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Trump Rides The Wave of American Fascism
https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/708026845963227136
What does /pol/ think of this?
>>67695767
Who?
>>67695767
Go to bed Mohammed
>ron muslims are good boys paul
>>67695767
I though he died already
Populism and nationalism, definitely. I don't see how he's a "fascist" though.
>>67695767
Ron Paul may as well endorse Bernie already
>>67695767
What's he trying to say? FDR is fascist? Or Trump is FDR?
>>67695767
I think he's being a baby because his son lost.
it's a shame Bc I really like Ron Paul.
I wished he won. Damn what a great country we could've had
I understand how people like Ron Paul and Thomas Sowell can disagree with Trump on policy. Naturally they'll disagree with him, them being libertarians whilst Trump is more of a conservative/nationalist. It's the comparison to Hitler and fascism that annoys me. It's literally "Everyone I don't like is Hitler!"
>>67696166
Probably this. Rand would have had a good chance of winning if Trump didn't enter the race, he's probably annoyed at Trump due to that.
Populism makes you a fascist.
TOP KEK
>>67695767
Ron needs to go back to scaring old people with his infomercial.
>>67695767
>he compares trump to FDR
>"that'll show 'im"
I can longer tell if Ron Paul is a high-order troll or a low-information retard.
>>67695767
>you should deny your culture and heritage and let more muslims and mexicans in! We will surely experience liberty then!
Lolbertarians everyone.
Ron Paul is senile
>>67695767
Didn't Ron agree with what some of Trumps stuff?
>>67696350
Rand had 0 chance of winning. He lacks the charisma or brashness to demad media attention. Nobody would have paid attention.
>>67696077
lolbertarians like to claim that FDR was a fascist, which is funny because business leaders were planing a coup d'état to overthrow him
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Liberty_League
>>67695767
http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/trump-rides-the-wave-of-american-fascism
How about you link to the article and not the click bait headline which everyone here is responding to.
Ron Paul can't prevent this happening. Sad to say it but fuck off RP.
>>67695767
What's wrong with fascism?
/pol/ getting mad at Ron Paul being Ron Paul is weird to me because none of this should be a surprise if you actually have followed Ron Paul during the past 8 years vs. just blindly going "Ron Paul /b/ lol"
I'm all for Trump. So are many of Ron's buddies like Lew Rockwell and Walter Block. Ron however, as /pol/ should know, is very idealist and specific. I fully expect him to be anti-Trump much like he would be--and is--anti-Cruz, anti-Kasich, anti-Bernie and anti-Hillary. /pol/ doesn't bother showing all the shit he has said about the other candidates but gets buttmad because he doesn't like Trump either.
So what if he is? He's Cato warning about the loss of the Republic and Trump is Caesar. Ron Paul is being Ron Paul. Despite not being on the TrumpTrain, he is still high-energy enough to defend Trump against the retarded KKK accusation and the Chicago chimp out. He has even argued Trump might be better than Cruz on foreign policy and has refused to give Cruz an endorsement despite it being rumored that the Cruz camp has desperately sought it from him and his son.
stop sending me emails ron, I donated to you not your son.
libertarianism works for a few generations until the people you tolerate in society vote for socialism and communism. It's really that simple. People vote themselves entitlements
>be libertarian
>muh open borders
>import a bunch of spics who vote for socialism
>bye america
None of Trump's proposed policies is against what this idiot believes. He just hates Trump because he's a strong leader.
Trump wants to cut taxes.
Trump wants to reduce federal government by 1 trillion.
Trump want to make free trade both ways (not one way only)
Trump wants to decentralize education
Trump wants market-based healthcare
Trump wants to stay out of wars
Just what is his problem with Trump? Oh right, he's a strong leader! hurr fascism
Ron Paul is so last decade
>>67695767
Trump wants big government. You hear it in every single rally speech and debate he's in.
>>67696804
shut up cuckold. RuPaul is an old weasley loser who's pissed off he could never sucker anybody into voting for him. Can't wait til the bratty old fuck croaks.
>>67696684
Nice try fag, trump became the anti establishment candidate because he was more overt with his words and more well known around the country then Rand, if trump never joined then Rand would have been the anti establishment candidate which is what you need to be to win this election.
Is this the libertarian future you really want?
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/03/lawmakers_sick_after_drinking.html
>>67696979
>Trump wants big government.
wrong >>67696894
>>67695767
Some old guy is bootyblasted that him and his son weren't as popular as Trump.
>>67696804
People are disappointed he immediately went to 'he's a fascist' not that he opposes Trump.
Ron Paul is right,as he always is. But he just post this because Cruz offered Rand the VP position.
>>67696478
I think he is just between a rock and a hard place. Half his base likes Trump, the other half wants him to hate on Trump.
>>67695767
I'm done with Ron.
>>67697017
haha no, Cruz > Rand
>>67695767
>there are people who unironically considered voting for ron paul
/pol/ was wrong again!
>>67696120
It's either that or the Pauls are playing some really long game to fool the Neocons into thinking that Rand is their pal.
>>67696413
Heard that, nigga. I can usually overlook his bullshit and wonkery, but this anti-Trump stuff crosses the line.
Also I've been wondering if we do see a Trump Presidency, would we end up with Rand Paul being a major adversary? It seems possible to me, and would make me hate Rand even more. And I was totally in the tank for him 5 months ago.
Ron Paul and his cucked son let us down.
>>67695767
They could have prevented this, Ron. They could have listened. They didn't and now it's too late.
Now it's time for Trump.
Step aside. Let it happen.
>>67697011
> I don't follow Ron Paul I only see what people post on /pol/
The guy hardly even supported his own son until it was too late lol
>>67696804
A guy who wants to end all this Neocon intervention and audited the FED and Paul is slandering him with the rest of the Neocons.
Fuck his old asperger ass so hard.
>>67695767
>RNC fucks you in the ass hard for years
>say nothing
>Trump runs for president
>MUH fascism!!!!!
>>67697049
What do you think "take back jobs from China" entails? What jobs do you think China does that we don't do that we'd ever want, and how do you think you could make them desirable for people to engage in?
>>67695767
Ron "White Supremacists Wrote My Newsletter" Paul might want to dial down the rhetoric a bit. Or at least stop throwing stones near his own glass house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic
He doesn't believe it.
>>67695767
He's butthurt because Rand was one of the first targets of The God Emperor.
>>67697226
Lets be honest here, his son started to become a whiny little bitch after trump entered the race. It was very odd for him to act that way. Most likely it ended up fucking him over.
>>67696891
pretty much this, far too many people want the nanny state running their lives
>>67696838
/thread
>>67697405
It means making China play by the rules. Free trade agreements are two-way, not one-way. You know that, right?
>>67695767
It's really kind of silly. The GOP fucked him so hard, for so long, and yet he's speaking out more against Trump than he ever did them.
>>67697117
Sure, it becomes obvious that Rand would win in a primary race against Cruz if you have seen them in the Senate, most likely would have destroyed him in the debates like I said if trump was not there.
>>67697226
I don't care who fucking Ron Paul supports. There can't be a more irrelevant person in politics.
Career politician of 30+ years yet spent a lifetime trying to be a president as an "outsider" and here comes Trump who does it without even trying on autopilot. No wonder he's so asshurt.
>>67697405
well fuck you if your don't want a job
>>67697084
No, /pol/ has been pissy about Ron Paul since Trump 2016 became a thing. /pol/ sometimes gets blinded by shit to look at the bigger picture. /pol/ was just as pissy in 2012 when Paul would criticize Romney even though he was also bitching about Obama equally, if not more.
>>67696891
So don't allow for the idea that people can steal from you and dictate what you do in life justly. Simple.
>>67696804
/thread
>>67697405
>What do you think "take back jobs from China" entails?
Lower corporate taxes to investors in the US and threat a Trade War with China.
>>67697117
No way
Rand actually has principles, Cruz is just a sociopath who saw that far-right conservatism would be the best way to get into power in the late 2000s
>>67697606
Cruz is infinitely superior to Rand when it comes to debating
>>67696894
He wants free trade? I thought he wanted tariffs. Nice list though.
>>67695767
Ron Paul 2012 why =(
>>67695767
Look here you stupid faggot.
We are Weimar Germany. Either we can give power to the internationalists, the Bolsheviks, or the nationalist worker's party.
So when you say "MUH FASCISM!" It's not an insult and it's not troubling. What other choice do we have?
>ron 'borders are statist' paul
>>67697589
>it means making China play by the rules
What rules? What are they doing that is "against the rules"?
We all know exactly what he plans to introduce, which is tariffs. Which will punish the vast majority of Americans and benefit a very few.
>>67696690
I dislike FDR for saving capitalism in the 1930s, but yeah, basically the right tries to misuse the term "fascism" to mean anything going against their plots.
Fascism is capitalism in decay. The last attempt of a dying system to save itself.
>>67697707
He wants two-way free trade. If countries aren't willing to respect the agreement, why should America respect it? So you do the same they do to you.
If they want free trade, then it's two-way free trade.
If they don't want two-way free trade, then you impose tariffs to discipline them until they give up.
>>67696690
FDR was a fascist for sure
It is unclear just how authoritarian Trump is
>>67695767
sorry ron, Donald is our new god. you can fuck off
>>67697798
>What rules? What are they doing that is "against the rules"?
Oh, you are just ignorant. Open a book. They are literally violating every commercial agreement.
>>67697268
> A guy who wants to end all this Neocon intervention
Kind of. Even though Justin Raimondo (another one of Ron Paul's friends) fully backs Trump for his foreign policy, he admits it's not non-interventionist at all, just close to it.
>and audited the FED
lolno. He merely mentioned that Cruz didn't show up for the vote. Trump has actually previously indicated that he is not anti-Fed at all. He has, however, recently criticized Yellen but then again, so have many pro-Fed politicians.
>>67697017
hahaha Randlets are so fucking funny. Yeah buddy, he would have been elected 7 times in a row like his father, right?
>>67697886
He said he will audit the Fed
everyone but autistic libertarians know FDR was the greatest president, so this is a good comparison.
Ron Paul is an official faggot cuck now.
>>67695767
i respect ron paul, but i agree with trump politically.
if trump is a fascist, then give me a fascist.
Ron Paul should endorse Trump already and stop playing it hard to get.
Rand should also be given a cabinet position.
>>67695767
>Cato's political and personal differences with Caesar appear to date from this time. In a meeting of the Senate dedicated to the Catilina affair, Cato harshly reproached Caesar for reading personal messages while the senate was in session to discuss a matter of treason. Cato accused Caesar of involvement in the conspiracy and suggested that he was working on Catilina's behalf, which might explain Caesar's otherwise odd stance that the conspirators should receive no public hearing yet be shown clemency. Caesar offered it up to Cato to read. Cato took the paper from his hands and read it, discovering that it was a love letter from Caesar's mistress Servilia Caepionis, Cato's half-sister.
>>67697635
Then carry on your day. I, too, don't really care who he supports and, like MOST of his supporters, are voting Trump anyways. My entire point is that getting mad at him for an opinion that is consistent with his entire career is retarded.
This isn't like Glenn Beck, who is all over the place and outright lies and cries over Trump and people not falling for the Cruz ruse. It's a guy who keeps on saying he doesn't like anyone running. Nothing to see here.
>>67697185
I think very few people know how right you are, whether you're being serious or not. This election has shown us that there is no political solution to the gloablist corporate totalitarianism that has been creeping into every part of society.
>>67697685
American companies don't base in China. The "jobs" that China takes are ones in industries in which they are more competitive largely because of their labor prices being so low. We don't want those low wage, textile jobs. "Trade War" hurts everyone and is idiotic. Protectionism is literal cancer tier economic policy.
Looking for the two-panel image showing, in one panel: what women think men want (showing a hot chick in a bikini) in the other panel what men really want (a picture of Trump)
¡Post it here! ¡Please!
>>67697873
Like which one?
>>67696809
GODDAMN A MILLION TIMES THIS
>"Anon I need your help"
>OK show me where to sig...
>click here to donate
>into the trash it goes
>>67697818
well spoken words from a jew flag in disguise
>>67698206
>The "jobs" that China takes are ones in industries in which they are more competitive largely because of their labor prices being so low.
All the latinos and black-americans would disagree with you. Also, trade fuckery because of the currency devaluation.
TRUMP RIDES THE WAVE OF AMERICAN FASCISM
>>67697495
Because the very first thing Rand did at the very first debate was attack Trump. You could see that Trump had respected him up until that moment. After that moment it was game-on and Randlet mercilessly getting blown the fuck out, like anyone who goes after the God Emperor gets blown the fuck out.
And Rand said a lot of truly nasty personal shit about Trump. He was attcking him personally and doing the "he's not a real Republican" shit months and moths ago.Trump is a much bigger man than Rand, despite the ridiculousness, and Rand can't see the full scope of it and it offends his ego.
>>67695767
Ah the gold shill comes out of hiding. If anyone wants to complain about, "controlled opposition" it's this guy and his baby manlet.
What happened to you Ron, you used to be cool.
![1044223[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NGjwwxE.jpg "1044223[2].jpg")
>>67695767
I don't think anybody takes Ron Paul seriously anymore after he put those advertisements on TV threatening a happening that you could save yourself from if you signed up for his subscription based pay site.
>>67696560
What Culture? Define American culture.
>>67695767
Great, now i imagine Trump surfing on fascist waves.
>>67697802
Saved capitalism?
FDR damned near killed it with the NRA.
The supreme court saved capitalism by ruling the NRA unconstitutional.
...and good job SCOTUS
>>67698493
my nigga, I definitely thump for trump.
Do you people not understand that people that believe in actual limited government and Liberty don't like trump? Are you too deluded to realize why that is?
>>67698411
We have a minimum wage that discriminates more largely against those black and latino workers than others. Are you against the minimum wage? If you are, then yes - that would be a good point.
The issue with the currency is that they do the same thing we do - mandate use of their currency and disallow competing currencies. If there were a free market in currencies that couldn't even possibly happen. The root of the issue is big government violence (what a surprise).
Ron isn't wrong, but right now the US needs Trump. We can go to libertarianism after things get fixed up.
>>67696797
It's scurrry word Hitler bad YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER
>>67697606
don’t conservatives favor replacing FDR’s socialist Social Security system with a fascist one — one in which the government forces people to invest part of their income into government-approved retirement accounts? Don’t they extol and glorify the fascist retirement plan brought to Chile by fascist Chilean dictator Gen. Augusto Pinochet, who himself extolled and glorified Spain’s fascist dictator Francisco Franco? Don’t conservatives also favor mandatory health savings accounts, whereby the government manipulates or coerces people into establishing medical IRAs?
>>67698523
Move over Wolf Blitzer we got a political maven here
>>67695767
These things happen for a reason. Fascism doesn't just sprout up. It grows from years of shit policies and forcing people to accept things. PC culture is to blame for this. They are to blame. If they want to get mad at anyone, they should be pissed at themselves for being the asshole bullies they are.
>>67695767
I'm a bit tired of Ron Paul. He's just a senile old man at this point.
>>67698771
>We have a minimum wage that discriminates more largely against those black and latino workers than others.
No, This is an immigration issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtchqJqjrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtchqJqjrI
>>67697111
Why? He's had the same political views before you were probably born.
>>67696016
>>67696016
you are too brainwashed to fathom
the signs
>>67695767
Obviously he's right. But I don't care. I want it all to go to hell. If you actually think Trump will do anything, you're retarded. I just want that shock that this society needs to stop this world's slow liberal decline.
Holy shit I am getting so sick of Ron Paul
>>67696478
>"I can longer tell if Ron Paul is a high-order troll or a low-information retard." says the unaccomplished autistic neckbeard on a Taiwanese wood carving forum.
http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
>>67698765
So much this.
I'll be voting for Johnson...again
>>67698929
>>67698929
that CAN save your life from
overrunning government
>>67697185
this doesn't hold water anymore
lets just say the same support that Trump now has went to Ron in 2012. He's not self funded and more soft spoken than Donald. Trump still has a heck of fight to get the nomination. What chance do you think Paul (who's ideologies they hate even more than trump's) would have had against the might of the system they're now throwing at Trump.
Its ok for Paul to point out disagreements with Trump's polices but I think he should endorse him and try to work with him while continuing to educate people in his libertarian principles. Ron should realize that now its Trump or bust.
>fascism
>bad
>>67695767
wouldn't this be considered a good thing on this board?
>>67697635
>I don't care who fucking Ron Paul supports. There can't be a more irrelevant person in politics.
4 years ago Rand was the Nazi white hope
Did any of you cucks take the 5 minutes to actually read the article and not just respond to the tweet?
He makes the case that both Democrats and Conservatives advocate for fascist policies all the time, in particular FDR who was a huge advocate of fascism.
>Let’s face it: Fascism has a glorious history among both Democrats and Republicans, so long as it’s called “reforming” or “saving” free enterprise. All the hubbub over Donald Trump’s fascism is personal, not ideological.
>All the hubbub over Donald Trump’s fascism is personal, not ideological.
calm the fuck down idiots. Ron clearly isn't a huge fan of Trump, given that Trump is more of a nationalist than libertarian, but Ron was simply calling out the hypocrisy of the leftists who claim Trump is Hitler.
fucks sake.
>>67697986
Do you believe everything he has said in the primary that contradicts what he has said rather recently? Immigration, yes, he will take care of that shit. Less stupid wars? Yes, he's been complaining about that for years. The Fed is something he's only recently be critical of. he used to be favorable to it before. Same with erosion of 2nd amendment rights, abortion, etc.
I'm not like Paul in that I prefer the bigger picture and think Trump will at least block the leftist agenda as well as the GOP cucks. But I'm not holding my breath that he will do much of anything regarding the Fed, outside of appointing a less retarded chairman than Yellen.
>>67698765
Because Libertarianism is another Jewish horseshit ideology, and now that a candidate actually might accomplish a lot of what the Pauls claimed they wanted to accomplish, they turn on that person.
The Muh Constituion Muh Liberty masquerade and driving dissenters into a wonky, masturbatory dead end is over. Someone might actually do it, and the Pauls are upset, and it reveals what they are really about, which is doing absolutely nothing.
>>67699105
Crashing this republic with no survivors
>>67696120
i thought he didnt get along with his son
>>67696016
No the liberals are the fascists, he's riding on top of their hate
gnarly
Clinton fascist
Sanders fascist
Trump probably fascist
Cruz unlikely fascist
>>67696894
He also wants to audit the Fed. You'd think RP would suck Trumps dick for that alone.
>>67698948
Trade with China is an immigration issue? If that's your implication that's simply not the case. Some industries that don't require all that much skill to engage in are simply more cost efficient to hire Chinese labor for, so people do that instead of basing those industries elsewhere. If you had people willing to work for < $3 an hour in the U.S., then those industries might find their come here, though I still doubt it since comparative advantage is still a thing.
But minimum wage virtually eliminates even that possibility, since it *mandates* that you cannot work for that little, and thus employers cannot possibly be competitive in such industries.
Ron Paul is the definition of a cuckservative. Who cares what that old faggot thinks.
Yeah I'm a fascist, what are you gonna do about it cuck?
>>67697663
>/pol/
>in 2012
>would criticize Paul
Just admit you're a newfag shill
>>67699105
/pol/ is dead. It's a clusterfuck of group think and hero worship that has no logic or consistency. It's only good for an occasional laugh and it's not very good for even that.
leave it to Ron Paul to ruin everyones good time.
Ok, granpa, we dont need a government or law and order. thats how the world works
>>67695767
now i know Ron is a staunch libertarian, hell i completely agree with his beliefs that trump in the longrun is gonna fuck america by changing the whole base of democracy itself and pretty much turn this place into a fascist hellhole after a while. the thing is Thats in the future to deal with after the 4 years, and his alternatives are 1 trillion times worse, whereas trumps belief system will eventually ride the stormfront train into ruling america and changing it eventually, Hillary and her establishment cronies WILL KILL AMERICA today if they get any chance to continue holding, and i'm firmly of the belief that this election is our last chance to grasp democracy still.
Ron Paul has been staring at the long game for so long hes forgotten to pay attention to the here and now and the large ass wave of perpetual doom right at our doorstep, its flagrantly irresponsible and he should feel ashamed of himself.
Its not that trump is good overall ron, its hes needed to keep the bullshit NWO in check NOW as an emergency stop measure.
>>67699563
He only said that to give Cruz shit for not showing up to vote on it.
>>67699435
He didn't. Most of /pol/ is just mad he doesn't blindly back our future President. Even Trump respects Ron Paul and doesn't get upset by this. Neither do Ron's friends who also back Trump like Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell, Walter Block, Justin Raimondo, Doug Wead, etc etc.
It's like what happened here when Ron Paul refused to endorse Romney in 2012.
>>67695767
Well I can see why he'd call FDR out and I'm glad some mainstream politicians finally have the balls to call out FDR, but boy FDR and Trump are very far apart on a shit load of issues. Trump doesn't want the government giving everyone a job and doesn't want another New Deal, he wants to limit the government basically all around.
>>67699394
>a lot of what they wanted to accomplish
Besides audit the fed which as far as I know trump mentioned one time and probably won't even do, what else?
>trivializing the constitution and Liberty
Oh I know exactly the kind of person you are.
>>67699692
>we will never go back to pre-/pol/ Harbor
Fuck Moot
>>67699651
>cuckservative
Stop throwing out words when you don't know what they mean neo/pol/ faggot
>>67698206
>Protectionism is
how every developed country became one
>>67699660
> Probably doesn't know what /new/ or /n/ were either
The Romney shilling was strong here. I am glad to see Trump reveal Mittens for the cuck he always has been.
>>67699802
Maybe he'll do it as revenge for all the audits the IRS have done to him. Only if he wants to also die of course
Surprised he took a break from shilling for shady gold dealers
>>67695767
Libertarians are pussies AND traitors
>>67696120
>>67696350
>Ron Paul and Thomas Sowell disagree with Trump on policy
Yes and I would love for them to actually attack his policy rather than attack his personality. I mean he has pages on his site dedicated to exactly what he wants, and he half explains himself during debates (but to be fair its really hard to explain a policy in under a minute without sparing details). There are plenty of problems with Trump's policy so hit him there.
>>67700041
>how almost every country ever has fucked itself
ftfy
>>67700070
and you are a faggot stormnigger
take your skinhead sieg hail homosex circlejerk back to cripplechan you fucking cuck.
I don't get it
is this Paul's endorsement of Trump?
>FDR
>fascist
Kill yourself, Ron
>>67699061
Libertarians tend to be ideologues, they can't help pointing out the problems with other ideologies and they can't compromise (not even with other Libertarians half the time). I would expect that some would begrudgingly vote for Trump anyway, but a lot of them are going to vote for Gary Johnson.
>>67700055
Romney was only a thing after Paul lost /pol/ hated to have nigger win. But Romney wasn't loved, that was just the only thing we had to counter the liberals.
But Paul was never bashed or criticized over Romney.
>>67700148
He doesn't have much in terms of policy. But why would the sheep care when he'll "make America great again"?
>>67700248
no Ron is doing the retarded stance of everybody fucking sucks, screw this election, when in reality he should back trump just for the sheer fact that this is the last real chance to pimpslap cronyism and hes not bothering to even try to deal with it since hes far too much of a purist to give a singular fuck about anything.
>>67697873
>>67697589
As far as I know there is no established international penalty for artificial currency devaluation. And if he wants to create one, he will need to punish Japan and Germany too.
>>67700262
He single handedly expanded presidential authority and the federal government probably more than anyone in the last 150 years.
>>67700266
> I would expect that some would begrudgingly vote for Trump anyway, but a lot of them are going to vote for Gary Johnson.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2016-02-29/ronpaul-com-founders-endorse-donald-trump-for-president/
https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/03/walter-e-block/libertarians-trump/
https://dougwead.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/where-will-the-libertarians-go-trump-cruz-rubio-kasich/
Yes, some will remain ideologically consistent. Many however basically want to see the GOP and leftists burn.
>>67698821
this argument is retarded in this instance. if Trump is fascist he is objectively like Hitler, which is a bad thing
>>67698619
Those who identify with our founding principles of individual liberty, small government, self-reliance and most importantly upholding the constitution in a literal sense.
>>67699692
>has no logic or consistency
So what you're saying is people have different opinions and don't agree with each other?
>clusterfuck of group think
Oh no, you're saying the opposite. Okay, you're just stupid I guess.
>>67700608
It can't be said too many times.
FDR was a fascist.
He was such a fascist his own party overrode his vetoes.
...and by the way, FDR was a fascist
>>67700755
Cool that has nothing to do with race. Glad we agree. Borders are meaningless
>>67696120
Ron doesn't like Rand's policies and didn't endorse him either. Fuck off, neo/pol/fag.
>>67700372
Yes he was you senile idiot. Anyone on /pol/ who brought up that Romney was basically Obama-lite with more neocon tendancies was called a "Paulbot." People would post what Ron Paul was saying regarding Romney and Obama being similar and people would say that the guy was a "sore loser" who is now irrelevant. That his son Rand (remember when nobody called him Randlet until Trump became a thing?) endorsed Romney, and thus is relevant and important with an actual future.
>>67700372
Listen I like and respect Ron Paul, but a lot of his ideas and policies are just not realistic. And now his complaints are just coming off as annoying. Trump may not be the best way to get to his end game, but it's a hell of a lot better than an establishment candidate.
Ron needs to go home with his open borders libertarian bullshit. He's just sore his little rubber cuckling boy didn't get any traction. Libertarian philosophy is just "do whatever" because they're too stupid or scared to actually have positions I guess. Douches. I'm really disappointed in that giggly, stuttering old ass hat.
>>67696804
This, Ron Paul is his own man. Like the old gentleman he is, he speaks his mind even if that means disparaging someone one day and supporting them for what they did right another day.
>>67700945
I would agree with you in theory. But much like lolbertarianism that is the only place it exists. Those concepts have no meaning to third world hordes and you can tell by the way they consistently vote to expand the welfare state and restrict personal liberties.
But of course you'll tell me it isn't a majority of white males pushing the principles I defined, right?
>>67701260
Yeah man respecting people's rights and not punishing people for liking what you don't, that's all because we're too weak to have positions.
Fucking statist cuck
>>67700945
>implying American culture will survive with 1 billion African immigrants.
Did any of you fuckheads read the article?
Policies developed by fascist economists != automatically bad, and the left is just as prone to developing "fascist policies"
Stop getting asshurt like associating anything you like with "fascism" is an insult, and read that the article discredits people who call him a fascist as mostly a personal attack
>>67701302
How many hordelings do you think can afford to come to the U.S.?
>>67701453
Immigrants are incredibly more statist than Americans, libertarians will ensure the death of their own ideology with open borders.
>>67700148
>plenty of problems
>doesn't even give one example
You are as bad as what you are complaining about.
>>67701776
>all libertarians are for open borders
This is a hot fresh new dank meme isn't it?
They called Ross Perot a fascist and ALL OF HIS PREDICTIONS IN 1992 CAME TRUE
>>67695767
Didn't he say something about economic armageddon like 30 years ago?
>>67701684
A slow trickle is fine. The thing now is that they aren't forced to integrate. I live near the border and I hear much more Spanish than I do English. People here aren't American, simply foreigners living here.
>>67695767
Libertarians are morons who have an irrational love for the over-simplistic idea of the automatic self-regulating system. They are morally, philosophically and intellectually bankrupt since they can not come up with solutions and systems of government more complicated than the lowest-common-denominator bottom-of-the-barrel thinking of the automatic self-regulating system.
And they are cowards who lack the conviction to enshrine conservative values into law.
As disastrous as libertarianism winning would be, it would have been way better than letting another NWO puppet win back then. But now he have Trump which can both give pause to the NWO/Oligarchy and would also be far better than Ron Paul.
Also,
>using the word fascism as a substitute for tyranny
Fascism is by far the most efficient and effective way to organize a nation both politically and economically. This moron doesn't know what fascism really means.
>>67699347
>a reasonable person still on /pol/
Wow
>>67695767
Ron Paul's just jelly his 15 minutes of meme fame are over.
>>67700221
read more books senpai
>>67702198
>this moron doesn't know what fascism means
>goes over notorious fascist leaders and policies carried out within the US that draw from fascism
Read the fucking article for the love of god
>>67701776
>>67701260
> open borders bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4XOJcrhT4
I was right. /pol/ was on the Ron Paul bandwagon without even knowing shit about his platform and ideas. So when he unsurprisingly refuses to support Trump, /pol/ has a hissy fit even though many of Paul's friends and supporters shrug and say "I know, but we need Trump now."
>>67695767
Ron Paul is more principled than us and I love him. That said, he lost and Trump wins. MAGA 2016
>>67699692
Everyone here is pro hitler and has fascist leanings but gets upset at Ron Paul calling Trump a fascist I don't get it. Is it because Normies might have a negative reaction to it?
>>67695767
not happening
>>67696894
Its the demogaugery and immigrant scapegoating. The blame placing is implied not directly stated.
>>67702427
I might say the same to you.
>>67702198
Akhi, shut the fuck up. Read the article before you start spitting all over the place like a donkey who thinks his braying is musical
>>67696804
Yeah this. /pol/ only knows extremes, I mean I also fucking hate refugees and want to gas all kikes and snadniggers but to be honest, it was really fucking obvious that Ron won't say one good thing about Trump. Same goes for Rand and who cares really, doesn't change my opinion of both of them.
>>67702106
Unless you offer free stuff, it will probably always be a slow trickle. But free stuff is offered. And guess who's doing the offering?
>>67702652
Normies have successfully weaponized "fascism" into the "nigger" of Trump supporters, who can blame them.
>>67702652
Yeah we're simply crafting our arguments and strengthening our cognitive dissonance.
>>67695767
A few years ago I noticed how much Ron Paul shills for overpriced gold sellers. So I haven't had much respect for a person that uses fake fear and panic to cheat people's savings.
Which was why I questioned Trump at first, thinking it was a financial angle, like attention for a new TV show. But Trump wins by default because Trump is somehow less sleazy than every other candidate except Carson.
>>67701619
most of the people on /pol/ would go into epileptic fits if they were forced to read an entire article
>>67702198
Conviction to be a violent cuck? It must take a whole lot of "conviction" to want to lord over other people's lives. Yeah. Totally.
>>67702710
I think one of the major reasons Paul and other libertarians aren't for Trump is because of his opinions on national security/intelligence gathering, privacy, and torture
>>67702198
100% correct. Nobody can refute any of what you said.
Ron Paul was the one who got me interested in libertarianism, which opened the path to classical paleoconservatism, which lead to wherever I am now.
It's sad that now I can no longer respect the man. I don't care if he doesn't like Trump, but to call him a fascist is just being downright dishonest. The fuck, Paul? That same system lying about Trump is the same that lied about you, with the core difference that Trump has never said a racist thing in his life, and your name was literally on a magazine that called for the sterilization of niggers and named the Jew. And you're calling HIM a fascist?
What a fuck.
>>67703029
Except Ron Paul himself. Read the article idiot.
>>67702773
Didn't notice the link to the article.
Ron Paul is still trying to red pill people.
Still based
Ron has really gone senile if he thinks comparing FDR is bad. He is one of the most beloved presidents ever.
TRUMP RIDES THE WAVE OF AMERICAN FASCISM
>>67703099
> And you're calling HIM a fascist?
Lol just read the article. It's written by someone else AND defends Trump against leftists calling him a fascist. That's actually why he probably used FDR's picture, to drive the point home that a lot of liberals love fascism when their guys do it.
DIDNT TRUMP SAY TO END THE FED?
WHY DOESNT RON PAUL SUPPORT
>>67703010
I'm a Libertarian, I realize Trump will do plenty of things I won't like. All of the candidates would do plenty of things I don't like, but at least Trump is loyal to America. Trump has terrific enemies too, the most terrific enemies in the world. As Michelangelo famously said, "the enemy of my enemy is my bro."
>>67703215
>He is one of the most beloved presidents ever
>>67702710
Also because of the libel law shit. That's fucked up
Yeah people should read this.
http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/trump-rides-the-wave-of-american-fascism
> Let’s face it: Fascism has a glorious history among both Democrats and Republicans, so long as it’s called “reforming” or “saving” free enterprise. All the hubbub over Donald Trump’s fascism is personal, not ideological.
The "old senile cuckservative" you bandwagoners are shitting on was defending your husbandu.
>>67703215
Wasn't calling it bad. He simply compared them and called the hypocrisy of the left who love FDR so much when FDR successfully implemented numerous fascist policies that liberals adore.
Ron Paul is getting ever further irrelevant and will soon be dead.
>>67703269
You mean like Obamacare?
>>67695767
Trump's fascist characteristics are the reason I do not support him. The last politician I donated to was Ron Paul.
>>67703402
>END THE FED?
>WHY DOESNT RON PAUL SUPPORT
>2012
>/pol/ was full libertarian
>2016
>/pol/ is totalitarian
This board is autistic
>>67703518
>thinks trumpfags can read anything above their dear leaders vocabulary
>>67703422
I support Trump mainly because I think that this election is showing the majority of people how fucked up this system of governance is and because I hope the GOP falls after this. I'm not voting for him or anyone though based on principle.
It was supposed to be Ron Paul 2016
/pol/ is fucking shit
>>67703578
>Trump's fascist characteristics are the reason I do not support him
>>67703721
>It was supposed to be Ron Paul 2016
I think libertarianism is a fucking joke political ideology and ron paul is a lunatic that has a manlet for a son
pic related is my political compass before someone accuses me of being a fascist nazi or whatever
>>67703721
>>67703689
I hope the GOP falls after this.
>>67703731
What does this mean? I do not think Donald Trump is literally Hitler. It is not debatable that he has demonstrated he has fascist leanings though.
>>67696690
>which is funny because business leaders were planing a coup d'état to overthrow him
because he was fascist
>>67703557
Ron Paul arguably woke more people up than any other person. Trump 2016 doesn't happen without Ron Paul.
>>67703890
>>67696804
We only liked libertarianism because never in amillion years we thought a nationalist candidate would arrive. Trump is a messiah to many of us.
>>67703518
apex kek
AHAHAHAHA your party is fucking shattered and there's nothing you can do about it because you can't keep your racist, hateful ways in control.
Trump is the candidate you all deserve. RIP Republican Party.
>>67703991
>because business leaders were planing a coup d'état to overthrow him
>because he was fascist
>>67696891
>big government works for a few generations until the people you tolerate in society vote for socialism and communism. It's really that simple. People vote themselves entitlements
>>67697405
With tariffs applied to match what china already enforces, outsourced jobs in china will be significantly more expensive, making local hiring more economically viable, for example.
>>67704029
>2007
>>67704011
>Ron Paul arguably woke more 12 year olds up than any other person.
Reminder that "Free baby market" is a legitimate libertarian train of thought and was heavily backed by Murray Rothbard, one of the most influential modern libertarians.
>Applying our theory to parents and children, this means that a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die. The law, therefore, may not properly compel the parent to feed a child or to keep it alive. (Again, whether or not a parent has a moral rather than a legally enforceable obligation to keep his child alive is a completely separate question.) This rule allows us to solve such vexing questions as: should a parent have the right to allow a deformed baby to die (e.g., by not feeding it)? The answer is of course yes, following a fortiori from the larger right to allow any baby, whether deformed or not, to die. (Though, as we shall see below, in a libertarian society the existence of a free baby market will bring such “neglect” down to a minimum.)
>>67704142
fdr supported the fed
>>67704273
Making consumers pay more for goods, which hurts the majority to benefit a minority.
>>67704044
>Trump is a messiah to many of us.
>>67704384
I hope you know you are putting yourself on the side of the state, which has done more atrocities to more children than any libertarian hypothetical
>>67704384
another
>The rights of children, even more than those of parents, have been systematically invaded by the state. Compulsory school attendance laws, endemic in the United States since the turn of this century, force children either into public schools or into private schools officially approved by the state. Supposedly “humanitarian” child labor laws have systematically forcibly prevented children from entering the labor force, thereby privileging their adult competitors. Forcibly prevented from working and earning a living, and forced into schools which they often dislike or are not suited for, children often become “truants,” a charge used by the state to corral them into penal institutions in the name of “reform” schools, where children are in effect imprisoned for actions or non-actions that would never be considered “crimes” if committed by adults.
>>67704358
>sign up for job
>people expect you to do your job
>WAHHH WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THE WORK?! STOP OPPRESSING ME! STATE'S RIGHTS! FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTERFERING WITH MY LIFE!
average ron paul voter
pro-tip: nobody picked him at random to go to these places, he willingly chose to join the military
>>67704175
Yeah he's just discussing democracy.
>>67703673
libertarian --> totalitarian is the natural transition.
Maybe 2020 will be the year of the constitutional monarchy
>>67704408
so does everyone else
>>67695767
Paul is controlled opposition
>>67704565
Good goy. Never question going to war for ZOG.
fucking ron paul is just a happy merchant wanting to sell retards gold coins, fuck him and his son hes never going to do shit.
>>67700467
And that's why lolbertarians are stupid. They will go to the polls and vote Gary Johnson yet again and let Hillary win. They are so stubborn and overly idealistic they shoot themselves in the foot.
Trump is not as authoritarian as he comes across. I see him as leaving many parts of government to the states but enacting federal fiscal policy that helps everyone.
Alright so facism is radical nationals authoritarianism focused on a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader with firm control over economy and society.
Trump is radical
Trump is a Nationalism
However going so far as to say he is a authoritarian or has behavior or policies indicative of a dictator is absurd. He talks about cutting government, not expanding.
A "facist" who isn't for big government isn't a facist those are fundamentally incompatible beliefs..
>>67695767
>>67695767
He claims the media is making up stories about Trump casting him in a negative light. Ron paul did the same thing now. Ron Paul became what he hates and what he fears most. Its happening Ron
>>67698126
The toppest of bantz
>>67698765
Because Trump appeals mostly to working class people who are tired of political correctness & open-door immigration.
He plays off their frustrations, which though valid, lose sight of the bigger picture of giving government more fucking power
