Please redpill me on these fuckers. I live near a community and it's weird to drive through there. Pic unrelated
>>67703981
They are culty as fuck and are very judgemental and free-thinkers and people who dont conform to halachah are made into social pariahs. They tell their children not to marry people who grew up secular or less frum or not chassidic.
Unfortunately, they are a valid expression of Judaism.
>>67703981
Cats are okay.
You just have to accept that you are the pet if you get one. Moody, want to play when you want to sleep even if they sleep 18 hours a day, don't need to get outside if your appartment is big enough, don't forget to feed them.
Well, don't know. They are okay.
And i don't even know what Hasidic Jews are. We missed a few :(
>>67703981
What city/state are you in btw? I can red pill you more if I know where you are at.
Oh btw wife swapping is a thing in *every* frum community, especially among the young.
>>67705159
I live near Tom's River NJ, its a fucking invasion here. These curly greasy kikes are coming in hordes buying up homes.
>>67705381
Btdubs, did you know that if a Jewish woman cheats on her husband, she is forbidden to her husband AND the man she committed adulatory with.
Reminder it is a mitzvah to pray that the heretics die immediately. (|:^)
>>67705479
Yeah, the NJ communties are as main-stream Judaism as you can get.
The frumme Yuden are so insufferable and they hold so much control over me. I only stick by them because I know the Torah is the truth. If not, you have to be totally insane to do this.
>>67703981
Literally Jared Fogles
they're pretty dumb and lazy. we don't like them here. but at least they're not liberals.
>>67705828
Do you believe in the 6million? The Sephirot and missing 6 sort of says it will happen even though we know it didn't happen.
>>67706058
Good to note here that American Charadim have a totally different lifestyle from Israeli Charadim
>>67706287
6 million is accurate number.
Yeah dont know what youre talking about. I dont learn about sefiros or Kabbalah
>>67706288
that's probably true. in israel they live on gibs, don't serve in the IDF, and generally want to force their bullshit cult on everyone else. in the US they are such a negligible minority that they probably don't matter at all. there has been a change for the best in recent years, though. many of them are starting to see themselves as israelis and open up to society. still a long way to go, though.
>>67706427
Do you agree with Abraham Kook when he says "The difference between the souls of jews and the souls of non-jews is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle." - Messiah's Donkey
As well as "The best of Gentiles should be killed just as the best of snakes should have their heads crushed."
>>67706958
Aren't they having 6-7 children per woman, though? At least the Haredim. Won't they become the normal Israeli, while more seculars will become the minority?
I had a Reform Jew friend who said he disliked Netanyahu and wanted to vote for Zionist Union, but it looks like the liberals are going to leave and the high birth rates of the Orthodox are going to make it a permanent right-wing state.
>>67707285
the liberals are going to leave israel in the same way the liberals are going to leave the US when trump is elected - they won't.
as for the hardeim numbers, i'm not worried about it at all, in fact i think it's a good thing. the world is going through secularization process and israel is no different. many of them are leaving religion altogether. they will never be the majority of even close to that. their large amount of kids is great for our demographics, it's a necessary evil.
>>67707285
and by the way they are more aligned with the left than the right. they want socialism for the gibs. that's all they care about.
your cuck friend was probably talking about the religious settlers, that's a whole other story.
>>67703981
Rockland county?
>>67708080
Wouldn't you want the settlers to remove kebab so your people have more land? Not even saying it is a moral wrong, as from a race-relative stand point it is ambiguous
>>67708080
Also 50% ashkenazim, raised without religion, aside from a few hannukahs. Should I move to Israel?
>>67708350
>>67708459
/pol/ memes aside the vast majority of israelis don't even care about land. most of israel isn't settled. hell there's hardly anything outside of tel aviv. we got all the land we need.
the only reason why we're still holding parts of the west bank is so that it doesn't turn into a 2nd gaza where they launch rockets and shit repeatedly. but we'll leave them alone to kill eachother eventually. do you honestly believe we want to rule over millions of hostile mudshits? fuck em and fuck their shitty land, we don't want that fucking wasteland.
i like the settlers because they are very right wing and they're hard working people. they consider all jews as brothers. on the other hand the haredim will not consider you a jew if you're not part of their particular branch of some very specific community.
most israelis are raised pretty much without religion including myself. if i were you i'd come visit before deciding anything
>>67707059
I dont consider Rav Kook to be real Judaism, but that is actually based on sefer ha'Kuzari (Written about 800 years ago) that says there are 4 levels on the life hierarchy and humans are at the top, but there is actually a 5th level and that is the level of "Klal Yisrael," when you have a soul that is obligated in the 613 mitzvot.
That other quote, I would have to see where it says that.
>>67707059
Whenever Judaism trashes goyim, its talking about idol worshippers/atheists. The Talmud calls goyim "akum" which is an acronym for "idol-worshipper" in the vernacular.
>>67709717
>>67709160
How difficult is Hebrew? What are the chances of me learning it then moving then still being lost in translation between Ladino, Yiddish, Russian, Juhuri, and/or Arabic? Is it advisable that I learn any of those languages as well? Should I read through the Talmud at all?
>>67707285
Ding ding ding
And dont forget that in Israel there is a return to tradition among the chilonim.
>>67709717
Are christians and muslims considered idolators?
>>67708198
I live in Rockland County, I hate driving through fucking Monsey.
>>67710358
lmao what the hell
>Ladino
literally a dead language
>Yiddish
literally a dead language
>Russian
are you moving to russia?
>Juhuri
literally wat
>Arabic
for what purpose
>Should I read through the Talmud at all
i'm almost 30 and i'm not even sure i know what the talmud is, kek.
seriously man just learn hebrew. everyone speaks hebrew here. it's not that difficult, and you get free lessons when you move here.
you will have good enough hebrew in about 6 months probably. and everyone know english so it's not like you're unable to communicate
>>67710358
Its easy to learn how to read it, speaking is another thing. If you go to Israel, attend an ulpan program.
I reccomend learning Yiddish to get frum Jews to appreciate you. Also very good for business.
I recommend these books: http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Shmeezy-Guide-Yiddish-Moshe-Sherizen/dp/1614654506
http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Shmeezy-Guide-Hebrew-Moshe-Sherizen/dp/1614650667/ref=pd_sim_14_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1JWAJX1SXWPW3YWDGKHC
Also, speaking Hebrew makes American Charadim cringe, especially Hasidim. We speak "Yeshivish."
You retards who keep denying the saviours God sent after your prophets deserve to remain this way; successful and prosperous on Earth, only to be misled in the Afterlife due to your own negligence.
>>67709717
>>67709160
Additionally, I have half white, I have straight, brown hair with pale skin and blue eyes (Ashkenazi on my dad's side, all with lighter eyes), although I do have visibly Jewish features. Would I be accepted if I look white with a Jewish dad (and not mom)?
>>67710516 is
>>67707928 right about Israel going through secularization, or are they getting more religious? Judaism is a bit different that Christianity in that it is an ethno-religion, ethnic Jews are connected to the history of their people with Judaism, while most seculars don't give a shit about Christianity, even if their ancestors of 2000 years were Christian, so I feel that seculars would feel different and not outwardly hostile towards Judaism
>>67704951
damn bro haven't seen you in a while
>>67710516
no it's actually the other way around. in the diaspora jews feel like they need to "prove" their judaism by following tradition. in israel we say fuck it, we get stabbed and have rockets launched at us, that's jewish enough.
>>67710918
this guy is an idiot, no one speaks yiddish in israel unless you're like 80+ haredi. i've only heard americans speak yiddish, never heard it in israel in my life and i'm ashkenazi.
>>67710693
Its a halachich dispute whether or not Christians are idolators, so ask your local (non-chabad) orthodox Rabbi.
Everyone agrees that Moslems are not idolators and its permitted for a Jew to pray in a Mosque.
Also, the Talmud is written in Aramaic, not modern Ivrit. Goyim are forbidden to read the Talmud, and a newbie to Judaism should never just up and learn Talmud because its designed to have it explained to you by a Rav because its a book of riddles and parables.
>>67711088
What about the one million BTs in your country?
>>67710958
No, according to our din, you are a gentile.
>>67710958
Its becoming more frum, for sure. Dont listen to Itzik, he just jelly Im comfortable having long payos in America.
>>67703981
They originated in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth which at the time was kind of like modern America in that people took religion very seriously AND YET there was full religious tolerance so the weirdest fucking sects could appear and thrive.
And thus the Jewish Amish/Mormons were created.
The rest of us in the civilised world have usually had the good sense to be either apathetic and/or murderously intolerant at all times, preventing such disastrous development.
>>67710958
>Would I be accepted if I look white with a Jewish dad (and not mom)?
yes, according to the law you have full citizenship right, and of course "society" will accept you. we accepted the russians and they're like 50% jews at best. no one cares
>>67711563
Would you mind me moving in? Can still move under RoR laws. Would my goy genes upset the composition and trigger people?
>>67711834
If I wanted to learn the Talmud from a Rabbi, would I be declined for not being a Jew from my mother's side? How difficult would it be to learn? Also, didn't expect to be hated when you guys seem to already hate Mizrahi and want to expell them
>>67711999
m8 you're either trolling or fucking retarded
>>67708198
>>67710815
We need a /pol/ meet up! How bout gypsy donut in Nyack!!
>>67712159
Well
>>67711279
Said I am forbidden from reading it. I wouldn't want to burn in excrement for all eternity, now would I?
>>67703981
I respect them more than secular jews since they jew out 365 days of the year rather than just remembering the holocoaust when it is convenient for them
ACIDIC JEWS????????
>>67705479
North Jersey here. They're actually trying to solicit people out of their homes to make it more of an Orthodox Jewish community. They got the banhammer though.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/toms-river-among-towns-restricting-door-to-door-solicitation-amid-hasidic-influx-1.1516330
hasidic jews worship their rabbis, because the rabbis help them get laid.
You must have noticed by now that every hasidic jew is ugly as hell, so the only way they can get a woman is by keeping the jewish fantasy crap going for as long as possible. It's a big cult.
>>67711836
Only the very culty communties have a problem with outsiders moving in. The Hasidim/Charadim in L.A. are normal. Well, except Chabad and the baalei teshuvah.
>>67711836
Its forbidden for you to marry into the Jewish people unless you convert. Sorry bro. Its ok, being trapped in the frum community sucks. You should still learn Torah with Rabbis though. :)
>>67711999
Yeah, if you tell them your mother isn't Jewish, they will learn stuff with you that you are allowed to learn (Which is a lifetimes worth of information).
Talmud is extremely difficult to learn and to understand.
Mizrachim are the Israeli equivalent of modern orthodox. Those peoplke have a totally different lifestyle from the schools their kids get kicked out of cause they use internet, watch TV/movies etc.
>>67713067
What do you and other regular Orthojews think about Chabad? Heard they are like the worst, don't know anything about baalei teshuvah
>>67713166
Just tell them "My mother isnt Jewish, but my father is, and I want to learn everything is nogeah (applicable) to me and I want to give the mesorah (Torah tradition) over to my children."
There, if you say that, they will love you.
>>67713480
Chabad makes them cringe. We see the new generation of BTs as a heretical cult.
Please, explore this expertly sourced website for more knowledge regarding this dire issue: identifyingchabad.org
>>67713743
That still excludes some stuff though, right?
If I wanted to convert I still wouldn't be let into the cool kids club?
Out of all the Jews, approx. how many do you think are pure blooded back a thousand years (just a question, not really trying to undermine Judaism)
>>67713743
oops meant to type "I want to learn everything that is nogeah to me...."
Pronounced "no'gay'uh
Most of the modern Orthodox where I live keep to themselves and are generally mistrustful of outsiders. That being said, if you’re Jewish by blood they will definitely invite you to come to Friday services and I guess try to recruit you. They don’t try to recruit non-Jews which makes them considerably less annoying and dangerous than most other religions.
>>67713985
Well, I dont reccomend you convert but Im pretty sure they are required to make the conversion process easier for you if you are m'zera Yisroel. But still, I dont recommend, East coast frummies are weird.
>>67714260
Last question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2AUYa9dBx8
How mainstream is this position in Jewish communities?
>>67713985
Well, I know over 2000 years ago we accepted alot of converts, what with all the miracles that were happening for us daily, so we are all descended from converts, and also rape babies.
>>67703981
Hasidic jews?
What, are they neutralized by basic jews when mixed?
>>67714399
Yes, it does say in our sacred texts that Ishmaelites will take over in the end of days. It also says in Pirkei d'Rebbi Eliezer (a Midrash) that there will be a war between the Arabs and Rome in the end of days.
Also, Rome *could* mean Germany, because Rav Yaakov Emden (of blessed memory) wrote that the Germans are ethnic Amalekites......
>>67714727
Will the Arabs or Rome win the war?
>>67714875
They will destroy each other, and Hashem will "dance" on their graves.
Side with the frumme Yuden, and it will be good for you. (|:^)
>>67715001
Does that war extend to the US?
>>67715107
Well, actually the Talmud in tractate Avodah Zarah, in a cryptic Aggadic passage, says that Rome will still be around after the happening.
Does that mean American? I have no idea and you would need to have broad shoulders to utter such a thing.
>>67703981
You in New York?
>>67715107
See Ezekiel ch. 38-39 though. Bnei Noach are allowed to read Bible verses.
>>67715283
Where can I read about Jewish messianic beliefs?
I'm not saying this to be a parrot /pol/, but Hasidic Jews are without a doubt some of the worst fucking people I've ever met in my life.
There's a lot I could say about them but the main flaw is their fucking sense of entitlement like the world owes them something, and if you're not Jewish, they will look talk down to you and see you as a lesser, despite the fact that they're only around because we have to decency not to chuck those fuckers into ovens.
>>67715504
Ever hear of a town called kiryas Joel in New York?
>>67715502
Book of Isaiah is a good place to start. Moshiach is only mentioned a handful of times in the Talmud. Your local orthodox Rav can learn it with you though.
>>67705104
Based germanbro.
>>67712168
Nanuet here
>>67715656
No but I worked as a counselor for a summer camp in a little town called Forestburg on the border by NY/NJ, not far from the place you mentioned. The town was almost entirely filled with Hasidics and we had to have a special week at the camp just for them which was a fucking nightmare. And we didn't even get to gas any of them, we would just fuck with them in very subtle ways to get revenge.
>>67707059
>"The difference between the souls of jews and the souls of non-jews is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle." -
this
this is why you guys get so much god damn hate.
>>67716136
They are fucked. If you look it up kiryas Joel has like the highest percent of welfare for a town out of anywhere in the us and the fucking apartment buildings are gorgeous. They pool all their welfare gibs and let the local rabbi run shit. Like a cult
How do I get a jewish bf
Alternatively how do I get a Hasidic to hatefuck me
>>67716384
During "Jew" week at the camp we'd have to literally import a fucking dump truck of sand from Israel because they refused to pray on other "land", we had to rope off certain sections of the camp and had to change the entire menu's and just bullshit and bullshit task and they weren't the least bit grateful towards any of us.
Also, what the fuck is up with them and their fucking love for Honda Odysseys? Literally the only car I'd see for miles sometimes. And of course every little town they inhabited was a complete broken down and desolate shit hole.
Thank god I stopped working at that camp. Thankfull I live on the other side of the Hudson River so I don't have to deal with that shit.
>>67715851
Is homosexuality rampant in Tel-Aviv? How is homosexuality viewed in Israel as a whole? As an Orthodox how easy is it to evade the IDF draft? Is the settler movement about achieving Greater Israel or is it for more security like >>67709160
says? How many Orthodox actively want the rest of the land and how many are satisfied with Israel today? I doubt many are okay with a 2-state solution, diminishing inheritance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flfUvPyLVZI
