Was he a good President?
>>67705243
Explain.
>>67705210
Average. Better than obama
>>67705434
What did he do good?
>>67705319
He's the reason Obama was elected.
better than obongo
other than doing 9/11 he was ok
he did a really good job in his first term desu
other than doing 9/11
No. Invading Iraq was probably second only to Vietnam on the fuckup-o-meter.
No child left behind was a fucking disaster
And besides those two things, he did nothing of note.
So no, he was shit awful. At least Obamacare helped SOME people.
>>67705210
Name one thing Bush did that benefitted America in the long term.
>>67705575
What did he do good?
>>67705210
Best president since Nixon
And Nixon was the second best president of the 20th century(Coolidge is numero uno)
>>67705732
No Child Left Behind which made it so tests were standardized
The only reason the economy sucked under him was because of something Clinton did in the 90s.
>>67705595
Invading Iraq was great. the OCCUPATION after it failed.
Ever read Hitchens? I guess he uses words that are too hard for your rednecks' brains.
>>67705867
I like Nixon and Coolidge but what did Bush do? From what I understand he got us into war, increased Federal Spending, boomed the deficit, caused the recession, and took away freedom.
>>67705319
Fucked up Iraq
Fucked up 9/11
Introduced massive surveillance state
Wasted conservative momentum/majority in Washington and did fuck all
Let beaners come across in droves
Google it if you need more nigger
>>67705945
>Invading Iraq was great.
Why, Exactly? Because Saddam was a bad man?
As soon as he was gone there was a power vacuum. If we left after we invaded we'd have ISIS in 2005.
Kinda
>>67706240
From what I understand he caused the recession.
he was president during one of the toughest 8 years as a country
>>67705595
>Invading Iraq
How retarded are you? That went through both the congress and senate with almost unanimous decisions in both. Saying it's his fault we went there is like saying Tim Cook is the reason Apple has gone to shit
>No child left behind was a fucking disaster
Yet again not his initiative just something he got behind(and it's actually a good program it was just implemented by pieces of shit since state government education officials are the biggest dirtbags in all of politics) It's basically like FEMA, great idea but executed poorly due to flat out ignorance and terrible preparation as well as implementation.
>And besides those two things, he did nothing of note.
You're an idiot and most likely a child who didn't even have a job under his presidency
>>67706294
The president has absolutely diddly fuck all with economic policy like the kind that caused the recession.
I wish people would stop fucking saying this.
>>67706526
Then what causes recession. If it just happens by it self then our economic system is flawed.
>>67706308
Stalin was Premier during the hardest years of the Soviet Union, too. He kept the nation running even as millions perished. Pretty admirable t b h
>>67706634
Corruption in the regulating agencies basically
Watch the big short
>>67705210
Nope. His poor management let the 911 attacks succeed. He raised the cost of senior drug coverage to a point that he destroyed the budget. He pretended to be interested in stopping terrorist, as an excuse to attract a completely unconnected nation, with consequences we are still dealing with.
>>67705210
He kept America safe on 9/11, sent 5,000 American soldiers to their deaths in Iraq, squandered trillions in foreign wars, turned a $263 BILLION budget surplus into a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit, doubled the national debt, crashed the US economy and left America on its knees so yeah... Republicans naturally love him and think he was great. Same with /pol/
>>67705210
No, but it's easy to make that mistake after 8 years of Obama.
>>67706496
Can you name some of his accomplishments in domestic and economic policy?
>>67705945
Do you not understand basic history? Once Sadddam Hussein and his Ba'ath goat fucker friends were put out of power, it crashed. It wasn't occupation. we literally went in and arrested their entire fucking government and then got surprised when shit went all to hell.
"Go home Iraqi soldier, with your AK-47 and your job in times of economic distress in your country"
And then get surprised when Al-Qaeda promises them $500 to kill a USA soldier and they do it? I don't even know how people are so fucktarded to believe anything about the Iraq War was a smart thing.
>>67705210
no. he did not protect the nation from the great mexican invasion of the 2000s.
>>67706702
If that's what caused it then how come every 7 years since 1913 we've had a recession and every 7 years before then we had a bank panic.
>>67705595
No child left behind was a shit ton better than common core.
>>67705210
You don't have to agree 100% with his policies.
A president that everyone loves or even just agrees with is pretty much impossible.
But, regardless of how to feel about him and his legacy, the man was a goddamned patriot. He loves his country.
>>67706723
9/11 was honestly more Clinton's baby than anyone else. Dubya just had the misfortune of just settling into the office when it finally happened. Watch Path to 9/11...if you can find it. Billary did their damnedest to shut it down.
>>67705210
Not good but very underrated.
>>67706496
>How retarded are you? That went through both the congress and senate with almost unanimous decisions in both.
Because the bush admin. made a "whoopsie!" and claimed that Iraq ABSOLUTEY had WMDs.
>Yet again not his initiative just something he got behind(and it's actually a good program it was just implemented by pieces of shit since state government education officials are the biggest dirtbags in all of politics) It's basically like FEMA, great idea but executed poorly due to flat out ignorance and terrible preparation as well as implementation.
I can literally copypaste that excuse and use it for Obamacare.
>You're an idiot and most likely a child who didn't even have a job under his presidency
And you're a retard who probably still voted for him in 2004 when it was clear how awful he was.
>>67707056
I don't see that. I see it as he sold out his country in exchange for bribes from oil companies. He also passed the patriot act which violated the constitution and did waterboarding which violates the constitution.
>>67707112
Republicans can't be trusted with national security. They're basically inept at keeping the country safe. They admit that they can't keep America safe and that when a terrorist attack happens on their watch, it's the Democrats fault.
>>67706496
>How retarded are you? That went through both the congress and senate with almost unanimous decisions in both.
60% of democrats say nay, only 2% of Republicans said no. Pretty sure the Iraq War wouldn't have happened if Bush pulled his political muscle instead of 24/7 bitching on the TV about how bad mudslimes are and how we should invade Iraq.
>>67706496
BUSH DINDU NUFFIN!
He had a Republican Congress for 6 out of 8 years but he DINDU NUFFIN!
>muh personal responsibility
Fucking conservatards man
>>67707254
Cmon Al Gore would have totally invaded Iraq... lel
What is it with right wingers?
Why don't they ever take responsibility for their fuckups?
>>67707047
What's wrong with common core, senpai?
>>67707112
Bush cancelled the measures Clinton had in place that targeted Bin Laden. Bush literally just found the meetings boring.
Phonie neocon
>>67707214
At least the families of the 9/11 hijackers and the moneymen funding it were punished harshly, right?
RIGHT?
>>67707766
Honestly I don't know about 9/11 anymore. I don't know who to believe so I'm just taking a look at what else he did.
>>67707522
It teaches evolution.
>>67707522
muh
>"everyone is born equal and anyone can achieve greatness. IQ is a social construct."
>>67707766
"Bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.” Capturing bin Laden is“not a top priority use of American resources.” George Bush 2006 to Fred Barnes of the Weekly Standard.
>>67705748
the only good thing he did was letting the assault weapon ban expire. that was based the rest was shit.
No, and if you think otherwise you are a cuckservtive.
he appointed stupid judges, his foreign policy was terrible, he also ran up trillions in new debt while complaing about the other side of the alse being big spenders, messed up in iraq, messed up Hurricane Katrina, his policys on women was retarded, let companies poison the water table,
took the world from loving us to hating us, lets not forget waterboarding INNOCENTS, black bagging people into secret CIA prisons. torture has never been a reliable way to get true information.
he dismissed seven U.S. attorneys, undermining the integrity of the Department of Justice and the non-partisan tradition of U.S. Attorneys. took away widely excepted consumer protections going back 35 years. And did those companies create new jobs with their newfound freedom? no they pocketed the money and poisoned more people while the economy clopassed
>>67707056
tool
Worst in my lifetime. He's the reason nobody voted for jeb.
>>67707047
the problem with no child left behind was it was unfunded and pointless.
>>67708109
In all fairness he was probably right.
>>67707886
>9/11
>No biggie
>>67705210
No.
Foreign Pol? Going into Iraq was a disaster once were where their we should have taken the oil. The war laid the groundwork for Obama
Domestic pol? Did not pass anything good, messed with education further, Tried to sell our ports to Muslims Tossed 15 billion at African AIDS to buy a legacy with our money, quickly forgotten by the Africans.
>>67708377
Crushing Bin Laden and his little cadre was the ONLY legitimate terrorist strategy.
Destabilizing two nations in the Middle East had the exact opposite effect. It was like a wasp has stung you, but rather than kill that wasp and get treatment, you start banging on a beehive in some other guy's yard.
>>67705942
>No Child Left Behind
I see the results here every day. They are far from impressive.
>because of something Clinton did in the 90s.
Something you couldn't quite put your finger on, but definitely Clinton's fault.
>>67708403
It's very big but I can't tell who's telling the truth about it.
>>67705210
No he fucking sucked.
Did great things for punk though.
>>67705434
no, he was bad not average but he was better than obongo
>>67705210
No. Both he and Obama were terrible
>>67705434
>>67705575
>Better than obama
Bush was the catalyst for the destabilization of the middle east that led to ISIS and the migrant crisis. Sure there are deeper roots going back to at least the toppling of the secualar Iran government several decades ago, but invading Iraq and giving sociopathic muslims the idea they can just take over after the west gets rid of their dictators really was the last straw.
>>67707112
>Clinton made Bush invade Iraq
>>67708649
Planes with Saudi Nationals who went to Royal family-funded extremist schools took a Saudi-funded vacation in the USA to learn to fly (but not land) planes and then were aboard them when the crashed into NY and Washington.
Definitely Jews.
>>67706496
>that went through both the congress and senate with almost unanimous decisions in both.
lol, wat? don't pretend that wasn't due to heavy propaganda and outright lies about intell on WMDs, where did they intell come from? From white house controlled departments.
and yes, they outright lied. If you read the interviews dick and ronsfeid have made sense, they make it very clear, they wern't themselves confused or anything, Bush just wanted to go after Saddam to "out do daddy". biggest fuck out sense Vietnam, isis anyone? Saddam hated terroists,
but even without the iraq war, his domestic policy was terrible.
>>67708621
Sure. It's not Clinton fault. But someone on /pol/ told me the economic policies of a President usually occur after they leave office.
>>67708892
To be fair, Obama pulled out early, though going there in the first place was a bigger mistake
>>67709056
>But someone on /pol/ told me
Please go read a book
>>67709123
I did and read some right wing books. It makes sense to me that cutting spending and taxation would be good for the economy.
But then Bill Clinton who spends like a mad man somehow decreases the debt. It makes no sense to me.
>>67709097
>To be fair, Obama pulled out early,
Yeah, could he not wait for 2047? It's almost like he ran a campaign on promises to pull out of a long conflict or some crazy shit and got elected.
>>67709274
>Obama pulled out early,
That's what she said.
>>67708892
lmfao
>the catalyst of the destabilization of the middle east
they've been destabilizing eachother since literally the dawn of civilization m8
>>67709266
>It makes sense to me that cutting spending and taxation would be good for the economy.
Reducing the movement of capital in an economy is never good, and reducing Federal taxes either causes the local governments to raise them to keep the infrastructure and it's systems running, or causes them to fall apart.
Republicans have never been about giving breaks to working stiffs. Maybe you should try books that don't have an ideology stamped on the cover.
>>67709056
Everyone knows that when Bush cuts taxes for the rich, they only get those tax cuts when the NEXT president enters office.
Likewise, when Obama passed Obamacare, Americans only start getting Obamacare when the NEXT president comes into office.
When minimum wage goes up, it doesn't go up until the next president enters office.
>But someone on /pol/ told me
There's a lot of retards on /pol/
>>67709097
Yes if we stayed maybe things wouldn't be as chaotic, but when the hell would we leave? The US can't be the one trying to solve the world's problems with everyone else (particularly the rest of NATO and our middle eastern "allies") taking the back seat, it's not sustainable. Furthermore it seems like the longer the US stays in the middle east, the more upset people there get, which just boosts recruitment for terrorist cells.
>>67709503
>they've been destabilizing eachother since literally the dawn of civilization m8
Yes and amazingly that never involved blowing shit up in the West, until the West started piling up troops and propping up local asshats.
>>67705210
He's the worst president in American history.
>>67709545
I read books with an open mind. You just read books stamped with left wing ideas on them.
>>67709722
>but when the hell would we leave?
About the same time frame we left South Korea. Except the South Koreans don't put bombs in the roads or snipe at us.
>>67709850
co wiesz o nasza panstwo?
>>67705210
No
but he was 10x better than the nigger community-organizer in chief we have now
>>67709503
I'm focusing more on the modern issues, not the arab conquests of the iberian peninsula
>>67709876
>I read books with an open mind. You just read books stamped with left wing ideas on them.
You have no idea what I read, you readily admitted to reading Right Wing ideology here
>>67709266
That doesn't make me an ideologue, buddy.
Sometimes the truth is non-partisan.
>>67709603
It takes 7 years for the boom and bust cycle to complete
>economic policies reach their full potential instantly
you sound like the retarded one.
>>67710021
No he wasn't. Why? Iraq.
If I had to decide between him and Obama I would pick obama without thinking about it.
>>67710069
I read Ayn Rand and Fredrick Hayek. It's truth
>>67710069
Then why are you being partisan to the left?
>>67709929
W pierdol sie
>>67710315
>I read Ayn Rand and Fredrick Hayek. It's truth
>mfw
>>67709266
>cutting spending and taxation
>good for the economy.
eh.
several things here.
First every time they have tried that it didn't work
2. companies just tend to pocket the money and have their value go up, not actully make new factories or jobs.
3. In any economy the government is the biggest spender.
4. The problem with all above is economics don't turn on a dime, and you have to go back 8-15 years (longer then 2 POTUS administrations) to really see the effect of polices.
The whole 15% flat tax equals tons of growth is a fairy tail. Business types do business regardless of the tax rate.
>>67710094
That's funny. There wasn't 1 recession during the 8 year Clinton presidency.
I guess your little bullshit theory just got btfo.
>>67709886
>About the same time frame we left South Korea
So, never?
>Except the South Koreans don't put bombs in the roads or snipe at us.
Exactly! It's a lot better having a military base in a country that actually wants you there act as deterrence against a country that has nukes and is constantly threatening to use them. Also nice being in a country where the people aren't committing jihad against you.
>>67710438
>thinks anything but objectivism is truth
HAHAHAHAHAH
>>67710449
It worked every time except for Reagan.
>>67710449
Supply side and Austerity are the Big Lies that gutted the middle class but allowed for 300' mega-yachts.
And yet there are some true believers still hanging on out there. Trump should put them on the other side of the wall in Libertarian Paradise Mexico.
>>67705595
America had to invade Iraq to boost the petro dollar. It's the only reason we have a functioning economy right now.
>>67710483
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
But why is /pol/ becoming so left wing now a days?
>>67710738
>a few left wing posts among a sea of conservative ones
>WE ARE BEING OVERRUN
>>67710712
Keynesianism and taxes on the rich is why we have poverty, have harmful diseases, and why Africa is starving
Why don't they go to Africa is they like keynesianism so much
"Some day I'll be the state, but for now I have to suck the States dick" - Keynesians.
>>67710094
>>67710315
>>67710596
>>67710631
Ok, I'm posting this as seriously as I can
>>67710975
>taxes on the rich is why we have poverty
Trolling it is then.
>>67710631
please give examples of times cuts in the corporate tax rate led to faster growth?
>>67711101
>tax cuts gutted the middle class
You're not even an amusing troll.
>>67711101
Poverty exists because of minimum wage, welfare, and market control (heavy regulations, expensive licensing tests, high markup costs, etc.)
>>67705210
College was much less expensive,and mudslimes were universally hated in the US during his presidency.
Those are the only two good things I can think of.
>>67708892
The sunni and shite conflict was something long in the woodworks regardless of the actions of the USA, all we can do is help or hurt another side, which obviously means nothing when your dealing with cave dwelling slimes
>>67711273
Calvin Coolridges time in office.
>>67711000
I was thinking you may just be stupid, but now I know you're trolling
>>67705210
He needs to be arrested for mass murder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5YgJx8VGRA
>>67710975
protip: we don't actully follow Keynesian.
Keynesian says you lower interest rates in recessions, BUT THEN during the boom times you raise interest to pay for the debt incurred bringing yourself out of recession..
The problem is during the boom times their is no political will to slow the economy. Keynesian is politically unworkable.
>>67705942
It was mortgage bonds start under ragean.
Bush SR new kill Hussain would not solve shut so he let him live.Jr. fucked up killed him and unleash mudskins
>>67711781
Why can't the money be printed during recessions instead of borrowed? You could say inflation but any increase in the money supply would cause inflation even if it's from borrowing.
>>67711506
>Calvin Coolridge
He also at the same time cut spending and retired 1.4 of the government debt.
Too bad it removing federal taxes on everyone but the top 2% led to the stock market bubble and the great depression and the collapse of the world economy, which lead to German government being taken over and ww2
>>67712390
The Federal Reserve printing of money caused the crash.
>>67707477
>40% of dems
Lel
>>67711961
Bush Sr remembered the lesson of Vietnam, Bush jr did not.
>>67712735
low information first time stock owners drove the bubble imo, people who couldn't afford to lose it.
>>67713034
It wasn't Calvin Coolidge tho.
![Bush-PartD[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TAJwAI7.jpg "Bush-PartD[1].jpg")
>>67705210
No, obviously, he was a huge fucking failure.
Aside from the other failures mentioned thus far, how about Medicare D, the insane prescription-drug benefit program for seniors WITH NO FUCKING COST CONTROLS ON IT. I'm not kidding - the Medicare program isn't allowed to negotiate better drug prices. It pays the list price. Which is of course a ripoff in most cases.
Thanks for that one, Shrub. Really helps our budget situation.
>>67707477
the thing is invading Afghanistan was more then enough. in fact Bush only point 10% of the military into Afghanistan AGAINST the advice of the military, everyone wondered what the heck he was doing, it became clear later he was saving them for his Iraq adventure.
I can't help what would have happened if we really committed to securing Afghanistan.
>>67709028
There wasn't anything "almost unanimous" about the Iraq war vote. A majority of congressional Democrats actually voted AGAINST it, along with a half-dozen Republicans.
http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
He was the face of American Unjust War,
and made most of the free world angry at your country.
You will be feeling the repercussions of his presidency for decades, for crimes you didn't personally commit.
Nepotism in politics. Brilliant.
>>67705945
Invading iraq qas a mistake.
t. increasingly deployed man for the fifth time
>>67705210
this guy fucked EVERYTHING
then obama comes in and tries to fix things in the most STUPID WAY
i hope trump can fix the problem but it may be too late
well he did do 9/11 so there that
>>67713310
I probably wouldn't be here right now if that fucko had focused on Afghanistan instead of wasting time destabilizing Iraq.
>>67713760
Yet you supported him and voted for him at the time.
>>67705210
He killed a lot of sand niggers...
>>67713884
RARE
Also thanks for serving even if its a shitty beat.
>>67715748
You're welcome pal.
No he wasn't good by any stretch of the word. However at least he didn't hate this county and try to tear it down and rebuild into a progressive utopia.
>>67716614
This. 100 percent. He led the USA into a meaningless war against a secular government, while pretending to be fighting terrorism. However, at least there were still morals in this country under his presidency. Abstinence was taught in the classrooms. Interracial relationships were still taboo. I don't think the world will ever recover post-Obama and post-Kardashian/ Caitlyn Jenner. They are teaching kids in public schools about homosexuality now, despite the fact that the CDC estimates 1 out of 5 gay men have HIV.
>>67705210
No, he's the reason we got Obama.
>>67705210
NO! thread
