For a board that is for freedom of speech, uncensored internet, anonymity, your support of Trump, that wants to limit all that, probably removing this very platform, is interesting.
He can't get that shit past congress so who cares.
I'm also gonna admit my hypocrisy right off the bat and admit I don't mind the left being censored.
>>67431018
>He can't get that shit past congress so who cares.
so what makes you think he can get the muslim ban, the wall, foreign relations and all that? if he can't manage to get laws that limit the internet?
>>67430776
Trump supports the Constitution and freedom. Just because you keep yelling that Trump wants to censor the internet won't make it true.
>>67431122
He can't, it's just meaningless hype his supports fall for because he's not the same old shit that the rest are
>>67431122
People who think Trump can drastically change anything are idiots. He can however choose which movements and social groups to support from behind the scenes, like obama with blm. He's more of a symbol to the destruction of PC culture, really.
>>67430776
>probably
The political establishment HAS been doing this. Wouldn't be any different from any other candidate, even if Trump shut down websites like /pol/.
>>67430776
i believe that some form of validation is required my good sire
>>67431474
>Individual candidates don't have the power to change anything! Look at the guys i dont like!
>Trump for sure will make america great again!
>>67431122
By starting from more extreme positions, Trump will be able to bargain down to the solutions he really wants more easily.
>>67431671
I never said that individual candidates don't have the power to change anything. Learn to read.
>>67430776
your english is really bad, please stop speaking our language thanks :)
>>67431675
but if congress holds true power, what makes you think trump will achieve what he claims? trump himself knows those things aren't achievable, it's clearly an act to get votes. How can you actually believe that that is a genuine strategy for when he is president.
>>67431018
>>67431342
>>67431589
>Trump likes the constitution
Here it is straight from the horses mouth
https://youtu.be/KdiQBmcgC-4
Trump supports the PATRIOT ACT.
>>67431926
>b-but so do all the other candidates!
this is why bernie is our only chance
Of course in true shill fashion you ignore the only post asking for evidence of you assumption that Trump doesn't support freedom of speech. Do not reply to britcuck shills.
>>67432082
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technology/donald-trump-internet/
>>67431996
Bernie is a sell out kike like the rest.
Rand was our only hope but you faggots abandoned him.
There is only fire now.
>>67432082
None of the candidates support freedom of speach
>>67431926
Woah sick unbiased media dude, I sure bet there isn't any manipulation going on here. :^) Seriously though, when Don wins are you going to cry? Wail and tear out your hair? Please film it britcuck.
>>67432206
bernie is the only person that isn't
A. A criminal like clinton
B. Someone like Trump, that proposes things that he KNOWS are not remotely unachievable, EVEN bargaining, like Trump.
Bernie's proposals are something you can bargain with congress, he is genuine, trump is just fucking with you and you take the bait.
>>67432286
>posts breitbart and dailymail articles all day
>sees a source that isnt his chosen source and claims its not valid
and we are the shills
>>67432181
>we have to shut down ISIS recruitment abroad by working with Internet providers
>OMG freedom of speech is dead why won't you let ISIS recruit on Twitter you fucking fascists
>>67432582
because terrorism is the first excuse to strip citizens of rights
how many terrorist attacks did NSA stop again by collecting everyones personal data?
>>67432395
>breitbart and dailymail aren't biased
Wait, you aren't a shill, you're just baiting. Disregarded.
>>67432668
Thousands, and by the way, metadata is not the same thing as wiretapping or spying. You're an ideolgue moron and if naive children like you had there way we'd have already had a few 9/11s.
>>67432668
How sad is it to see that a brit is defending my country's freedom.
Bless you m8.
>>67431018
Britbong has it with the first point, same reason why I wouldn't really care if Bernie won either.
As for the second, don't you think limiting the freedom to express certain ideas makes them more powerful because it frames them as being too difficult to defeat with just contrary schools of thought?
>>67432286
Are you just going to act like a retard and ignore TRUMPS OWN WORDS?
>>67432935
A shame no one will do it for us
>>67431122
The muslim ban is entirely in his power. He just has to say "Anyone coming from X country is disallowed." And those countries just happen to be muslim shitholes. It's in the constitution, Obama and countless other presidents have done it.
>>67433087
...how would we discern legitimately persecuted Christian asylum seekers from these countries from people pretending to be Christian or anything else who seek to do harm? (And without looking like absolute shitheads?)
>>67433038
There is nothing to discuss. You think that the patriot act and shutting down terrorist recruitment sites is destruction of free speech. We clearly didn't read the same constitution.
/pol/ is full of right wing SJWs who love free speech except when it's used for something they don't like, which in that case SHUT IT DOWN
>>67434045
>right wing
>sjw
u wot m88
>>67433003
There's also the fact that suppressing people's speech tends to make them react violently.
>>67433963
>monitoring everyone is constitutional
Kill yourself faggot
Those who choose security over freedom deserve neither remember that you bitch ass
>>67433963
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/03/14/sanders-wins-big-among-tech-activists-while-trump-threatens-take-internet-away
>>67430776
You know what, I'd censor lefties if that didn't give them ammunition to claim the moral high ground
I would just shut them up through societal norms, not laws or government
Would ban the fuck out of porn though :^)
For a person that is for intellectual discourse, a rational internet, articulate debate, your sentence structure, probably the product of much thought, is interesting in structure.
>>67434295
>collecting phone metadata on suspects is the same thing as spying and phonetaping
I'm sorry your single mom dropped you on your head honey. You know you can't run I to a theatre and scream fire, right? Muh absolute freedoms abloobloo
>>67432336
>not remotely unachievable
Am I reading this wrong or are you retarded. Bernie lost all my support when he showed his true side like Clinton by just catering towards blacks and minorities to get votes. Bernie supporters have showed their true colors with their "fake" threats to assassinate Trump ( but I was just kidding guys lel :^) ), shut down people's right to go and support a candidate they see valid, and still think they are in the right after doing that bullshit. Newsflash you fucking idiots, Trump and his supporters are among the most peaceful in the election no matter how bad you try to make them seem evil. You're the fucking problem not Trump or his supporters. I haven't seen one bernie supporter that hasn't said a) he's a racist. b) he went bankrupt so he has to be bad. c) criticized his supporters by calling them everything people have called trump.
TL;DR: Fuck off and come back when you actually see what's happening in the real world, not your made up happy funland where everyone gets a slice of heaven for just existing, the world we currently fucking live in where some people are wanting to actually clean up shit not push it under the carpet.
>>67434634
metadata is kept about everyone, and the government is pushing for being allowed to tap into mics/cameras/and GPS without proper court orders but sure
>>67434728
So is our government
>>67434634
>ad hominem
Nice
>collecting phone metadata on suspects is the same thing as spying and phonetaping
Do you even know what the Patriot Act does? It let's the government collect data on EVERYONE, you can thank XKEYSCORE for that.
>>67434800
You let it happen
>>67434226
Which you can sort of see in the success of Trump. He's channeling a great deal of dissatisfaction over numerous facets of the new normal, overbearing political correctness being one of them.
>>67431996
>our
forget to turn on your proxy Redditfag?
>>67435012
>americas decisions dont influence the rest of the world
>>67434942
Baby boomers let it happen, the sooner they die the better
>>67430776
CHECK EM FOR A TRUMP VICTORY!!!
>>67434883
Complaining about ad hominem after you tell me to kill myself? Rich, like president Donald J. Trump. :^)
>>67434634
You are being treated as a potential terrorists by your own government. The same suspicions and tactics being used on Achmed ab-dul are being used to monitor you as well. To the Feds you are no different from him.
Since when is this ok?
>>67435083
this
We've kinda ended up as global hegemon so all eyes are on us whether we like it or not.
>>67433589
They stay in the shithole? Sorry bro, sucks to suck.
USA is not liable for your shistkin problems.
>>67435308
Enough bullshit, engage in the actual argument or fuck off.
>>67435459
Since J Edgar Hoover's FBI
>>67435218
nice
>>67435459
Our idiot government has both imported and created homegrown terrorism. Now it is necessary to monitor American citizens to protect American citizens. Why are you obsessed with the "freedom" to not have metadata collected, but don't give a single shit about restrictions on the second amendment, which is the only way you can reliably protect yourself from a violation of your actual freedoms?
>>67433589
We wouldn't. Let them be martyrs and don't let them in. We didn't let the Jews in during WW2 and they were persecuted.
>>67435899
sure goy, anybody could be a terrorist, gotta have the government know everybody's smallest move vey
>>67435899
I can take care of myself. I have a CCW and don't walk around being a scared chicken shit like yourself.
I don't have to suckle on the government's teet for protection like you.
>>67436031
...would you say a hark back to that would look particularly good on us?
>>67436458
Hell yes. Those Jews felt entitled to go to America, yet when Hitler tried to send them back to their "promised land" Israel they complained and demanded to simply stay in Germany/Poland. And boy they sure did when they got put into fucking ghettos and work camps for being entitled shits.
We don't need Shitskin Christians who don't know fucking shit about anything. Period. Because I know for a fact that they'll feel entitled and that Muslim Shitskins will lie about being Christian to get asylum.
It's not a good deal I tell you.
>>67436132
You sure cry about ad hominem a lot for as much as you employ it. Are you going to discuss metadata collection or chimp out, call me names and make threats with your big gun? You know you can't shoot a dirty bomb, right?
