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Daily reminder to vote NO in april
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>>67656818
>tfw D66 gets trips to Ukraine paid for by oligarchs

If you needed any more reasons to vote against, here's another.
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>Ukraine

Gross.
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>>67656818
Forgot to vote desu.
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Voting no purely to piss of D66
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Doesn't seem to be something showing up in public much. Minimal mentions.
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>>67657458
MSM wants to keep turnout below 30% so they won't mention it.
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>>67657458
Until like a day before we got the 300000 signatures, the NOS hadn't ran a single story on it beyond "kieskomissie moet meer personeel aannemen"
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>>67657553
Wonder if that can be changed.
If Wilders started going on about it and mobilized anyone that voted PVV, the left would be forced to make it public to show how 'important' it is to vote yes.
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I doubt there will be enough people will vote to get it passed, but I will do my part at least and hope for the best. Not like it will make much of a difference if we do get our way, but it's a first step to show some resistance to the EU dominance.
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>>67657794
Wilders (as well as the SP surprisingly) have gone on record supporting the referendum. D66 also supports it, but only because they cucked themselves by being pro-referenda earlier.

Wilders doesn't have much of a media outlet on his own. The MSM reports on Wilders what they want to report, and ignores the rest. Any statement on this by Wilders will just be ignored.
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On the one hand, I'd like more based Eastern Euro bro's in the EU. On the other hand, the EU sucks, and I don't wish it on Eastern Europe. And very important: The EU will be pissed off by a NO vote, and the tantrums they've thus far thrown make me fear they will be incredibly smug if it's a YES.

So I suppose it has to be a NO. Anything to frustrate the EU.
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>mfw the MH17 investigation is being deliberately held up by the government until after the referendum
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>>67656818
sorry you cant leave aquafresh :(
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>>67660160
One day, Britbro, one day.
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>>67660160
This isn't about us leaving, it's about hohols joining
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>>67658400
>D66 also supports it, but only because they cucked themselves by being pro-referenda earlier.

This is the baffling thing about politics. They brought this law into being and... just expected that no-one would actually use it? Only to get extremely butthurt when they did? How stupid are these people?
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anyone know if we have an actual chance of getting geert wilders elected and leaving the EU some day?
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>>67658221
Currently it looks like there'll be enough turnout and a majority no vote. Make sure to mobilize friends and family to vote though. If they're half as pissed at the establishment as mine is they'll do it.
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>>67661068
He is ahead in the polls, I think.
It's going to be hard for him to pull together a coalition, tho.
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>>67661489
My family are all PVV supporters so all I have to do is remind them. We can make this thing happen.
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>>67656818
Wanneer zouden de stempassen binnen moeten komen?
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>>67661877
Ik kreeg de mijne gisteren (in Utrecht).
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>>67661877
Nu ongeveer, maar het verschilt. Ik heb de mijne al binnen (Zeist).
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>>67661489
75% "no" votes in recent polls.
>http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2016/01/09/driekwart-kiezer-zegt-nee-tegen-verdrag-met-oekraine
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>>67656818

Who the fuck wants another Greece? The Ukrainiggers are already travelling to the Netherlands to pick up their free 3500 euro for the trip back.
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I think it's fucking bullshit, so much money and manpower going into letting the whole population vote for something that doesn't even directly effect us.. Why didn't they just let the tweede kamer vote for this one like always?
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>>67658896
>based Eastern Euro
wtf are you talking about? they're the trash of europe.
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>>67661998
There was a more recent one iirc, with lower no vote, 60-something% iirc. And 37% saying they were going to vote. Let me see if I can dig it up.
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I think it's fucking bullshit, so much money and manpower going into letting the whole dutch population vote for something that doesn't even directly effect us. Why didn't they just let the tweede kamer vote for this one?
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>>67660160

Oh we're leaving in 2017, this is just to prevent Ukraine from sucking us dry before we do.
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>>67662180
>doesn't even directly effect us
a bigger EU, with more fucked up countries like Ukraine will definitely affect us
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>>67662439
for >>67662404
>Why didn't they just let the tweede kamer vote for this one?
because those are all pro EU shills
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>>67656818
I wanna vote yes cus fuck Russia.
Why should I vote no? If we don't like the EU then lest have a referendum about the EU.
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>>67662180
>doesn't directly affect us

Seriously? Ukraine is in worse financial shape than Greece. They've cut up their ties with Russia, destroyed their economy and now come to the EU to hold up their hands for bailouts that won't work, just like in Greece.

Additionally, Ukraine is a country in civil war and in conflict with Russia. We should not fuel the fire by pulling Ukraine towards the EU and NATO.

Furthermore, Ukrainians will get visa-free travel. Meaning the lower end of the job market will get even more saturated with cheap workers. We've already got a shitload of fugees on our hands and we hardly have space or money for them. You want to bring a potential 44 million more economic migrants into the mix?

This does directly affect you. It affects every EU citizen. Vote against.
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>>67662663
I want you to vote yes though.
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>>67662663
more terribly countries in the EU = we'll have to pay even more (contribution to EU) and all that money will go to unfuck those countries, except they're not unfuckable.
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>>67662663

If you want an EU/RU war, vote yes. This is the next step in the Jewish plot, to start another world war.

Also those niggers are already receiving millions in handouts before they're even in a trade agreement.
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>>67656818
Ik ben genaaid hier man. Moest blijkbaar voor 24 februari een stembiljet aanvragen. Ze hebben het zo moeilijk mogelijk gemaakt voor iedereen om te stemmen. In binnen EN buitenland.
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>>67662826
>>67662826
You should kill the EU, bring more shit countries.
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>>67662924
hoe is het leven in Finland? is het weer/zon situatie echt zo slecht als dat ze zeggen?

>>67662986
just stop it from getting worse so we can take out time to get ourselves out of it
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>>67662924

Hoezo aanvragen? Dit is toch een publiek referendum?
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>>67661998
Here we go
http://www.volkskrant.nl/politiek/nee-kamp-referendum-oekraine-op-riante-voorsprong~a4261625/

57% against vs 43% for the treaty of those saying they're going to vote. 37% have mentioned that they will vote "for sure".
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>going to vote no
>so will my parents

Feels pretty good
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>>67657272
>aruba
sounds like something a mexican would shout to a prostitute tbqh senpai
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>>67663098
In het buitenland moet je weer een apart formulier aanvragen. Dat mensen hun stem uitbrengen moeten we niet willen met zn allen, dus laten we het zo moeilijk mogelijk maken.

>>67663178
>tfw parents, possibly grandparents and inlaws will vote no
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moet je dat aanvragen om te stemmen? , ik dacht dat je het op bepaalde locaties binnen je gemeente kon stemmen? , iets meer duidelijkheid hierover?
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>>67663249
No, it's a Dutch colony
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>>67662884
So what? Ukraine has a lot people who are far right. They can help us against the Jews and the rapefugese
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>>67663306
Als je in Nederland woont, alsin het europese deel van het koninkrijk, krijg je je pas thuisgestuurd. Je hoeft niks te doen.

Woon je in de koloniën of elders in het buitenland dan moet je een apart formulier aanvragen.
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>>67663320
just googled it seems pretty comfy
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>>67663306
Je krijgt een stempas in Nederland, buiten Nederland moet je een stemformulier aanvragen.
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>>67663363
>far right
fuck off mate, ukraine is full of alcoholic men and prostitute women and single moms. all of which will drain welfare.
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>>67662415
BULLSHIT YOU ARE

Netherlands is a cuck leftist shithole, you aren't leaving the EU ANYTIME SOON
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>>67663056
Het weer is prima. Vriest veel maar dat kunnen we wel hebben en de dagen worden merkbaar langer nu. Redelijk veel nigs in helsinki en er lopen hier door de omgeving wat syriers rond die niets te doen hebben. Zag er een paar die voor het eerst schaatsles kregen.
Hilarisch maar verder nergens goed voor.
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>>67656818
Let's get Ukraine in and make the Visegrad 4 a Visegrad 5
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>>67662404
Sterf, sossenshill
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>>67656818
Punt vooral is is dat het toch niks uitmaakt. Het is een adviserend referendum. Dus de politiek zal toch niet luisteren en ook al deden ze dat maakte het toch niet uit want het verdrag is al getekend
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>>67663438
Yeah a friend of mine lives on Bonaire and she says it's pretty comfy
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>>67662884
> If you want an EU/RU war, vote yes.

State it like this. And then mention Ukraine has been Russian pretty much forever, and we only get the shit part without industry.

I had two 55+ers who hadn't really given it any thought yet decide on 'no' with this info.
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What does voting no do exactly?
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>>67663363

Are you stupid? These are the same people who come from Ukraine to the netherlands to ABUSE the refugee return money system.

http://daskapital.nl/2016/02/misbruik_vertrekpremies.html
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>>67663551

I don't really care either way, I'm saving up to move to America. Fuck this country.
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>>67663648
Als wij 'nee' stemmen en de overheid ondertekent toch het verdrag, zou dat betekenen dat ze de volgende verkiezingen op een presenteerblaadje aan de PVV overhandigen.
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>>67663648
Het gaat erom dat er een boodschap wordt uitgezonden. Als je niks doet omdat het toch niks wordt, wordt het ook niks.
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>>67663739
Give off a signal that will then be ignored because officially the government has already agreed to the plan.
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>>67662884
Russia shill fuck off.
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>>67663648
Een meerderheid van de TK heeft aangegeven de uitslag te zullen respecteren. Zelfs de PvdA. Nou draaien die wel vaker, maar dat zou in dit geval politieke zelfmoord kunnen wezen.

Of ze gehoorzamen een nee, dan is er kans op een kabinetscrisis, want de VVD is pro-UKR.

Als er een geldig nee uitkomt komt verliest het huidige kabinet sowieso geloofwaardigheid en aanzien, of ze het verdrag nu doorscheuren of doordrukken.
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>>67663815

Oh look, everyone's favorite Israeli puppet came to play. What's up nazi? Burned many jews today?
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before any of you vote "yes"

watch this documentary on Odessa:
https://youtu.be/8wW7c58nMI4
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>>67663908
Goed punt. Ben overtuigd. Zal nee stemmen
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>>67663739
Nothing.

BUT at least it is official that the dutch people disagree with current policies being pushed by people we did not vote for. Also it helps to excite the silent minority into rebellion bc the people are simply ignored.
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>>67662180
>so much money and manpower
Yeah it would've been cheaper if politicians just listened to their electorate.
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>>67663908
>PvdA.
>politieke zelfmoord

Gast, ze zijn al fucking dood. Alleen nog ff van de beademing af.
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>>67663815
NATO shill fuck off. Cooperation between the northern EU and Russia would be a godsend. Germany has a massive industrial base, Russia has a shitload of raw resources. a German/Russian alliance would blow the US out of the water as the world's superpower, which is why they keep us divided through NATO.
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Dat verdrag boeit me geen ene kanker, ik wil gewoon de tranen van Pechtoldje zien.

NEE
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>>67664077
so if you vote "No" then the hohols are not going to be in the EU?
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>>67662986
This is about destroying the EU. If they ignore the referendum they show our democracy is broken, if they don't do the treaty with Ukraine the plans of EU expansion is stopped.
Win/Win as long as we vote NO
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>>67664124
Inderdaad, als ze tegen hun woord in een Nee niet respecteren verdwijnen die laatste 8-9 zeteltjes als sneeuw voor de zon.
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>>67664188
It's not a binding referendum. Our government can choose to ignore the will of the people (like they did 10 years ago on the EU constitution) and commit political suicide.
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What's the TL;DR of this referendum?

YES?
NO?

What is each side voting for or against?
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>>67656818
theres a very likely possibility that western

ukraine Galica and Volhynia will secede from

Ukraine and join poland because those lands

were originally belonged to poland ,theres not

doubt its a failed state and this scenario is

imminent.
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>>67664422
Trade Agreement with Jewkraine
Which might end in Ukraine entering the EU
Nice triple dubs
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>>67664188
It will mean certain parts of the treaty are considered void. Knowing the EU, they will find another way to get what they want; it's what they do. They have never and will never listen to the people.

It will be a major fuck you to an extremely unpopular government and a very unpopular EU, though.
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>>67664422
YES: Europe gives money to ukrain
NO: Europe still gives money to ukrain but we said we didnt want to
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>>67664422
Treaty of association between EU and Ukraine. Contains free trade and political/financial/military cooperation.

EU shills like it because it pulls Ukraine towards the EU, and more EU is always better right?

Those who are against see a second Greece waiting to happen financially, and an armed conflict with Russia that might escalate, as well as the entire lack of democracy gig the EU has going on, basically the same reasons you lot want out.
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Friet of Patat?
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>>67664475
Intredasting. Any sources on that?
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>>67664696
friet
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>>67656818
Whole family authorized me to vote for them. 4 big fat NO!'s incoming.
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>>67662303
>>67663106
Haven't seen these stats yet.
Still I'm hopeful the vote will result in a NO.
From what I've seen the NO-camp are campaigning a lot more than the YES-camp
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>>67663458
dank voor de opheldering
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>>67664696
Doe maar pils!
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>>67664968
They are. The Yes camp has a turnout dilemma. They can either stay quiet and hope nobody will vote (at most 30%). Or they can campaign for people to vote Yes, in which case they need decent arguments to convince people. They don't have those besides muh poor hohols, fuck putin.
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>>67659467
Do you have any evidence for that or is this a hunch?

http://docdro.id/SolnhUN
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>>67664738
google it , i mean there are multiple factors that
might make this happen number one the large polish population living in those areas and also the fact that ukrainians are sick and tired of the bullshit thats going on in their country and for some reason they desperately want to be in the EU so if they run a referendum they can have the best of both worlds.
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>>67656818

Can you explain why Netherlands gets to decide on Ukraine, but other countries don;t?

I really don't understand the EU.
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>>67664968
I noticed lately that NPO is starting to throw in YES!items thanks to the polls earlier mentioned.

http://www.npo.nl/nieuwsuur/05-03-2016/VPWON_1248398
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>>67665454
All countries separately have to agree to the EU treaty with Ukrain. Apparently all did. Including the netherlands. But we have a referendum thing. If 300.000 signatures (or something like that) are fixed they have to organize a referendum in which the dutch can 'advise' the government on it. Which they can ignore. And will. Because they have actually already signed the agreement.
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>>67665454
we had to fight for this referendum, against out government.
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>>67665341
I thought it was a pdf :{))
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>>67665454
also
>>67665725
Theyre trying to undermine the referendum. If there is less than 30% turnout the result isnt valid anyways. So there is nothing about it on the news. Amount of places to vote was severely reduced etc etc
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>>67665454
We have a law that states a popular movement can gather signatures (300 000 minimum) and can force a referendum on recently passed laws.

The government actively advocates a yes vote, while the no vote is a movement led by a popular right-wing blog and a movement of anti-EU intellectuals.
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>>67658896
The only based eastern euro is Russia the other ones are trash so stop shittalking and vote NO ffs
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>>67664696
Gefrituurde aardappelstrookjes
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>>67665959
>Russia
>Based
Not since the Communists m8
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what if geenpijl is russian funded though? what if?
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What is the referendum about?
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>>67656979
>tfw there's 'Dutch' people on /pol/ actually shilling for D66

Reminder that any D66 shill is a turk
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>>67663799
haha same for me, I got an interview for a green card in 3 weeks. Europe and Canada are currently in shit, you're making a good call.
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>>67665170
These people always cry the hardest, but when it's time to actually do something about it, the turnout is shit.

>>67665626
Good thing that most people watching TV here nowadays are lazy people who are too lazy to actually get their ass to a voting booth
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>>67661877
gister mijne gekregen
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>>67666128
>Turken stemmen niet voor de PVV
"Geïntegreerd" m'n reet.
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>>67663908
Maar geen van beiden kan een kabinetskrisis hebben. Zeker de PVDA niet. Als er nu opnieuw gestemd moet worden weten ze allemaal wie er aan de macht komt. En dat laten ze never nooit gebeuren.
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>>67666084
They don't but even if they did, does it really matter? We're voting against the interests of Brussels, not against that of our own country.

Brussels only cares about Brussels, Berlin, and Washington.
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>>67665980
>>67664930
>>67664696

Kom op zeg, waarom moet er, zodra er een onderwerp over Nederland verschijnt, meteen weer gefrituurd voedsel bij gehaald worden?

Dit is een serieuze zaak, mensen.
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>>67666056
Are you retarded? Because you can't be serious. Russia has like 7th biggest world economy and still fucks the eu and usa up.

All the other eastern euro countries are getting cucked by western European politicians
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>>67666289
>>67666289
yeah I guess, but what happens next? I know the whole Ukraine things is US/EU control on Russian pipelines that go through Ukraine.

>>67666395
je kan toch geen serieuze zaken bespreken op een lege maag?
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>>67666253
Ik heb de mijne ook al.
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>>67666289
>Brussels only cares about Brussels
No, Brussels dislikes Brussels.
They keep importing Francophone Algerians to even shift the lingua franca to French more than it already is.
>>67666395
Wij zijn de Ameriklappers van Europa.
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>>67666586
>Wij zijn de Ameriklappers van Europa.
niet waar, we zijn niet dik.
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>>67666128
>d66
>SP
godverdomme, dezelfde teringlijers stemmen rechts in Turkije. Verwijder, verwijder ze allemaal.
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>>67656818
Since when do you get to vote for things concerning the EU?

Here we just take everything up the ass straight from Brussels
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>>67666633
Dubs of truth

>All Americans are fat
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>>67657272
Are the island inhabitants eligible to vote?
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>>67666754
I'd assume so, they are Dutch citizens.
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>>67665341
>>67665795
The Dutch government has repeatedly refused to obtain available satellite images from the moment of the attack from several governments. The images are there, the only thing that needs to be done for them to be released is put in an official request. IIRC, the US government has already agreed to release the images from their satellites, but only after a request.

The guy in the pic of my previous post is Louis Bontes, one of the only politicians fighting for the release of the images. He called out our PM on this earlier this month. Rutte laughed it off and didn't answer. The government won't even give a reason for not requesting the images, though. They just stay silent, laugh, deflect, and pretend the suspicion around this investigation is all a big unwarranted joke.

Is the fact that a non-disclosure agreement was signed really relevant here? You can't disclose anything if you don't have the information, after all.

If the investigation would be jeopardised they could at least let the public know that. Not giving any information whatsoever without a reason seems suspect, given we already know possibly crucial pieces of evidence are essentially freely available.

It seems the government is simply unwilling to obtain more evidence. I believe they've now said the investigation will not continue until summer, so possible evidence of Ukraine playing a part in the MH17 attack will conveniently not be able to influence the referendum.
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>>67666754
Yeah i guess its their money as well. Assuming they have any in the first place. Athough probably the shipment of voter ballots will get conveniently lost at sea or something.
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>>67666510
They'll find a new way to implement the agreement in a way that makes it impossible for the people to block it, EU constitution all over again. Assuming the government actually honours the outcome of the vote, which isn't set in stone.

Either way though, it's good to vote no. A no vote won't stop the agreement from being implemented, but it will cause considerable damage to the establishment.
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>>67666826
Only Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba
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Heeft er iemand al een stem pas?
Ik niet.
K A N K E R
A
N
K
E
R
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>>67666826
I doubt most would bother though.

>>67666128
Went to a raadsvergadering not too long ago.
D66ers are borderline retarded. It happened a few times they asked someone to explain himself moments after he explained himself.
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>>67665686
>>67665860

Thanks for the expliantion.

So Ukraine has been accepted into the EU and you oppose it?

I didn't know they had got that far with membership. If they enter they are so fucked form both sides. I actually feel bad for the Holhols.
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It doesn't fucking matter what you vote for, Germany wants more cheap workers which it will get, and it doesn't care if Europe will be destroyed in the process.
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>>67667322
FUCKING GERMANY!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


kanker moffen moeten altijd alles verneuken
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>>67667299
It's not membership, it's an association treaty. Basically, it's step one towards membership. It deals with removing trade barriers, military cooperation, implementing EU law into Ukraine, etc. Stuff like that.

Mind you, it's this very treaty that started the whole conflict in Ukraine. The pro-Russians in Ukraine went to war over it.
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>>67656818
Vote yes for this shape and cute ukrainian girls
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>>67664539
>Uki enters EU
>h-help EU, we need munnies
>WE BROKE YOU DUMBASS
>h-help North western EU, we need munnies!
>Okay, here is a billion buckaroos
>next year rinse and repeat
Fuck off
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>>67667437
>>67667299
also it means anti-russian (EU/USA) military bases in Ukraine, to bully Russia even more, and a grasp on Russia's pipelines that go through Ukraine.
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>>67667526
>cute ukrainian girls
betafag retards like you need to watch this:
https://youtu.be/8wW7c58nMI4
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>>67667526
>de Krim zit er nog bij
Een taak.
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>>67656818
Daily reminder to not vote like a chicken with its head cut off and wait for the actual debates, you low-information voter.
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>>67666691
Government is just going to ignore desu
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Keep ukraine out of the EU
We dont need ukraine flooded with muslims and niggers
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>>67667545
>Ukraine enters EU
>UK leaves EU
>NL leaves EU
>CZ leaves EU
>Poland leaves EU
>Algeria joins EU
>Morocco joins EU
>Turkey joins EU
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>>67667227
Ik ook niet godverdomme
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>>67667754
>We
fuck off, africa
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>>67667563
Ukraine and russia need to sign a peace agreement
Only george soros wants a russia-ukraine war
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Godverdomme
Kan dit kabinet niet gewoon even omvallen
Wat een incapabele lullos hebben wij toch als overheid
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>>67667722
I'd vote to leave the EU at any point I could.
All I need to know is that this pisses the EU off, so I'll vote no.

The actual arguments are fine too, but in all honesty I couldn't care less.
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http://politiek.tpo.nl/2016/03/16/vrienden-nederland-verraad-oekraine/

I like how every argument for a 'yes' is immediately debunked by 'no'
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>>67667921
Trump needs to fist fight Soros, and rid the world of the globalist scum
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>ukraine
>ukrainian
no such thing
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>>67667722
Or you can just read the treaty and form your own opinion.

Do you really need the jokes we have for elites to form an opinion for you?
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>>67667921
Reminder that Soros literally funds the Yes camp for this referendum.

VOTE NO
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Misschien toch maar ja stemmen
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>>67668011
We agree
Our government doesn't
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>>67667813
>Implicerend dat het wat zal uitmaken
>Implicerend dat het referendum niet gewoon voor de show is.
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CAN WE PLEASE ALLY WITH RUSSIA TO REMOVE KEBAB AND TAKE OUT THE AMERICAN DICK UP OUR ASS?
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Hey toothpaste, can I immigrate to your country? I want to learn to speak with a potato in my throat like you guys do
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Please vote NO. Ukraine doesn't need any Muhammads and Mahmets. You faggots can take them instead like you've been doing.
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>>67668078
Verwijder randstad
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>>67668205
fuck of africa, we're full
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>>67668243
but I'll vote for the good guys
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>>67668221
We actually want Ukraine to go Fuck themselves
But we also hate the EU
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>>67668205
You confuse us with the Danes, I'm afraid. Don't worry, Americans do that often.
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>>67668296
>implying americans know democracy
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I'm voting NO just to spite those fucking D66 idiots.
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>>67668078
>Eindhoven safe
I'm OK with this.
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>>67668335
I don't think so. I performed the heimlich maneuver on the first Dutch guy I met as I thought he was choking. The second Dutch guy I met was some bum asking me for a euro to buy fries with a heap of mayonnaise. What the fuck?
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Wat gaan we doen aan het Limburg probleem?
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>>67656818
Go fuck yourself ivan, Fuck russia, Fuck the eternal RUS, and most of all Fuck putler
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>>67668544
>Noord Holland
>Arab
>Utrecht
>Black
Verwijder Randstad

>Flevoland incl. Almere
>Dutch
wat
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>>67668544
Aan Duitsland geven
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>>67668544
they're just gay
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>>67668544
belgie - wallonie bij ons, limburg bij wallonie.
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>>67656818
ARM THE UKRAINIANS
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>>67668787
fuck off mccain
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>>67668627
> fuck putler

Abdel spotted
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>>67668627
>Implying the dutch do not want to help their Russian friends
>Implying the Russo-Dutch friendship isn't the most beautiful on earth
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>>67668544
Ohhhh noooo wat gaan we doen?
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>>67668895
>tfw no Tsar to be obsessed by your republic, going as far as to change the flag of Russia to one inspired by the Dutch Flag
;_;
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>>67668895
>dutch
You're not dutch, you're a disgusting finno-ugric subhuman scum, kill yourself
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>>67669073
You're not Frankish either, that wuz we.
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>>67668318

I just can't wait for their parliament to be executed.
It doesn't need the EU not Russia. If they can get rid of the all the retards in power, they can manage to be without all the bullshit surrounding their boarders. And when I say all, I mean all, not one or two - but all.
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>>67669073
I am of Frankish decent Pham i can trace back my lineage to Karel the great
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>>67669073
>>67669319
go have your WE WUZ fight elsewhere
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>>67669073
Calm your tits.
Here, some garlic for you.
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WIJ WAREN STADHOUDERS ENZO
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>>67669450
WIJ
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>>67669545
WAREN
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>>67669629
KAREL
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>>67664598
Sad but true
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>>67669696
EN SCHIJT
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