Redpill me on the war of northern aggression and the Confederate states in general.
Also why do you hate this flag so much?
Yankee cunts.
The South Will Rise Again!
>>67491948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCu_wd_bulw
>>67491948
It's a really interesting war to study military wise. Some of the greatest generals to have ever lived fought in that war.
>>67491948
the real redpill comes when you find out how much the jews wrote themselves out of history on that one. It was mostly about the states wanting to be in control of themselves and not be bullied by the federal government but you don't hear about that part too much these days.
>>67491948
>north wanted south to git rid of slavery
>South was economically dependent on slaves
>washington didnt care and started poising itself for legislation
>south "fuk u niggz i'm leaving"
>north "plz no"
insert civil war
The only people who hate the confederate flag are people in the north
the war between the states, like all other wars, was ultimately caused by economic interests.
(in the sense that "economics" is the study of the distribution of scarce resources. all wars are essentially due to scarcity, in some way or another)
Let's start from the beginning. The issue of the tariffs.
Like all forms of government intervention into the free market, there are winners and there are losers. Tariffs tend to protect domestic industry from competition from international rivals, while they hurt those who would benefit from that competition (the end consumers of imported goods)
The Tariff issue was basically the defining political issue between the states, since the Tariff needs to be enforced by the Federal Government, and voted on by the states. Big Government interests naturally wanted higher tariffs, since back in the day before the income tax, the lion's share of government revenues came from Tariffs (the other portion was Land sales). Higher tariff means higher government budget.
Thus the Big Government types had found a lasting ally, the northern industrialists, who didn't want to have to compete with superior British finished goods.
>continued
Wikipedia actually gives a pretty balanced discussion on the history of the tariff issue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariffs_in_United_States_history
One noteworthy tariff was known as the "Tariff of Abominations", passed in 1829. It was the largest Tariff in US history, and was mainly designed to protect "infant industries" from competition with British counterparts, to effectively subsidize US industry. However, the southern states, who did not benefit from this policy, were very against it. The conflict was so deep, that the 1929 tariff spawned the Nullification crisis, which was the political theory that essentially undermined the Union of the states, and which was the same doctrine that the southern states invoked when they seceded.
tldr; economic interests drive the nullification crisis, which drives the civil war.
Reductionist historians will boil the cause of the civil war down to 1 issue, slavery. "The South had it, the North didn't, and the Northerners were good christians and sacrificed hugely to do the right thing."
Not only is this reductionist, it's very misleading. Of course in some sense, it has some truth to it. The south's economy was built around slavery, or "human capital" instead of industrial machines "physical capital", and that's why they werent benefitting from the tariffs, and is why they were thus against the north on this issue. So in some sense, the argument that slavery was the root cause has some validity, but it is very misleading to not tell the whole story.
In this way, the cause of the civil war is economic, not moral. Dont believe those cuck historians.
>>67492167
Who else other than Lee and stonewall Jackson?
>>67491948
I don't hate the flag, but most of the people who want to display constantly because "muh heritage" have no knowledge of the Civil War.
The entire reason for the war was to establish the supremacy of the US federal government over the state governments. The issue that brought this almost century long struggle to war was indeed slavery, but it was not the sole point of contention and was not the primary motivation for the vast majority of parties involved.
The Confederacy itself was plagued throughout with wealthy, naive voices thinking their moral entitlement to sovereignty as states would somehow win them a war. Fortunately for them (or unfortunately depending on which historian you read), they had most of the best US generals and military leaders on their side which made for a long, brutal, but ultimately doomed war.
People hate the flag on the ground level because it's been associated with racism and white supremacy. On a more removed level it's seen as an assertion of states rights and an ideological insurgency against federal power.
Your redpill is that the conflict over slavery was, at the time and has been since, used as a moral argument by the federal government to assert supremacy over the states. It's important to note that this same moral argument was used to support the Civil Rights Act that was as big of a blow to individual liberty as the Civil War was to states rights.
>>67492167
As well as some of the worst generals. Pic related
>>67494427
>because "muh heritage" have no knowledge of the Civil War.
why?
liberals don't hate the flag, they hate southerners and southern whites in general and know if they get the flag banned it's like they're sticking it to them (kind of like what liberals do in general, revenge politics)
>>67494233
As of now I've discussed the CAUSE of the civil war, but the EFFECTS are much more elucidating.
Basically big government became a force to be reckoned with after the war. It's when the US went from being a loose confederation of largely autonomous libertarian fiefs to a unified empire. The civil war is like Cesaer's crossing of the Rubicon. The US was never the same, and since the war, the Executive branch of government has become more and more powerful at the expense of the legislative and judicial branches.
At the same time, this was when the US government consolidated its grip on the US economy. Many banking acts were passed into law (while southern lawmakers were absent) that put a tax on all State issued currencies. That's right, State's used to have the authority to issue currency, and they still do, but since the banking acts of 1867, State bank notes held a 2-3% tax on them, which in the long run effectively drove them out of business, since they couldnt compete with the new currency, the greenback. In addition, the Fed passed a law forcing state banks to "back up" their deposits with US Treasury debt, which was a way of ensuring that the US had ready buyers for their debt taken out during the war, allowing the US Big Gov to grow even more.
>>67494426
Grant and Sherman are 2 that come to mind.
Grants legacy is tarnished because he was a terrible president, but he definitely turned the tide of the war.
>>67492020
>flag
>>67494720
I find it funny when liberals complain about the flag but still vote Democrat
If the Confederate flag = the Nazi flag then what does that make the Democratic Party
>>67494426
Also N.B. Forrest, severely underutilized.
>>67494860
Neither were great tacticians
Grant just didn't mind taking causties and Sherman just took the war to the civilians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiQzhPDhiWU&ab_channel=pippoblackboxen
The south will rise again.
>>67491948
southern states was traitors to the USA
