Are there any non-biased, objective pros and cons of circumcision?
>>67695824
Genuinely this.
People who are against it can get to be absurdly vitriolic and high strung. And people who are "for" it generally don't give a shit.
Pro: none
Con: having part of your penis cut off
>>67695697
Pro: None
Con: Somewhere a rabbi will have one less babydick to put in his mouth.
There is a meme that it is easier to clean
It has some moderate hygienic benefits that are rendered largely null in a society where daily bathing is the norm and antibiotics are readily available.
The downsides include diminished sexual sensation and possible psychological trauma in infants.
As far as I'm concerned, if you're going to remove a body part you ought to have a damn good reason and I just don't see any big advantages to it. I will not be circumcising my children even though I am circumcised myself.
>>67695697
To appease American women who think uncircumcised dicks look disgusting
>>67695697
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23937309
>>67695697
>>67695697
Circumcision was very very useful to people in the past who didn't bathe regularly. It prevented random infections, and phimosis.
Thing is it DOES remove many nerve ending and make sex less pleasurable. So in the modern world where people can shower daily. It is basically just outdated mutalation.
People defend it because no one wants to admit they are damaged in the most embarrassing way
>>67695697
Supposedly it made boys less likely to masturbate.
>>67696274
this is technically true, but it's like saying that you should shave off all your hair so that your scalp will be easier to clean- pointless if you're capable of taking a small amount of time to clean it yourself
>>67695697
My pubic hair comes about 1-2 inches up the shaft from the skin being stretched i guess.
>>67696434
Less pleasurable?
You cum don't you? Sex is for procreation, not pure pleasure
>>67695998
>And people who are "for" it generally don't give a shit.
The banality of evil-- as the kikes might say.
i had phimosis as a kid
>>67695998
Agree, not a big deal in my opinion, but this case from OP's pic is a bit different. It was just the father who wanted it done to the kid, but the kid and mom don't and the court ordered the boy to be circumcised.
Say what you will about circumcision, but it is fucked up that a judge should be allowed to force a child to undergo a mostly cosmetic procedure.
>>67696529
How many little boys like cleaning themselves? None
It should actually just be the last straw for curing phimosis when stretching it isn't viable anymore
>tfw have to get cut
Hold me, /pol/
>>67696703
>murrika
>>67696369
But this methodology makes no sense. You would need to test the same person before circumcision and then test again them afterwards. You can't just take groups of circumcised and uncircumcised men and expect subjective ratings to be meaningful.
>>67695697
uhhhh is it illegal not to be circumcised? Why are they forcing her hand?
>>67696703
I didn't like clipping my toe nails when I was kid, that wasn't a reason to rip them off with pliers.
>>67696703
That is ridiculous reasoning
I didn't like taking showers as a kid but my parents (rightfully) forced me to
>>67696501
Suddenly liberals agree with religion when it comes to man hating
>>67696434
Well said.
People seem to blow it out of proportion.
If somone wants to get cut, why stop them?
In the case of children, they can't give consent, so it's a nono.
>>67696701
>my body my choice
Except when we can mutilate boys lol
>>67696703
mutilatee detetced
>>67696620
Kek
You are so brainwashed. Why are women allowed to keep their genitals intact and we aren't?
Sex was meant to be pleasurable. Even if you are a Christ fag you can admit God made our bodies in his design. Who are we to change that?
>>67695998
>can get to be absurdly vitriolic and high strung
Yeah, that happens when someone mutilates your genitals when you're a kid and the best excuse they give you for it is that you won't know to wash your dick.
>>67696817
why dont you use google and find out for yourself?
>>67697014
Virtually everyone ever circumcised is circumcised as a baby. How is this blowing it out of proportion?
>>67696760
At least you won't have a kike suck your dick as a baby. I heard that your dick grows a little bit after circumcision, but only when you have had phimosis for real.
>>67695998
>>67695697
>People who are against it can get to be absurdly vitriolic and high strung
OP was asking about objective facts, not the manner in which they are sometimes delivered.
Unless you have severe phimosis or foreskin cancer, there is no valid reason for circumcision.
>>67696703
okay, but I don't see parents taking their kids to the dentist to have all of their adults teeth pulled out and to get dentures instead, even though brushing one's teeth is a hassle even for adults sometimes.
How the fuck is a circumcised dick easier to clean?
Am I literally the only person that covers their entire body in soap every time I shower? Just pull your foreskin back and give it a good rub down with the soap bar, it's that fucking easy.
Do between your arse cheeks as well while you're at it.
Somebody please tell me I'm not the only fucker that does this.
Friendly reminder that Jews use baby foreskins as ingredients for skin cream.
>>67696844
kek
>>67695697
there are no real pros
I can tell you that much.
>>67696703
>not wanting to touch yourself
>>67695697
No. There has been no well-designed experiment on the subject, despite how easy it would be to do. The only things that can be discussed are from axiomatic facts such as less skin surface = less likelihood of cuts = less likelihood of STDs, and it's significantly easier to clean when circumcised, and there are many foreskin malformation patterns which are all eliminated by circumcision.
>>67697281
I didn't believe this at first but it's actually true
>>67697248
the reasoning comes from ancient Biblical times where water was a rare commodity and I don't think soap had even been invented yet.
>Get outraged over forced female genital mutilation against girls in Africa
>Don't get outraged over their own practice of Genital mutilation
>Hurdur they're two completely different things
Americans are fucking disgusting
>>67696701
>It was just the father who wanted it done to the kid
what a cuck, I bet he believes this would stop his kid to become a rapist
>>67696795
Buddy it's a peer review of the current scientific research. They didn't perform any sort of survey or experiments...
All that is is a systemic review and quality rating of the published research of circumcision. You can choose to trust their data or not, but it's sound scientific research.
>>67695697
there is genuinely no legit reason for circumcision unless there is extreme phimosis
the con is basically u get a mutilated, desensitized, dried up beef jerky dick
the pros are not even worth it if you shower regularly and wash well
its like chopping off your nose to prevent boogers, its stupid AF
This doesn't make sense...
>>67696703
Imagine this guy being your father. Scary
>Take a bath or I'm going to chop your limbs off!!
>be uncut
>take dick out
>pull back foreskin
>put dick back in pants
>literally cannot walk around properly because it's too sensitive
>walking slowly like a fucking retard cowboy
>come on /pol/
>read mad as fuck BTFO cutfags talking about how being cut doesn't matter
>mfw they're walking around all day with their glans in direct contact with fabric and they can't feel it
>mfw they will never know what sex is supposed to feel like
>>67697430
>it's significantly easier to clean when circumcised
>significantly
senpai, I'm uncut and washing my dick isn't as complicated as assembling ikea furniture or coding a video game or anything significant.
It's actually as easy as washing any other part of my body.
>>67697085
If you're a Christ fag and actually read the Bible, you know that you're not bound under messianic laws. Circumcision under the new covenant is defined by obedience to God. Circumcisions is made uncircumcision in the face of disobedience and vise versa.
>mum tells me not to forget to wash behind my ears
>forget to do so
>get ears cut off for hygiene purposes
Cut penises are objectively better looking than uncut. Real men like myself have cut penises.
>>67697720
>>67696591
that's from jerkin it too much. I'm an uncutfag and have the same problem
>>67697628
This. My fiance had phimosis and got a circumcision when he was 18. He said it wasn't bad at all and people need to calm down about the whole thing. Foreskin is great, but if you happen to not like having one, the procedure isn't that bad as an adult.
You shouldn't be allowed to do it to a child against their will.
>>67697430
so basically you're saying circumcision is good if you have poor hygiene and just want to fuck anything that moves?
>>67697826
>>67697504
One is spread by Muslims, the other by Jews.
>>67697826
a dried up dick with no hidden present isnt attractive
you probably dont feel much from oral sex given how desensitized your dick must be
>>67696369
>CONCLUSION: The highest-quality studies suggest that medical male circumcision has no adverse effect on sexual function, sensitivity, sexual sensation, or satisfaction.
WEW
But I still wouldn't believe this blindly.
>>67697430
>significantly easier to clean
Yes, pulling back the foreskin is a complicated task and takes a lot of time, like raising and lowering a bridge.
Male genital mutilation is the biggest violation of human rights in the United states, it is literally the most important issue but it gets swept aside anyway due to...Jew influence in media I suppose
>>67697979
It is a bit different though. Female circumcision involves removal of the clit, this would be equivalent to cutting the whole head of the penis off in males.
>>67697826
Jewed-up dicks, even when done right (see >>67697938) end up looking like beef jerky with a farmer's tan.
>>67697933
I'm saying that there are axiomatically provable advantages to circumcision. There are also disadvantages, such as the fact that, being an operation, easy as it is, there can be errors and complications.
>>67697566
literature reviews are by far the least trustworthy form of research
Top kek.
Wonder if a person can sue his parents for useless mutilation.
>>67695998
Maybe they're high strung because they don't want something that is theirs being cut off for no reason?
>>67698049
>cutfags will never know this feel
:_;7 keep you living in denial, lads.
>>67698071
I know right? I hate it when I wash my dick in the shower and then I accidentally start an electrical fire. I just haven't figured it out quite yet.
>>67698299
>>67698071
1e-9999 is infinitely many times larger than 0.
>2016
>still practicing cavemen surgery from 2000 years ago to please a magical sky fairy
>>67698201
you probably can sue for emotional damage
>>67698161
If I cut off my left leg there are some provable advantages. I never have to wash it and I never have to worry about getting arthritis in it.
Maybe if we start cutting women they will be paid as much as men.
>>67698087
It's less because of Jews and more because they've been doing it so long they don't want to admit they're backwards. Woman have been conditioned to see circumcision as normal. Circumcised men do it to their sons because "it happened to me, it can't be so bad, everyone else is doing it".
>>67698350
>>67695697
Pros: smaller chance of a rare disorder, considered normal to likes and their goys
Cons:decrease sexual pleasure, considered not normal by the rest of the world, Painful, you're literally mutilating a child's sexual organs for no medical reason
>>67698406
Successful circumcision has no provable negative effects. Successful leg amputation does and they are significant. Checkmate.
Really, you rednecks are exactly as bad as anti-vaccine tards.
>>67698032
You don't have to believe it blindly. It's a review of studies done on circumcision. That's all it is. It's by no means the end all be all study for circumcision, but it reviews the existing information and finds many flaws in nearly all of the oft cited studies against circumcision.
>>67698425
It's not the kikes, it's the Kellogs!
>>67698425
I guess when you're cut from birth you can't feel the difference
Another fags looking at dicks episode.
A bunch of virgins arguing about their cocks.
Cool.
Circumcision logic
>just chop your head off so you never have to wash your face, derp
Fucking idiots
>>67695998
i'd be absurdly vitriolic and high strung if someone cut the tip of my penis off
The jews are for it, isn't that reason enough to oppose it? Fuck.
>>67698591
>has no provable negative effects
except the part where you're cutting off the most sensitive and pleasurable part of the dick
Kek one out of my 3 brothers and I is not cut and he has not talked to our mom since he was like 16 when his gf laughed at his dick for looking like a turtles head and then told everyone at his school. Its just the norm in murrica and I personally like my cut dick and agree that uncut ones look odd but thats others peoples dicks not my own.
Never understood the meme that uncutfags spout about needing lube to fap though, never needed it and the few times my dick has felt dry thats what precum is for.
>>67695697
Objective? No, however from personal experience, having to get it hacked off as an adult, I have two points:
1. The sex is much much worse.
2. I get my medical issue addressed.
>>67698724
The jews are pro-breathing. Guess you should stop breathing right now.
>>67698591
Literally every circumcision reduces skin mobility along the shaft of the penis, making masturbation and sexual intercourse harder. This is one of many cons of circumcision. There are many others, one of which is reduced sensitivity in the glans due to constant exposure. Sorry, goy.
>>67697430
>Significantly easier to clean
>pull back foreskin while showering
>wash
Wow that was so hard, anon. Consider yourself lucky you had a piece of your dick chopped off to spare you these trials. Fucking self delusional faggot
>>67697826
>This is what Americans actually believe
See
>>67697720
>>67698150
>"We're only chopping a bit of the kids skin off, it's not that bad."
God forbid you let the little shit decide of his own volition as he gets older if he wants a knife to his junk. No, we have to do it right now because that's the way we've always done it.
>>67698201
Pretty sure it's happened. There are also common cosmetic operations to restore the foreskin but it looks like shit.
>>67698173
You really should read the whole thing.
>>67697847
I've had this issue since I was 6, so it is not from jerking
>>67698759
[citation needed]
anti-vacc nut-job. Meanwhile, >>67696369
>>67696369
>chopping off the most sensitive part of the penis has "no adverse effect on [...] sensitivity"
into the trash
>>67696360
This is a ridÃculos meme. Most women won't see your dick while it's soft, so what's the difference?
>>67697755
>>67697755
Seems like a big sacrifice of pleasure to appease your God. I should have had the choice of instead of being mutilated as a newborn.
>>67698591
>Successful circumcision has no provable negative effects
gee, removing millions of nerve endings from the penis has no negative effect, no sir-ree
>>67698681
dont a lot of koreans do it? your country is so christian, always puts me off when I look at korean porn
>>67695697
what the fuck is the story behind this? She was FORCED to give consent to the mutilation of her child? What fuckery is this
>>67698816
Nice failed deflection. Enjoy your dry jewed dick.
>glorious uncut master race
>>67695697
The pro's are:
>you can clean your penis 5 seconds quicker
The cons are:
>possibility of disfigurement (aside from the actual intended operation)
>possible death during an unnecessary operation
>reduction in sensitivity reducing sexual enjoyment
>evidence of trauma residue in the infant, pain levels change the structure of the brain indefinitely
They use a shitty study into sexual ehalth to justify the op, the problem witht he study was the reduction in the contraction of STD's ignored the fact that the person on the receiving end of the operation was unable to have sexual relations for 4-6 months, with this period taken out fo the study the contraction of STD's was no different than those with an intact penis.
>>67698894
>I don't believe in reality, only in my feelings
>skin is sensitive unlike the chunk of flesh with the nerves in it
>>67697430
"Easy"
You know. Fair commentary, like asking a feminist organisation to report rape.
There is absolutely no conflict of interest between honesty and reporting on a matter you have a dog in the fight on, as far as outcome and depictions of it go.
>>67695697
>pros
You don't have to clean the foreskin
>cons
It's fucking genital mutilation. I have no precum and reduced sensitivity because my parents decided to have me cut for no goddamn reason. We aren't even jewish.
>>67698780
https://vine.co/v/MmF0uPDHzvb
>>67698816
Jews are actually neutral when it comes to breathing, and breathing isn't something that is almost exclusive to their religion/culture
>>67698874
You seem upset, goyim. Did all the sensitivity you lost in your dick go to your feelings?
>>67696501
Didn't slow me down one bit
>>67697409
Why am I laughing, this isn't even funny.
>>67695998
Notice how it's mostly americans that are for it. It's a big thing in america to let their parents decide non medical surgeries on their children. There is no practical thing about it. Before 19th century they did it because it was common to get infected because people did not wash themselves.
>ITT: Self-conscious fags sad about their ugly dicks.
>>67698842
The jews are so fucking degenerate. It makes me sick.
>>67698874
see
>>67697845
and
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102/
>>67698945
bring your complaint up with jews, not Christians
>americans see this dry, dull glans and try to tell me circumcision has no downsides and is the healthy choice
>>67696152
/thread
>>67695697
Its not worth it except in certain medical conditions, like very extreme phimosis.
Anyway all circumcised men should look into foreskin restoration, completely nonsurgically you can apply tension to skin on the penis that will cause skin and mucosal tissue to grow, creating a skin sheathe that can restore the sliding mechanism of the foreskin while protecting and re-moistening the glans. Pic related is a restored foreskin of a guy who was circumcised at birth.
>>67695998
Yeah people tend to get vitriolic and high strung when they realize that the most sensitive part of their body was surgically altered without their informed consent and the only justification people give is out of context statistics and morally repugnant garbage.
>>67695697
Circumcision decreases penile sensitivity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102?dopt=Abstract
Circumcision associated with sexual difficulties
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947
Circumcision linked to alexithymia
http://www.mensstudies.com/content/2772r13175400432/?p=a7068101fbdd48819f10dd04dc1e19fb&pi=4
The exaggeration of the benefits of circumcision in regards to HIV/AIDS transmission
http://jme.bmj.com/content/36/12/798.abstract
Circumcision/HIV claims are based on insufficient evidence
http://www.4eric.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MC.pdf
There is no case for the widespread implementation of circumcision as a preventative measure to stop transmission of AIDS/HIV
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2011.00761.x/full
Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977
Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Circumcision policy is influenced by psychosocial factors rather than alleged health benefits
http://www.circumcision.org/policy.htm
Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/
Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902
Circumcision has negligible benefit
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9091693
Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731
Circumcision may lead to need for increased care and medical attention in the first 3 years of life
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9393302
Circumcision linked to psychological trauma
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behavior
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10657682
>>67699046
Having no pre-cum has nothing to do with the lack of foreskin. Sorry Timmy, looks like you're an untermensch deformed abomination regardless.
>>67695697
What the actual fuck? Why is she crying over some foreskin on a penis? And why is there a court case about it? Where is this world heading to?
>>67699167
I know right? They're fucking crazy.
And somehow we were the bad guys back then
>>67699004
>I'm sure that the chunk of flesh with all those nerves will be all right without its natural cover
>>67696620
Virgin detected.
>>67695697
desensitisation of penis head due to circumcision lowers sex drive and therefore put energy into making shackles.
>>67695697
>objective pros
Some people have a condition where the foreskin tears/bleeds and is only really solved by getting circumcised.
>cons
Having it removed later in life can cause a loss of sensitivity making it so you can no longer climax. Also we don't preemptively remove the appendix at birth so why continue removing the foreskin?
>Circumcision linked with sexual difficulties
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947
>Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977
>Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
>Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/
>Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902
>Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731
>Circumcision linked to psychological trauma
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
>Circumcision may lead to abnormal brain development and subsequent deviations in behavior
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10657682
And that's not getting into what happens if the procedure is botched or if the rabbi gives your kid herpes sucking on his bleeding dick (which actually happened).
The cons and complications far outweigh any benefits. If an adult wants to consent to the procedure he can do so if he really wants to, but circumcising a child unless it's a medical emergency is child abuse.
>>67699253
some people feel passionately about needlessly mutilating children
go figure
>>67698681
Am Scottish so have no idea but always believed that it is only Jews and Muslims who do it. Not Asians, ... I mean ... I've never seen an Asian with a mutilated penor
>>67699253
She didn't want to have her son mutilated.
It reduces sensitivity by 75% http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102
It also causes autism http://jrs.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/01/07/0141076814565942.full
>>67699180
This is a thing? Holy shit. This is wonderful.
>>67695697
The rise of circumcision in America came from christian americans that were too scared to say the word penis and teach their child how to clean themselves properly so they paid a doctor to cut it off.
Christians from the 1950s to about 1990s really fucked up so many cultural things with their "purism" bull shit.
>OH NOES I CANT SAY PENIS IT IS A BAD WORD AND I WILL GO TO HELL FOR SAYING IT
Literally the worst people ever.
>>67697248
>using soap on your dick
Doesn't that sting?
>>67698977
>5 seconds quicker
Even that is being generous.
>pull foreskin back
>lather with soap
>rinse it off
I think that cutfags must think that washing ourselves requires a system of levers and pulleys and two keyholes on opposite ends of a room that need to be activated and turned at the same time
>>67696152
>Having excess skin cut off
Still don't see a problem
>>67696434
Funnily enough, in places where hygiene is very poor, the last thing you'd want to do would be deliberately inflicting a large open wound on a part of the body vulnerable to infection.
>>67699253
>My son is going to be mutilated without his consent
>I feel this is wrong
>I have no say in the matter
What the fuck is wrong with you is the actual question, anon.
AMERICANS ARE ACTUALLY FUCKED, ITS ONLY AMERICANS TRYING TO DEFEND HAVING YOUR PENIS MUTILATED
the head gets dirty goo goo gaa gaa
>>67695697
fucking cornflakes
>>67698399
Emotional?
What about physical damage?
Pretty sure there's little emotional damage considering you're 8 days old at the time of the procedure and don't remember the trauma.
>>67699442
Only when it gets in the hole
>>67695697
Pros- none, unless you are too retarded to wash a dick. Seriously my sides explode every time an americunt mentions cleaning a foreskin. I know you are all fat twats, but it is honestly not that hard, it takes less than 2 seconds.
Cons- It's a jew thing. It normalises jew behaviour. It is a kike stamp. Mark of the jew. There is a reason USA twats get so artsy about foreskin. They have been brainwashed by their Jew overlords to be revolted by a normal penis.
>>67699442
they don't have ph neutral soap in australia?
>>67696620
If your Christfagging do it right. It's meant for procreation, bonding, and pleasure between a married man and woman.
>>67699155
>online survey
Not even anti-vacc fags go this low.
>>67699485
>Mutilated
>Removing excess skin
feels good to be part of the master-race
Wow, it's a boy!
Time to cut a piece of his penis off!
>>67698591
>Successful leg amputation does and they are significant.
Please provide source.
>>67699658
You can stop baiting at any time.
>>67699457
>excess
except that it's not excess skin, otherwise it wouldn't be filled with nerve endings and blood vessels.
This is like cutting off your eyelids.
>muh excess skin
>>67699498
>the head gets dirty goo goo gaa gaa
lmao
>>67699253
She's crying because a man with a knife is going to forcefully mutilate the sex organs of her child, leaving him a desensitized amputee. Fairly reasonable response if you think about it.
>>67695697
I love circumsicion. I haven't showered since last week and my dick is still cheese free. Literally the greatest invention imo.
I put it to new parents;
you can have your son circumcised, but you must be with them whilst it is performed
see how sleepless nights listening to your week old baby scream until they choke gives you
>this obsessed with dicks
>still pretending you're not a fag
TOP KEK
>>67696760
Even in cases of phimosis there are much less painful, less invasive surgeries that don't remove tissue or alter function.
>>67699457
it's not excess skin your weird fucker
>>67696691
Your doctor tricked you as revenge for the war Klaus. Phimosis can be fixed via vigorous masturbation or sex.
>>67699658
>foreskin
>excess skin
kek. i guess your eyelids are just "excess skin" as well then, goyim.
>>67699727
It's no different than removing the appendix prior to appendicitis, except there is no need to open up the body and reach out into it
>>67695998
>people who are "for" it generally don't give a shit
Except for all those women who are like "I WON'T EVER HAVE SEX WITH AN UNCIRCUMCISED MAN, ITS DISGUSTING!".
>>67699550
>Cut clitoris off of 8 day old girl
Pretty sure there's little emotional damage considering you're 8 days old at the time of the procedure and don't remember the trauma. She won't know what actual sex is supposed to feel like later in life so she won't miss anything.
I expected better from you Poland.
>>67699751
>vestigial organ
>>67695697
Your position on circumcision serves as an excellent litmus test rationality. However, aside from the potential psychological trauma on infants, it's ultimately not a big issue.
>>67695697
It's literally genital mutilation
>>67699301
>I have no idea where nerves are
>that means I'm a qualified doctor and you should listen to me instead of countless peer-reviewed studies!
>>67697085
It is mentioned several times in christian works that a man is duty bound to help his wife achieve climax, that a female orgasm is most conducive to procreation, the same holds true for women.
Circumcision is a jewish thing, really it's a semitic thing, Muslims do it too
>>67699775
Is America rationing its water again? Those golf courses in Israel aren't going to water themselves!
>>67699658
Just how exactly can the natural cover of your most sensitive part be considered excess skin, you fucking mongrel?
TIL /pol/ is more progressive regarding circumcision than /b/ is
>>67699550
well if you can argue that it affected you your whole life and led to self esteem and sexual confidence issues, you have a stronger point than physical damages
>>67699944
no just bein a comfy neet desu
never really liked showering
>>67699727
I'm sorry you guys HAD a little skin cut off, and get upset when people do it
I'm sorry I was born not having to be circumcised
I'm sorry you faggots care about another man's penis
>>67696501
Literally complete BS, 8 times a day ez pz.
>tfw so self-conscious about it I sometimes pull all the extra skin right behind the head over top of it and pretend I'm not a victim of the jews
I prefer my full sized 100% penis.
I pity all you cut freaks with the top of your penis chopped off.
Nobody here has it done.
I wood bee pissed at my parents for mutalating
watch that shitty penn and teller episode on the subject it's pretty informative
>>67699903
solid argument
so solid that it can be used to support either side
>>67697281
Not directly. The excised tissue is kept for harvesting fibroblasts, which are then used in skin cream.
>>67699872
>Mudslime
>Advocating the mutilation of children
Guess why we don't want you rapefugees
>>67695697
you should not undermine what god gave you, this sick jewish degenerate tradition should be banned and treated like those african witch doctors who does this to female niglets.
When y ou have fucked enough this string under your cockhead will break, happens to most men at some point, it will hurt a couple of days then it's over("scratches" some a time after though).
Also your forskin might become to tight, then you remove it obviously. These are really rare things. No pervert should be allowed near any baby to cut or meme their genitalias or anything else
Having a foreskin provides a gliding motion along the shaft of the penis that feels incredible pleasure and you can go as fast as you want and not hurt yourself.
Having a mutilated cock is like rubbing a broomstick. Your hand moves against the shaft of the penis, creating friction rather than the gliding motion.
>>67699751
It has no nerve endings and is not an erogenous zone.
>>67699638
there are plenty of other sources in this thread you will conveniently ignore
see
>>67699425
>>67699375
>>67699207
the fact of the matter is that it's genital mutilation, plain and simple
Can't really complain since I never knew what it was like to have foreskin, but the marks of the procedure are still very obvious.
Thanks dad.
>>67699882
Yes?
Foreskin is not vestigial.
>>67698895
Every single woman I've talked to has expressed preference for cut dicks.
So I'm good with my penis.
I didn't get a butchered job, and get plenty of sexual pleasure.
Most of those bitching about decreased sensitivity probably use condoms. Or don't have sex since this is 4chan.
I already want to cum like 1 minute into real sex (no condom), so I'm not too concerned with any decreased sensitivity.
That being said I'm not going to have this done to my children, they can make that choice as adults if they want.
But the "muh foreskin" crowd blows the whole thing completely out of proportion-- when done correctly it's really not that big of a deal aside from aesthetic choice.
>>67699925
>good goy, listen to doctors Moshe and Eli, all they're concerned with is your well-being
>>67700172
>Having a mutilated cock is like rubbing a broomstick. Your hand moves against the shaft of the penis, creating friction rather than the gliding motion.
Not sure if an exception here but my method is literally just that image but in reverse, I cant imagine it like "rubbing a broomstick" that sounds dumb
>>67697248
your not supposede to wash your dick with soap, your killing all the good bacteria
>>67700293
>medicine is jewish
literally anti vaxer tier
>>67700212
All of which are the same tier of retarded bullshit because you anti-vacc retards are incapable of processing information and prefer to deny reality harder than your mum takes the cock.
>>67699925
you have lots of nerves in the foreskin too, retard
its not like normal skin
but you probably dont know it since you dont have one
each time you have sex, just remember its not 100% of what it could have been
you'll forever have subpar sex your whole life
>>67700212
>>67700197
http://thecircumcisiondecision.com/20000-nerve-endings/
now shush the fuck up
>>67700272
>Every single woman I've talked to has expressed preference for cut dicks.
Of course they do. Almost every one they see is circumcised so they see it as normal.
>>67699428
Yeah its pretty awesome, you can't regrow the specialized structures of the foreskin but the difference in sensitivity/pleasure has been huge for me, plus its just fun to grow more skin on your dick and have it get regularly meatier over time. Takes a while though, that picture is of someone who was doing it for 3 years.
Technically it could all be done by hand but to be serious about it its best to buy a device like pic related, the DTR. All one self-contained piece, easy to strap on.
>>67697911
Did he have a general or local anaesthetic?
>>67700272
>Every single woman I've talked to has expressed preference for cut dicks.
>not realizing most women are dumb whores who can't tell the difference between erect cut and uncut dicks
kek
>>67696691
I did too, figured out at 16 that it wasnt working right so took a few weeks of stretching, problem solved
>>67697170
Because it enforces an idea than parents can permanently modify their children and treat them as literal property at will, and that children have no agency until 18 or 21.
If a man has a daughter just to fuck from childhood to adulthood, and a boy just be a literal farm slave how is that any different than ditzy parents following kike recommendations to mutilate their child?
>>67700172
I don't think you understand anatomy. Because cut dicks definitely act like your gif, there just isn't as much excess skin.
>>67697504
What's even crazier is when they act like 100% of all FGM procedures are infibulations done in a back alley or village hut (untrue) and downplay the facts that males experience excruciating pain during the operation and that not all MGM is performed safely in hospitals.
>>67700441
They knocked him out
It's not "circumcision" it's Male Genital Mutilation, call it what it is
>>67700272
Allegory of the Cave, much?
>>67700407
>singapore
apparently it's not subpar sex for your women since they can't stay off american cock
literally had to fight off asian whores with a stick in the clubs there
it's like thailand except instead of prostitutes bothering you it's college girls looking for BWC
Pros:
You won't suffer from phimosis
Cons:
Sex won't feel as good or work as well without lube
Honestly as a burger with foreskin I don't find the practice offensive but there is no good reason not to wait till puberty to decide
>>67700212
To be fair until recently fmg was legal, it just wasn't that common. fuck kikes kellogs and kutting
>>67700197
>It has no nerve endings
>no
That's not how you spell "thousands of"
>>67700395
Your words, not mine.
>>67700272
They prefer what they're used to.
Is there any other part of the body you prefer with scar tissue on it? Would you prefer girls with cut up vaginas if you had the choice?
>>67700455
I think you misunderstood my post. The Eurofag had no idea what was going on and thought most people get circumcised willingly.
>>67700145
This. Jesus abolished the practice of circumcision in the New Testament. It's a disgusting ritual done by the kikes for the kikes.
>>67699207
>even your fap sessions are inferior
There are more reasons to balloon time every day
>>67695697
Please tell me this is fake
>>67700460
The tightness of circumcisions vary greatly. Some are left with much less mobile skin than others.
>mfw Americans mutilate infant cocks because they don't want to shower regularly
Christ guys, remember when /b/ was legion? Figure out who this father that wants to cut off part of kids dick, and then ruin his life on the internet.
Seriously, get the guys name and picture. Photoshop it into goatse picks or onto futas with shitting dicknipples, and post it on any site you can get away with. Make sure all of Florida knows what an asshole this guy is. Make is so he can't even go out for groceries, much less take his kid to the hospital to be mutilated by elective surgery.
Seriously... What the fuck happened to you anon? You used to be so good at this. I thought you were cool.
>>67695697
>any objective pros of circumcision
No, it's a retarded barbaric practice. Who the fuck ever thought, "hey, guys, you know what would be a good idea? Taking a knife to our dicks"? How could something so stupid catch on?
>>67699155
Just so you realize this study
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23937309
Is a review that includes both of the studies you posted in response to it.
>>67700272
does your dick go on the catwalk before you bang a girl?
I was born with a crooked dick so I had to get circumcised for medical reasons
>>67699550
>Pretty sure there's little emotional damage considering you're 8 days old at the time of the procedure and don't remember the trauma.
>trauma isn't trauma if you don't remember it
Every person I've met who's been circumcised that young is extremely neurotic. Many have a persecution-complex and see themselves as victims.
>>67700536
Thanks. I've got phimosis. Hopefully getting it sorted soon, though preferably I can avoid a full snip
>>67696701
>the court ordered her to sign the consent form
Isn't that kinda like the very fucking definition of duress?
Why is she not suing the court?
>>67700455
bbut womens need bodily autonomy
>>67700706
No, they do it because it happened to them and the doctors assure them it's normal and if they don't do it to their child as well then they are a bad parent.
>>67699167
the one on the right looks like an intestine desu
>>67700706
no
circumcision has religious origin and was intended to stop masturbation
>>67700434
Many of these women have had sex in foreign countries, or came to the U.S. as sexually active adults. Still same results.
And even if that were not the case (which it is), why would I be so sad over having a dick that women in my country prefer.
In male human anatomy, the foreskin is a double-layered fold of smooth muscle tissue, blood vessels, neurons, skin, and mucous membrane that covers and protects the glans penis and the urinary meatus when the penis is not erect. It is also described as the prepuce, a technically broader term that also includes the clitoral hood in women, to which the foreskin is embryonically homologous. The highly innervated mucocutaneous zone of the penis occurs near the tip of the foreskin. The foreskin is mobile, fairly stretchable, and acts as a natural lubricant.
The foreskin of adults is typically retractable over the glans. Coverage of the glans in a flaccid and erect state varies depending on foreskin length. The foreskin is attached to the glans at birth and is generally not retractable in infancy.[1] The age at which a boy can retract his foreskin varies, but research found that 95% of males were able to fully retract their foreskin by adulthood.[2] Inability to retract the foreskin in childhood should not be considered a problem unless there are other symptoms.[3]
The World Health Organization debates the precise functions of the foreskin, which may include "keeping the glans moist, protecting the developing penis in utero, or enhancing sexual pleasure due to the presence of nerve receptors".[4]
The foreskin may become subject to a number of pathological conditions.[5] Most conditions are rare, and easily treated. In some cases, particularly with chronic conditions, treatment may include circumcision, a procedure where the foreskin is partially or completely removed.
NOW FUCK OFF
Pro: John Harvey Kellogg is appeased.
Con: The guy who made corn flakes is now a bad guy.
>>67699133
Most Americans with parents in the medical field don't get circumscribed at least from the friends I know.
>>67699425
Really that study is trash honestly, it doesn't take into account the rise of autism which actually has skyrocketed although the amount of circumcisions has gone down, only that kids with autism were circumcised in the Muslim and Jewish communities and spuriously mixes 0 year olds with 9 year olds whos brains are dramatically different.
I did find the correlation between childhood pain and autism interesting though and could be studied more.
>>67700816
The fapping part was Kellogs.
>>67700197
The skin is the least important part of the "foreskin". Skin is cheap, skin is easy, you can put a big ass hoop in your ear to grow skin.. What the foreskn contains is mucosal tissue, dorsal muscles, a ridged band, and the frenulum. The frenulum is the single most sensitive part of the penis. Most cut men retain at least a portion of it. The more mucosaul tissue and fremulum remnant you were left, the luckier you are.
>>67700573
>Sarong Party Girl (also known as SPG) is a derogatory term used in Singapore and (to a lesser extent) in Peninsular Malaysia.
>It describes a local, solely Asian woman (e.g., a Chinese girl) who usually dresses and behaves in a provocative manner, and who exclusively dates and prefers white men.
of course not for the women, is the dick on them? its not as pleasurable for you
not that I care about women sex, I'm gay
>>67700701
Fair enough, but I have zero issue with skin mobility.
I think most of the problems come from incompetent surgeons.
>>67700272
>choice
super, let's give them a choice
also
>I like it, so it's fine
I can't find the image but some anon had a botched snip and to this day has a frankendick.
You must acknowledge that zero risk is better than a small risk. Especially when there's nothing to gain.
you're a big boy, you can make your own decisions
newborn infants are not
>>67700706
this desu
Every time the best argument they have is a it's harder to keep clean. For Christ's sake take a fucking shower.
>>67700427
Good goy. The onion is my favorite source of information, too!
The World Health Organization debates the precise functions of the foreskin, which may include "keeping the glans moist, protecting the developing penis in utero, or enhancing sexual pleasure due to the presence of nerve receptors
The World Health Organization debates the precise functions of the foreskin, which may include "keeping the glans moist, protecting the developing penis in utero, or enhancing sexual pleasure due to the presence of nerve receptors
The World Health Organization debates the precise functions of the foreskin, which may include "keeping the glans moist, protecting the developing penis in utero, or enhancing sexual pleasure due to the presence of nerve receptors
The World Health Organization debates the precise functions of the foreskin, which may include "keeping the glans moist, protecting the developing penis in utero, or enhancing sexual pleasure due to the presence of nerve receptors
There's no reason for having it removed
The arguments for it being more hygienic only apply if you're a complete slob who cannot cleanse himself properly
It's there for a reason, it keeps the bellend from becoming too sensitive and aids in masturbation / sex
The only people for it are circumcized themselves so can only see it from their cut perspective. Sex to them is still sex, they don't know the difference and can never know.
>>67699658
cut your ears ,they are excess of skin aswell
>>67697281
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES KIKES
>>67700706
Half of england did until the 50s, almost all of Australia, Canada, and the US did until the last couple decades. I'm pretty sure we all owe it your damp island
>>67701062
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin pothead mong
>>67697686
This so much, they are missing important nerves their dick is burnt tongue
>>67701026
The problems come from people cutting up dicks of newborn babies.
>>67700706
ppl do it because there's countless peer reviewed studies by medical professionals saying it's beneficial
but of course /pol/ just accuses them of being jewish so it doesn't matter
