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Indiana now the 2nd state to ban abortions of Down's babies
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>Literally restricting a woman's rights to her own body
>Forcing rape victims to give birth to fugly little shits
JUST FUCK MY STATE UP

>ELECT TRUMP
>MAKE ABORTIONS GREAT AGAIN
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Disgusting. These should be the things women are ALLOWED to get vacuumed out of their vaginas.
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>>67608243
Wait I thought that you couldn't make abortions illegal?
Also
>forcing citizens to waste money on genetically damaged fetuses instead of just letting them abort it and try again

What the fuck is this shit?
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>>67608243
They ought to allow post-birth abortions instead, that'd be alright
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>banning abortion on Downies
0/10
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fucking Christcucks are at it again
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>>67608469
States can pass whatever laws they want. They can then be challenged in court and either dismissed or upheld.
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it's more than down syndrome; you can't get an abortion based on ethnicity, sex, or any "disability" i can't wait to move out of this idiotic state.
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indiana resident

all of my wat

>the fetuses with the most reason to be aborted

>made illegal

>what is this backwards world
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>>67608685
Pick me up and take me with you please.
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>>67608243
Literally retarded.
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Wow. Talk about regressive policies. Christians are fucking morons.
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>>67608800
brah, we're moving to denver
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>>67608243
>actual dysgenics
Aborting downies should be mandatory.
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I am very far right on everything except abortion. I do not think it should be legal but it is a necessary evil. Imagine how many more niglets we would have running around without abortion.
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>>67608243
I don't understand how this works,, isn't abortion already legal in Indiana?
So are downies the only babies they can't abort?
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>>67608469
>Wait I thought that you couldn't make abortions illegal?

You can't. If this doesn't get struck down by a circuit court then the Supreme Court will do it since Scalia's dead.
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>>67608243
>WE'RE GONNA BUILD A WALL AROUND THE VAGINA
>JUST GOT 10FT LONGER
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>>67608243
It's probably going to be struck down.
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>>67608685
can't you just say you're aborting for some other reason?
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>>67609038
We're full REEEEEEEEE
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>>67608243
>all these Hoosiers in this thread
Sup bros

At least we tried to block rapefugees and maintain our right to refuse fags service. Havinf religious conservatives run our state has its good sides and bad.
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>>67609110
Abortion is legal, but its incredibly restricted to the point where it's pretty much illegal to even think about having an abortion.
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>>67608243
I thought this was ruled unconstitutional how can they stop it
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>>67608243
Which state was first?
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shouldn't it be the other way around?

fucking mid westerners
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>>67608744
county?
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>>67609288
>I-I fell down some stairs on "accident :^)". W-will my baby be okay?

Also, sup Hoosierbros? Anyone /260/?
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>>67609110
>>67609284
>>67609288
Understand, it's not based in any expectation of preventing abortions. It's about framing. The purpose of the act is to reframe the abortion narrative away from "muh body, muh choice". Every act like this, even though effectively impotent if challenged, draws back to the subject and reminds the audience what the nature of the thing is.
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>>67609736
North Dakota I think.
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>>67608243
Down syndrome is one of the cases where abortion SHOULD be allowed. It's better than bringing an abomination into the world.
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>>67609860
317
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>>67609736
whichever state you were born in
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>>67608243

>All people are equal
>Kill disabled in the womb so they dont make me feel bad

The mind of the modern leftist.
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>>67609968
>Male babies are one of the cases where abortion SHOULD be allowed. It's better than bringing an abomination into the world
>Whites are one of the cases where abortion SHOULD be allowed. It's better than bringing an abomination into the world
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>>67609840
allen
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>>67608243
Aborting retards should be mandatory. You think anyone wants to be wheeled around making loud moaning noises while they drool all over themselves? You think people want to look after something like that? I bet most people don't think about it but these vegetables have to have people change their diapers and clean up their retard shit off their retard ass.

Fucking Christians my god. Fucking kill yourselves.
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The number of abortions per year in the US is just north of a million, roughly equivalent to the number of immigrants we take in per year, and equivalent to 25% of actual live births (just north of four million). Only about 33% of abortions are to white mothers, compared to 50% of live births. More than half of women getting abortions for any reason have a FAMILY income (young women included parental income) below the poverty line. White women were significantly more likely to record health issues as the reason for their abortion (which would probably be kept legal in any abortion-banning scenario), while minority women were significantly more likely to report financial and partnership issues (which would not).

So, in conclusion, PRO-LIFE IS CODEWORD FOR WHITE GENOCIDE
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>>67608243
Just Fuck My State Up Tbh
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>>67608243
Down Syndrome babies should be aborted by default. Any retard baby for that matter.
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>>67608243
We failed you Hitler
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>>67610420
>So, in conclusion, PRO-LIFE IS CODEWORD FOR WHITE GENOCIDE

It's even good for blacks, really.

You can have working class and middle class black families. Or you can have abortion banned, and then a flood of single mothers living in the projects having child after child. How is that helping black people? It's a way for white Christians to both bring down the black community and flood the US with millions of young blacks living in the projects with single mothers.
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>>67610681
Only with consent of the parents. However, if they choose to keep the retard, he shall receive no public funding.
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How early can you find out if it's retarded? I'm not against abortion really as long as it's really early. I don't see why you would wait until late in the pregnancy to do it
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>>67610384
you weren't the guy with the honda civic covered in ron paul bumper stickers, were you?
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>>67608243
>I don't believe in God so the 6th Commandment doesn't apply to me
faggot
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>>67608243
Are you fucking serious? Who wants a downy?
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Expect SIDS to skyrocket in Indiana.
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>>67610032
Ayyy
Southwest side of the city
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>>67611098

That's fair.
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>>67609087
This. Aborting undesirables is a necessary measure for a healthy society
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>>67608243
>restricting a woman's rights to her own body
Restricting men's rights to their own bodies

A fetus is formed from part of a woman's body and part of a man's. His body, his choice.
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>>67611310
nope sorry

that would be a huge fucking coincidence
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>>67608915
(You) for beannigger.
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>>67608243
>Literally restricting a woman's right to kill her child
>Not killing kids for being ugly
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>>67611943
>downies
>human
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>>67612070
>degenerate child killers
>human
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>>67612228
>brain hasn't formed
>souls aren't real
>downie
>"human"

top kek
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Tons of Downies are good people. There's also Downy geniuses, believe it or not.
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Since when did you need a reason for an abortion?
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>>67612531
No there isn't. Stop lying.
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>>67612520
>lol it can't talk yet lets kill it cuz I don't want responsibilities
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>>67608585

Christcuck here. Id abort those things faster than you can say DUDE
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>>67613173
>actually my point
>if it tries to communicate we can spare it
>till then its life is in our hands
>an egg cell is just as sentient as an early fetus
>but you don't advocate women being pregnant at every possible opportunity
>lets just kill the egg since we dont want responsibilities
>oh wait its the same as killing a sea cucumber
>stop being retarded
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>>67610104
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>>67613627
>kids are killed in the second trimester
>he calls this an egg
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>>67608243
"As soon as a child was born in Sparta, the mother would wash it with wine, in order to make sure that it was strong. If the child was weak, it would die soon. Later it was brought by his father to the elders, who inspected carefully the newborn infant. If they found that the child was deformed or weakly, they threw it into Kaiada, the so called Apothetae, a chasm at a cliff, of the mount Taygetos."
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>>67614094
>same level of sentience- none
>the fact it has the potential to be human is equivalent to an egg
>ie it doesn't matter in the slightest
>go home christcuck
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can't you just drive to another state for the procedure?
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>>67608243

>abort downs baby
NOT OK
>abort normal baby
OK


>this is the fucking world we live in now
Fuck it don't stop the ride speed it up I want to see how fast we can crash this motherfucker.
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The fetus having a severe genetic handicap is literally one of the only morally acceptable reasons to have an abortion though.
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>>67608243
well I guess there's always "I only turned away from the bathtub for a minute!"
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>>67608243
Trump is pro-life. You're so retarded, this law actually protects people like you.
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>>67608488
Maybe they're setting the stage for downie hunting.
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>>67615098
Or if the fetus is non white.
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>>67614094
you're retarded.
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>>67615673
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>"Abortions are free. I mean, it costs nothing mto fall down the stairs..."
>"Jeez, it's like they think I'm MADE of coat hangars..."
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>>67610318
Don't you have some chromosomes to steal
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>Ilegal to abort down babies
What the actual fuck america? christ-cuck lobby?
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>>67608243
>implying the developing embryo is the woman's body
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>>67616104
In Indiana, these kind of laws have been the norm. I mean, they passed a bill allowing people to openly deny gays in their establishments.

Nothing new for the one of the final KKK strongholds, I suppose.
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>>67616108
>Implying that the embryo isn't a parasite
>Not wanting women to be cured of said parasite
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>>67611491
underrated
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>>67609313
>>67609038
Goddammit I wanted to move to Colorado since I was like 10 because I love the mountains and hiking in addition to having family there. Now all these midwesterners are moving there and raisng prices of everything and generally faggin up the place. It's not a place that is going to make you or your boring, bland midwest life more interesting. It's not a place that is going to magically improve your life. Fucking hoosiers and cheeseniggers. Fuck I am so mad.
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>>67616478
They rewrote that one a week later to specifically bar business from discriminating gays etc. It was the exact opposite of what was intended.
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I think its time to vote those fuckers out, VOTE THE FUCKERS OUT. Get rid of those retard legislators
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Can we stop pretending Christianity is /pol/ compatible now?
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>>67616104

>welp, this kid is black, better throw him in the trash.
>welp, this kid has downs, better throw him in the trash.
>welp, this kid has chance of ALS, better throw him in the trash.
>welp, this kid has dyslexia, better throw him in the trash.

>welp, this kid is imperfect by my standards, and I am 100% sure that he will not have a good life, so we better just kill'em

If you honestly believe that human pleasure and convenience is more important than human life, the cultural marxist brainwashing has done its job. Good goy!
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>>67616865
What did hoosiers ever do to you?
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>>67608469
Except when it's on oppressed babies!

Next they'll ban abortions of black babies.
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>>67617025
Not until all of Humankind accepts the fact that we have literally 0 idea about what happens after death, and realize the only way to proceed is to be agnostic. We don't know. WE DON'T KNOW

WE
DON'T
KNOW

STOP
PRETENDING
YOU
DO

YOU DON'T
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>>67617435
But that's racist to the whites tho.
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>>67617265
They shoved corn up my ass and forced me to play basketball while I was gagged with a pork tenderloin.
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>>67608243
Eradicating Downies will destroy a key GOP demographic though......
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>>67617573
Did any of them have Harry Baals?
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>>67609038
>>67616865
DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>67617263
You are not hurting anyone when you destroy a fetus. Human life is more valuable than insect life because humans are more complex, have a more sophisticated experience of their environment, have connections with each other, etc. None of that applies to a fetus. The only reason to think that terminating human life at its earliest stages is worse than terminating household pests is to think that you think there is an invisible wizard in the sky who doesn't want you to terminate human life.
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>>67608469
>mfw a pregnant woman with a down baby has to file a case to repeal this
>mfw the baby will be born by the time the case is decided
>mfw baby will live knowing entire life mom wanted to abort them
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>>67618119
I agree. Also, by definition, a fetus is a PARASITE. So if you want to force women to grow a PARASITE in their body against their will, you're a terrible person.
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>>67617549
>racist
>Against whites

I think you're forgetting something.


Look at the date by the flag, tell me friend.

What is the digit just before the day of the week?
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>>67618327
>implying propagation of your genes is not a benefit
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>>67618358
>leddit telling me what to do
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>>67618435
Sure, unless you want to use the derogatory term of the word. I can highlight that, too.
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>>67617509
> accepts the fact that we have literally 0 idea about what happens after death
We actually do know what happens after death.
>B-b-b-but what if the brain is actually a magical energy entity called soul !!1
You're not an agnostic you're in denial because you're afraid of death, man up little bitch.
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>>67618119

>fetuses = insects
>the only way a fetus would equal a human is if the wizardInSky existed!

>what is natural law?

Are you listening to yourself?
I'm not even going to argue this shit, but you should know that this "abortion does nothing wrong" thinking is the type of shit that will finally lead to 1984, and eventually the end of humanity.

If watching humanity burn is your thing, then by all means. Your perfectly shaped and cooked-to-regulation children will thank you for it
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>>67616691
>mfw you were also a parasite to a womyn b4
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>>67618327

humans = parasite

>a fetus isn't human! It's a parasite?

How exactly do you people get to this idea?
At what point does a """""fetus"""""" (parasite) become an actual human?

When it ceases being a sack of chemicals??!!1
Newsflash, your a sack of chemicals now?
Why should I kill all of the parasites in this thread right nao?
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>>67608243

>Literally going out of your way to make sure downies exist

Is this really what American evangelists are up to these days?
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>>67608243
trump is pro choice, btw.
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>>67619073
[Citation]
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>>67618761
Of course, and I could've been aborted, too. Meanwhile, your second-world country won't let your women abort or they'll be sent to prison. Kek
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>>67618247
the baby is retarded, it barely knows what it's name is
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>>67608243
Its cruel to let those little musters run the earth, eating feces and jerking off everywhere.. abortions should always be allowed for ds babies no matter what
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>>67618747
I never implied that fetuses are equivalent to insects. I didn't even imply that killing them is morally equivalent to killing insects. I said, quite clearly, that there are reasons that it is immoral to kill humans and those reasons do not apply to fetuses.

Misrepresenting my statement and pretending that disagreeing with you is going to result in the apocalypse is nothing short of anti-intellectual, which makes it more than a little ironic that you think you understand Orwell.
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>>67619516

>"You are not hurting anyone when you destroy a fetus"
>"Human life is more valuable than insect life" [...] None of that applies to a fetus."

>The *only reason* to think that terminating human life at its earliest stages is worse than terminating household pests is to think that you think there is an invisible wizard in the sky who *doesn't want you to terminate human life*

*doesn't want you to terminate human life*
*doesn't want you to terminate human life*
*doesn't want you to terminate human life*

Mate, since you said I mis-represented your argument, I re read you post and found that you proved my point from the beginning.

>there are reasons that it is immoral to kill humans and those reasons do not apply to fetuses

meaning....? That fetuses aren't human.

see my post: >>67619060
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>>67618327
any peson that gets pregnant against their will has either been raped or is just retarded
in the first case abortion is needed
in the second all hope is lost
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>>67618327
The whole parasite argument is just semantics. The more important point is that complications of pregnancy can have negative effects on a woman's health, and there is even a small risk of death. A woman is always taking on a risk by carrying a pregnancy, and it doesn't make any sense to deny them the choice of whether or not to take on that risk, if the choice is available.
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>>67619278
And it feels good. We are saving our future generations from tyrant SJWs
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>>67619986
see >>67620012
Whether or not a fetus is alive, whether or not a fetus is human, etc, is just semantics. It depends exclusively on what those words mean. If you base your morality on what words mean, you are doing it wrong.
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>>67608744
Get out, we don't want you here
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>niggers rape married white mother
>she's forced to carry the child
>her family now has to raise a nigger baby

b-but jesus
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>>67609191
Supreme Court can not completely over ride state law, you can appeal a case, but they can't just declare whatever they want in a state.
>no one has a right to abortion
>the right to ones body is ambiguous because the state can define what is and is not your body in relation to other entities
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Couldn't you have the downie diagnosed somewhere and then just go to an abortion clinic and pretend you don't know it's a retard baby? Or would they themselves check beforehand
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>>67608446
first post best post
pack it in
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Libertarians: Do as we say, not as we do.
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>>67608243
Why can't there be a purist country where we can cast off our genetic weakness in communal goal to improve our species through superior stock? But nooooo, we have to live with cucks and work hard to support tards.
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>>67609087
This is a faulty comparison. Even though niggers get abortions at a higher rate than whites, whites still get more on a numeric basis, and considering we have abortions in white countries, yet in nigger countries they won't get an abortion to save their life, the global statistics on abortion are heavily slanted to be a source of white genocide. There's a reason it's primarily supported by Kikes. Don't be a useful idiot, save white lives, end abortion.
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Be honest guys. Would you rather raise a downy, or a full on autist? I'm talking about they hit themselves and can barely speak autist, not the meme kind
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>>67620158

>whether or not a fetus is human is semantics
>what do these words mean?

dear lordy boy this is mental gymnastics at its finest.

It is simple, "fetus" = "human", because what else can it be? The body has the intention of making a "human". That intention i called a fetus.

OP is talking about a case in which the mother is going to abort the "fetus" or "human intention" not because she doesn't like the fetus, BUT BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT LIKE THE RESULTING HUMAN.
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>>67620783
Autists can still be high functioning

I'd take the gamble instead of settling for someone who is guaranteed to be stupid and mildly physically handicapped

I'd still abort them both though
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>>67620010

1) We can't punish children for the misdeeds of their parents, especially not by murder.
2) should we just kill off all the children of low IQ people now then? I mean they're dumb and so obviously don't deserve to live...
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>>67620633
If all life isn't precious then none of it is, including your worthless existence. Your mom shouldve taken a moneyshot to the face and rid us of your stupidity
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>>67620929
aborting rape babies is simply not rewarding the rapist
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>>67620929
>abortion = killing kids
Come on man
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>>67608243

The Jews push dysgenics in white societies to further damage the number of fertile, competent whites that each successive generation has. This goes alongside forcing miscegenation through propaganda, and using wars to cull fighting age men.

I get the feeling that the globalist Jews are having a very hard time with the US, that their European tactics are simply not working as well.
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>>67608243
>It's only right that women should be allowed to abort whenever they want
>Aborting children with defects is wrong!
Someone really said this to. Abort the healthy children and keep the defective ones.

Fucking hell.
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How the fuck does this work?
>"Reason for abortion"
>Down syndrome
>"You fucking cis white ableist piece of-"
>nvm I just want to be a free independent woman with no financial obligations are personal responsibility
>"lol right this way m'am"
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>>67620633

Society will do this naturally over time, as it always has.

Natural selection at work, any species of creature will over time adapt to be better suited for it's environment. For humans this likely means a push towards higher intelligence now that we're in the information age, but it's hard to say exactly how this shift will manifest itself. It seems we're in a weird stage of expansion for our species right now, largely due to our overwhelming surplus of resources, but have no doubt when we hit peak population we'll once again move towards a state of population contraction, and when that happens it will take the form of culling the low IQ. And that can't happen soon enough imo, #niggergenocide when.
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>>67621074
In the future, genetics will make it possible to ensure no child is born with a defect ever again
BUT people who do so will be viewed as intolerant, and the trendy progressive thing to do will be to GIVE your developing child some kind of handicap
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>>67621025

Reward him with prison, and throw the baby in an adoption home. How fucking hard is that?

It's piss easy for a newborn white baby to get adopted these days btw, with all the faggot couples adopting and shit, the only kids who make it to orphanages are already feral children, aka nigglets and kids who were heavily abused before being taken by CPS.
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>>67621478
im trying not to spread genes that make rapists and trying to prevent a man hating single mother
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>>67608243
>Literally restricting a woman's rights to her own body
Are you your mother's body?
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>>67621074
We're literally a society of slave morality now- strength, vitality, etc are considered bad
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>>67621324
When the bloke said "aborting defective children is wrong" I replied that he has a very nazi ish opinion since he is trying to tell people what they can and can't do. He started screaming.

I think Internet leftism has started to cause brain damage.
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>>67621478
also
>rape
>white baby
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>>67621542

A white child born of a rapist and raised by a single mother is more beneficial to our society than importing Muhammad from Afghanistan.
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>>67621563
since 50% of his dna was passed through the mother's egg, technically yes
half of him is his mother
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>>67610384
>>67609840
kosciusko county reporting fuck down syndrome kids
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>>67621639
you mean less worse

and i dont want either to leech of my neetbux
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>>67621592

I think whites still commit more rapes in America than blacks, even though the rate of rapes per capita is obviously much higher from blacks. For somewhere like here in Canada where we have very few nogs, it's no contest. Yes white people do rape occasionally.

I actually support aborting niglet rape children, but it'd be impossible to keep abortion legal for niggers and make it illegal for whites so complete outlawing of abortions is the next best case.
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>>67608243
It's a shame they can't abort Trump voters.
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>>67621872
so if we abort the rape babys of whites we will eradicate possible rape genes in the white population
and the rape gene if there is one would be something that i dont want to have around me
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>>67621845
Whitley County master race reporting.

Fuck the Downers.
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>>67621857

Good luck with that.

IMO if abortion can reduce importing muslims and niggers it's worth it 100%. You can say you don't want either but it's useless addressing political issues with an all or nothing stance, concessions have to be made for the sake of practicality.
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>>67615211
Trump believes abortion is a state's rights issue. He'd be for Indiana's law. He would also be for, say, California removing all restrictions on abortion. You can't pigeonhole him one way or the other.
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>>67622073

But if abortion means your replacement rate is lower and that prompts more immigration of muslims and niggers (who will obviously have more of these supposed rape genes than any white) than you're worse off than when you began.
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>2016
>residing in Indiana by choice
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>>67621946
It's a shame we can't deport you, but we still strike down that rat you sent us.
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>>67609038
Said fuck it and went to Ky
Catch a- trucks..how fitting
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>>67620803
Rather than address the point that you base your morality on semantics, you've made a semantic assertion. Nice.

>what else could it be
it could be a fetus

>The body has the intention of making a "human". That intention i called a fetus.
As much as I hate to make a semantic argument at this point, a fetus is not an intention. You could call it a potential human, perhaps. Note that I'm not hanging my moral position on this argument.

>OP is talking about a case in which the mother is going to abort the "fetus" or "human intention" not because she doesn't like the fetus, BUT BECAUSE SHE DOES NOT LIKE THE RESULTING HUMAN.
I don't disagree with the idea that the morality of doing a thing can depend on why you're doing it, or even that there's not a very valid debate to be had about the morality of preferring one genome over another when deciding whether or not to have a baby. I think I still fall on the side of thinking it's okay, but I do admit that there are good arguments against it. However, that's not the argument that I originally responded to. The argument I originally responded to was about "killing kids" or something.
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>>67622289
i dont mean abortion in general
i mean a very specific circumstance that would account for a negligible amount of cases
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>>67622127
>>67621845

Fuck people with downs syndrome. With their genetic disease, their small noses, and their ayy lmao faces. AND! Their multiple chromosomes!
Downs people are oppressing me.
Any "fetus" that doesn't fit my definition of a perfect "human" should be able to be killed.

Freedom aint free.
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>>67616478
> they passed a bill allowing people to openly deny gays in their establishments.
Nothing wrong with that. Gays are disgusting animals who should be seeking treatment, not getting married. Go back to plebbit.

>>67616691
>implying all parasites are bad.

>>67619278
>and I could've been aborted, too.
Yeah, shame. Your parents dropped the ball on that one.
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>>67608243

What the fucking fuck? They should be making laws requiring abortion of downies.
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>>67622473

Are you sure? What's to stop women from lying and saying they got raped to get abortions? You know for a fact there'd be very low accountability in this regard and most government programs pertaining to the issue would be ran by women and would do their best to let it slide and let the lying sluts get abortions.
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>>67608243
Trump is strongly pro-choice, btw.
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>>67622866

He used to be strongly pro choice, but now he's a pro life moderate. I believe his current stance is to let states determine their own laws for abortion even though he's personally against it.
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>>67618327
Except about the point a parasite and a foreign body living off yours that your body tries to kill instead of putting a red carpet for it retard.

I'm pro-choice but people like you hurt the cause with your retarded analogies.
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just more of their own version of sharia law from the religious fundies
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>>67609087
>I am very far right on everything except abortion.

I don't believe you. I'm sick of all these liberals posing as conservatives to try to get us to believe your bullshit. There are lowlifes who keep posing as conservatives who believe in climate change too.

Never trust anyone who thinks they have to start a post by telling you they're right-wing.
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>>67622853
you have to get a judge to decide if it was rape
since that can take a while there might be a pre judgement from someone else, but if the result of that doesnt coincide with the judges and a baby was aborted unjustly off comes the liears head
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What if you have a down sinners kid but you dont wanna take care of it? Can you give it away?
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>>67622452

>a fetus is a fetus
circular.

>You made a semantic assertion, I make a semantic assertion, everyone makes a semantic assertion
I don't think you understand the meaning of "semantic", but I'm not going to argue semantics.

>questionable to prefer one genome over another
"one genome" = "one human"
sorry, semantics.

>the original argument I responded to was about killing kids

Have we reached the point where we can say that "aborting fetuses" is the same as "killing kids"?
No? Too many semantics? Too many gymnastics. Too many kids.

I think it's time to state my opinion that I think abortion as a public policy is a necessary evil. However, when a society gets entrenched in this idea that abortion is ""semantically""" different from putting the brakes on the train of life, so to speak, aren't we devaluing human life.
If you aren't perfect, why do you live?
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>>67622922
Good, that's the proper stance.

The States have become infantalised by the Federal Government.
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>>67622922
Any reason you think that's his actual stance and not just a thing he says because he's running in the GOP?
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>it's illegal to abort a baby if it has down's syndrome
>instead of mandatory

Just what the fuck?
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>perfectly healthy baby
>lol go ahead abort the little shit

>retard potato baby
>NO IT'S LIFE IS PRECIOUS

Someone should have aborted the downies who wrote this law.
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WHAAAAAAT this is like the only reason I WOULD feel an abortion is right and just. Genetically, trisomy embryos are SUPPOSED to be non-viable and self-terminate!
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>>67623120

Nah, for most cases it would just be a medical staffer signing off if it was rape or not. Going to a judge would be a huge waste of resources.
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>>67618247
Can't she just go to a state that allows said abortions?
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>>67624421

indiana is trying damn hard to be one of the worst states
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Just wait. If a gay or tranny gene is ever isolated then the Democrats will become more pro-life than the Republicans.
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>>67624081

Regardless of what his actual feelings are on the matter, I feel he's likely sincere about giving states the rights to decide this matter for themselves, which is more than acceptable IMO.
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>>67624526
>was raped
>doesnt go to court

choose one
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>>67608243
All retards should be aborted desu. Thank Hitler for race hygiene laws which are still in effect here, lel.
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If this isn't followed up by a bill allowing medical experiments to be tested on downies I don't know what the fuck to think of Indiana
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>>67624616

Girls can get raped and choose to go to a rape counselor or a doctor for it and not file a case.

Or they can never find the perpetrator in which case again no court.
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Guess what the other state is? Gee golly Ohio.
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If downies are so great it should be acceptable to drink during pregnancy.
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>>67624661
Explain Merkel then.
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God damnit. I'm not pro choice, but I am pro aborting niggers, downies, etc.
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>>67624421
>>67624560
Look at our flag, looks like those troll Aussies though.
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>>67624908
sue against undetermined person
rape can usually be heavily implied by signs of struggle, witnesses and so on without the perpetrator being present

if someone commits a serious crime against you you should go to court
if you dont go to court the criminal has won and you are a cuck
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>>67608243
So a healthy baby can be aborted but a retarded cant?
What prevents women going to another state where it is allowed?
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>>67608243
Great. Now everyone with a downie will just go to Ohio or Illinois to get an abortion instead.

I for one support abortion anyway, but this is pretty pathetic.
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>>67625132
>What prevents women going to another state where it is allowed?
Not sure if serious but poverty is the number one roadblock to abortion in states with few clinics. Going to another state is outright impossible for many.
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>>67625174
After today I'm pretty sure Ohio is retarded anyway.
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>>67624473
RARE FLAG
GALF ERAR
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>>67618247
Not really, you can force cases through the courts in a hurry if it's... well, in a hurry. And the suppreme court's decision has been made clear time and again. It'd be rubber stamped.
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>>67625092

Women are always cucks m8.
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>>67608243
>daily reminder that Indiana was the first state in the US to pass compulsory eugenics legislation calling for the sterilization of the profoundly mentally ill and developmentally disabled

They've gone soft on us. Typical liberal guilt over policies that may have worked had medical science been more advanced at the time

http://www.iupui.edu/~eugenics/
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>>67608243
>forcing women to be vegetable farmers
I hope they at least get money from the government.
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>>67625132
"Let's completely drop the notion that people seeking abortions aren't performing an illegal act."
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>>67625469
but they usually choose the bull themselves
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>>67623586
>What is an apple called, if it's not a vegetable?
>How about you call it an apple?
>but that's circular logic!

>I don't think you understand the meaning of "semantic", but I'm not going to argue semantics.
You don't think so because you are fundamentally failing to see that it's stupid to base a moral decision on whether or not a thing is encompassed by the meaning of a word, which is because the meaning of a word is completely arbitrary. What you're saying is that if something is not a human, a certain set of moral rules don't apply to it. Calling a fetus a human or calling it a parasite doesn't change reality, and the reality of the situation is that the thing we're talking about possesses none of the qualities of a human that normally make it immoral to kill a human.

>"one genome" = "one human"
I have no idea what you're talking about, or whether or not you think I've used this word incorrectly. A genome is an organism's entire set of genetic material.

>Have we reached the point where we can say that "aborting fetuses" is the same as "killing kids"?
You can call it whatever you want. That doesn't make it immoral.

>I think it's time to state my opinion that I think abortion as a public policy is a necessary evil. However, when a society gets entrenched in this idea that abortion is ""semantically""" different from putting the brakes on the train of life, so to speak, aren't we devaluing human life.
Abortion is in no way evil, although it could potentially be used for evil. So could an Internet connection, though.

>If you aren't perfect, why do you live?
I have no idea what you're talking about. Being genetically perfect would be awesome. Maybe not so much for everyone else, though.
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>>67608243
don't Christcucks
Believe down-syndrome children are spawn of Satan?!
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>>67609736
Idaho the potato state.
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tfw you were born genetically healthy and not born with
>dahn thindwome
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>>67608243
Just what we need
More liberal voters being born
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>>67625264
Kek
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>>67625719
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God damnit I work at a store down the street from a mental health institution , and I have to deal with downies on the daily. Now they're numbers are sure to increase.
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>>67625770
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>>67608243
>>67608446
Aborting downies should be obligatory.
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>>67625866
Most easily defeated zombie horde ever.
Unless they retain retard strength.
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>>67608446
This, I am pro life but it is really cruel to knowingly bring a person like that into this world.
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>>67625770
>tfw
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>pro-choicers hate it for obvious reasons
>pro-lifers hate it because it discriminates against the other babies
kek
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>>67626392
Actually no, Pro-lifers don't mind because a baby isn't a mindless statistic to us. Bringing a child with downs synrdome into this world is hard, not just for the child, but the parents. That person needs care literally for the rest of their life. That isn't morally right in my opinion, and a lot of people would agree with me that its not wrong to prevent the birth of a deformed child. You are doing it a favor.
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