Why did Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union hate each other so much? Weren't they both socialist?
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nein
>>67283372
nyet
nah nigga
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ebin :DDDDDDD
Germany in WW2 needed more land for their farms and common wealth so they wanted to invade Russia.
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>implying nat soc is regular soc
>implying
>>67283372
>Weren't they both socialist?
>burgers unironically think this
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>>67283514
This is funny
>>67283372
>fascism = communism = socialism
I guess everything that isn't democracy must be the same, right?
>Weren't they both socialist?
No. Hitler's rise to power was funded by industrialists because they were afraid of the communists in Germany.
Fascism and Communist/Socialists are essentially complete opposites.
ruskies, being the niggers of europe, constantly threw hot bantz at hitler for his one testicle
>>67283589
this
it wasn't really about a clash of ideologies. it was some oldschool thought that borders are for fags and empires should expand
>>67283372
Both became superpower,actually they liked each other really much (i mean hitler and stalin)
But hitler attacked for geopoliticial reasons i guess.(or maybe ideology)
Henry Kissinger write some good book about it (and about cold war too)
>>67283372
Socialism kills
>>67283952
Wasn't Hitler strongly anti Marxist though?
>>67283372
No. You should look up the Night of Long Knives, when Hilter et. al purged the true socialists from the Nazi party at the request of Hilters corporate and industrial financial backers.
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probably. op makes a point though, there were socialist elements in natsoc, like state-ownership of industry
they had some things in common, but hitler wanted lebensraum
>>67283372
Immediately after the first world was (1918) Germany had a civil war. The civil war occurred because socialists had been spreading typical communist propaganda (proletariat, rich taking advantage of the poor, time for a violent revolution, etc.) and a large number of poor people had bought into it.
The socialists failed in actually creating a communist government but what did come of the war was the Weimar Republic (1919). The Weimar Republic, as you know, was a tremendous failure. They were idiotic socialists who thought you could just print more money to pay all of their bills--it made them very poor.
Meanwhile Adolf Hitler, who had opposed the socialists during the November Revolution (1918) and opposed the Weimar Republic discovered that all of the socialist leaders were Jews. Hitler was outraged that these Jews--who he didn't even think of as Germans--had played the German people against eachother and had created a government that weakened Germany by continuing to play Germans against Germans.
So why do Nazis hate Commies? Because Nazis think the whole idea of "the rich oppressing the weak" is stupid and only exists if your country is altogether weak and unpatriotic.
Only American tea partiers and members of the outrage industry in our political media remember the Third Reich for it's economic policies.
Although academics continue to debate the exact nature of fascism, there is one characteristic that most can agree on---the exaltation of a nation's people as narrowly defined through the historical perspective (often with racial, ethnic, or religion overtones.) This is in contrast to the Marxist worldview which is grounded in class struggle resulting in an international revolution uniting the struggle working classes against the oppressive upper class. This is the primary reason why fascism and communism are incompatible. Fascists don't want their nation divided and turning on itself, or uniting in meaningful ways with other nations and thus being 'diluted.'
Hitler and Stalin didn't get along for a lot of reasons. Ideology was certainly one of them.
Germoney fucked up when they decided to kill innocent slavs instead of just jews
You know how many white people died over basically nothing?
If Hitler never attacked Stalingrad, the country would still be nationalist, and Germany wouldn't have been raped by slavs
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It's funny how /pol/ will defend this when it fits their agenda and denounce it the next.
Yes, natsoc is socialism. Companies in Nazi Germany were privately owned in name only (PINO). Government determined both production and prices. It was a 100% planned economy.
They hated each other for entirely different reasons. Territorialism.
NSDAP = National Socialism
Communism = "Socialism" and homosexual
I've never seen a bigger strawman in my entire life.
>>67283372
Governments don't like to share power and wealth with other governments unless they can collude to each get more than they would without each other, like in the EU.
>>67287057
how so?
seems like you don't know what that means
>>67283372
Clay
>>67284926
Nazi economic policy was shit tbqh, you can't have autarky without a colonial empire
