Let's do one of these threads again. /Pol/ population time.
Blue is where I was about a year ago. Red is where I'm at now. Rate me.
Link.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Red sucks
>>67626801
>tfw i support trump
I was in the green a month ago
>>67626801
http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php
This one is better
>>67627390
You're fine. I would take Trump>Sanders>Clinton.
I hate them all honestly.
>>67626801
You're going in the exact wrong direction.
T. Purple master race
>>67627390
>>67628136
>>67627673
>>67628232
uncuckable
Because fuck updating.
>>67627673
>>67627673
I did the test again but this time i took a minute or so per question
WHAT AM I?
>>67628136
>>67628863
this cant be right
so you're a conservative who wants world government but is also an anarchist with liberal values?
2, -2 or you're a terrible person in one way or another.
this is perfect score
>>67629015
Conservative = anti-interventionist = small government
Anarchist = Small government
Republicans = Anti government
Progressive = some Social practices shouldn't be illegal = anti-government
World government = everyone under the same laws
The Ideal world government would be weak but strong enough to manage everyone, notice how I wasn't 100% anti-authoritarianism
anything else is either cuck tier or meme tier
these are the only comfy spots
>>67629501
YESS, right on the edge
>>67628183
>>67628386
>>67628828
>>67629501
>>67629600
only correct answers, seriously the rest of you stop being such huge cock sucking cucks...
>>67627673
i'm a conservative progressive?
what the fuck is that?
I'm doing the other test. This is what it has to say.
>>67626801
>>67629801
also, i'm considered right wing in memexico
>>67629801
Look at this:
>>67629478
Also we're bros now
Top right master race coming through. Plebs and cucks out of my way.
>>67631378
>being a cuck to the state
proud
>>67627673
r8
>>67631886
>says the american
>>67631935
mouthful/10
>>67631378
Oh hello fellow nationalist, nice day we're having on /pol/. Would be even nicer if we could gas all of these libertarian, conservative, centrist, and progressive faggots to death.
>>67632034
Also here's my graph.
>>67632034
>>67632067
Very nice to meet you. I was expecting there to be a lot more who are in the same area as you and. Sad to see how pathetic it is here.
>>67632279
*as you and I
>>67632019
c u c k e d
>>67627673
>all this bullshit ""modern"" terms.
Also what the fuck is this shit?
>>67632290
finally another Gandhi \o/
>>67632398
And this is my political compass.
>>67632346
What it is like being a rebellious 14 year old prankster on /pol/?
How are my comrades doing today?
>>67632489
>implying
that guberment dick must be pretty good
>>67626801
Am I autistic?
>>67633165
No, you just like money. Fucking Jew. Get gassed.
>>67633165
Way to freemarket for me but no. The only autists are the authoritarian "le hitler ss waffen TRUE ARYAN" fags who unironically think Hitler never did anything wrong.
>>67626801
I'm comfortable with the size of my previous, yes
>>67627673
Rate
>>67633847
Keppihevonen!
>>67632279
>What is bait?
Unlike you faggots I don't mind you spouting all the hot shit you want. When you think the other ideas should be actively silenced is when I draw the line.
I don't disagree with national pride. I do disagree when it crosses into totalitarianism. Which it always does.
>>67627673
Socialist Authoritarian Isolationist Traditionalist
Collectivism score: 67%
Authoritarianism score: 50%
Internationalism score: -67%
Tribalism score: 0%
Liberalism score: -33%
Wombo combo.
![chart[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RuFUPgJ.png "chart[1].png")
i am an old school reactionary (like de maistre)
and somehow i keep getting left
conclusion:
modern sense of left and right is screwed up
>>67628302
Ayy brother
>>67634130
Oh darn I just got rused! You really got me there chap. I hope you didn't get offended at getting called a "pleb" or a "cuck". They are just memes chum and I certainly wasn't trying to "actively silence" anyone. It was just a bit o banter!
>>67634296
Socialist master race here, every other test has me come out as authoritarian. I feel the political compass is flawed in determining libertarian/authoritarian.
>>67632290
>>67632477
same here
friendly reminder that this political attitude is too right winged in germany
filthy commie degenerate reporting in
>>67634130
Totalitarianism is the only natural way for us humans, we cannot rule ourselves because like so many tried methods of majority rule, it always ends up in total disaster and chaos. Therefore it is better for an enlightened monarch to rule over us, as it is more centralized, and therefore more organized and strong so that the populace will be kept in check at all times.
And it is after all a natural system for the world. One Earth under Lord, one Nation under King, one animal of the forest to rule them all.
After all, might does make right.
>>67634814
Consider authoritarianism - much easier to defeat the filthy capitalist class when you're forceful. You must have a national unity among people if you wish to unite all people under a communist system. Of course some freedom should be allowed, but the government must have some measure of control in order to create unity.
is there ANYONE on the top left quadrant
literally any person at all except just me?
>tfw i'm voting for trump
>>67634885
Only problem with the benevolent dictatorship is succession, no guarantee the progeny isn't going to turn massive cunt.
You are a: Right-Leaning Libertarian Non-Interventionist Ultranationalist Reactionary
Is this too edgy?
>>67634978
Also voting for Trump here. Toppling the establishment and destroying the influence of Wall Street in Congress is absolutely necessary to rebuild our economy. Either Trump or Sanders, I believe, could get the job done and with the recent sweep by Hillary last night - Trump is the only man left to do the job.
>>67634885
what if monarch is a cunt and starts a world war that will devastate the nation?
>>67634930
I would agree with you, if you were on the other side of spectrum. Otherwise your stance on authoritarianism is dank.
>>67635004
No, it's left-leaning libertarian intervetionist cuckist reactionary
>>67635133
thats the cool thing about being a reactionary statist,
you gotta find a way to deal with it because it doesnt matter what does he do - you are obliged to obey and respect him
>>67634885
Totalitarianism is good at one thing and that's efficiency. With a smart, intelligent, and reasonable dictator or king, shit gets done and it gets done quickly. But due to the generally corrupt, selfish nature of human beings, it's difficult to find such an enlightened leader - especially multiple over the course of a nation's history. Placing that much power into the hands of one man is potentially catastrophic, which is why you either don't do totalitarianism or you have some means of surveying a leader before appointing them. Otherwise, if shit goes wrong, it goes WRONG.
>>67634701
I don't need to be patronize by a brit-bong. With love you fucker.
>>67635138
Fair enough. Keep in mind that I do believe capitalism is a system which can work - which is why I'm deciding to vote for Trump over Sanders come November. I just heavily prefer a socialist system, so we can just agree to disagree. Authoritarianism is the shit, though - glad we have common ground there.
>>67635339
still better than having millions of useless idiots decide what the country does
>>67635002
Yes you'll have your bad apples but most of the time they tend to be decent rulers. Besides I wasn't talking about hereditary monarchy, but rather handpicked successors like in Imperial Roman times.
>>67635133
If you are referring to Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, it was right of him to start a World War. Germany needed to take back her core provinces that were denied her back then.
After all more territories = more power. At any cost of manpower this is a noble goal to achieve.
>>67634930
idk, i'm unsure how i feel about authoritarianism. maybe it's from being so jaded by dumbfuck politicians and capitalist """democracy""", but i don't know how i could trust any kind of truly central force to stay ideologically pure enough to defeat capitalism.
>>67635500
Agreed. Democracy is a complete and utter cancer - I think this election season has really demonstrated that with Hillary as the frontrunner and Trump, to a lesser degree (not necessarily because of Trump, but primarily because many of his supporters, unfortunately, are complete fucking morons). Democracy can work, but it needs heavy checks to weed out morons.
>>67635703
Shillary fag detected.
>>67635651
I was the same way for many years. Living in the US made me very wary of authoritarianism. Keep in mind I'm not a HEAVY authoritarian, I do believe people should have personal freedom and JUST enough democratic power to counter a corrupt central force. It is necessary, however, that the democratic force be well informed and intelligent, which means a check on who can vote. It's a very, very fine line and reaching the balance is near impossible and difficult to define, but it is something which must be pursued.
>>67635516
Just have to make sure the hands doing the picking are clean, then.
>>67635703
yes, i dont diagree with elections as such, i just think that they shouldnt be for all,
but just for lets say... members of the military, wise and influential people and similar
>He's slightly authoritarian and liberal! KILL THE COMMUNIST!
No, I just believe the government should have a little more power in order to be effective with few social programs to get people out of destitution.
>>67635807
lel kid you didnt realize trump is a liberal mole yet?
hes supposed to distract you from voting for a real right winger
>>67635832
>implying handpicked successors to the nation haven't already been clarified by the predecessors
>>67635995
Proof pls.
>>67636002
>Caligula
>>67635930
I'd be for specific requirements for voting, specifically an educational requirement - probably a Bachelor's degree and above - and/or a military requirement. Probably an extensive civics test as well to make sure people understand the basic foundations of government. If people can't even understand how the government functions, they shouldn't be voting for people to run it.
>>67635935
>social programs to get people out of poverty
Why do you even bother?
>>67635225
It's funny because-
1. Like >>67634885 said what if he starts a war? At this stage if it were a major nation to go totalitarian it would most certainly lead to MAD.
2. "Might makes right." But it doesn't though does it? As someone who would prefer anarcy over totalitarianism I know it wouldn't work. Because anarchys make totalitarian socitys. No one but the top person is happy in both circumstances. And the thing is the only reason you would think this is good is because you think you would be safe from the scorn of this god king. It's a shit government who's only goal is to elongate a nation as long as possible before inevitable death. It's not about the happiness of the citizens that will eventually tear it down.
>>67631378
In addition to this
>>67636054
>http://www.answers.com/Q/Good_things_caligula_did
Keep in mind, he also suffered from mental problems which made him somewhat crazy but nevertheless he was still honorbound to do his duty as Emperor.
>>67626801
get on my level
>>67636146
Starting is good if the nation is indeed a major on the globe. It should exert itself and use everything to its advantage over smaller, weaker nations or even bigger nations if it has the resources.
>>67636345
Starting wars*
>>67636052
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/62-70/Ted-Cruz-vs-Donald-Trump
press the issues tab, its just an overwiev,
he also supported Hillary the satanist child murderer and her democratic party cult for years
- we have a saying in my country:
A wolf may change its skin, but never it's temper.
Proletarian revolution when?
>>67636146
thats why large states shouldnt exist at all and neither should Nations
sheck out the nightwatchmanstate concept
otherwise you should always worry about something or somebody, thinking that you can find a country where you can do whatever you want without fear is idiotic and its literally hardcore liberalism --
i Know that most of people here are liberal converts, but srsly you gotta get rid of those:
durr hurr mah freedoms attitude
>>67636373
>he supported Hillary
As a prominent businessman he has supported all types of politicians and successful people, not just Shillary.
What's wrong with murdering children btw? As long as they're shitskin children.
Also Ronald Reagan was also a liberal before but he changed to being a conservative for some miraculous reason. Probably like Trump after seeing how bad our country is getting.
And if he is a mole how come there's no one funding/controlling him?
>>67636098
thats why the aristocracy exists and such aristocratic monarchy Systems are the only ones that srsly function well
>>67636203
>What is Nero?
Seriously, once one emperor becomes vile it tants the next. Bad apples spoiling the bunch and so on.
>>67636203
Same could be said for many a modern despot, though.
>>67636449
the exact moment you kill yourself
>>67636641
Again, Nero was a good emperor too. Just because he slaughtered Christians doesn't mean he was bad at all. Just means he didn't want some pussy religion placating his subjects.
>>67636594
he supported Hillary just cause its what all the cool kids do or what?
suddenly thats an excuse for siding with a she devil,
it shows that either:
1.you are evil
2.you dont Know/care about politics and jsut want Money/power
>whats wrong with murdering children?
are you FCKING serious m8?
>And if he is a mole how come there's no one funding/controlling him?
good question - maybe because hes a fcking billionaire and can fund himself
so this all shows that in the best case hes just a random rude rich dude who is equally politically literate as his average voter is (just)literate
worst cases are domesday tier
Gratuitous
>>67636672
Not really, it all depends on the values and system of the authoritarian regime.
>>67636449
>humanism
Get that filthy shit out of here, you put the people of your nation above all else - you have a duty to your nation's people. To even try to care about the entire world's people is an unrealistic goal not worthy of attention.
>>67636820
...
Is that you, Hillary?
>>67636913
so apparently me: a hardcore antimodernist antidemocratic catholic fundamentalist (jihadist tier) am a sjw
this pic is wrong on so many lvls
>>67636345
Starting war's isn't good though. It makes everyone, but a few people pensive in your nation because people are going out to die for a nation. And sure you can milk that pride as hard as you can, but inevitably it wears down the common populations spirt. Also the instant any major nation started taking over territory's the other major nations would start spying on them out of concern for a global domination plan.
Totalitarianism just doesn't work at the end of the day man. I'm never going to suggest a different form of government because it's up to the individual to think of what the best form of government is. As shown through history totalitarianism never last long on a global scale because it's to aggresive.
>>67636913
Honest, hard working Aryan here.
>>67636913
>muh centralism
Get that shit out of here.
>>67637056
>think like me or you are subhuman/should be killed
>sjw
Sounds right to me, faggot.
>>67636771
Honestly it's bullshit senpai. Had it gone into detail I'd look like much more of a centrist. I do support Bernie, but my second pick would be wall man.
>>67637216
if that means being a right wing version of a sjw then im glad to be one
and you are a liberal "freedom" asking cuck subhuman
*freedom=i do whatever i want fck the authorities
>>67636913
Jews and Shills, Enlightened monarchy and Nazi supermen are the only dignified answers. We aren't ready for illuminati yet and "honest hard working aryans" are just indecisive plebs
>>67636891
>1. You are evil 2. You don't know/care about politics and just want money/power.
If Trump was evil he'd be a politician. Therefore it's probably 2. And if it's 2, then he wouldn't want more money because he already has enough.
Probably the only thing he wants now is power and fame, and to succeed greatly as president of the USA. He wants to be liked by everyone so he'll do it well.
Especially as a businessman because the country is actually a big business as a whole, I see no problems with him administrating it.
>Are you fucking srs m8?
Yes I am, if they're shitskins they need to die.
>Good question - maybe because he's a fucking billionaire and can fund himself.
Yes, so he isn't a mole, you basically countered yourself in your own argument.
>Worst case scenario is Doomsday Tier
If the world ends, so be it. It's too shitty to live on as of now.
>>67636548
I know it is. I understand that. Again it's a pipe dream government. Like true communism, socialism, or capitalism. These ideas require too many unrealistic/hard standards to maintain. I enjoy the thought of everyone being there own man without anyone constantly looking over you. At the same time I know people are violent and would lust for greater things other than what they made/earned they would want there neighbors stuff as well.
>>67636931
Of course I do (not Singaporean by the way). If it ever came down to it, I would fly back home and join the army. However, it doesn't hurt to try the diplomatic option.
Saying violence first kind of makes you sound like a nigger.
Fucking hell. Am I even a real human bean?
>>67637070
What do you call Rome then, idiot. Rome conquered most of the known world at the time and it lasted as an Empire for thousands of years. And yes, absolute monarchies have existed for many more years then democracies.
I can't believe a filthy democratist such as yourself would have the nerve to argue with me when you know full well it is the only way we can ever exist as a unified whole.
>>67637433
>trump is here for power and fame which is a definetely smthing that leads to a good presidency, also good businessman = good politicial
>people who did nothing wrong in their lives deserve to die because i dont like the way they look
>if he isnt payed by somebody else means there is absolutely no chance he can work for anybody else or be used by somebody else without him knowing
>i dont like the world/ cant handle it so i wanna watch it burn
this is some serious liberal leftist tier cancer
>>67626801
ATTENTION AUTISTS!
Put your aspergers to use and calculate the average from all these images to see where /pol/ lies on average.
Should be easy enough.
Plot as X & Y Graph each block representing 1 unit. Get sum of all X units and devide by total and ditto for Y.
>>67637474
the problem is most people are idiots and cant see this
even the ones with remote common sense like our fellow /pol/lacks are mostly just angstfilled Youth who want cool crusades, kicking Black and kikes ass and a good powerful government while in the same time not realizing that it First takes to believe to start the crusades, First it takes to be a decent non degenerate example man yourself to be able to deal with kikes and niggers and obedience and respect + giving away some your freedoms even when you dont like the government in order to authoritarianism to work
--- so its basically just french revolution tier people on pol which is just gonna bang off their Heads and all again in the circle until normal non degenerate cultures like arab culture take over (no matter how much anybody hates muslims, we cant say they are cucks)
>>67637768
On the contrary I think you might be a liberal. Shitskins are known to be mentally inferior to lighter humanoids. It's not what I base on looks as much as I base on their genetics and race.
And yes, a person wanting power and fame does make a good president. Or ruler, really.
also
>without him knowing
You really countered your argument that time, I actually think on the contrary, you might be the liberal scumbag for bashing Trump.
>>67636815
He technically burned/ let burn his whole fucking capital. He didn't give a shit about his country or citizens.
>>67636913
honest hardworking aryan masterrace
>>67629938
>Nationalist
>Monkeydonian
Why? How? Serbian nationalist living south of the border?
>>67638168
>my reply was utterly idiotic and autistic
>quick lets do dmg control
>First do some projection spiced with some Extra expressing what i dislike in a rude manner
>then repeat another idiotic line from last reply hoping for it to sound good when put like this
>and for the icing saying something that literally doesnt make sense + STOP BASHING MAH GLORIOUS LEADER DONALDO
*ironic clap
this is just trning into plain stupidity,
what youre saying is evolving into literal cancer and aids now
>>67633430
This is the only right answer. Any other compasses are made by newfags and bluepilled cucks.
r8 me
I think there's a missing piece to this test, which should be a "how important is this topic to me" scale for questions
I consider myself pretty moderate though, left-leaning, so this seems pretty close
>>67638889
dammit
>>67637718
I said modern government. Older governments put in place that way lasted longer because there wasn't many armys to rival it. Plus distance, tools of war etc. On a global scale totalitarianism doesn't work. Look at North Korea. Last thing is this the Roman empire is remember for one main thing brutality. Hence the reason the plebeins would always jump at the chance rebel against the government. Totalitarian regimes cause nothing but suffering. The government couldn't control territory's so far out of its reach. Just because it lasted long doesn't mean any of the people were happy.
>>67638590
Again, I don't really care what an uninformed, left-leaning Yuropoor thinks about my country or my future president. So please, fuck off.
>>67639040
Global totalitarianism can work, and it has with Russia on several occasions during the Empire and even the USSR to some extent, since of course Russia accounts for much of the world.
And from what I can recall, the plebeians actually liked the Caesars because they were good leaders. Your whole paragraph is fucking wrong, dude. Stop trying to persuade me to your viewpoint because it isn't working.
And yes totalitarian regimes cause suffering but democracy causes more suffering and hurt due to conflicts between internal factions.
With one head controlling everything, and no internal factions disrupting things from occuring, society can advance and progress faster than with some other system.
Hmmm
(I'm not actually from Barbados BTW)
Those who don't score in blue should not be allowed to post here because clearly they are too young.
Remove Degenerate.
>believe capitalism is the best and most efficient way to allocate resources in a society.
>however think the potential of super rich people to influence society should be curtailed by a strong state
>democracy in countries with 5 million + people is a meme
>strongly nationalistic but non interventionist and opposed to forms of national chauvanism.
>believe there should be some safety net in society but it shouldn't incentivise laziness, workfare as opposed to welfare.
>socialised medicine and education are pretty good
>environmentalism is important
>traditional morals should be promoted to a certain extent. Gays are okay, but not "gay culture", nor trannies or feminism. Sexual liberation is okay but flagrant promiscuity should be frowned upon. Porn is bad.
>Competition should be promoted in schools, no "everybody gets a trophy" mentality.
>separate high schools for boys and girls up until the last two years, focus on learning different things though everyone will be taught a universal curriculum too.
>Universities increase their standards and do away with pointless subjects. Non-STEM subjects are still taught but reserved only for the highly talented and passionate.
>race realism taught in schools but not hatred for other races
>Tax fatties for being a drain on the health system
>Death penalty for child rapists and serial killers and such
I guess I am in the blue, leaning closer to the upper centre.
I don't care if you're right or left, but if you're above center, your a fucking lunatic.
I'm not sure if every answer contributes to the final score the same... It would suck since some of these issues are way more important than the others.
I guess that might be the reason why I didn't end up in the lower left corner of the upper right square.
>>67639854
And I actually didn't have that flag...
>>67640458
No, it would just mean that people have confidence in their ability to elect moral and competent leaders.
Someone make one that is pretty far down and slightly left of center
You're all a bunch of libertarian retards.
2008 called, they want their Ron Paul bumperstickers back,
>>67641471
This is the ideal political leaning
>>67641557
dafuq is wrong with you !?
>>67641614
>I think wealth redistribution and public ownership of the means of production can actually happen without a big government to enforce it
ayy lmao. The bottom-left corner is for delusional retards.
Is this being honest?
>>67641724
What's the problem?
>>67641844
It's honestly pretty exaggerated. Not sure about the authenticity.
This is full on retarded
>>67626801
Red quadrant, you are like the Soviet Union or China. Everyone look and do the same. Enjoy your slavery.
Green quadrant. Islam, refugee Green Party pussy. You want total destruction of anything that's ever happened before you, you're probably a Buddhist transsexual living in Thailand saying Sweden yes.
Blue quadrant: You are evil Reagan American who likes to work 2 dollars an hour for rich fat cats who donate to your "cause". Everyone else is richer and smarter than you, and you are racist who takes credit for white people work.
Purple quadrant: probably a paultard.
>>67641851
Where should I start ?
Let's start with Tribalism.
100% ? You are veeery proud of your country right ? Why ? Did you do anything (excpect of paying taxes for a few years if you are old enough) for the society of your country ?
Why should, what you have not created, not be shared with people from other countries ?
To be born in a geolocially random place, does not determine your worth, nor other peoples worth.
What are you proud of ? Being proud of one's country is like being proud of some cheese, which is accidentially produced in your hometown.... (no France pun intended, just a random product that came to mind)
>>67642265
luckily nobody's generalising here. kek
>Top Left
Communist filth. Has no grasp on the lessons of yesteryear and the human independant spirit. Wants to constantly build up the less fortunate while penalizing the successful, creating a self-destructing state.
>Top Right
Has a specific set of extremely biased beliefs that he believes should be enforced about all else. This person believes in the "unless I say so" clause.
The market should be free, unless I say so.
There should be freedom of religion, unless I say so.
We should not value X over Y, unless I say so.
>Bottom Left
A pothead and a tea partier had a baby and they named it "Fuck the State".
The intentions here are all good and well, but when shit hits the fan, as it always does, chaos and anarchy will erupt, and these people are probably fine with that.
>Bottom Right
The government is corrupt. The government is not to be trusted. The government should be constantly watched. The government should be easily punished.
Oh, but the Church and private buisness? They're great. They would never hurt us!
>>67642217
>Right-Leaning Anarchist Non-Interventionist Cosmopolitan Liberal
That sounds like a tumblr gender.
>>67627673
>You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Isolationist >Nativist Moderate
>Collectivism score: -100%
>Authoritarianism score: -100%
>Internationalism score: -67%
>Tribalism score: 67%
>Liberalism score: 0%
lel
lol
>Top tier
Green
>High Tier
Moderate
Purple
>Mid Tier
Blue
>Low Tier
Red
>>67642403
You got it wrong. I'm not "proud" of my country as much as I deem national identity to be important (ancestry, history). I'm also against foreign intervention, aid and other things. People should keep to themselves, individual interests are more important than lending help to foreign entities. Multiculturalism is a sham, one should always remember and cherish where he comes from.
Is tribalism the only thing you think is wrong with my ideology?
I've always been a centrist with an ever so slight leaning to the right, it's interesting that I'm slowly moving downward though.
Last time I did this test (probably 4 years ago) I was 0.5 -0.5
>>67642620
I'm so sorry.
I'm not sorry.
>>67644070
You're realizing just how corrupt and incompitant even the most democratic systems can be.
You're waking up.
>>67642265
>can't think of a good complaint for purple
>uh... I'LL JUST CALL THEM PAULTARDS!
Rate.
No hate.
>>67645799
Please link all these tests
>>67643491
All we are now, all humans, came from different places, went to different places, and we all mixed up. Genetically, culturally, sociologically - now we stand here. And the way humanity is set up right now, is the right way ? So now, all countries with different habits should stay how they are, with their own "kind" ?
That's acting like the amish: "The technology level in the 19th was just the right amount of technology, and now we stop" - And now we should stop cultural mixing? Because this now the countries are ethically, culturally acceptable ?
I just see no reason sticking to you own beliefs without allowing other cultures to maybe make our society better. Stopping to change opinions, and views(which come from other cultural spectrums), is stopping societies development. The more we mix up, the closer we get to pan-humanism, the closer we get to a more equilibrated world's society.
If anyone intends to tell me I'm naiv, you may aswell leave it - Sure it is a dream currently, but it will never be more likely to happen if every country goes his own way.
You alos said it is important to remember where you come from. Why ? What is important about you being born in your country ?
And, I also disagree on the collectivism score of -83%
Why should the state/society (this should be a synonym.... maybe one day) not help others by pushing them economically?
If you were aiming for the war issue, if invading other countries, to in turn save other countries, that is a more deicate matter..
>>67646108
Your reasoning doesn't make sense in the current day and age.
Some cultures are toxic and harmful. Right now, Islam is in the same state Christianity was ~500 years ago; that's to say, completely obscurantist.
I don't believe that some races are inherently inferior to others (biologically or genetically), but centuries of cultural conditioning has a considerable influence on how an ethnic community behaves. Right now, middle-eastern culture is not "enriching" or "interesting" in any way that could potentially benefit our societies: it's inferior to ours and destructive. If they want to shit up their own territories I truly don't give a fuck, but don't come to my country to do it, that's all.
Furthermore, multiculturalism is fundamentally flawed. Accepting all cultures as equal in your country defeats the purpose of having a culture in the first place. I want my country's kids to know where they come from and their ancestors' history; I don't want them to learn about how we're all equal and cultural heritage doesn't matter :^), that's retarded. To truly experience a foreign culture in an "enriching", rewarding way, you should go experience it in the country it comes from. Right now I can (have to, rather) "experience" arab culture in the streets of Paris, and that infuriates me - firstly because I don't have a choice (or else I'm a racist shitlord), secondly because French culture is increasingly made irrelevant to accomodate and satisfy minorities in a disgustingly guilt-tripping, anti-intellectual way.
>>67646108
>Why should the state/society (this should be a synonym.... maybe one day) not help others by pushing them economically
Because deep down, I'm an egoist in the ideological sense and I don't believe one should strive to accomodate the needs of others because of a mistaken moral imperative
More realistically, because I'm a sovereignist and think that the purpose of a country, first and foremost, is to thrive economically and to grow. Other things are secondary or unimportant
>>67635516
>it was right of him to start a World War
But he fucked up all of Bismarck's clever diplomatic manoeuvring....
Also chart pic for the record.
>>67636129
>>social programs to get people out of poverty
Isn't that what the Hoover dam and Mt. Rushmore carving was about ?
>>67647148
And people still ask themselves how it could happen, that so much hatred could could be created against one religion. You are a perfect answer to that. Media, colleagues, and radical individualists have radicalized you. Congratulation on being part of a shitty system and supporting it. Hate what you don't know. That always works.
>>67647307
What is the source of the test with the care,fairness etc. and the source of the test with cosmopolitan-nationalist etc. ?
>>67647833
Damn, I thought you were just a bit naive but you're actually an idiot.
Keep welcoming multiculturalist reforms and see what it does to your country.
>hatred
Because it's inferior, destructive and generally counterproductive. Keep deluding yourself into thinking everyone's equal even though history and current events continuously prove you wrong
>>67647833
Oh and
>radical individualists
How is that a bad thing, exactly?
>>67648420
Thanks
>>67648340
Are you really asking what is bad about being radical/radical individualist ? And in the same breath you are saying I'm naiv and an idiot ?
You start making of yourself right ? I like a bit of self-mockery ^^
cool datamining thread
Is this part of your research, Dan Gabriel?
>>67648969
You start making fun* of yourself right?
Little typo.
>>67648969
You're not disproving any of my claims and just resorting to emotions and irony :^) like I would expect of a leftist
Tell me what's wrong with individualism and egoism, I'm waiting
>"/pol/ is authoritarian cucks now"
>mfw all these libertarians
very nice
I used to be on the center.
But i dont know shit about economics
>>67646584
Wtf do you do here?
>>67641630
>>67641471
>>67639854
How did I do guys?
>>67649346
>>67649346
This is becoming ridiculous.
You know what is wrong with egoism. And sure I'm focusing on the social/emotional aspects. Because ethics is one of the highest values. And ethics is an emotional topic.
And I never said individualism is wrong, radicalism is.
Having said that you do not seem to wanting to answer my question:
"You also said it is important to remember where you come from. Why ? What is important about you being born in your country ?"
Islam itself is not harmful. Radicalized islamist are harmful (which where supported by our governments, with weapons, armour, vehicles), and now we've got an enemy to fight against, yey - more money, for more weapons. And now we are playing the good side, and again, have an enemy to fight against. Now you can finally again have a socially accepttable bogeyman - Islam.
I am also not saying, if that's what you think I'm saying, we should embrace all change at anytime - I'm a democrat, and some people will always see their wishes and desires not fullfilled.
You can't say all christians are dangerous because Breivik did what he did. There are some cunts among them
The pendant to those cunts exist in every countries society - just because media is creating a picture in your head you are blindly following.
There is a lot to learn from Islam and their culture. There is a law in most arabic countries which allows ppl to steal if they are hungry, to sleep at places where you would usually not be allowed to sleep if they have no roof over your head. That is definitely more advanced, and you can be certain there is sooo much more. Sure in many aspects and ways I appreciate what we have become, and often I agree on our ethics standard, but there is room for improvement. And mixing cultures is one of the key elements in advancement.
