>Inherits a budget surplus.
>Turns it into a deficit.
>Racks up $4 trillion in debt in Iraq alone.
Is George W Bush literally the worst president since Jimmy Carter?
Yes, him and Obama.
>>67595463
He gave America the best assfucking of any president and since Americans love it in their ass, I'd say he was probably the best president they'll ever have.
>>67595463
There was never a budget surplus. There was a projected budget surplus, but it never came to be
Nah that would be Reagan. He let the first wave of illegals in and helped ship our jobs over seas
>>67595463
Fuck off. Carter was dealt a shit hand and is the only president to tell the kikes to fuck off. Zionists have convinced you that he was bad.
>>67595850
>>67595850
>>67595463
Obama is worse
>>67595463
George W. Bush was the worst President in American history.
The Jimmy Carter economy created 10x more jobs in just 4 years than the Bush economy.
Jimmy Carter didn't have anywhere near as bad an economic record as Republican morons falsely believe.
>listen to post-speeches tonight
>"muh Obama economy"
>no mention that the train fucking derailed under Bush
>>67595463
As (likely) one of the few oldfags here, yes. W was the worst.
>>67595463
He was pretty bad on the budget yes.
He was a great leader though in his integrity and his dismissal of public opinion. History will remember him as one of the greats
>>67595463
Yep. Thats why I voted Trump.
MAGA
>>67595858
For the last fucking time, this. Show me the god damned year under Clinton when the debt went down because of some 'surplus', or shut the fuck up about it.
He's the worst President of all time. He took America from its height to some of its darkest hours. We would be a fucking utopia if Gore had won. Imagine America with no Iraq war, clean energy, a noncorrupt government, protection of civil liberties, a solid economy with a balanced budget.
We should have went with Gore.
>>67595463
How many muslims did Carter kill?
>>67595463
>Is George W Bush literally the worst president since Jimmy Carter?
It's literally Barack Obama.
>Labor Force Participation rate is the lowest it's been since Jimmy Carter left office. Oh wait, this is a surprise to you because you're a cuck faggot who thinks the unemployment rate isn't a blatantly manipulated number? Hmm...
>>67595463
FUNNY BECAUSE OBAMA RACKED UP 16 TRILLION
>>67596164
>obama
>takes national economy in turmoil
>doesn't exacerbate things into depression
>all things turn around
>doesn't go full-communist like mouthbreathers predicted
>doesn't cut-and-run like mouthbreathers predicted
>doesnt take away 'yer guns' like mouthbreathers predicted.
>rights the course of the Titanic that the previous halfwit left him.
kill yourself, kike.
>>67595858
You're such a fucking moron. There were 3 budget surpluses.
The reasons why Republicans can't wrap their heads around this is because Republicans have no clue how to balance budgets, so when Democrats do it, you morons think it must have been black magic or sorcery of some kind.
The entire national debt was projected to be paid off within 10 years when Clinton left office.
That's how bad Bush was.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/380923.stm
Read some articles from 1999 and 2000 you fucking moron.
>>67596486
this 10x desu
>>67596164
When does Obamacare start being a job killer? You right wing morons have been wrong for 7 years straight now.
>>67595463
clinton's "surplus" didnt exist.
it was a "prediction" that in 10 years, if nothing at all changes, NOTHING!!, then there might be a surplus.
clinton shifted cold war defense spending to lefty populist faggotry spending, and continued running deficits.
clinton inherited reagan's peace dividend and blew it all on strippers, fat chicks and cocaine.
dubya inherited clinton's wrecked economic disaster area covered in dead hookers, broken crack pipes, vomit and the wreckage from when the niggers robbed the joint after everybody else passed out.
then the sand niggers came in and jacked the wreckage
dubya did a shitty job, lied when he should have told the truth, and tried to "aww shcucks" his way through foreign entanglements, but he wasnt nearly as disastrous as obongo
>>67596685
>doesn't cut and run
>lets ISIS take over Iraq and Syria, while Iran takes over Iraq
>>67596164
He accomplished next to nothing. "Bad" is probably the only way to describe him. calling him the absolute worst is delusional when Nixon almost fed us to the commies because he was so autistic and I mean literally autistic
>>67596863
>implying it's not because Clinton signed the Republican bills sent to him through a Republican majority Senate and House.
Unlike, Obongo, Clinton worked with the GOP Congress. But let's give Obongo another Nobel Peace Prize just because he's black.
>>67596668
Baby boomers are retiring you fucking moron.
You think 80 year olds should be counted as statistically unemployed? You need to be euthanized.
>>67596684
>Idiot who fails at math.
>>67597068
if there wasn't a surplus little bush wouldn't have declared war on Iraq.
>>67596863
>he thinks the Democrats were the reason why the taxes increased
Yeah, it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the Soviet Union collapsed allowing us to make massive cuts to our military, the Dot-Com bubble, all of the low-cost resources flooding the American market from formerly communist countries, and the baby boomers being of peak-spending age. Nothing to do with that.
Honestly, it didn't matter who which party was in power in the 90s, it would be insanely hard to fuck it up.
>>67597107
>when Nixon almost fed us to the commies
What? Nixon is goat
>>67597107
>when Nixon almost fed us to the commies because he was so autistic and I mean literally autistic
Talking about the worst president since Jimmy Carter, guy.
I would also agree though that Nixon was the worst president of all time. Initiated the colossal failure that is the "war on drugs", and made all the money you have worthless paper due to taking us off the gold standard.
1) war on drugs
2) took Us off gold standard
absolutely #1 worst
>>67597304
I am baffled by the collective thought that places the sole responsibility of the war and debt on one man. It is very deflective
>>67597092
It's Bush's invasion of Iraq that created ISIS you fucking nimrod.
>>67595858
Clinton created 23 million jobs and the country as a whole had no debt. First time in 150 years.
>>67596863
because presidents balance budgets...stupid fucking leaf.
>>67597667
ISIS started in Syria because the US wanted to overthrow Asad pham
>>67596863
> there was a surplus!!!
> debt still increased every year.
> U kant into econimics!!
fucking lefties.
"as a % of gdp" is NOT actual surplus. that only demonstrates that for a few months, the people bailed out the economy slightly faster than washington could drill holes in the boat
>>67596462
http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
1998-2001. Learn to Google, retard.
>>67597792
How many companies did this nigga start to create 23 million jobs?
>>67597824
Republicans don't. That we know. The last Republican to balance the budget was fucking Eisenhower.
By the way, are you such a retard that you don't know that Presidents submit budgets every year?
>>67597254
baby boomers are not 80 you fag.
>>67597830
Killing Saddam got rid of the only person who could keep the religious mad mudlsime dogs on their leash
>>67597957
he created an environment that allowed private sector jobs. I don't believe he started any actual companies.
>>67595979
>iranian hostage crisis
>sucked Soviet dick
>destroyed our military
>no one in NATO liked him
>energy crisis
He was the worst president we ever had
>>67596863
You mean because of the work of Ronald Reagan, right?
>>67597792
>clinton created
The internet created you mean you fucking retard
>>67597792
>what is the dot com boom
>implying Clinton had anything to do with this.
>>67595850
That's not LBJ
>>67595463
He's far worse than Jimmy Carter.
>>67597792
Clinton sold US manufacturing to the Chinese, set us up for the subprime mortgage crisis by loosening regulations, and fucked everyone with his welfare reform
>>67597254
retard alert
>>67598499
When you put emphisis on the L in his name when saying it aloud, he sounds like a mexican gay porn star.
>>67598260
How so? Genuinely asking. Though you highly overestimate his influence on this I agree for most parts. I watched the Bush/Gore debate and found it weird that Bush not once attacked Clinton/Dems economic policies
He was so bad that when it came time for him to go we elected a nig to take his place.
/thread
>>67598402
Well Al Gore created the internet, so by extension. . .
>>67597926
A budget surplus is revenues - expenditures YOU FUCKING MORON.
Why are right wingers such fucking retards?
Even Kasich and Gingrich talk about the fucking budget surpluses of 1998-2001.
CNN 2000
Record Budget Surplus Bringing Record Spending
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/28/wt.02.html
Clinton: Pay debt by 2015
http://money.cnn.com/1999/06/28/economy/clinton/
Here is the 2000 US federal budget from the fucking Office of Management and Budget.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BUDGET-2000-BUD/pdf/BUDGET-2000-BUD.pdf
YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKING NIMRODS.
Don't you remember the 2000 debates? It was all about the budget surplus you moron.
>>67596972
The jobs created are shitty minimum wage part time bullshit nobody actually wants and still need welfare to survive.
>>67596972
A FUCKING LEAF
>>67597957
The economy does a lot better under Democrats. Even Donald Trump admitted that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFrFid_6DY
>>67598841
>Don't you remember the 2000 debates? It was all about the budget surplus you moron.
Yep, and the stupid electorate decided to buy into the Bush campaign mockery over Gore saying that the social security trust fund should be a 'lockbox' that congress can't raid.
>>67598947
>67598947
95% full time. Try again retard. Your failed talking points betray you.
>>67597613
the gold standard was on its way out, if not nixon then someone else would have done it
>>67598961
A Republican could only wish to have such a jobs record.
>>67598985
>discussing parties instead of policies
How's it like to be 17?
>>67599136
b-b-b-uttt muh retiring baby boomers lowering labour force participation!11!!!111!!!
>>67598745
he taxed the rich and decreased gov't spending.
Sauce:http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/
>>67595463
We were in the dotcom bubble that burst.
Clinton had a free ride.
>>67599216
A. FUCKING. LEAF.
>>67596863
>The reasons why Republicans can't wrap their heads around this is because Republicans have no clue how to balance budgets, so when Democrats do it, you morons think it must have been black magic or
You're an imbecile. EIsenhower and Nixon both balances the budget
>>67599266
This doesn't create jobs.
>>67598152
This. The invasion of Iraq was one of the biggest mistakes the US ever made. A colossal fuck up.
>>67599088
Yep and Bush turned a $263 BILLION annual budget surplus into a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit by the time he was done.
5,000 dead American soldiers. Trillions squandered in pointless wars.
National debt doubled.
Leaves behind the worst economic crash since the Republican Great Depression.
1 million net jobs created over 8 years. The worst record since Republican Hoover.
Leaves behind a financial system on the brink of collapse.
America was hated all around the world.
Oh and Bush kept America safe on 9/11.
But yeah, Carter and Obama were totally worse...
>>67598281
>Energy crisis
>DA PRESIDENT GON LOWER GAS PRICES
>>67599327
Bush: 1 million private sector jobs created.
Obama: 14.2 million private sector jobs created
>Bush was better!
- TRUMPTARDS
>>67599455
And they were both the last 'good' Republican presidents. Both would be considered too liberal to win GOP nomination. Sometimes being a leader is about compromise, not faggotry like the current GOP
Cuckservatives
Not even once
>>67599285
How many of the 23 million private sector jobs the Clinton economy created were lost in your
>MUH DOT COM BUBBLE burst
???
>>67599645
A FUCKING LEAF
seriously how can you not hate Obama AND bush fucking faggots
![US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_Color_Coded_Congress_Control_and_Presidents_Highlighted[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/BNMPjFL.png "US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_Color_Coded_Congress_Control_and_Presidents_Highlighted[1].png")
>the president controls the budget
>>67599536
If Cheney says deficits don't matter (because China keeps buying your debt) then deficit don't matter.
>>67599455
Eisenhower did. Nixon didn't.
Every single Republican President since Eisenhower has increased the budget deficit over their term.
Every single Democratic President since Truman has REDUCED the budget deficit over their term.
Bush worked wonders turning a $263 BILLION budget surplus into a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit.
>>67599819
>2012
Do you think it's time to update your fucking talking points?
It's 2016 now. Jesus Christ.
Are you seriously so fucked out of your skull that you think it's 2012?
>>67599645
un putain de feuille
ITT Canadians talk about American Politics, like we care about their opinion.
>>67597934
http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/a/National-Debt-by-Year.htm
2002 - $6,198
2001 - $5,770
2000 - $5,629
1999 - $5,605
1998 - $5,478
1997 - $5,369
You see how the national debt went up every single year? That means that expenses were higher than revenues. That means there was never an actual surplus, only a projected one.
Now, under Clinton the budget came as close to balanced as it had in decades. However, as someone who was of voting age during the clinton administration, that is because the republicans took congress during the Gingrich Revolution and held Clinton's feet to the fire regarding spending. If you were alive back then, you'd remember the democrats bitching up a storm about it, and how evil the conservatives were for cutting welfare and other benefit programs.
Of course now they take full credit for it.
>>67599868
Most people don't realize the president is just a talking head and rep of the American "Brand" who takes the fall for congress and has a handful of nullification powers if shit gets too crazy. So many people focus on the presidential election when the real ones you need to focus on in regards to wanting to change shit are your State's Reps. and Senators and your state legislature elections.
>>67600062
>Obama wasn't president in 2012
Things have actually gotten worse you autistic leaf
>>67599904
>Every single Republican President since Eisenhower has increased the budget deficit over their term.
Nixon did improve the economy though. I've noticed that, in all of these threads, you only focus on budget and muh jerbs, but not the economy as a whole. LBJ and Kennedy were an economic shitshow, for example, but you don't say shit about them. In fact, LBJ's economics retardation is precisely why he couldn't do it.
>>67600062
but like half your talking points are from the Clinton era...
>>67599868
George Bush has a Republican House and Senate and turned a $263 BILLION budget surplus into 8 years of deficits and the worst economic crash since the Republican Great Depression.
Also, Reagan has the worst record on the national debt. He TRIPLED it.
Turns out tax cuts for the rich don't work.
Blame Cheney and pussy democratic congress for his approval rating. He was a good president and yall know it.
>ITT: People don't know the difference between the debt and the deficit.
For like 3 years, Clinton had a positive number for the deficit, but we certainly still had the debt.
>>67600185
The fact remains, Clinton was great on the economy. You can say "well the Republicans are who really wrote the bills" but the part is, as president, he's the one that has the final says and is the one that gets the credit. When a company is doing a good, the managers aren't praised, the owner is.
>>67600229
I agree we need to raise taxes on the rich. I take it you're supporting Bernie then?
>>67600313
Yes the Clinton era was from 1993 to 2001. Don't you think if we're talking about Obama, it should have more up to date data than 2012? Is it really that complicated to comprehend?
>>67595974
And Regan installed prohibition 2.0. Thanks you retarded demented freak. Burn in hell.
>>67600364
>public debt
>mattering
kek the leaf cucks are out in full force today
>>67600524
>taxing the rich to solve a problem created by mass immigration and outsourcing
Back to HongKouver.
>>67600388
They had Republican Congress up until January 2007. The damage was done by the Republicans.
>>67600364
Lol if you could read you wouldn't say something so patently false. The president does not control the budget.
>>67595463
obama has racked up more national debt and endangered all of the EU by having tunnel vision thinking they need to take down asaad
19tril in national debt he only started with about 7 tril
>>67600388
He was a mediocre President but yeah it was all Chaney
>>67600730
we've had republican congress sinc 2012, the recovery was done by republicans>>67600630
>>67595850
I honestly kek'd canadabro. But for real.
>DUDE WEED LMAO
>>67600630
lay off the weed dude, its fried your brain
>[muffled a fucking leaf in the distance]
>>67600364
Okay leaf.
First off, we were attacked on 9/11 which tanked the economy and drew us into the wasteful war on terror. That could have been avoided if clinton would have pulled his cigar out of fat jewish interns long enough to take out bin laden when he was handed to us on a fucking platter.
Secondly, the subprime mortgage crash was entirely due to democrat policies enacted during the clinton administration.
Bush was shit, but not for the reasons you are saying. And Obama is far worse.
>>67598041
You know that the budget was balanced by a Repub. congress, led by Newt Gingrich. Right?
Of course you don't. You are a fucking LEAF.
>>67595463
>inherited a housing market bubble big enough to create the worst economic crash since the great depression
ftfy
>>67595463
He's up there but Obama is worse. Contrary to common belief, one person can't do shit. They're administration does shit. And his administration did the bullshit stimulus thing plus the Iraq war and sucked Saudi circumcised pricks. Only now are the effects wearing off and the half nigger sociopath in the White House whose administration hasn't done shit (other than create ISIS) takes credit for it
>>67600961
>That could have been avoided if clinton would have pulled his cigar out of fat jewish interns long enough to take out bin lade
Way to pass the buck, dipshit. Bush was literally handed an intelligence report stating that OBL was going to attack and IGNORED IT. Clinton tried going after OBL and was relentlessly mocked by the GOP for 'shooting missiles at tents and camels'. Give me a fucking break.
>>67595463
War is expensive. Cold or otherwise. The cold war was the most expensive, because it had to be won by spending the enemy into bankruptcy.
>>67595463
How to fix economy 101
>get rid of Bush tax cuts for the rich
Trickle down doesn't work. It never does. It sounds good on paper, but greedy CEOs fuck shit up.
>Don't tax the rich too hard
They're going to either move or lay people off.
Keep a progressive tax rate that's been shown to work. Stop fucking with the status quo. If it ain't broken don't fix it.
>Cut down the spending
Military spending way too high. We don't have a serious threat. Let's stop acting like we do.
Get rid of benefits for anchor babies.
>Healthcare reform
Obamacare sucks. Replace medical.
>Stop supporting Israel
If they want to war with the arabs they need to do it without our gibmedat
>>67595658
first post best post
>>67595463
1. Carter
2. Obama
3. GWB
>>67596486
This, in my opinion to be honest, family.
>>67601174
This fampai.
>>67595463
Nope pic related was waaaay worst.
>>67601083
>Only now are the effects wearing off and the half nigger sociopath in the White House whose administration hasn't done shit (other than create ISIS) takes credit for it
Needs more nuance. Obama caused ISIS, but Bush started the war in Iraq, which laid the foundations for ISIS.
>>67599536
I think you mean the war Isreal suadi and the Cia dragged us into, so by extension you could say I'd there was no way for Isreal to buyout our government we wouldn't be having all these problems
>>67600504
Clinton lucked out by being president during a great time. The economic drivers at the time (peace & prosperity, the internet boom, the end of the cold war and reduction in military spending) had little to do with clinton.
But he did set us up for future disaster ( Community Reinvestment Act lead to housing bubble, and not taking bin laden seriously enough despite the first attack on the WTC and USS Cole bombing).
To be fair, there are things Clinton does deserve credit for. His crime bill, despite having retarded gun control in it which cost him the house, did get tough on crime with his 'three strikes' policy. This had the effect of putting countless blacks in jail (which the democrats, including bill & hillary) are now claiming was a bad and racist thing to do. However, the results speak for themselves. We went from record high crime rates in the late 80's to early 90's, to record low crime rates after.
So, basically the clintons have disowned the only good thing they did.
>>67600185
>That means that expenses were higher than revenues.
No you fucking moron. Revenues exceeded expenditures for 3 years from 1998 to 2001. This is a fact.
The reason why the public debt went up has to do with the relationship between the social security trust fund and government bonds.
Do you really think that you, a Trumptard, have the mental capacity to under such complex matters?
>"The discrepancy between the two concepts of federal debt in these years occurred because of program surpluses and the rapid growth of reserves held by the various trust fund accounts, such as Social Security," said Brookings Institution economist Gary Burtless. Social Security surpluses don't go into a "lock box" but are instead invested in government bonds; the proceeds of these purchases go into the general treasury, and when the bonds mature, the treasury is obligated to pay back the Social Security trust both principal and interest.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/23/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-says-his-administration-paid-down-deb/
Sometimes things are more complex than TEAFAGGOT talking points you fucking moron.
http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jun/08/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-touts-fiscal-record-president-during-/
Leafcuck BTFO again
>>67596486
>We would be a fucking utopia if Gore had won
How the fuck are people this stupid?
Clinton was able to have a surplus due to the Dot Com bubble
>>67600179
It's actually just one Canadian, and it looks like he is dominating this thread.
>>67601834
>luck
Bush had luck too. He fucked it up.
>>67601898
I know right. How the fuck are you so stupid?
>>67601845
>Do you really think that you, a Trumptard, have the mental capacity to under such complex matters?
Ironically, you yourself dodge every criticism of your slipshod economic thoughts. Sometimes things are more complex than BUDGET JERBS BUDGET JERBS HURR DURR
>>67601699
THIS. Every single time somebody pulls this "MUH WORST PRESIDENT EVER" shit with modern leaders I want to just scream Buchanan. Guy could've likely deescalated the lead-up to the civil war but instead he sat on his hands and did a fat load of nothing relevant. He also might've been our first buttpirate president.
>>67600961
Thanks for admitting Republicans are incapable to keeping America safe. This is exactly why we can't trust Republicans with national security.
Bush inherited the best American economy possibly in history. 3.9% unemployment, a $263 BILLION budget surplus, a thriving economy and still managed to completely fuck it all up.
Like you said, Republicans can't be trusted with the economy. No matter how good of an economy Democrats leave them, Republicans will fuck it all up and blame Democrats.
>>67601382
9/10 anon
>>67600993
There was no housing bubble in 2001. You're officially a moron.
Obama was the worse.
But he is a nigger, and niggers have low iqs.
>>67597092
>The Iraq war creates ISIS
>The Iraq war
>Iraq war
I pray that Pat Tillman is skullfucking your grandparents in heaven right now.
>>67602024
>make claims without evidence
>thinks he's not the stupid one
>>67595463
yes, cuckservative.
>>67602163
>the worse.
Thanks for contributing, moosenigger.
>>67601174
>Clinton tried going after OBL and was relentlessly mocked by the GOP for 'shooting missiles at tents and camels'. Give me a fucking break.
No, Clinton was mocked for shooting missles at tents & camels because that's what he did. Cruise missile abandoned and empty al-qaeda camps.
Meanwhile when sudan offered bin laden on a platter, clinton said 'no thanks'.
>>67601845
Well since i dont understand shit ur saying time to meme
DUDE LEAF LMAO
>>67600977
Newt Gingrich was far too busy investigating Bill Clinton's penis and trying to impeach him, to worry about balancing anything.
All the heavy lifting for balancing the budget was done with the 1993 Omnibus Budget. Clinton raised taxes on the rich and the corporations. Republicans predicted a recession. Instead the economy soared for the longest peacetime American economic expansion in history.
Republicans wrong as always.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
>>67595463
>he believes the Bill Clinton surplus meme
>>67601834
>Clinton Era
>Peace
The guy bombed the fuck out of Slobodan.
Republicucks were up in arms.
>>67598084
The civilian labor participation rate counts ALL Americans 16 years old and up. Up to death. Therefore you morons actually think that 80 years should be counted as unemployed. That's how fucking stupid you are.
>>67602315
>Meanwhile when sudan offered bin laden on a platter, clinton said 'no thanks'.
Didn't happen
>No, Clinton was mocked for shooting missles at tents & camels because that's what he did. Cruise missile abandoned and empty al-qaeda camps.
Those missiles missed OBL by 30 minutes. They had barely abandoned the camp.
>>67601965
>Bush had luck too. He fucked it up.
What luck?
Having 9/11 come to fruition under your watch, or the housing bubble implode under your watch?
The only luck bush had was in shoe dodging.
>>67602487
>portugal
>Knowing anything about balanced budgets.
Pay your debt, poorfag.
>>67602087
Go to bed Trudeau, you're high.
>>67598041
>Presidents don't balance
>attacks Republican presidents for not balancing the budget
>>67602315
You make a very strong argument for making sure there's never a Republican President ever again. You're admitting that unless a Democratic President kills every last terrorist on the planet, a terrorist attack will be inevitable under a Republican President.
Republicans can't be trusted with national security.
>>67602611
>implying i have anything to do with portuguese politics
>implying i was born here
i'm a MAGAman, you faggot
budget was awesome here when an economist took over. problem is, he became a dictator
also
>amerifat telling me about debt
>>67602548
He was lucky the Supreme Court handed him the election. That is it really. Why I'm glad that fat fuck Scalia died.
>>67602819
>>67602335
>>67602087
>>67602087
>No matter how good of an economy Democrats leave them, Republicans will fuck it all up and blame Democrats.
kek, you're delusional, the first post war recession came from Kennedy
In terms of economics, since 1950
1.Eisenhower
2.Clinton
3.Nixon
4.Reagan
5.Kennedy
6.Bush sr
7..Bush jr
8.LBJ
9,Carter
>>67602548
Both of those things were his fault for not stopping.
What kind of intelligence agency let's 9/11 happen? How the fuck does your administration let the housing bubble happen?
>inb4 but clinton led up to it
Yeah, and if Clinton was a president when the housing bubble was actually happening he would've made sure it didn't lead to a recession.
Bush's luck
>Daddy's council
>Inheriting surplus
>Dot com still developing
What does he do with it? Use 9/11, something he probably let happen, as an excuse to invade IRAQ. There wasn't shit in Iraq. Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan but that place has no resources while Iraq had oil.
He started an unnecessary war and lied about WMDs. And let's not even mention how he handled Katrina.
He handled every bad situation that happened in his presidency terribly.
>>67595463
Rank thread?
Since FDR:
1. Ford
2. Truman
3. Kennedy
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Eisenhower
7. Obama
8. Bush Sr.
9. Clinton
10. Nixon
11. Bush Jr.
12. Carter
13. Johnson
>>67603177
>What kind of intelligence agency let's 9/11 happen?
The intelligence community knew about it. Bush just didn't give a shit.
>>67603141
>, the first post war recession came from Kennedy
WTF?
I guess you're forgetting the 3 fucking recessions under Eisenhower?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1958
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1960%E2%80%9361
I swear to god, right wingers are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.
>>67603177
Good anaylysis, and good dubs.
>>67602542
>Didn't happen
Yes, it did.
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/dec/05/opinion/oe-ijaz05
>>67603280
>Obama worse than Bush Jr.
Americans actually believe this
>>67603460
1 being the best and 13 being the worst you retard German
>>67603091
Every single post election recount confirmed that bush won florida and the election.
Now is when you cry about the electoral college and gore winning more votes, faggot.
>Bush
How bad a national villain do you have to be in order to be literally told by your brother's campaign managers to "stay the fuck away"
This cuck literally couldn't leave his ranch to promote his younger brother running for presidency.
This should tell you that not only is the considered the worst president ever, but the worldwide disdain for this guy is still at toxic high levels.
>>67603460
Only the retarded ones.
I guess all Obama has to do is crash the global economy, cause the worst recession since the Republican Great Depression, put the financial system on the brink of collapse, fail to protect America from the worst attack in its history, lie to the country about WMD and send 5,000 American soldiers to their deaths.
All that and Obama will be as good as Bush in /pol's eyes.
>>67603387
He wasn't in Sudan at that time period.
>links to an opinion column as a source lel
>>67603346
I meant postwar deficit, kek you really jumped on that you desperate little cancuck
Anything to say about the rest of my post, or are you too pussy to touch it?
>>67603460
Mohammad in Germany detected. No anglo is this dumb
>>67595463
Bush didn't do a single thing right.
>>67603697
Rethuglicans think Obama has a time machine and enacted policies before his inauguration.
>>67603177
this x1000
The man bled red white and blue. Unlike so many others, the was never a doubt that this man loved America with every bone in his body. He was proud of his country and did everything he could to protect it. None of these candidates could hold his dick.
>>67603697
>In 2003, the Bush Administration attempted to create an agency to oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The bill never made progress in Congress, facing sharp opposition by Democrats
hmmmm
>>67603998
Your patriotism doesn't matter for shit if you fumble nearly every major situation given to you.
>Hurricane Katrina
I dare say that is Bush would've handled this natural disaster better, national guilt would not have led to an Obama presidency and mainstream cuckery that we see today.
Thanks W.
>>67595463
He is not the worst president because calling him "president" is overly generous. Both because he was the puppet of Cheney and Rove, and because the didn't earn the job, he got it on a technicality. The electoral college is so old and nonsensical that it's right up there with laws that say horses can't wear hats on Sunday.
>>67603854
Oooh, RETHUGLICANS! ABSOLUTE MADMAN, how will we ever recover?!?
Thank your faggy nigger prez for completely fucking healthcare and adding another 10 trillion to the debt, but I guess that'd take pulling your head out from your ass to face reality, which would kill your weak little heart.
>>67604071
>The bill never made progress in Congress, facing sharp opposition by Democrats
Republicans had majorities in the house until 2007. Sooo. . .I got some bad news for you, you're full of shit.
>>67603177
>What kind of intelligence agency let's 9/11 happen?
The same one that let benghazi happen.
>How the fuck does your administration let the housing bubble happen?
Bush & McCain pushed congress to prevent it, and was ignored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM
>Yeah, and if Clinton was a president when the housing bubble was actually happening he would've made sure it didn't lead to a recession.
Clinton was president during the dot-com bubble, and let it lead to a recession.
>He started an unnecessary war and lied about WMDs.
Yes, and for that he is shit.
>And let's not even mention how he handled Katrina.
Katrina was mishandled by democrat governors who were too proud and partisan to declare a state of emergency and request the national guard be deployed.
Like I said, there is plenty to rightfully blame bush for. You should stick to that.
>>67604071
Lol in 2003, Republicans had the House, Senate and Presidency.
You do know Republicans are AGAINST regulation right? Republicans love DEREGULATION.
>>67604323
>hur dur imma say nigger and faggy to make my non-intelligent opinion sound even more 'tarded
>>67604337
>Republicans had majorities in the house until 2007. Sooo. . .I got some bad news for you, you're full of shit.
Why do I give a shit about "Republicans" in general? I was just talking about Bush. You can usually tell an imbecile by the way he does his thinking- studies show that those with low iqs tend to think in terms of party
>>67604163
I'm not saying he was perfect or even near it, but he was what America needs. Fun fact: the actual president has little power. He simply acts as a symbolic figure head to the public. And GW did that better than anyone.
>>67604482
>benghazi is in NYC
>youtube'd fox news citation
>clinton is responsible for the housing bubble popping
>katrina is the democrats fault
Okay Trump.
>>67597655
>tfw people forget that Congress and the Supreme Court run the government alongside the president
W. Bush was still pretty bad though
>>67604688
Because you keep spouting bullshit falsehoods. If Republicans had majority then how could Democrats obstruct the passage of a bill to prevent the housing bubble? Because that never happened dipshit.
>>67604633
>You do know Republicans are AGAINST regulation right? Republicans love DEREGULATION.
Some of them are, others aren't. For example, a certain William Jefferson Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall act.
I hope you actually reply this time and don't cower away, my mentally incompetent little buddy
>>67600388
Buddy...
How quickly we forget Katrina. How quickly we forget the war in Irag was indeed his idea. He wanted a holy crusade to purge the Muslims from the holy land.
How quickly we forget the tax cuts and the deregulation of Wall Street, directly leading to the situation that brought about the 2008 crisis. How quickly we forget about all his many, many gaffs, and how completely stupid he was.
How quickly we forget that he was once a coke addict. How quickly we forget that he nearly failed college. How quickly we forget that the only reason he was able to run was because he relied on Daddy's money and influence.
How quickly we forget just how complete shit he was. There is bipartisan agreement on this. Anyone who says Obama is worse than Bush is lying to themselves.
>>67604482
>The same one that let benghazi happen.
Compares Benghazi to 9/11.
Literally a moron.
>Katrina was mishandled by democrat governors who were too proud and partisan to declare a state of emergency and request the national guard be deployed.
Republicans, the party of personal responsibility, always manage to blame Democrats for their fuckups.
Maybe if Bush hadn't appointed one of cronies as head of FEMA, they could responded better.
What a coincidence the worst response to a natural disaster, the worst attack in American history, and the worst economic crash since the Republican Great Depression ALL occured under Bush.
>Blames Democrats.
Fucking retard.
>>67604701
And he has control over foreign policy/the military.
Which he messed up completely.
>>67604951
>Some of them are, others aren't. For example, a certain William Jefferson Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall act.
Remind me, what was the name of the bill that repealed Glass-Steagall?
>>67604956
>Anyone who says Obama is worse than Bush is lying to themselves.
Or are genuine racists who actually believe being black means you're a muslim traitor.
Republicans thought W was such shit that they megacrapped on his brother's bid and it didn't even make it to the primaries.
If the people that elected you think you're garbage, you're garbage.
>>67603998
Don't forget Bush kept America safe on 9/11.
>>67603702
>He wasn't in Sudan at that time period.
Yes he was, you fucking retard. This is undisputed fact.
Bin Laden was in sudan. The sudanese offered to arrest him and turn him over in exchange for better relations with the US. Clinton said no, so Bin Laden was kicked out of sudan and went to Afghanistan.
If you don't like the source, google others yourself. This timeline of events is in the public record.
>>67604940
>Because you keep spouting bullshit falsehoods. If Republicans had majority then how could Democrats obstruct the passage of a bill to prevent the housing bubble?
It was a quote from the New York Times, you fucking clown. I don't know, perhaps if more Democrats had supported it, they, along with some of the Republicans on Bush's side, could have passed it. Why don't you think instead of screaming?
>Because that never happened dipshit.
>dipshit
kek, confirmed low iq. Nice insult, Cletus
>>67605222
Jeb was and always has been a total beta. I'm not surprised about the outcome of his campaign at all. He literally ran to mommy to endorsements lol
>>67605288
>You dipshit. I made the claim, but I don't have to provide the evidence because reasons!
But nice dubs.
>>67598281
>>iranian hostage crisis
Eisenhower's fault
>>sucked Soviet dick
Boycotted the Soviet Olympics
>>destroyed our military
Served on a nuclear submarine, pissed radiation for six months after volunteering to clean up Canada's nuclear mess
>>no one in NATO liked him
Who care what parasites leaching off of us think? France and half of Europe was almost communist at that time.
>>energy crisis
Jew tricks in alliance with their Saudi Sunni friends.
You're going to have to do better than that kike.
>>67605124
> Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLBA)
Which was a bipartisan passage. Was that supposed to destroy my point? kek
>>67604956
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
>how quickly we forget
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>how quickly we forget
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>>67603709
Retard clearly says
>the first post war recession came from Kennedy
When I prove you wrong, you go
>I meant postwar deficit
What a moron. Meanwhile Eisenhower ran a whole bunch of budget deficits. So you're wrong again. Going to try to say you meant something else?
>>67605288
>still no reputable sources
kek
>>67605481
What is that bust in the background?
>>67605295
>dems resist bill in rep majority
>reps vote against the bill
FUCKING DEMS IF THEY DIDNT RESIST THEN THE REPS WOULDNT HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT FUCKING LIBERALS THANKS OBAMA
>>67605494
Why was it named Gramm-Leach-Bliley?
>>67595463
>Dubya was shit
>Obama was 2 more terms of Dubya
It has been a shitty 16 years
>>67605597
Looks like Teal'c from Stargate lol
>>67605700
Not that I have a problem with it, but why do you care so much about American politics? You have 34 posts in this thread.
Nice dubs, btw.
>>67596411
>History will remember him as one of the greats
History doesn't work that way anymore. History will remember all his mindless blabbering and gaffes. History now comes with YouTube, not just pictures. We project larger than life qualities on dead people whom we only have pictures of. When Bush dies, a confused, goofy Texas accent will live on.
>>67605022
>Maybe if Bush hadn't appointed one of cronies as head of FEMA, they could responded better.
No. It was simply illegal for the feds to jump in with FEMA until the state government declares a state of emergency and asks for it, and the democrats who were in power took too long to because of partisanship.
>What a coincidence the worst response to a natural disaster, the worst attack in American history, and the worst economic crash since the Republican Great Depression ALL occured under Bush.
Are you literally blaming Bush for the weather?
Holy fucking shit you liberals are delusional.
>>67598281
>no one in NATO liked him
Since when does /pol/ like NATO?
>>67605541
I guess you're right about this, can't be assed to look it up. Do you want to address the rest of that post, or will you keep running away behind my obvious mistake?
>Eisenhower deficits as percentage of GDP .4%
kek, but yes I suppose it did exist
>>67605295
>keeps trying to source claim from NYT OpEd piece
>Says I have low iq
lol keep projecting
>>67605524
anything to actually say, or are we just meming? We can just meme, if you want. Sound pretty fun, desu nee, onii-chan.
>>67605856
Answer the question.
Why was it named Gramm-Leach-Bliley?
Don't make this personal just because you're losing.
>>67605883
I'm blaming Bush for the response to weather. It's not the first time America was hit by a hurricane.
Turns out when you put people into government, who hate government, things don't go so smoothly.
>>67605632
>FUCKING DEMS IF THEY DIDNT RESIST THEN THE REPS WOULDNT HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT FUCKING LIBERALS THANKS OBAMA
I'm a democrat myself, why are you so desperate Cletus? This may well have been the case. If it's so, the blame rests with both of them.
>>67605700
Why was it named after the Chairman of banking affairs, etc, in a Republican majority congress? If that's not obvious, there's no helping you.
Why did so many democrats support it?
>>67606076
I'm not the guy you were talking to.
>>67606000
>projekshun
babby's first double digit iq defense mechanism
waste of trips tbqh
>>67606000
Checked
>>67606017
He is probably 'murican like me but using a proxy. Who cares.
>>67605441
>>67605582
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/binladen/timeline.html
Fucking spoonfed liberals. Is this reputable enough for you?
>1991 - Bin Laden is expelled from Saudi Arabia due to his anti-government activities. He takes refuge in Sudan. Eventually, Saudi Arabia revokes his citizenship, and his family disowns him as well.
>1996 - Under pressure from the United States and Saudi Arabia, the Sudanese expel bin Laden from the country. Bin Laden moves with his 10 children and three wives (he is rumored to have since added a fourth) to Afghanistan.
>>67605922
Deficits as % of GDP fell drastically until Reagan came in, cut taxes for the rich and tripled the national debt.
Btw, I'm not criticizing Eisenhower, I think he was the last half decent Republican President. You don't exactly hear Republicans bragging much about Eisenhower though do you? Bernie talked about him more than anyone.
>>67606190
It was a rhetorical question. It was named Gramm-Leach-Bliley because it was named after the 3 Republicans who wrote the bill. As usual, the worst attack against a Democrat is that he agreed with Republicans.
>>67606384
>CNN
No. No, it's not.
>>67606384
I never said he wasn't in Sudan at any time. I am refuting that Sudan ever tried to hand him over or even make a formal offer.
>Protip: They never did
>>67606504
>Deficits as % of GDP fell drastically until Reagan came in, c
Such a sloppy, general statement. As I said ,the economy is more than durr muh duget and jerbs
>Btw, I'm not criticizing Eisenhower
Well I'm glad you've changed your mind. In one thread, you were even dumb enough to argue that he wasn't actually a good president.
>>67602487
facts are memes now I guess
>>67606201
Sorry.
To answer your question, I don't know why, but I just love debunking right wing morons on the internet. I know it's sad and pathetic. But I'm really good at it. To be fair though, it's way too easy.
>>67595463
You also forgot...
>doing 911
And yes, he is the worst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6VLFdWJ4I
>>67596411
No, history may have a way of redefining and simplifying narratives but George W. Bush is simple and retarded enough as is
Nothing he did was remotely great. Even the most staunch of conservatives would recognize that. I mean agree/disagree with his policy or not he's garbage
>>67596486
Yeah, you're right.
>>67606671
>It was a rhetorical question
No shit, but the rhetoric behind it is worthless. Of course the majority in the houses will be the sponsors- but your argument is worthless when democrats supported it.
Anyway, you calim it's a Republican mistake (it isn't, but I'll humor you senpai)
Here's what Bill Clinton had to say about this awful bit of Republican villainy:
>Not on this bill I don't think he did. You know, Phil Gramm and I disagreed on a lot of things, but he can't possibly be wrong about everything. On the Glass-Steagall thing, like I said, if you could demonstrate to me that it was a mistake, I'd be glad to look at the evidence. But I can't blame [the Republicans]. This wasn't something they forced me into.
Clinton goes on to defend the bill
>>67606766
Oh you again?
Buddy all I did was post this chart and you got all butthurt about Eisenhower.
Eisenhower was a great military leader. He did not have a very good economic record. That's just a fact. Sorry it makes you cry like a bitch.
Literally 3 recessions during his presidency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1958
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1960%E2%80%9361
>>67606920
>I know it's sad and pathetic.
It's even more sad that you ignore every post you're too stupid to respond to
It is always so weird for me to see people dick sucking one president or another considering how detrimental all of them in living memory have been to the average person.
Even weirder when it is a foreigner. When Obama got elected, I was living in Ireland and those people went fucking nuts.
Still, it's even weirder when it is a fucking leaf gagging on an American president's dick.
>>67607352
I just got criticized for having 40 posts in this thread. Now you're bitching that I missed 1 or 2?
Gimme a break. Pic related.
>>67596411
History will remember him as someone who made the worst foreign policy blunder in American history and crashed the economy.
>>67607324
>Buddy all I did was post this chart and you got all butthurt about Eisenhower.
You implied in a previous thread that a top ten president was mediocre, pretty stupid. I'm sorry your imbecilities make you cry like a bitch.
>He did not have a very good economic record. That's just a fact. Sorry it makes you cry like a bitch.
>He did not have a very good economic record. That's just a fact. Sorry it makes you cry like a bitch.
- Yale Historian John Lewis Gaddis
A few minor recessions don't make your opinion valid, sorry buddy
>>67606882
>literally assigning pension & benefits money as income
>not a meme
BRAVO
>>67607824
Don't worry about him. He is just 'intellectually compromised'
>>67606703
>I am refuting that Sudan ever tried to hand him over or even make a formal offer.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch4.pdf
>In late 1995, when Bin Ladin was still in Sudan, the State Department and the CIA learned that Sudanese officials were discussing with the Saudi government the possibility of expelling Bin Ladin.U.S.Ambassador Timothy Carney
encouraged the Sudanese to pursue this course.The Saudis, however, did not want Bin Ladin, giving as their reason their revocation of his citizenship.6 Sudan’s minister of defense, Fatih Erwa, has claimed that Sudan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the United States.The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so.Ambassador Carney had instructions only to push the Sudanese to expel Bin Ladin.Ambassador Carney had no legal basis to ask for more from the Sudanese since, at the time, there was no indictment outstanding.7
So, either you believe Sudan's minister of defense, who has no reason to lie, or you believe the state department & CIA who have every reason to cover their ass for the major fuckup of letting bin laden slip away.
>>67607993
fucked up the gaddis quote:
>He maintained prosperity, balanced the budget, promoted technological innovation,
You should write to this Yale scholar and tell him why he's wrong
>>67598376
You know the national debt quadrupled during the 12 years of Reagan/Bush right?
>>67607828
I think you're right, but that's because humanity likes simplifying history. He had a minimal impact on the economic crash when compared to interest rates that the Fed set.
Still, I imagine in a hundred years he'll be reclaimed and some small groups of people will love him while general pop hates him, while we will be old as shit and struggling through the fake teeth and Alzheimer's to say 'it's a bit more complicated than that'
>>67607324
You know it takes 3-6 years for a policies to come into effect, right?
Of course you don't, you're Canadian.
>>67608101
You need to re-read this:
>Fatih Erwa, has claimed that Sudan offered to hand Bin Ladin over to the United States.The Commission has found no credible evidence that this was so.
The very commission report you cite just backed exactly what I said.
>>67598281
> energy crisis
The Energy Crisis started in 1973--3 years before Carter was elected.
Try to keep up.
>>67598759
You got a point there...
>>67595463
>presidents have any affect on the economy
Not defending him but I'm tired of this meme.
You, Wall Street, the Fed and Congress all have way more power when it comes to an economy than a president does. Stop pretending otherwise. There are plenty of reasons to shit on Bush that aren't tied to the economy.
>>67608551
He means the '79 energy crisis
>>67595463
Carter was far better
>>67608423
>You know it takes 3-6 years for a policies to come into effect,
Please cite this.
It depends on the policy moron.
When you launch foreign wars costing trillions of dollars, piling up deficits and send 5,000 American soldiers to their deaths in Iraq, that has a pretty immediate impact.
When you raise taxes on the rich and cut taxes for the middle class, they feel it as soon as those changes kick in.
When you invest in a massive stimulus project, it puts people back to work right away.
Seriously what kind of moron are you?
Also, Obamacare passed in 2010. Republicans declared it would be a job killer. America's had 72 straight months of job creation since it passed. The longest streak on record.
When does Obamacare start being a job killer? Your 3-6 year made up magic window is up.
>>67602048
He was definitely the first cocksucker president (well, maybe not the first, but the first that's known about, with his "pal" who as a pair were called "Miss Nancy" and "Aunt Fancy"), but most historians say Harding was actually the very worst.
