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Alright, /pol/. Explain to me why this won't happen.
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Alright, /pol/. Explain to me why this won't happen.
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>>67679383
it will
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Hillary has support from whites, blacks, latinos, upper class, lower class.

Trump has support from lower class middle aged white people - that's it.

Cruz has support from evangelicals, pro-war people, low tax people, whites, blacks, and latinos, middle class and upper class people
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>>67679572
nice meme
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>>67679383
We have 1 million Muslims in MN
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>>67679383
Because it's mathematically impossible.
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>>67679668
Look up the exit polls.
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>the republicans can win an overwhelming majority of the geographical united states and still get cucked by tiny and delegate-rich democratic strongholds

FUCKING HELL AMERICA GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
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>>67679572>>67679709
You fags must be proud
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>Minnesota
>not full of cuckolds

OP is from Minnesota and delusional from all the muslim dick and aids, entire map disregarded
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Demographics don't add up for him. He needs 70% of whites, and 40% of whites are straight blue. He has no appeal outside of the 60% of Republicans that would back him in november.

How many times do we have to go through this?
>no guys, UKIP has it in the bag, can't barrage the Farage!
>no guys, s-seriously, France will be "Free" again, just look at Marine Le Pen!
>SWEDEN DEMOCRATS WILL RISE AGAIN!
>GERMANY NO!!
Face it. You've lost. All you can do now is fight back.
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>>67679572
build wall juliano
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>>67679709
Jesus Christ I didnt know it had gotten that bad
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>>67679383
>Minnesota ever going red
>New York is iffy
>Not too sure about North Carolina after last night

Other than that, it's believable.
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>>67679934
We got 2 Zionist Shills running thing's 1 is actually Jewish
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>>67679877
The Electoral College makes highly-populated states less influential compared to states with low populations
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>>67679974
Sweden Democrats are the most popular party, Le Pen election hasn't happened, and Trump statistically has non-white and some white Dem support.

I genuinely hope this was a shitpost.
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>>67679974
I'm not so sure about that.
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>>67679572
>Trump is well on his way to owning the identities of American, Alpha Males, and Women Who Like Alpha Males. Clinton is well on her way to owning the identities of angry women, beta males, immigrants, and disenfranchised minorities.

>If this were poker, which hand looks stronger to you for a national election?

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/141146589216/clinton-versus-trump
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>>67679383
NEGRO
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OREGON
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>>67679572
fuck off, Paddy
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>>67679383
Nj can go red...
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>>67680106
Sweden Democrats are he mostp opular party nobody fucking voted for, the Le Pen elections did, in actuality, happen, and the entire party lost its shit when they took zero seats.

Trump has statistically insignificant non-white voters, and statistically insignificant white Dem support -- 8% of 20% of the Dem party thinking of voting for trump because Sanders lost.

Oh, and they barely ever vote, anyway. Good luck with that.

Trump is good as stumped. This is not a troll post, or a shitpost. I said this when Romney was running, I said it on /new/ when McCain was running. No demographic in industrialized nations favors nationalist fervor. Not even fucking Finland.
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>>67679383

because you're an underage child who is clearly voting in his first election.

>NY
>PA
>WI
>MN
>OH
>CO
>FL
>red

ALL OF MY KEK
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>>67679383
because new york and michigan will never, ever be red again
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>>67680532
Ohio could easily go red
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>>67679572
Cruz has support from fewer people than Trump, hence why he is a loser.
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>>67679877
It's almost as if each adult gets a single vote.
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>>67680836
Trump needs every swingstate, not just Ohio.

The full blue states are enough to damn near win with, so much so that one single swing state gives Dems enough for a majority.
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Current statistics are warped by the amount of people that were originally democrat, but purposefully vote for candidates they believe will beat Trump.
Minnesota and Ohio both found this to be extremely common.
Not only that, but Hillary Clinton has held back on some much rhetoric to use against republicans and Trump for the sake of not being (rightfully in my opinion) refuted on those specific beliefs and promised courses of action. That being said anyone claiming to know how this election will go just off of the events thus far must have had their memory prior to 2013 erased or something along those lines.
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>>67680234
Holy shit Obama really fucked up
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>>67679383
awww, it's cute
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>>67681165
WE pretty much knew Dems were going to take a major hit in 2012. Pretty much as soon as Dems started trying to pretend they were actually Republicans, really.
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>>67679572
>Trump has support from lower class middle aged white people - that's it.

Not true. That's what media shills have been saying from the start, but exit-polls tell another story, Manfredo. Trump has built a coalition by splitting and taking over half of evangelicals, military voters, blue collar whites (including former democrats and independents), young and college students (who vote republican) as well as old and less-educated voters, and even does well amongst republican women, blacks and Hispanics.

He has no more problem winning women, young, black, and Hispanic voters in the general than Cruz, but is more likely to get people to turn out and to draw independents and working class white democrats.

This election will come down to turnout, not to winning demographics. The Democrats have pretty much lost white Americans, as much as the gop has lost Hispanics and blacks. Women tend to skew slightly left, but this is cancelled out by men skewing slightly right.

The demographics are basically locked in, no democrat will ever win evangelicals, no republican will ever win ghettoites, so it comes down to turnout

Whose demos will turn out, and whose will stay home? Well, republican primary turnout has been much higher than demoshit primary turnout, and a bitter bernie defeat may very well lead to berntards staying home. Blacks turned out in record numbers for the first black prezdent but, though hillary wins among blacks who turnout, she is not drawing huge numbers from any demo. Muh vagina is not working as well as muh melanin did in '08 and '12.

This will be an easy win unless the gop shoots itself in the foot by, say, denying Donald Trump the nomination, in the process pissing off his supporters (decreasing turnout), ditching his ability to draw new voters, independents, and white democrats, and putting up somebody that nobody likes (Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, Jeb, Mitt, none of these will make a plausible alternative to Trump)
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>>67681165
And to respond to OP's Pic, Hillary was a New York Senator so I really don't believe that there is much of a chance that Trump is going to win based on the opinions of upstate New Yorkers. I have seen people suggest this and they don't make much sense to me.
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>>67680234
>>67681207
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-driven-people-polls/story?id=37588568

>According to records from the Florida Department of State, the number of Republicans registered in time to vote in the primary has gone up just over 3 percent since the 2012 election, increasing from 4,137,890 to 4,276,104.
>Democrats, however, have seen a slight drop during that same period. Even though there was no primary election in 2012 for the Democrats, the number of Florida residents registered as Democrats has since dropped by 0.2 percent, from 4,581,056 to 4,569,788.

>In Illinois, a total number of 7,650,749 people are registered to vote this year, with an additional 346,416 people registering since 2012, according to state records.
>However, only 23 percent of the registered electorate voted in the 2012 primary, 56 percent of whom went for Republicans and 43 percent of whom went for Democrats, even though there wasn’t a formal contender against President Obama.


>Republicans aren’t the only ones who've seen an increase, however. Democrats had a 101 percent increase in the number of votes in this year’s Michigan primary compared to the 2008 race. Even though the number of votes that Hillary Clinton secured went up by 247,203 between the 2008 primary, which she ended up winning, and this year’s primary, she ended up losing to Sen.
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>>67681301
NV goes blue, Ohio, Iowa goes Red
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>>67681301
Probably more accurate because of your Minnesota and Colorado picks that OP was just wrong about in my opinion. As well as Pennsylvania and Michigan going blue who have not even been Red once in my lifetime is logical. Ohio could go red considering they voted for for 3 George Bush terms. Other than that you have it being close which is more realistic.
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>>67681884
I doubt, It's only the primary but Trump lost Ohio and Iowa
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>>67680030

Muslims breed like rabbits.
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Where do you guys think I went wrong?

I don't know much about the states to the west other than the ones on the coast
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>>67679383
>New Jersey
>Blue

>New Mexico
>Blue

>Oregon
>Blue
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>>67679572
>Mexican
>Wait... it is Italy not Mexican

Please stop confuse me, you shitlord
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>>67682007
I'm not sure for weedorado tho
>>67682220
Realistic
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>>67682220
Missouriisn't going red and Colorado is DUDE WEED now, with what, 41 million dollar slush funds pouring into their schools in less than two years...without raising taxes on most people.
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>>67682711
Colorado is definitely going blue
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>>67682220
Best one so far except you have Colorado as red which just confuses me.
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>>67682998
Pretty sure Trump has said he would keep weed being the decision of the state. But I think hes going to adopt a pro-weed for JOBS stance after this GOP shit is over.
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all these normal maps

this is a realigning election, you know
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It all comes down to Ohio, this is the most logical one I can think of, because Ohioans at the end of the day really just don't like Donald Trump as far as moderates and democrats who slightly dislike Hillary go.
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Never thought about this until now.

How did Michigan get this piece of land?
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>>67683637
we don't talk about that.
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>>67683637
Michigan fought a war with Ohio (the Toledo war) over ownership of a small strip of land on the MI-OH border marked by the city of Toledo. Michigan lost, but they were compensated by gaining the UP territory which was at that time thought to be much smaller. It turned out to have the largest copper reserves in the entire world, worth trillions of dollars, and the capital of MI was almost the village of Calumet in the Keweenaw.

Today the UP makes up only 3% of Michigan's population and has to suffer from democrat rule rather than becoming part of a more culturally related state.
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>>67679383
>Minnesota
>Wisconsin
>red

wew
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>>67680532
Wisconsin will go red, friendo.
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>>67679877
Didn't UKIP become the 3rd largest party in Great Britain while only having 1 seat?
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>>67679937
>Minnesota
>Historically, Swedish Americans have been concentrated in the Midwest, roughly in the area west and northwest of Chicago. Many of them came to Minnesota. A contingent also settled in the woods of northern Maine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Americans
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>>67680269
Based Scott Adams
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>>67679383
How about you explain first how that could happen. i insist.
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>>67683637
>>67683914

Yooper here, can confirm that we are redpilled as fuck and have a burning hatred for the rest of Michigan
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>>67685922
Has Wisconsin ever tried to make the claim it should go to them since the war?
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>>67686117
Or maybe even you guys? It's affecting our map aesthetics so this goes beyond just your states.
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>>67685922
But you are almost in Canada
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>>67686117
From what I remember my polisci teacher told me in high school, WI just didn't want it at all.
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>>67686323
The culture here is much like rural Wisconsin, the only Canadian-like trait we really have is a similar accent. And maybe a love for Labatt's
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>>67686832
not fan of Labatt Blue
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>>67679829
>look up exit polls

Look up the actual votes Trump has a broad appeal among a variety of democratics.
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>>67687396
bernie bros hopping on the trump train now.
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>>67680532

NY will go Red
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>>67679383
There's like twice as many Democrats than there are Republicans in New York.

Even California has a higher chance of turning red.
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>>67679383
Because Trump can't get more than 50% of the support from his own party.
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>>67680234
Did you see the exiting polling? In any state with open primaries you saw the Democrats casting their vote for a Republican Candidate against Trump. It's the main reason Kasaek won Ohio so handedly and numbers are skewed in favor of Republicans, you had between a sixth or fifth of Dems crossing party lines to vote against Trump. Also comparing it to 2008 is pretty damn biased because it was a watershed year with Bush leaving office and Obama verses Clinton.

Also you're not seeing an uptick in voter registrations, which means all Trump is really only bringing Republicans who only vote in the general to vote in the primary.

>>67682007
No way in hell Michigan is going red this election cycle after they were made a national disgrace with what the governor did in Flint and the cover up that followed. Poisoning an entire town of children is on a whole other level compared to cookie cutter kickbacks. Also the auto industry isn't going to return so Trump's rhetoric means nothing.


>>67687396
Only in trade policy, and Bush being an utter fuck up. They disagree with him on just about every other major platform and also on the way he and his supporters are presenting themselves. Also you have Republicans saying they'd rather support a Democrat (Clinton included over Trump)
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>>67679526
First Post Best Post
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>>67681884
Iowa will not go red if Trump's the nominee. This state is filled to the brim with cuckservatives.
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>>67679383
republicans cant into information technology

get out the vote targeting will put ny, pa, oh, co, & florida in the dem column
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>>67679383
Because it's just as ludicrous to say Wyoming and Alabama will vote for Hillary.
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>>67680234
That doesn't mean anything. Trump is widely hated even in his "own party".
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>>67688332
>NY senator v NY businessman
hard to say, both have homestate advantage
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>>67679877
Wow it's almost as if elections are decided by votes, and not square miles of land.
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>>67691546
bullshit
in the US every dollar gets a vote
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>>67691691
Good point, but it still doesn't support that britcuck's shitty post
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>>67691856
agreed, fuck britcuck
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>>67690394
>Basing your opinion on the loud butthurt establishment cucks

Wew.
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>>67679572
If Cruz has all of that support, why can't he beat Trump?
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http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
http://strawpoll.me/7099053/
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>>67683637
delete this
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>>67693838
where is bernie you fucking cuck
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>>67684898
Well, that explains why they imported thousands of Somalians.

The love for black cock must be genetic!
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>>67693838
Jim Webb is he wants more moderate votes. Rand Paul if he wants to have a possibly crazy person replace him after assassination.
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>>67679937
>just noticed DC was blue for this
Heh
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>>67680532
ohio pa ny fl and wi are all def going red for trump
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