>women are the more desirable sex.
Is this true and if so, what caused it?
Biology? Evolution? Societal trends?
Why is it assumed that men need women more than women need men?
>>67422312
>Why is it assumed that men need women more than women need men?
Who in blazes assumes this?
More like the other way round.
>>67422520
In America, at least, single women are lauded and lifted up while single men are demonized and marginalized.
If a woman is single, it's because she's strong and independent. If a man is single, he must be a loser virgin who can't get laid.
they're just objectively prettier
some animals the male is prettier
>>67422312
Because men TAKE.
What would be the reason for the stronger sex be the most physically attractive?
>>67422811
That beauty fades very quickly, though. Men age better than women.
>>67422312
Women are all whores. Only dominance and strict societal structure will make them respectable.
>>67422767
What planet do you live on.
Take this garbage to >>>/r9k/
You filthy robot
Why do not one of you retards realize that women have a biological clock
they will eventually have to find a mate
we should just play the waiting game
except if you just want to fuck them and kick em to the door
then hello Chad
They're not better looking. It's just that males have higher sex drives, so they will fuck anything, creating the appearance that females are more desirable.
>>67422941
>things homos say
>>67422312
in a state of nature/chaos, women need men more due to the protection that men can give.
in civil society, where needs are satisfied, neither sex truly "needs" the other. however, women depend less on men and are thus more free to do as they will.
>>67422839
Sauce
>>67422312
Desirable doesn't mean "need" it means "want".
>>67423092
The sad truth
>>67423203
By that time you've lost 10 to 20 years of your life and their reproductive ability is significantly worse though. Chances of mutations causing shit like Downs goes way up after 30.
>>67422312
Desirable because they make the babies.
One man can make hundreds, so men are expendable. Women need men more though
>>67422767
That's only because we can't beat the shit out of womyn anymore, so their behaviors are reinforced, good and bad.
>>67422312
Women are the limiting factor in gene replication, so in this respect, women are more valuable than men. However, women are less capable of acquiring resources than men, so in this respect, men are more valuable than women.
Men only desire women, but women need men.
>>67425260
Take vitamin e and zinc
>>67422811
>some
In most animal species the male is prettier
>>67422312
With daughters, you for sure know that your genes are passed on when she gets pregnant. With sons, you might get cucked
>>67423132
He's right tho
>>67425906
based SK, brother
>>67423132
This lmao
uninstall internet then uninstall life OP
>>67422312
False.
Completely unneeded now that you can save up to get a realistic sex doll for 5-10k.
#WHATATIMETOBEANEET
>>67425906
>but by that logic, you could have been cucked by your wife.
>the daughters that guarantee "your" genes are passed on may not be yours.
>>67423667
>things ahmed says
>>67422312
Please read " The Manipulated man" by Esther Vilar.
>>67422312
It has to be that way mate, if there was no woman we would live in a horrible dreadful world full of peace, prosperity and progress.
>>67425260
Please tell me this is a meme I'm almost 30 and never had a kid. I probably won't have any till I am 35 or 40.. God damn it.
>>67427119
>thinking I am male
>>67422767
high kek my man
Women who aren't married in their 30s get tons of shit.
>>67422312
>women are the more desirable sex.
Says who? Don't get me wrong I'm 100% straight and love vag, but there is nothing better than having a huge cock in your mouth and taking a hot lot in your ass.
>>67422312
Women:
>Physically weaker
>Takes 9 months to fulfill your role
>Have to choose a quality mate that will stick around and provide for you while you are most vulnerable (pregnant and/or with a young child)
>Choose a poor quality mate (bad genes, shitty provider etc) and you will live with the consequences for a very long time
>Can't do much for yourself in the later stages of pregnancy
Man:
>Physically stronger
>Takes a couple of minutes to fulfill your reproductive role
>There will be no downside to fucking literally whoever you can. Spread the seed far and wide.
If half of the village's men die, that's fine. The remaining men can fertilize the women. The next generation will be just as larg.
If half of the village's women die, it would be chaos. The men will fight and kill over the remaining women and the next generation will be significantly stronger.
This is why men are disposable and women are more coveted. It is the natural order. If you want more women, improve yourself.
>>67422312
Why are all the male animals pretty and colourful and the females are ugly and brown?
>>67427792
u fucken wot m8 ?
have you ever noticed your hair looks worse the day after sex/masturbation? protip: excess in either are the primary cause of balding in males. fuck your mother's dad's genes, that's bullshit. save your semen and grow a long mane of hair. bitches ain't shit. it's all a deception. sex is only for reproduction, the only reason you find anything attractive is to get your semen in there, whether you cross neural wires and turn into a homosexual or tranny doesn't matter, it all boils down to reproduction. once you grasp the inherent logic of antinatalism and let the cultural propaganda of having kids die out in your mind, you can transcend sexuality altogether and focus your energy on better things. just look at how crazy the sex drive makes you, how many hours you spend involved with it. freedom from it is blissful. it's truly a far fall down and a descent going from sublime celibacy back to a life of sex and or masturbation. sex is actually worse, it makes you more addicted to pleasures of sense and women. masturbation is superior, but celibacy is supreme.
>>67424516
John Wayne
>>67427836
>mfw I have that exact same chair
>>67427792
>Don't get me wrong I'm 100% straight
>but there is nothing better than having a huge cock in your mouth and taking a hot lot in your ass.
It's entirely socially constructed. Biology gave males an upper hand and they ran away with it. Men were people, women were property, for thousands of years. There's no way to look at it objectively anymore, because of how ingrained gender roles are.
>>67422767
Go back to r9k you filthy frogposting neckbeard
>>67427792
Nah you can't really feel the sperm in your ass, you can just guess the other male finished.
I prefer the mouth, at least then I can taste that sweet scented nectar of Gods.
I am totally straight, I just love a bit of that heavenly nectar here and there.
Lets start a cum rating thread, I vote for polish cum. Nice, zesty and almost fairy like.
Actually I'd argue that men are overall more desirable
Men:
>make more money on average
>make better life choices on average
>don't age like milk
>lead more sustainable lifestyles
>have more stability, fiscal and emotional
>have a harder time fucking over women in divorce courts than vice-versa
>having more sex partners increases their social capital
Women:
>age extremely rapidly
>unstable as fuck
>more likely to complain about trivial things
>more likely to be unhappy all the time
>vain consumerist lifestyle
>poor decision makers
>become less desirable the more they sleep around
The only reason women dominate the market for sex is because beta cuckold liberal men give them all of the power and influence in the name of feminism and """gender equality."""
>>67428394
quit being a cuck, the guy is right. you're probably a race traitor as well as a sex traitor i bet.
>>67428357
Gender roles are constructs of biology. We are biological, and the things we build are products of nature. We are the products of nature, and by extension everything we do is a product of nature.
That's like saying spiderwebs are social constructs.
Men have to compete because men don't get pregnant. Our species sexual dimorphism came about due to the reality that women don't really have to work to provide in the same capacity as men do. Women were never expected to hunt or war with other tribes because these jobs were dangerous.
Women aren't expected to do dangerous things like hunt or go to war, and that's a GOOD THING for our species long term survival.
>If half of the village's men die, that's fine. The remaining men can fertilize the women. The next generation will be just as large.
>If half of the village's women die, it would be chaos. The men will fight and kill over the remaining women and the next generation will be significantly stronger.
>>67422811
didn't the greeks think the opposite?
>>67428357
do you leafs feel obligated to say SJW cuck shit because of the stereotype?
>>67427450
you need to hurry up. The risk is lower when you are 35 than when you are 39
>>67422811
>objectively prettier
Bullshit. As heterosexual men, we are hardwired to pursue mates with certain markers of fertility. In reality, there's nothing objectively beautiful about them. Just like us, they're just bones wrapped in muscle wrapped in a greasy, hairy organ sac.
>>67422312
Desirable in what sense? They are the bottleneck for breeding, so they have an inherently higher value to society.
>>67429093
So much this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw
Thank me later anons
>>67422312
That carpet.
What a fucking grot
>>67427836
>If half of the village's men die, that's fine.
You've got that totally backwards mate. If half the village's men die, you have monstrous consequences. The military strength of your village has been cut in half (more than that since you have less teamwork). You now have half as many providers hunting food for the same number of women and children. It's an absolute disaster that could result in the total destruction of the village.
This is why when a woman acts weird or crazy, no one really gives a shit. She isn't a threat, she's just another chattel. But when a MAN starts acting weird, or gay or whatever, this is a tremendous disaster. Fear and panic are widespread, he is seen as a "creep" and an "outcast", people have a tremendous visceral negative reaction to this behavior from a man.
Because if your alpha male starts acting weird, there could be monstrous consequences for the herd. If he dies, the entire destruction of the herd is the likely result. The alpha is literally the keystone which keeps the entire herd alive. He is the military, he is the provider, he is the authority keeping everyone else in check. A woman.....is nothing.
>>67428747
The Greeks are faggots.
But yes I suppose it could be considered true.
To make the male body beautiful you need constant work, years of dedication and strict diet. To make the female body beautiful you just need to run twice a week and not eat like a pig.
>>67427450
nigga my dad had me when he was 53 and I'm a perfectly well adjusted suicidal NEET.
>>67422312
Women are more selective with their mates because they can only carry one offspring at a time.
Men are less picky because we could impregnate 5 women a day, every day for the rest of our lives, biologically speaking
>>67429476
There are some good points in there, but it's simple fact that women are our reproductive bottleneck.
If your capacity for reproduction is cut in half, you're fucked.
On a social level, yes, a bunch of men dying is a really shitty situation, but the species as a whole is going to be fine and recover. If the social order is dusrupted, a new one will take it's place to ensure the survival of our species.
>>67427450
Date younger then
>>67422312
evolution, women need to be alive for the 9 months they are carrying children and therefore require protection
those who are best at inspiring protective feelings get to carry on their genes, as do men who are more likely to protect their wives/ partners
probably other factors too, but this one is a main one
>>67429390
and
>a feature wall
>>67428989
desu id smash girl in op senpai
>>67427450
My dad is older than my mom by almost 10 years.
It's okay for you to date younger. No one will really bat an eye at you dating a woman in her early 20s.
>>67429712
A herd doesn't grow at an exponential rate all the time. You don't need a constant supply of mature and fertile women to feed the exponential growth rate of the population.
The bottleneck is food. How many people can you provide for? If some of your women die off, the remaining women can take over the reproductive responsibilities of the missing ones.
Instead of having 3 children on average (one extra to make up for one that dies), your women might have to have 6. No big deal
Women are the glue that holds society together. Men are the creators that build, smash, innovate, and conquer
One tempers the other. Abiding to the nature of your gender is the path to happiness. Women are inherently more delicate and elfish. They pass information through different channels. They are needed. Truly suppressed women creates societies like ISIS confirmed controlled shit holes. Truly suppressed masculinity creates places like Sweden.
There is a balance and harmony when both genders are fulfilling their evolutionary roles
>>67422312
Up until the age of 30.
Once past that, the odds clearly favor men with assets.
There is a saying that goes
>Women age like bread, and men age like fine wine.
Its true!
>>67430012
The only bone I have to pick with that is that for the vast majority of our unwritten history, medical knowledge was next to nothing.
Infant mortality was through the roof. Mothers dying in childbirth was a common occurrence.
There was no guarantee that the woman would survive the childbirth, let alone the child.
It's possible now to have pretty much as many kids as you want thanks to modern medicine, but back then not so much.
>>67422312
do you even evolutionary psych?
>>67430426
obviously not or he likely wouldn't be asking that question.
or maybe he just wanted to spur the discussion so more people would learn about it
>>67428570
virgin neck beard living in mom's basement detected
Let me tell you where you are wrong
>age extremely rapidly
WRONG they live linger than man
>unstable as fuck
WRONG they have to be stable for 9 months at a time
>more likely to complain about trivial things
WRONG Because they sometime have 2 human being
>more likely to be unhappy all the time
WRONG because of men around them
>vain consumerist lifestyle
WRONG men aren't any better with video games
>poor decision makers
WRONG women have been proven to make better CEO and country leaders
>become less desirable the more they sleep around
WRONG a girl with experience is much better than anything else but you wouldn't know that since you are a perma virgin neckbeard living in your mom's basment
>>67427450
The problem stems from the woman, not from you,
>>67428450
This anon gets it. But I'm not gonna lie, spic cock is best cock.
>>67430370
The reason so many women die of childbirth is because evolution kept pushing our species to develop bigger and bigger heads.
Bigger heads = bigger brains = more intelligence
(don't say that to a liberal)
Large heads became so desirable that it was worth sacrificing the lives of many childbirthing women just to have that extra little % of brainpower.
In general though, a woman which survives her first child can have as many as she wants no problem. It doesn't even feel painful anymore, she can squeeze them out easy as pie. If her hips are wide enough, she's good breeding stock, there's no issue
If childbirthing was really so hard, how the fuck did the Abbos manage to survive so long? And infant mortality was pretty high, but not as high as you think. Maybe 1/3 dies.
Also, if you have a healthy number of provider males in your tribe, chances are you'll be able to attract surplus women to come and live with you. You either trade for them, or capture them, or simply woo them. The bottleneck is food, if you are capable of providing that, getting women is not an obstacle
>>67430812
this post is barely coherent and full of irrelevant, anecdotal, pedantic bullshit.
>>67430812
Refer to this >>67428789
>>67422312
It's only way humans could breed. Life can only come from woman and man.
>>67427945
Yeah man all you gotta do is say no homo and it's completely hetero.
>>67427836
rowhomes? you in bmore m8?
>>67431169
>>67431461
Trolls
>>67430812
>WRONG they have to be stable for 9 months at a time
You've never had a pregnant wife
>>67431691
>say some stupid shit
>people tell you you're talking shit
>"they're trolls"
find something tall and hurl your useless body off it
>>67422312
Of course they are, everyone wants to be the little grill
>>67427836
post moar comfy dormer beds
>>67427904
cuz women don't have to provide anything to find a mate other than pussy
>>67422839
Uh, in SHTF situations, maybe. In IRL, say stone age tribes or pre-industrial villages or now in western civ, women often get to choose who will father their children. And attractive women have more men to choose from, all else being equal.
>>67432150
I responded to stupid shit with stupid shit
Desirable for what? need them to make more people but thats about it. men are "disposable" but its actually a strength because they can get things done without fear of dooming everyone.
>>67427450
my mom was 39 and dad was like 44, me and my bros aren't retarded so s'all good
>>67430812
>looks at flag
That's just a byproduct of the matriarchy that is in place in the modern age. It's fast collapsing though. Give it 10 years we'll be back to good ol' patriarchy mode and women will be begging to get beaten on the streets.
