So why the fuck did we never "bomb the hell" out of north korea. Seriously this country is full of brainwashed subhuman scum and really has no right to exist.
>>67649044
Because of China
>>67649044
pot, meet kettle
I'm reasonably certain 100% of the NK population would agree with the government being disposed of.
Especially those feral 8 year old kids who find warmth around garbage fires like little hobos.
I un-ironically cringe about those poor gooks.
>>67649109
I mean america is full of retards yeah, but this country they believe fucking kimberly jock strap can control the weather, and they cried at the previous two leaders deaths despite keeping them in perpetual squalor
>>67649044
Because the humanitarian fallout would be huge, plus NATO/UN etc etc.
What the fuck is the point, I don't understand why anyone would think that way.
>>67649396
I'm an isolationist, but in this case I agree with OP somewhat. NK was a rogue state before, but now it's a rogue state with nuclear weapons. We've lost our opportunity to unite the Korean peninsula without someone getting nuked
>>67649404
It's a legitimately dangerous regime (unlike fucking Iraq and Syria), that literally needs to be erased from the world map.
>>67649044
>Bombing the most entertaining, non-threat on that side of the world.
For what purpose? They're not even worth the media's attention.
>>67649404
Bongbro is right.
North Korea has nothing to do with us. If they want change so bad, they can revolt.
We have our own problems.
>>67649044
YOU DID LOL
1950s and shit. Americans were in Pyongyang
>>67649396
This is why we need to weaponize space.
>send "satellite" ship
>deploys hundreds of autonomous drones
>drag asteroids from mid belt
>place in orbit around Moon
>throw at people you don't like
>no radiation, no U.N. crying like a little bitch, and no survivors
We, as humans, enjoy a delicious irony at this particular time in history. With all our guns, bombs, tanks, jets, nukes, and experimental weaponry... our worst injuries, perhaps the only truly fatal injury our species can suffer, is from a rock.
>>67649790
If we could drag shit from the asteroid belt to earth we wouldn't need war in the first place.
Once Trump turns America into a fascist monarchial empire, we'll undertake a crusade against communism.
But for now we should focus on reaching that state before we drop the bombs.
>>67649548
>non-threat
>has nukes
What the fuck are you talking about
>>67649044
1) geopolitics, the USSR had their back until their collapse, which allowed them to establish a long-lasting commie dictatorship with a highly isolated/brainwashed populace
2) not much of value to be gained from bombing NK besides stopping an ongoing humanitarian crisis
3) more geopolitics, japan for example sees korea as a rival and isnt keen on seeing a united korea in the future
4) they are a military state, and even though they are ill equipped/underfed and would not stand a chance if the world went after them, there would be a lot of death as they have dug themselves deep into the mountains and have weapons capable of shelling the fuck out of highly populated areas of S. korea
5) bombing them would ironically take an ongoing human rights crisis and turn it into the possibly the biggest humanitarian disaster the world has ever seen. what do you do with ~24 million starving, uneducated, brainwashed peasants? it would cost billions (trillions?), or if S. korea absorbed them (the logical answer) their economy would be destroyed and would take decades to recover
there was a bretty gud article about it somewhere recently, tried to dig it up but i cant remember who published it.
>>67649922
I dunno... if the Muslims, Leftists, and Jews being as bad as they are, raw material resources, even in infinite supply, wouldn't be enough to stop war.
We'll be fighting probably forever.
>>67650056
>Unable to deliver said nukes past their doorstep
>Threat
>>67650056
>no missiles that could even reach the Aleutians in Alaska much less Hawaii or Continental US
>have a defense system in place that would destroy said missile before it even became a danger regardless
>"North Korea is a threat"
>>67650060
>~24 million starving
There would be 1 million military casualties alone, more than likely embattled cities wouldn't allow citizens to flee - Stalingrad style, so 8 million dead norks.
But we are going to have to do it
They have nukes, and are only growing their arsenal, millions of sorks are in danger, and tens of millions on the west coast US are in danger
>>67650295
Except we don't know that for sure, missile tech is proliferating, and we have to take into account a clandestine strike - carried out by a passenger plane or some such, with a nuke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
>>67650407
even if half the population was wiped out, 12 million people is still an enormous number of people to deal with, and doesnt change the reality for S. korea who would no doubt have to bear the weight.
also to be clear i'm not necessarily arguing that we SHOULDNT go after them at some point, only pointing out that the situation has become so entrenched that this is why no one has made a move. i wondered about the same question until i read the article, which made some very good points (most of which i listed)--particularly because the US loves toppling "oppressive dictators", but leaves the worst one to his own devices (jim jong un and his dad/granddad honestly make guys like saddam look like preschool teachers).
>>67649615
I'm talking post 1953 obviously.
>>67649563
they just sentenced an american kid to 15 years of bitch labor for ALLEGEDLY stealing a propaganda poster
this is most likely a false charge, and they're using their new bitch as a bargaining chip against us
you think we should just take that?
>>67649044
or so they tell you, goy
>>67650615
In the past it was because China and their intervention during the Korean war, but now China has lost control of the leash
>>67650615
Not our problem, that's South Korea's. Let them deal with it. We need to stop them before they get an actual nuke.
>>67650717
NO! We need to quit being fucking cucks and make the world fear us again.
>>67650717
We shouldn't take it.
We should send an assassination squad to kill the American dipshit, and tape a note to his body with OP's photo printed on it.
On the back: "Bargain THIS, you faggot! -t. America"
>>67649044
Because that's how nationalism works. If there's no opposing country to demonise, you can't easily convince sheeple that the American status-quo is worth trusting and living under. Opposition used to be more dignified, but with the majority of the western world being direct US allies, countries like North Korea are used to make the point now.
In truth, the US could end North Korea in a matter of hours, but they don't need to. The state only needs to maintain control of sheeple so that politicians like Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump can have the support they need and freely push their agendas. North Korea is no threat to the USA, sheeple waking up is.
>>67650934
This, there are really only three things that should really end in this world currently. Israel, north Korea, and Saudi Arabia.
>>67650896
>Not our problem, that's South Korea's. Let them deal with it. We need to stop them before they get an actual nuke
for the love of god, i JUST said that i'm not arguing whether or not the US should intervene, only stating reasons why they havent. fucking underage armchair generals. /pol/ is truly the worst.
>>67650529
Yea we do, or they would have done it. Further, our national defense would stop such a strike from happening. Let alone the fact of a passenger airliner carrying a full sized atomic bomb is pretty laughable.
They don't even have thermonuclear weapons yet. They're not a threat, even remotely. Neither is Iran for that matter.
because of china
>>67651112
It's still better than that shithole by miles. Nearly anywhere really is, even most African countries.
I understand that China doesn't want an American military hold-out on their border.
But what's wrong with just nuking Korea? They eat dogs. What's the problem?
>>67650896
> Let them deal with it. We need to stop them before they get an actual nuke.
Were the fuck have you been, they have actual nukes, they have several successful underground nuke tests already.
>HURR DURR MISSILE DEFENSE, HURR DURR THEY CAN'T REACH WEST COAST
They already have a tested KN-11 SLBM, they have Taepodong 2 with near 10,000km range, KN-08 coming into service with 12,000km range.
Both of these are on modified russian TEL trucks, so they could literally put them on a bulk cargo ship, ship em off to a small deserted island in the pacific or fire while underway or they could put a nuke warhead on an Air Koryo flight.
They'll have ICBM capability to hit most of the US within the decade and they'll most definitely have MIRV's, if they don't already have some crude MIRV setup already
>missile defense
Yeah it isn't exactly our strong point desu senpai, a targeted surprise attack on a major metro with multiple nukes and we'll be lucky if we even bag one. There is too much ground to cover and military bases and missile silos have priority for missile defense
>>67649044
Are you serious?
North Korea is God send for every country.
It's the field lab for other countries to test things, from weapons to chemicals to medicine to drugs to new technologies to new social experiments to new systemic structures etc....
That's why it is never nuked.
>>67651712
One they can actually deliver dipshit.
>>67651323
Agreed, but there's no denying that the US is on a downward trend right now, and there's no decent candidate during these elections. Hillary has locked the win and will likely undo any good Obama managed to accomplish during the last 8 years.
>>67651712
Also yeah SLBM means submarine launched ballistic missile, what the fuck are we going to do when they launch inatmospheric from 200 miles off the coast?
Yeah sure they'll be immediately sunk but do you think AEGIS is going to stop 4-8 missiles?
>>67651872
Agree with that whoteheartedly, though in fairness Obama hasn't been amazing, just adequate.
>>67651788
Except they can actually fucking deliver and I just gave you several scenarios where they could put a TEL on a ship or have a sub with SLBM's fire from the pacific.
They have a successful SLBM, it's been tested. The window is closing
>>67651788
I don't wanna live in a world where I wake up one morning and a bunch of cities in California, Alaska and Hawaii got nuked because Kim Jong Un had a bad hairday.
At this point you've got Russia moving missile defense to Vladivostok because they know and deal with NK more than us and are utterly convinced they are going batshit and becoming a threat to the Russian Federation, China is dealing with similar problems
>>67652036
Either way point is we do need to stop them. We kept looking at Iran as the threat and they were never going to do shit.
Oh, how cute. The short term memory of the dullard American sheeple makes him forget that he already did "bomb the hell" out of Korea in 1950 to 1953 with a scorched-earth policy that would make even Ted Cruz think twice. Now more than 60 years later he is foaming at the mouth again, fully propaganized by CNN reporting about the subhuman crazy commie gooks who refuse to accept the supremacy of the American way of life. He's wounded in his national pride by the advances in the Chinese economy and bothered with feelings of inadequacy when witnessing how other Asian countries pulled ahead, building 21st century skyscrapers, bridges and airports that make New York feel very 1970s in comparison. But with those damn commie gooks in Korea he can once again relish in a sense of moral and civilizational superiority, a perfect "other" to hate and to destroy, while simultaneously ignoring the continuing growth of the Asian economies. Lets destroy Korea!
>>67652561
We either stop them sooner, with China and/or Russia if we can, and write off a few South Korean cities, maybe a chinese one and Vladivostok, or we wait the long game, Nork doubles down and calls our bluff one day, with ICBM's, and a billion between China, Russia, South Korea, and the US die.
Having nukes, aerial and SRBM's is one thing, and more than enough of a deterrent, they are going full blown TEL ICBM and SLBM, they literally want to be able to fucking hit anyone and everyone
>>67652821
Yeah and it didn't work the first time. We need to finish the job, and I wouldn't be talking heetler, you guys are getting cucked to Islam.
>>67652821
Shut the fuck up cuck, I still don't understand why we didn't nuke the Germans.
>>67652821
When nukes fly, turks die
>>67653125
So the Turks are our cannon fodder?
There may be no better pleasure in life than being an old fat fuck, knocking back brewskis in your BVDs with a full ashtray, a pack of smokes and a lighter in reach.
>>67653222
If any part of the US is attacked, with nukes or otherwise, Germoney is contractually bound by Art V. to go to war against our attacker.
The damage will be catastrophic as NATO demands germany to send its combat divisions, there will be draft riots because germany has conscription, Germany will fall to islamic filth as it's fighting men pound the ground in Korea.
Turk scum will be wiped out, Greece will have Constantinople again
>>67653568
If Islam takes over Germany though, that's a problem right there.
What is this 60s?
Nuking a shithole wont fix anything it will only start a world world, fucking dumb cunt
>>67649044
North Korea is the only National Socialist regime on the planet.
I say let Russia annex them,
>wont cost the west anything
>will piss off china
>will create a buffer zone between china and south korea/japan (best asian countries), further westernizing them away from china
>NK is a total shit hole so russians would fit right in
>no one cares if russia has another genocide on their hands, just business as usual
>russia gets a major port right in the china sea so it will fuck with chinas navy
>it's perfect divide and conquer for stoping all the asian countries forming some kind of pact.
>no one wants russia to get bigger but NK is shit anyway, loads of minefields and snow
>>67652821
Ironically the reason they don't bother unifying Korea is because they saw what happened to Germany after the collapse of East Germany.
Only problem is the North Koreans are even more ass-backwards and behind the times today than East Germany was in 89. Hell, East Germany might have been more modern than NK is today.
The economic collapse of NK would trigger a depression for China and SK. SK might actually bankrupt itself trying to care for the refugees, even before thinking about the astronomical costs of modernizing the country and re-educating people to modern society.
You Krautcucks still pay taxes for the modernization of East Germany today. It's hilarious.
>>67653568
>Constantinople will be greek again
Shh go back to sleep little special snowflake
>>67650407
>implying south k or the west coast are worth saving from gook nukes
And possibly provoke China nah
>>67653935
>start a world war
Even China fucking hates them now.
America is full of brainwashed people also.
>>67653978
national bolshevik ***
Living standards in North Korea are better than most other places in the world. You can't just bomb a country becaise it isn't as rich as Europe, America and the east-asian nations who recieved billions of dollars to fight the soviet union.
>>67649275
If they don't cry, they die
>>67654765
>Living standards in North Korea are better than most other places in the world.
Topkek. Nearly 40% have fucking malnutrition.
Uh, excuse me, but did you people forget about the Korean War or something??
>>67654000
Hol' up
There really isn't anything "modern" or "western" about Russia (AKA svoloch land, vatniks and shitty infrastructure that can't even cover half the country) and you want them to get even more clay that they can't even be bothered to manage?
There's a good reason that Russia wants to expand into eastern europe again instead of mongol steppes. Because they don't want to build new infrastructure or get more resources that they can be bothered to extract. Neither do they want people that they can't even communicate with on a basic level.
>>67653032
YEAAAA BOMB EMMM WOOOOO
I don't really mind. I like China. And your corporate rulers don't seem to mind hollowing out their own country's middle class and transferring that wealth to Asia in the name of globalization either. So it's a win-win-win for all involved. Retard American sheeple can masturbate to the COMMIE GOOK punching-bag while having their jobs shipped to Asia, corporations can make lots of money and the other Asian countries get lifted out of poverty
>>67654008
east germany is nothing like NK, the money they send to the east is to build high tech manufacturing, it's not like they are poland.
north korea can be assimilated in no time, just look at how china built up their country in 10 years, they could install ports and highways and have a fully working country within 5 years with their pre built construction, im sure theres a shit ton of businessmen in china just drolling to get their hooks into the new lands
>>67649044
Why waste the money? It's an insignificant country with no real power.
>>67649044
>burger
>bomb a country
the dubs dont lie
>>67655150
well obviously, in this fantasy scenario, they would have to remove the population,
>>67649790
I'M FROM PYONGYANG AND I SAY GIVE EM HELL.
