And why do people fear the right-wing, conservatism, and fascists MORE than the left wing, when there is such a high body count on the Left?
Nobody?
but what about the hundreds of millions that have died to establish and continue the growth of capitalist america or the thousands that die every month as a direct result of it? those numbers suddenly seem pretty small in comparison
>>67480242
It's the change that kills
>>67482246
You're literally making things up.
It's a system based on stealing everyone's property
You think a system like that can avoid mass death?
>>67480242
>why do people fear the right-wing, conservatism, and fascists MORE than the left wing
Because the merchants won't allow you to have a normal country.
>>67484650
lol
1st the first stage of grief denile
Imagine an alternate universe where communism was the normal. Then someone decided to enforce capitalism on them by force. Would that change happen without dead bodies? I think whenever you try to force a society to something which it isn't naturally you are going to end up with pile of dead bodies.
>>67484650
have you ever opened a history book or looked at the society we live in?
>>67485138
Capitalism as in secular fairly democratic societies with a market economy?
Imagine the horror
>>67480242
Because when the ideology was drafted up, eugenics was the cool new thing.
Marx and Engels call for "humanely euthanizing" the societies/groups that have not reached industrialism by the time of the world revolution.
That and for delivering on the promise of annihalating the classes there is really only one method.
>>67482246
Alot of the advancements in human history have been build upon the sacrifice of the many. Technology, Constitutions, Freedom of speech. However the difference is capitalism, while having flaws tries to at least afford some a better life and advance our society.
Capitalism has given us a world where we walk around with computers in our pockets that are more powerful than something the size of a city block a few decades ago, its raised many people above the line of poverty and it allows society to move into a more comfortable time.
Communism basically allows a small group of ultra rich to live like modern day kings, while the rest of the population are treated like cattle and dirt and live like prisoners in a society which is based around controlling their lives. it also fails because people have no incentive to really put effort in since they won't be able to move up in the social hierarchy.
fascism can exists on both sides.
The correct spectrum is Communism on the extreme left and Anarchism on the far right.
Before anarchism you have Libertarianism variants.
Hitler's NatSoc was on the left side in that it had Gov control of pretty much everything.
Why is Hitler seen as right but social conservative Stalin as left?
>>67485396
I'm not saying communism is good or that capitalism is bad. Just that trying to force a society to change by force is going to produce death. Look at Iraq, the coalition tried to enforce democracy and rule of law by force. How did it turn out? It does not mean that democracy or rule of law don't work.
>>67485670
because of idiotic jew media propaganda
ommunism was originally called "Jewish Bolshevism."
“The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a NEW ORDER IN THE WORLD. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, became a reality all over the world.” ~ The American Hebrew Sept. 10, 1920.
https://ia801703.us.archive.org/13/items/RussiaNo.11919--ACollectionOfReportsOnBolshevismInRussia1.ed./Russia_No.1_1919--A_Report_On_Bolshevism_In_Russia.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP18DvPFn9w
We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish (Israeli Ynet News)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Vladimir Putin said: "80 to 85% Jews in 1st Soviet Government." (When they set up the first commie government, out of the 545 commissars, 477 were Jews and most of the others were married to Jews.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
“Some call it Communism, I call it JUDAISM.” ~ Rabbi S. Wise, The American Bulletin, May 5, 1935. (Judaism is nothing but disguised, camouflaged Communism.)
The Gulag Archipelago II was written by Nobel Prize Winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Pictured on page 79 of the Gulag Archipelago II are the leading administrators of the GREATEST KILLING MACHINE in the history of the world, the "Gulags", where over 65 million eastern european christians were exterminated. They are Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda, and Naftaly Frenkel. ALL SIX ARE JEWS.
LIST OF COMMUNIST JEWS.
https://communismblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/list-of-communist-jews/
THE SECRET HOLOCAUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCan8CDuDMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVDFf3CNF8
>>67480242
to completely eliminate opposite parties.
>>67484659
>It's a system based on stealing everyone's property
> You think a system like that can avoid mass death?
/thread
>>67485670
You can believe in this so-called Holocaust of the Jews if you want to but let me tell you about the REAL Holocaust. In 1917 when the Communist/Bolshevik Jews took over the tsar russian government in the most brutal and barbaric way. In this total bloodbath the Jewish ran Cheka and NKVD starved and murdered over 65 million Christian Russians, Ukrainians, people of the Baltic States and other people of eastern Europe from 1917 to 1962... but only after most of the people were disarmed. It led to rivers of blood, terror, misery, torture, poverty, slavery and death, all on a colossal scale. The Jewish Bolsheviks murdered 30 million within the first 4 years of their takeover, long before Stalin came to power.
This part of history has been heavily hidden from textbooks, museums etc. The Jews work especially hard to skim past the shady bits of their history, placing all of the attention on their so-called Jewish Holocaust where 6 million Jews (The real total death toll during WW2 was 271,301 dead Jews documented in official Red Cross documents arcives and there was also NO evidence of systematic genocide of the Jews reported.) were killed. Yet we are treated to numerous movies, miniseries, documentaries, etc. each year about the “Holocaust”. You’ll never hear them mention the Jew run Holdormor famine genocide in Ukraine or the Jew run Soviet Gulags in Russia and any other crimes committed by the “chosen people” because they control the means of communication. Communism is Jewish Talmudic tyranny made manifest.
>>67480242
Communism always leads to violence from the government because in communism there is no place for opposition since it is entirley undemocratic.
And the rulers have no plan on how to deal with opposition other than imprisonment and death
All you need is one single person who says NO!
No to the communists seizing his private property. So, what yre you going to do as a commie leader when a guy says No, i'm not part of your ideology? Yeah, you take out your AK and shoot the fucker...
This is something many college kids have problems understanding
Note how, despite all those deaths, the system still DIDN'T work.
So your premise is wrong.
Because as a system it demands you relinquish everything that makes you an individual, then must judge how much of a potential threat you are and eliminate you if necessary.
Of course this means you have to have actual people calling the shots as the "system" isn't maintaining itself. That level of power creates a ridiculous amount of paranoia and contempt for the lives of others.
>>67486486
is that fucking monroe?
>>67486678
>All you need is one single person who says NO!No to the communists seizing his private property. So, what yre you going to do as a commie leader when a guy says No, i'm not part of your ideology? Yeah, you take out your AK and shoot the fucker...
But it's for the good of everybody!
Just like we burn witches and pagans.
Like we torture people to accept God because if they don't they will burn in hell and endure torture forever and ever.
If you truly blieved that you would do anything to convert them, to "save" them.
You see, it's a lack of logic and reason.
That's why the left bothers me, total rejection of logic, reson and facts. Of course it can go too far in the other direction also...
>>67486563
Based Putin with the truth bombs at press conferences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
>>67488322
>But it's for the good of everybody!
exactly! that's why such people are the worst.
history is basically a compilation of people who thought to work in the best interest of everybody... that is why history is so bloody
>>67488322
There was the idea during the inquisition, that if someone even after torture did not covert to God they would burn them alive in the hope that they would make a last minute conversion and be saved before the flames killed them.
Last measure, desperate, but it was atleast a chance to be saved rather than doomed to eternal torture in hell.
You see how that thinking can arise anywhere?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_contrition
