Can you be a National Socialist without also being a white supremacist?
>>67622556
Of course, Mr. Sanders.
>>67622556
of course
>>67622556
yes, but where's the fun in that?
everyone should be proud of their race.
>>67622556
Yeah.
>>67622556
yeah jews
>>67623963
What if I don't hate Jews can I still be a National Socialist?
>>67622556
Yes, even some Jews served in the Wermacht under NatSoc Germany.
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/as-many-as-150000-jews-served-in-hitlers-military/
>>67622636
It's a meme that people think the two go hand in hand. They don't, really.
Also: First post; worst post.
white seperatism is not the same as 'white supremacy'.
>>67622556
Absolutely
Yep.
My Great Grandfather, who was a member of the NSDAP and the brown shirts and ended up in the Kriegsmarine was Jewish who embraced being German as an identity.
>>67622556
Uh, yeah.
White nationalism/separatism is vastly more in line with national socialism than white supremacy like apartheid South Africa or Rhodesia.
People get the two confused a lot, but white nationalism and white supremacy are totally different beasts.
You need a motivation to keep all the socialist accomplishments like free higher education, health care, welfare etc. confined to just your nationals. Otherwise it's just like Germany today with free stuff for all the niggers who make it to our country, and you just don't have a NATIONAL socialism anymore. A national or race pride is the way to achieve keeping free stuff to your own people.
It's kind of hard to rule over niggers when there aren't any anywhere near you.
>>67622556
Considering that every single non-white nation on this planet is nationalist... yes?
>>67622556
yes, bernie is a natsoc.
>>67622556
White supremacy is retarded. Human biodiversity is very real but there is no objective supremacy or inferiority. Northern Europeans have higher IQs on average than Australian Aboriginals, and they used them to create weapons which could literally wipe out out own species. Meanwhile Abos sleep in the middle of roads, but they're not going to cause a nuclear winter.
The only type of nationalism I'm interested in is the non-interventionist type that respects the rights of all peoples to live unmolested in their countries.
>>67625827
Agreed 100%
t. Anti-war, radical-environmentalist, national socialist
>>67622556
Are you against white supremacy in white countries? What part of the moniker scares you? NS is by nature a ideology that promotes the idea that a people should have a strong leadership that is organic and of it's own. It does not say whites should rule africa it says africans should rule africa. It says arabs should rule in the arab world. It does however not deny the obvious scientific facts that the average white have superior intellect to the average brown and red people, and only slightly inferior to the orientals.
>>67622556
The problem with national socialism is the same as all other Marxist totalitarian ideologies - you need to create an us vs them narrative so you can strip "them" of their property to make up for the gross inefficiencies and corruption in your system.
Socialism is a shit ideology no matter what you combine it with. Be it nationalism, internationalism, feminism, white supremacism whatever.
Would be nice if socialism died and stayed dead.
>>67624027
We only really hate the corruption that the jewish elites bring, not jews as such. But having jews and avoiding jewish corruption has proven futile over two thousand years of jew-goy relations.
You can not be NS without wanting to expell the jews and their corrupt powerstructure.
Few want to actaully kill jews, outside of the select bunch at the top who have been herding the whole world as cattle for their ponzi scheeme of a banking system for the last few decades. They should rightfully be purged from this world with no remorce.
>>67625827
>no objective supremacy or inferiority
That's patently false. This is cultural relativism extended to race.
>b-but backwater savages in africa who rape babies because they think it cures aids isn't inferior to not raping babies
>>67626742
>Marxist totalitarian ideologies
Wow you're fucking dumb. Maybe you should go read a book or two before you start conflating marx with NS. They're diametricly opposed.
i'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dbfXp8_qjo
>>67622556
I consider myself to be a non-anti-semetic National Socialist actually. Jews were the enemy of Germany in the early 20th century, but translated into today's terms, that same type of threat exists from new threats.
>>67627026
Why have as much right to racial self-determination and sovereignty as we do. Who are we to judge. Just better yourself.
>>67627069
They are opposed on social equality which doesn't matter because things like Stalinism which were spawned by Marxism are just as unequal socially. The economic principles are almost identical.
Why don't you shove your books up your arse, commie twat?
>>67627255
*They have
>>67627026
I just mean that from a purely biological standpoint, the only way to measure the 'success' of an organism is in its ability to survive and pass on its genetic material through reproduction. With white populations declining everywhere and in many cases having birth-rates below replacement levels, we don't currently have much to stand on there. Meanwhile 40% of the world will be African before the end of the century.
On the other hand, eventually a large meteor is going to swing by with Earth in in sights, and if technology that we can thank the scientific revolution for helps us take care of that one we'll earn some more survivability cred.
>>67625827
>Human biodiversity is very real but there is no objective supremacy or inferiority.
I disagree. I believe supremacy and inferiority are very real, but I also believe it's not worth arguing over or taking too seriously, as It contributes nothing overall to either party.
It makes great bantz though, like two countries arguing over who has the better football team.
>>67622556
sure why not. i just don't like the association with 3rd reich.
>>67628837
Yeah too mainstream, 2nd reich was way better
>>67622556
Yes.
>>67622556
I'm a social-nationalist and I believe whites are the most inferior skin-colour-coordinated-category on the planet
>>67626742
>The problem with national socialism is the same as all other Marxist totalitarian ideologies - you need to create an us vs them narrative so you can strip "them" of their property
The collectivistic chutzpah is strong with this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbgT4BrsNI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU
>>67622556
HEIL
>>67629413
>muh collectivism
>promotes socialism
>>67629726
>promotes socialism
Read the FAQ
http://www.big-lies.org/jews/guide-for-the-perplexed-about-jews.html
>>67622556
>Can you be a National Socialist without also being a white supremacist?
Can you find a decent book and learn to read? National socialism was an ethno-nationalist variant of fascism, aryanism was an ethno-linguistic racial distinction (nordicism that is often confused for aryanism was an aesthetic racial distinction, not unique to German or natsoc). There were non-white national socialists, and Hitler considered the Japanese and Persians cousin races to the Aryans.
> national socialism is about each distinct ethnicity having their own nations where they independently determined their own destinies
> contrast with decadent liberal cosmopolitanism, aka "multiculturalism"
>>67622556
Definitely.