What's up with these young girls wishing for a day where they can walk around with no shirt the way a man can? is there any real argument against this? It naturally pisses me off for some reason, but honestly I have no response. If we lived in a world where women's breasts were treated the same as men's would it be that bad?
if you consider the contexts in which men walk around with no shirt, if women started doing the same I doubt it would actually be that controversial.
In a developed country, how often do you see men walking down the street with no shirt on? Doesn't even happen here that much even with lots of 40+ degree day
Pro tip: it's actually legal in most states for women to be topless.
We had topless laws here in Ontario for over 18 years now. Not surprisingly, hardly any women make use of it.
Yes and why can't I walk around with my dick out?
>>67624594
It's been legal in Ontario for women to be shirtless anywhere a man can be for ~15 years
Number of women seen shirtless outside of the nude beach: zero.
Liberals love to bitch about anything they can bitch about, but none of them actually want what they're fighting for.
>>67624883
This. I don't use them but I heard facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram now allow not only topless women but under certain circumstances nude women.
>>67624935
Because why the fuck would you want to in Pommy land. It'd fucking fall off.
I wish i could walk around with my shirt off
>>67624594
women need to stop trying to hold themselves to the same standards that men are held up to.
then they turn around and say only men with washboard 8 packs can take off their shirt in public.
then only women with nice racks can be shirtless.
>>67624594
Tyrone would go on a violent muh dick rampage and the women who willingly show their breasts in public deserve it. I'm all for allowing them to show their nipples.
>>67624594
If you value individual liberty more than anything else, there's really no argument against it. If you think individual liberties should be suppressed in favor of national strength, well, you should probably take all women's rights away.
The problem lies in the sexualisation of breasts. A shirtless man gets little to know attention. It's just a normal thing. A shirtless woman, however, and you can bet your ass every guy and even woman will be looking at her from within a block radius.
This isn't helped by the fact that the kind of women who call for women to walk around shirtless are generally attention whores and wish to do it solely for the desire to either rebel against social norms, compete against other women ie (If I can't be more attractive than other women, maybe I can outcompete them this way) or simply wish to call people out on inevitably staring at their breasts and feed their oppression narrative.
If they want to walk around shirtless then they should be willing to allow people to stare at their breasts. After all, if there's nothing wrong with having them out then what's wrong with staring at them?
This kills the feminist.
>biology says not a sexual stimulus
>biology says a sexual stimulus
retards being retards
>>67624594
Ok. You win SJW's there is finally something we can both agree on.
>>67625023
yeah, I know right? imagine how hilarious this picture would be if the guy was overweight
feminism is so hilariously ignorant towards the men that women don't notice, but of course it would be
I'm pretty sure the mythical man that feminists constantly compare themselves to is Don Draper from Mad Men
>>67624883
You know leftists don't actually care about legality, they not only want something to be legal, they not only want everyone to tolerate it, they want everyone to embrace it and even commend them for "breaking the norm" as it were.
If you confront leftists about concrete plans of action to get what they want, what they specifically want to change in terms of legislation or actions, they can't answer you most of the time. It's just supposed to "happen", because all they are going on is a feeling.
>>67624594
It's just retarded attention-seeking shit. The only way to win is to ignore them.
>>67624594
>would it be that bad?
It's bad for family retention.
But that's good for reducing the population.
In the end, only dumb goyim follow these things.
And it's those dumb goyim who need not to reproduce.
So to answer your question, no it's not bad.
Do it slave.
>walk around topless with niggers and arabs everywhere
Really starting to believe women actually want to get raped at the subconscious level.
>>67625023
Women already secretly despise all men who are under a certain height of their standard
It's just another kneejerk reaction from feminist groups striving for "equality" when what they really want is to do everything that men get to do without realizing why there was a difference to begin with.
>>67625222
This
>>67625134
Not really. In certain tribes in Africa where women arent covered, the men reported not being attracted to boobs, but other parts of the body. If women didnt cover, we would all be sexually desensitized to the point where we wouldnt find boobs stimulating.
>>67625334
A-YO
>>67624594
>5 years from now
>lolis running happily topless
I need to support this shit
>>67625222
Basically the goal is disruption of society and creating new classes with which to instigate wars. Reminder, communism CAN NOT succeed, it is human nature to want more and more, and some people are born with more (beautiful, tall, perfect sexy body, light skin color, big tits perfect ass) therefore people who want to have relations with a person who has these attributes must obtain greater wealth to become appealing to these individuals, or use wealth to destroy their social/economic competitors. Communism,/socialism,/liberalism movement is a feel-goody movement that's activated when ever the upper-most echelon of economically privileged class need to turn the sheep against each other while the risk of them and their corruption being outed is higher than ever or they are intending on entering the next level of economic corruption, and they may not always be ethnic Jews.
>>67625789
this, men are groomed to lust for brests through the media telling us that its sexy and taboo to see a nude tit basically from the point we stop brestfeeding. Why? sex sells better when you have more merchandise to show.
What's up with them blaming society instead of feminine sensibilities? Not a man alive who'd stop a woman taking off her shirt.
>>67626674
Because in their mind everything is society's fault. Feminine sensabilities are a product of the patriarchy and blah blah blah. You can never get them out of that circular logic.
>>67624967
Pretty much this.
And if you ever see them topless it's always part of a protest or a queer parade. And 99% of the time it's fat hags.
i've always wanted to be one of those dudes who always goes around shirtless.
but it could only be pulled off during the 90's in socal.
Why do men have nipples? For symetry?
>>67624594
women like to pretend their tits dont give them a shitload of power when clearly, the opposite is true.
they're just boobs :^) hey anybody wanna buy me something?!
>>67624594
Funny thing is, in white society most people wouldn't give a shit. There's topless bathing (or was) all through Europe and Scandinavia. I was sitting on a beach in Perth (Scarborough fyi) and European girls would go topless when it was technically illegal, and nobody gave a fuck. Even the lifeguards who were a few meters away.
The real problems are in non-white countries. Name a non-white country you could do this in.
Why don't they call this fact out?
Clothes push society more in the direction of a meritocracy for women. By collaborating to hide the size (and symmetry) of their sexual organs with clothes, they receive less special treatment for their sex appeal. These feminists lack self-awareness and foresight. Odds are, they're not an 8/10 or higher and the top 20% hottest women will be reaping all of the social and financial benefits of such a system while the bottom 80% enjoy the luxury of being topless and poor.
This argument is equally valid for men; imagine a world where the size of our cocks determined not just our social hierarchy but our career success as well.
>>67627598
>Name a non-white country you could do this in.
Many places in Africa, Brazil.
>>67627719
Addendum: Name a non-white country you could do this in and not get gang raped?
>>67624594
>If we lived in a world where women's breasts were treated the same as men's would it be that bad?
I don't know, would it? Why don't you move to a place where that is a reality and find out.
>>67624886
This. My fuck did they ever bitch and moan about it. Wasting literally millions of tax dollars in court to get muh freedom the never use except for stupid rancid SJWs on parade.
>>67624594
Be careful what you wish for
>>67627608
>Clothes push society more in the direction of a meritocracy for women. By collaborating to hide the size (and symmetry) of their sexual organs with clothes, they receive less special treatment for their sex appeal. These feminists lack self-awareness and foresight. Odds are, they're not an 8/10 or higher and the top 20% hottest women will be reaping all of the social and financial benefits of such a system while the bottom 80% enjoy the luxury of being topless and poor.
I love it, post it on every feminist tumblr and blog.
We're so used to the norm now that even if we did change this there will be a ton of perverts trying to jack off in public.
>>67624594
It's not illegal, there's no law against it. They just want society to accept it / it's censored on social media.
It would save me a lot of time if they just showed their tits. Half the time I'm only talking to them for that reason
>>67627978
I cant puke any harder than I just did
>>67627598
Not really a country but in Puerto Rico they don't really give two shits. Then again, everyone there is an assman for unknown reasons.
>>67625045
Shirtless men are sexualized aswell as shirtless women. As one I have first-hand experience seeing women oggle hot shirtless men on the beach just the same as men do to hot women. But if you're ugly nobody wants to see it
Just don't wear a fucking shirt and slowly people will just adapt And no longer think it sexual. Stop campaigning and just do it cunts.
Personally I would prefer if everyone covered just slightly more but that's just because I find it annoying and done purposely (while feigning not) when they aren't.
>>67624594
there is
i see girls complain about how men stare at them, but women stare at men as much
people don't understand dressing modestly
>>67625789
dam those are some nice looking nipples.
>>67627598
and yet the common point among all the people who dress modestly in the west is high intelligence
>>67628777
I haven't read that study. It's also completely unrelated.
>>67628838
it's not a study, it's an observation from me
people who obsess about attention are low intelligence people, and those who show off all the time have histrionic personalities, and this is a mental illness desu
>>67628935
You'd be a fun to be around on the beaches of southern France.
>Boobs aren't sexual
>its sexual assualt if you touch them though
>>67624594
Is this gif trying to make a political statement or something?
'Society', which is a blended concept comprised of an amalgamation of people, culture, history, law etc. dictates that a topless woman is, in most cases, vulgar.
I mean, fuck, what kind of women actually want to walk around topless? Is this just a bullshit "women are the same as men" thing or what? Society says it's not OK for a woman to expose her breasts. Thanks for clarifying tumblr.
I'm stumped.
>>67629005
you can be passive aggressive all you want, facts are facts and you can't deny them
>>67624594
>implying anyone should present themselves in public revealing any length of core between the neck and knees.
>>67629095
Women don't bathe topless to obsess about attention or show off. The entire basis of your angst is wrong.
>>67629050
I think it's more so the intention behind then anything else. If you accidentally touch one or are doing it scientifically/medical it isn't. If you are trying to get some then it is. This really should be applied to everything.
>>67629186
>t.virgin
>>67629293
>projecting this hard
Seems to be your forte. Just stop. Learn. Reevaluate.
>>67624594
would they mind if i slapped their tits?
>Wanting to take back a meme that's go through the normies.
This shows how horrible /pol/ is now.
Remember Frogs = death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXWlMlQEwU
>>67624594
The best part is that they are the ones no one wants to see naked. Pretty much begging for someone to look at them even if they have to be naked to receive attention. Source: related pic
>>67624594
I am support women that get nude the younger the better
Anyone who says otherwise even if you are a government agency is a bigot and sexist and should be prosecuted for discrimination
I wouldn't mind but they're tits are sexually attractive dudes arent
>>67628935
>it's not a study, it's an observation from me
>>67629095
>facts are facts and you can't deny them
French people
>>67624594
>
>>67629610
No one wants to see you with clothes on let alone top less. Don't force that travesty on anyone.
>>67629533
Pepe was always ours. Normies raped him, he was raped, and all you can do is victim shame him.
>Well if you didn't want to get raped maybe you shouldn't have gotten so popular
>maybe if you weren't such a lovable character you wouldn't have been raped
I just want my pepe back. I just want to forget that whole nightmare.
>>67629409
>women aren't attention whores, i know these things, trust me
>>67624594
the ideology, (which I largely agree with) is that boobs are sexualized to the point of being censored like a dick.
tits are honestly not a big deal. it was once a faux pas for men to go on the beach (let alone anywhere) shirtless. it was also a crime punishable by fine, up until a movement in the 30's where men protested by going shirtless to the beach. people saw it as strange but eventually largely got over it.
some women (understandably) want that, and honestly, I don't see why they shouldn't.
>>67630470
because then they whine that men stare
>>67625789
post more succulent nigger tits ffs
>>67624594
>If we lived in a world where women's breasts were treated the same as men's would it be that bad?
this is actually the case ... in germany it would not be considered to be sexual harassment to touch a womens breast ... obviously depends on the context etc but simply touching it does not mean anything
>>67624594
I don't understand, why is the guy on the right not allowed to be topless?
>men can
>women think they cant
Just another reason to complain anon
>>67624594
My problem with it is that those who scream "free the nipple" and shit completely forgot that not too long ago, showing a woman's navel in public was raunchy. People don't care anymore.
In most cases, going around shirtless isn't a legal issue. Dipshit females just confirm their own sexual stereotypes by thinking showing their nipples is a sign of government + societal revolution.
>>67624594
It's legal in most of the US.
>>67631858
Nice
>complains about how all men are perverts
>wants a legal topless law
Beside it will not change anything. Nobody wants to show off their boobs to random people
maybe this whole "woman should be allowed to go topless" is the wrong approach.
Why bot make it "not ok" for a man to walk around shirtless?
I don´t wanna lean on a seat in a café where a fat sweaty pig sat before.
There is no reason for a man to go topless. Some might say "but when is too hot outside it is better".
Actually it is not, since it increases the chances on skincancer when exposing so much skin to sunlight and the shirt soaks up ur sweat, constantly cooling you down, wich is important for those fags who shave their armpits.
If we just cut away the shit woman demand because men have it, then we can reach equality aswell, without going full degenerate in society. And those tumblr bitches couldn´t even argue against it, since it would be "anti-male"
>>67624594
>comparing men's tits to female tits cause muh equality
Let me shatter this argument
>Male tits=no purpose reproductively
>Female tits= feed offspring
Do I even need to keep going?
>>67624594
Tits are a sign of fertility, therefore sexual, needs to be treated gently and with care and not to be shown to just anyone
Pecs are a sign of strength, but I guess women wont really want their man to show off to everyone, but per se they arent sexual
shoo liberals shoo
>>67631426
>>67624594
It's just like hijab shit so yeah I think women should be able to go topless like men.
whenever cucks say something use deductive reasoning , they are real crappy at it
Also, play on social norms and conventions card,when they start complaining remind them of everything time they were conformist and looked up to it
If you feel mean degrade the conversations on purpose and subtly make things they say sound worse by saying them seemingly innocently
Works everytime and makes them crazy,
Tested
Why do women instinctively grab their breasts when aroused/having sex? Is the sexualisation of breasts by society so strong?
>>67624967
I remember being in high school during that court battle, we all though it was the dawn of a new time when women would walk around topless and we would have orgies in the streets.
Literally nothing happened. I have never seen IRL an woman walking around topless even on the beach, granted i don't go to bide beaches because I'm not a degenerate.
>>67628055
> free the nipple
> nipples are covered/censored
All these arguments for why women need to cover are sounding muslim as hell.
>>67624594
literally seen only 2 guys in my life just walking around without a shirt on in the middle of the day and it was like 100 degrees those days
>>67632235
>Do I even need to keep going?
yes please.
i get
>Female tits= feed offspring
but i don't quite follow
>feed offspring= need to be covered up
>>67632400
The nipples are erogenous zones m9. I think this is also true of guys to a lesser degree.
>>67632400
Otherwise no, theres no reason why women shouldnt walk like that,
You gotta use common sense,
Reason is not always right and positivism and rationalism are kike scams
>>67632474
What cuckolded place do you live in?
People walk around shirtless here all the time
>>67632296
Example please
>>67625789
This must also be why Africans prefer butts over breasts. Here in the West, girls walk around on beaches with pretty much no cover on their butts, and it's often considered comedic to see a male butt, so breast taboos have made them libido-inducing instead.
>>67632653
yeah, but that's a different argument. you're moving the goal posts. your original argument was very clearly
>Female tits= feed offspring
which is a bullshit argument for covering up tits, because feeding their offspring is literally the only instance where nude breasts are socially acceptable even in conservative environments. breast-feeding is almost universally tolerated, while casual nudity is not.
>>67625789
Idk I can find a similar level of attraction in a female's legs, face etc even though they're not covered all the time; I think there's a degree of natural attraction
>>67629409
Stop. Revive. Survive.
>>67624594
>is there any real argument against this?
It's haram so it's wrong.
>If we lived in a world where women's breasts were treated the same as men's would it be that bad?
Women would cheat even more than they already do.
>>67624733
It wouldn't be common to see women topless in America for a few generations.
It would be chaos in the beginning but ultimately hot chick would realize how valuable their tits were (just
as they're coming to realize what their chastity is worth). Less-than-hot-chicks follow the trends set by hot
chicks. For a long time it would be; "sorry boys, it's meant to be free, but I know what it's worth to you."
Eventually it would end up like Europe (and how often are chicks out in public topless aside from nude beaches?)
Until that point though, you'd be free to witness as many dreadlocked topless gals shirtless which would
delay the exposure of what you really want to see.
>>67625222
But, I think its degenerate for men to be topless too.
>>67624594
No one likes a douche bag that walks around with no shirt on.
>>67625789
I can see why. I'm not attracted to pears. Those things look mishaped
>>67624594
Eh, there's nothing stopping them from doing just that in Austin, Texas and surely other places as well.
>>67624594
>Is there any legit argument to this?
Bras hurt like shit apparently. And productivity would spiral down as guys stared at boobs all day.
lol who gives a fuck what women want
>>67624935
Nobody wants to see your shortcomings.
>>67635625
despite of the Popular opinion on pol silent majority are libtards,
solve the politics quiz threads confirm it
>>67635469
rare flag
Men's breasts have no sexual connotations, women's do
That's how it is
Imagine if men walking around with their bollocks hanging out, what then?
>>67624594
When was the last time you saw a man's tities and got attracted?
>>67624594
The only time i see a topless man happen is when playing a sport or swimming. Both of which women require supports for their bags of fat
>>67635828
ftfy
I live in a US city where it is legal for women to be topless in public. However, absolutely no women do this, for the obvious reason that it attracts unwanted attention.
>"Whoa! You've got some BIG-ASS tits!"
>"Hey, nice boobs!"
>"Can I touch your nipples?"
Going topless is just asking to be 'stare-raped'.
>>67628935
So you expect us to take an "observation" from some frog on /pol/ as truth?
In romania it's okay and grills do it at the beach sometimes. It's pretty fun
Men would constantly stare and it would give them more reason to hate us.
Women don't understand what it's like to have a penis.
>>67636541
>stare raped
>implying it stops at that
>>67637943
not one of things to brag about on places like this dude
not trying to be mean (serious), jsut a friendly advice
