, cunt
>>67707094
this is a bait thread but I'll bite
there's nothing wrong with rich people having more money than the lower classes, without them there would be no investment. However when it gets to the point where it's killing the middle class and all the money is in the hands of a tiny fraction of the population who just want to sit on it indefinitely then you have problems.
Tax system needs to be cleaned up so that corporations can't easily write off their taxes or move overseas without paying tariffs. Ideally the upper class should earn enough to live luxurious lives if they wish but have to continuously reinvest and take risks to maintain it. The US is a country of great wealth but if you should have to give back to the society who provided you with the opportunities to succeed. Want to buy a private island and drive around in a yacht all day? Go for it, but if you're just a trust fund baby who lacks the skills to maintain that wealth it will be short lived.
>>67707094
>rich people should share but i shouldn't
>>67711387
>If I have property, and you forcibly take it. That's theft.
In your opinion. Property doesn't exist outside of a social context. In other words, other people have to recognize your claim to property for it to have any meaning. If a bunch of people get together and decide that property is a useful idea, but that it comes with some strings attached (like taxes, for example), then you can either 1.) accept those rules and live peacefully within the group, 2.) leave the group, 3.) attempt to change the rules. The last option can either be done politically, or through force. You'll have a tough time with either, though, if the majority doesn't agree with you.
>>67713877
1, that Kid probably personally owns nothing whatsoever
2. He would probably share some candy with you if he got some.
Socialism is immoral
>>67713877
>"I don't know what a hierarchy of needs is and consider everyone equally obligated to share everything even when they need it to survive."
It would be nice if they did but it's still their money and they should be allowed to do whatever they want with it whether you agree with that or not
>>67713896
>in my opinion
Is that not what theft *means*? When did we suddenly all have different conceptions of theft? Why do I have to leave? Why shouldn't the people who are trying to extort me leave me alone? Why is the moral obligation on me to leave and not on them to leave me the fuck alone?
>>67707094
Oi faggot
before you start crying about why everyone else isnt giving up their lives to help the black cunts that cant support themselves
give up your own finances and security to house some refugees, get off the computer and internet because that is entertainment
Dont argue that you being here pushing a certain viewpoint is helping the situation, that you're a freedom fighter online because youre not
Youre just some faggot that has realised that you can feel superior to everyone because you figured out the world is corrupt, and like the idiot you are you see yourself in a favourable position and cannot accept the guilt so you whinge and cry like a faggot so you can appear to be altruistic amongst this sea of decadence contrasted against the immense poverty globally
well fuck you nigger
Own the fact that you live in a decent society and may have to fight and climb over other humans to keep it
that is the nature of the world and humanity
at least we can export benevolent civility if we're in control, fucking dunce
>>67707094
Has this not been posted yet?
>>67714070
You're not entitled to other people's shit.
It's not a hard concept to grasp, just stop thinking like a nigger.
>>67713759
We've devolved to the point where the basic premise of people enjoying enormous success should be shielded from paying the same percentage of their gains back into society as the guy struggling at the bottom.
As your success grows, as the advantage of your free capital allows you to exploit opportunities for Greater profit that a guy feeding his children can't even imagine.....
...somehow you are also liberated from taxation, paying a smaller and smaller percentage of your take back into the system in which you flourished.
That is the great disconnect in Modern America.
Socialism and communism is a fraud, just look what is happening in Brazil RIGHT NOW. TURN ON THE NEWS.
>>67707094
You should teach your five year old to steal lunch money from the rich kids at school to make things more fair
>>67710329
Not financially as there would be no currency, but he can very well make a good standard of living for himself and that only he is entitled to, you retard.
>>67707094
Everyboy should share the body of our lord jesus crist.
Socialism is part of the reason why latin america is shit it doesn't work
>>67714542
Opaque crony Socialism is just as bad as opaque crony Capitalism, there is no doubt about that.
Any time the people can no longer see where the money is going, you are going to have people exploiting the shit out it, in any system.
That's just basic corruption, whether it's in Beijing or Wall Street.
Is there a name for a system that forces you to invest all your earnings after a certain cap?
Lets say after you reach 15 million $ of personal profit (not company profits), you have to invest your earnings that resides above the cap in something (any business or industry really,) so you dont get to hoard billions of dollars and still live a luxury lifestyle.
>>67714876
>so you dont get to hoard billions of dollars and still live a luxury lifestyle.
You can't live a luxury lifestyle on $15 million annually?
>>67708410
Kansas City
>>67714991
I meant still be able to live a luxury lifestyle, my bad.
>>67714665
People will invade our senade right now. That's Socialism for you, they created this situation.
It's a shit system that doesn't work, we are trying to destroy it.
>>67714416
Doesn't mean we can't forcibly take it and regularize it through government as just another part of life like we've already been doing for fucking hundreds of years but in an ineffective way that stacks the cards purely against the people that actually need help.
>>67707094
if a 5yo agreed with me on something so complicated i would strongly reconsider my views not take pride in my views
>>67714851
Socialism is flawed because of human nature
It makes people dependent on the government. Money is power, and if the government directly controls the flow of money they directly control the people. All it takes is one tyrant to seize power over that stem, and they people cant fight back on their own because without the government, they die.
>>67715110
Can you guys take all our transplants? Either KS or MO.
t. Denver
>>67714345
Theft is deprivation of property, but the rules of property depend on the societal context. If a society rejects the concept of property, then you would be in violation of the rules of that society by claiming property.
>Why shouldn't the people who are trying to extort me leave me alone?
Why should you be exempt from the rules of a society?
If you really want to be left alone, you will need to move away from the societies that you don't wish to be a part of, and not engage with them.
>>67708085
hahahahaha
>>67711303
you wouldn't even get halfway through that thing before it became flat as a pancake
>>67715334
"The rich should share" isn't complicated. OP inserted whatever other beliefs you're assuming here.
>>67707094
This thread is also about Brexit now.
You don't mind sharing do you OP?!
Of course you don't.
OK so give me 3 reasons why you are voting stay or leave.
>>67715547
>the rules of property depend on societal context
See, I don't hold that to be true. I think property is an objective fact established by God.
Why should "the rules of society" trump the precedent and commands of God?
>you will need to move away from the societies that you don't wish to be a part of
*Or* THEY can leave. That's also a thing. If you don't like me, leave. Why is me leaving more reasonable than you leaving?
>>67713759
>who just want to sit on it
This is the only real problem, for some rich people their money isn't circulating throughout the economy. The money isn't going towards jobs, products or whatever.
I have no problem with someone who owns 20 houses, 5 jets (including one personal fighter jet), a submarine for shits and giggles, and employs half an army since their money is going towards peoples wages. When it's money hoarding for the sake of money hoarding then there's a problem, spend the god damn money (not all of it mind you, having a safety net is important).
You're the men in this scenario.
The boy is the women.
Do you share what you've done with the women /pol/?
Person 1: Makes $100K a year; lives modestly; saves $25K each year. After 40 years in the workforce, has a nest egg of $1M. Votes for Trump.
Person 2: Makes $100K a year, spends recklessly, saves almost nothing. Broke after 40 years. Blames the wealthy for their financial problems. Votes for Bernie.
5 year olds also think it's OK to steal as long as you don't get caught. Just because they understand it doesn't mean it's morally sound.
>>67715919
Why spend it when you can hoard it all and give out scraps to people willing to sculpt the face of an entire country's politics and become the de facto ruler?
>should
and there's the problem
>>67715897
>Why should "the rules of society" trump the precedent and commands of God?
Why should society change to reflect your belief system?
>*Or* THEY can leave. That's also a thing. If you don't like me, leave. Why is me leaving more reasonable than you leaving?
I didn't say it was reasonable or unreasonable. What it is, though, is realistic. What do you think the chances are of getting everyone else to leave because you don't like the way things are?
>>67716045
>please accept my ridiculous assertion
>pleeeeaaaaase
>>67714489
>from paying the same percentage of their gains back into society as the guy struggling at the bottom.
Yeah, it's sad isn't it?
The guy strugging at the bottom contributes nothing in taxes while he smokes weed all day. In fact, he receives money from the government.
The guy at the top is forced to pay an extremely high percentage of his earnings. It's not the same percentage as the average taxpayer, it's more. He already pays more by default since 18% of 10 million is a lot more than 18% of 30,000 but the current system goes beyond that, they are forced to give up >50% of their earnings in taxes.
>>67707094
So why doesn't that kid give 70% of his toys to kids who don't have them?
>>67707094
The five-year-old does not understand the futility of regulating and legislating morality. You're a whiny child, OP. If you want it so bad, pull a Robin Hood. Otherwise, stop making "aussie" synonymous with "pussy."
>>67716045
>Votes for Bernie.
Is Bernie.
>>67716263
Why should I change to reflect society's belief system? The burden is on *you* to establish why you get to employ violence against me by almost anyone's moral standard.
>realistic
No, I think it's highly unrealistic that there's some sort of magic in your standards that bestows upon them moral authority that justifies fucking people over for simply existing in some arbitrary proximity to you.
I don't care what the chances are when your argument for why it should be the case is non-existant.
>>67707094
Earn your keep, and don't say "X number are unable to get it."
For those can't due to some physical disability, assistance programs are perfectly sound as a suggestion. But for those who are able, a dole is the most ridiculous thing out there.
>>67716344
>>67716427
Both of you should fuck each other in your shit-stained assholes.
>>67716582
Bernie live on welfare til he was 40 tho.
>>67707094
Only people who stand to gain a significant amount would hold this position
a child would stand to gain a lot from sharing.
>>67707094
The story of the ant:
>The ant works hard all summer gathering food
>The grasshopper sits on the porch drinking 40s all day
>Winter comes
>The grasshopper shows up at the anthill, demanding gibs
>Ant tells him "GET OFF MY LAWN"
>Grasshopper Lives Matter and Al Sharpton show up to protest
>Obama passes an equal insect law, evicts the ant, and gives the anthill to the grasshopper
>The ant leaves and is never seen again
>The grasshopper calls his homies, and they sit around eating the food in the anthill until it's all gone and the anthill crumbles due to lack of maintenance
>>67716617
Only shit-stained thing here is your post famclam
>>67716712
Yeah but then he got a 6 figure job, is worth basically nothing and blames rich people for the worlds problems despite the fact that it's easily arguable that rich people are actually beneficial for the poor.
>>67716617
25 increasingly angry posts from an Aussie! Keep it up boys, he's close to snapping.
>>67716712
source please.
>>67716809
More realistic version
>ant is born into wealth and inherits a massive anthill, 2000% bigger than he needs
>grasshopper born poor, works 20 hours a day and is still hungry and unable to feed his pham
>grasshopper steals some of the ants 2000% excess food
>ant shoots grasshopper
>Grasshopper Lives Matter and Al Sharpton show up to protest
>nothing much changes
>>67717032
>grasshoppers
>working
>caring for their families
Okay, buddy.
>>67717032
This isn't happening in America. The actually rich are untouchable and the grasshoppers (aka niggers) just end up stealing from each other and the middle class.
>>67708383
Powerman is cool. He hangs with hippies and is flexible.
>>67716585
>Why should I change to reflect society's belief system?
Pragmatically, you either obey the rules, or suffer the consequences.
>The burden is on *you* to establish why you get to employ violence against me by almost anyone's moral standard.
A society agrees on a set of rules. People who violate those rules can expect to suffer the consequences, which may include violence.
>No, I think it's highly unrealistic that there's some sort of magic in your standards that bestows upon them moral authority that justifies fucking people over for simply existing in some arbitrary proximity to you.
There's no magic. It's a bunch of people getting together and deciding what rules they're going to live by. There doesn't need to be a "moral authority" for it (but moral arguments can, and are, made for certain rules).
>>67716013
The female thought process boggles my mind.
The very first thing I imagine any of us would do is decide what needs to be done and get to work. Not even out of necessity but because we would be bored otherwise with nothing to keep ourselves busy. Creating something and enjoying the fruits of your labor is incredibly satisfying. Women are the opposite, they're perfectly content sitting around doing nothing and they have no drive whatsoever.
>>67707094
This is why we need to nuke Australia.
>>67707094
He thinks the kid made the sign.
>>67707094
This kid seems a bit old to be in a stroller.
>>67717212
More proof that OP is correct and rich need to be taxed and wealth redistributed.
>>67707094
My kid needs a kidney that kid should share his
>>67707435
Well look at Trump's father. Started with nothing and built an empire.
Then look at Trump, he was loaned 1,000,000 (which he had to pay back) and expanded that empire.
These are example of men who broke their backs to make their fortune. You're not entitled to it and neither am I.
Take responsibility for your own financial situation. My mother fucked me over by putting credit cards and bills in my name, ruining my credit. You don't see me bitching. Work your ass off and make something of yourself despite the cards life has dealt you.
this is leftist thinking.
to better understand what they think and why they do what they do look here and learn.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262160/mind-left-insider-michael-faraday
>>67716617
No. Project your deranged fantasy in another board. Stay the fuck outta /pol/ and stay the fuck outta /k/ you degenerate sopping rag of diseased abo douche.
>>67717008
Its a meme here on /pol/. You would know that if you browsed here instead of reddit.
>>67717436
You want wealth redistribution? Go to Canada or Russia.
>>67717297
You can do whatever you want. But if you don't have a coherent argument as to why or can't make your reasoning stand out as being of a higher caliber then you're a dribbling retard.
Who is "society"? How many people makes a "society", and what percentage of them have to agree? *How* do they agree? Certainly it's not explicitly, since virtually no one does that. So by what method is someone's "agreement" a thing?
See, I don't honestly care what you do to me except insofar as I expect you to be judged for the evils you commit by a righteous God. So the way I see it, almost all of you are fucked. And you don't have a real good reason for fucking yourselves over.
>>67717623
where I browse is not relevent you are committing ad hominen
>>67717436
thx for acknowledging the purpose of my post you dork
>>67707094
Sharing is voluntary.
>>67717801
>dork
Have not heard in decades, pham.
>>67717552
>despite the credit cards life has dealt you
;^)
>>67707094
I actually don't have a problem with the extremely rich being taxes within reason. But OP, they already do pay a lot of taxes. Real estate tax, restaurant tax, sales tax, general property tax. Stock trading also involves a lot of taxes.
See, if you tax the rich too much, they will simply leave kr hide their money. Most of them do not give a flying fuck about national loyalty or you as an individual.
What I have a problem with is the middle class being taxed into oblivion in order to fund the parasitic underclass and elites (gubmint officials).
First income tax was proposes to the people as a 7% tax that only applied to the very wealthy. We see what that led to.
>>67707094
This kid gets it, if the millionares and billionares just paid thier fair share then there would be not more problems in society. Just donated $20 to bernie will anyone match me?
>>67707094
Because fucking capitalism. love to see australia try to make communism happen. you're in the perfect region for it.
>>67717788
Oh it is very relevant. How else are we supposed to make fun of you?
>ad hominen
wew lad
It's like you think we care more about rational discussion than we do keks or something
>>67717948
thx for telling me i'm original you dweeb
That little boys family is richer than somebody. he should share too.
