>Like many sexually reproducing species, humans have special gonosomes (sex chromosomes, in contrast to autosomes). These are XX in females and XY in males.
Trans is literally a mental fucking illness.
>>67234900
Pretty sure gender identity disorder is just another name for Schizophrenia
>>67234900
Not always. Sometimes a person with XY-genes are born with female genitalia and vice versa. Then it's more a case of botched fetal development.
So what determines the mentality of a transperson?
Genetic glitch or a degenerate society?
this social acceptance of transsexuality is turning into a major fucking problem.
how many boys and girls of future generations will turn into walking abominations? society will not be able to sustain this shit, it'll definitely crumble as mental healthcare services are booked and completely fucked to oblivion.
>>67235137
A degenrate society that also enables alcoholics
They have alcoholics and promote alcohol
They have mentally ill people and release a film like "the danish girl"
>>67234900
Yes it is, anyone with little insight about psycology or psychiatry knows that this kind of deviation are none other than manifestation of mental sickness (prolonged chemical imbalcance), its just that the international medical community isnt prone to say that cause it would easily backfire on them, and even if people wouldnt chimp out about inserting this illness into the DSM-V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) basicly saying lots of people act and think like deviants because of the chemistry imbalance of neurotransmitters and other substances in their brain would seriously make them mad, along with all the people who chimp out at "YORE SCIENCES IS HURTING MY FEELINGS"...
So even if they werent to chimp out about this the health system categorization the states would still bankrupt since those people would be classified as sick, and in need of therapy, making the health costs skyrocket.
Instead now people who are sick in their fucking brain are getting sex change operation and hormone therapy from the welfare of the state payed with the money of the people who are stupid enough to work jobs where they cant avoid taxation.
The medical community found a way to not have to cure these faggots, and instead they created all this to allowing them to keep their mental illness (like if its normal, normalizing all the mentall illness in the eye of the population) creating even more costs for the state and more profit for medical community.
Now here in italy they have even closed the mad houses, only a few for criminally insane one are still working, so they are flooding the streets with mad people (ofc not every street, who are supposedly be taking their meds (not meds to cure them just to anesthetize their brain) on their own.
>>67235064
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>>67235074
Youre talking about genetic condition that can be certified by analyzing the DNA sequence and affect like the 0,01% of the population,hes talking about people with no genetic condition, only psychological (that can still be cause by part of genetic predisposition to have a fucked up brain chemistry and part enviromental, since living in a fucked up society can litterally fuck up your brain chemistry)
>>67235137
It can be either or both
>>67234900
So let's say trans is a mental illness, which I'm inclined to agree with
This just makes me feel more sympathetic to them because it's obviously not their fault. If they feel like they're the opposite sex through some chromosomal or hormonal malfunction then I'm not going to go out of my way to make them feel like shit about it.
>>67242118
if its a mental illness in democratic countries the state have a moral obligation to help people who are sick.
But pushing cures on people cant be done without the scientific community recognizing them as batshit crazy and dangerous to themself of society.
>>67238246
Are u new? Singapura is a regularfag here
>>67244149
i do not answer to silly shitskin questions sorry
>>67244149
panghe ng pepe mo my friendo :^)
>>67234900
Then why do you throw such a hissy fit when they get treatment for it from doctors?
Conservatism is literally mental retardation.
>>67244542
Treatment doesent mean surgery and hormones to incentivate their madness, it means psychological help with meds to fix the shit going on in their brains.
>>67244930
Are you an MD? Are you a psychologist?
Then shut the fuck up and listen to the ones who are that say you're wrong.
>It's an illness!
>No no no--Doctors shouldn't be treating it! Listen to conservanons instead, because they're like medical professionals except without any experience or knowledge!
>>67235064
Fuck off. I have schizophrenia and I'm FUCKING SICK of being confused with or compared to moral degenerates, hypocrites, and people with multiple personality disorder.
Trannies aren't mentally ill. They're reprobate perverts.
>>67236466
Why would therapy to cure them of being trans cost more than a sex change operation and hormones?
>>67245055
the surgical "treatment" you speak of works so well most of them end up killing themselves.
>>67245296
Yes that's the goodside
>>67245055
Yes i am, and you probably dont even know what were talking about here
read this
>>67236466
and i repeat treating its not allowing mental illness to manifest, its actually the contrary, its letting the sickness infest their body and brain, thats why theres a lot of murderers, suicides and other pretty nasty stuff happening in the LGBTQF community (like suicides, murders, OD, and so on)
>>67245226
Why would it be anyone's business except the patient's and the doctors?
>Sorry you lost your hand in that accident. Here is my tailor's number to fix your shirts.
>But I want a prosthetic!
>That's more expensive and the internet we're only allowed to give you this hook, instead.
>>67245296
No idea. It certainly couldn't have anything to do with the bigotry so many of you spew at them, right? If we beat the shit out of everyone with butt cancer, I bet you'd notice an uptick in butt-cancer suicides, too. That wouldn't mean butt cancer makes people suicidal.
>>67245427
>Yes i am, and you probably dont even know what were talking about here
Oh. Now we're gonna play the "make things up about our personal credentials on the internet" game? Cool. Well I'm actually Jesus, and I've come to Earth to let you know that you're wrong. I win.
>>67245226
im saying the contrary, sex change operation and permanent hormone therapy are more expensive (since hormone therapy is forever) and hypocrital since theyre there just to feed the big pharma machine.
>>67244312
>Italy
You ARE a shitskin
>>67245055
I am an actual psychologist, and reputable psychs treat GID with anti-psychotics, which are effective. Reassignment was always intended to be a last ditch effort. But now plastic surgeons and hormone pushers make a decent buck off of trannies.
>>67245758
I'm actually Jesus, and I am informing you that you are incorrect.
>>67245055
>implying you have to be a psychologists to argue a point logically
there's 2 comparable suicide rates to transgenders
jews living under german rule in ww2
and schizophrenics
so either society treats them as bad as the jews were treated in the holocaust
or they have a mental illness on par with schizophrenia
>>67245511
>ARE YOU A PSYCHOLOGIST????
>Yes I am.
>UR MAKING IT UP ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DISAGRE THAT TRANNIES ARE MENTALLY ILL
BASH TRANNY SKULLS.
>>67245429
You deserve suicide you degenerate freak.
The best cure for your kind is a bullet.
>>67245813
I'm informing you that I'm going to go and bash a tranny later today, I'll remember your posts.
>>67245429
Yeah sure that's why all those "oppressed" minorities have a suicide rate just as high.
Oh, wait, they don't.
>>67245511
im not even going to answer, you are making a fool of yourself
>>67234900
or mental variation as i like to call it
>>67245842
Really? Right to nazis?
>>67245939
You're not gonna haul your fat ass outa your mom's basement. Let's not be delusional.
>>67245055
Get out tranny faggot. Jump off a bridge like that queer tripfag attentionwhore from lgbt
>>67245846
its like they want to be bashed, is that a fetish in the LGBTQF community?
The whole reason for our existence is to reproduce, same as everything else. Whether fags are mentally ill or not I don't care, but they are going against nature.
>>67234900
Why do people say "mental illness" like it's some epic smackdown?
It is LITERALLY a DIAGNOSABLE mental illness in called gender identity disorder in the DSM V and you have to be diagnosed with it to get genital surgery in most countries.
>>67246294
probably even knowing that they are an evolutionary dead end is one of the things that makes them so crazy, having to cope with their uselessness
>>67246575
the thing is, there are less expensive and less hypocryte solutions.
>>67245672
>american
>30% niggers
>20% mexicans
>>67246801
no there arent.
>>67247776
Yes, there are, its just that some people would find them unpleasant, and big pharma wouldnt gain so much money in the process.
Go look how much a sex change surgery costs, and how many steps it requires, and how much a lifelong hormone treatment costs, and how much it destroys the chemistry of your body making you subscetible to lots of other desease like cancer (hormones are the first thing the body uses to control the growth of tissues), immunologic deficits (which in a degenerate habitat like the one trans gots makes them be the veichle for spreading of STD), and so on.
This means they will be more of a burden for the health system even if by this logic they will live shorter life and impacting less on health costs.
>>67248482
>Go look how much a sex change surgery costs
I know what it costs, I paid for mine. 12.500€ + flight and hotel in spring 2014
>Yes, there are
any sources or just feels? I mean, I wouldnt be opposed to a less invasive treatment if it worked. being a tranny sucks royally. Literally anything would be better
>immunologic deficits
I dont have that and I dont know anyone else that does
>This means they will be more of a burden for the health system
this wont be a valid argument as long as fat people arent fined for being fat. you cant just stop being mentally ill, you CAN stop eating like a fucking hippo pretty easily though.
German healthcare is utter shit anyway. even to non-transpeople.
>>67234900
I like trannies because theyre easy
>>67249020
Mentally ill.
>>67249841
what gave it away sherlock?
Kind of, but not really. It's a hormone imbalance that happens in utero. It's more like trans people are super gay, and a few steps away from having vestigial genitalia at birth. It can probably be prevented tb.h.
Suicide dation: 42 %.
Forty two fucking percent.
Then there is the self mutilation issue. Self mutilation is not the sign of a healthy mind.
They need help.
>>67250362
>Suicide dation: 42 %.
thats self reported attempts.
the real number is less than a tenth of that
youre generally right, but throwing around fantasy numbers isnt going to do anything
>>67249020
>I know what it costs, I paid for mine. 12.500€ + flight and hotel in spring 2014
flight and hotel?does it means you didnt do it in germany?
>any sources or just feels? I mean, I wouldnt be opposed to a less invasive treatment if it worked. being a tranny sucks royally. Literally anything would be better
Lol like you need source to know that psychological therapy + meds (which usually tranny already get to fix their shit personality which comes with bombarding your body with the wrong hormones) works on mental illness
>I dont have that and I dont know anyone else that does
Fucking with your system with syntethic stuff not now but in the long run with the help of dissolute lifestyles and multiple chronical infections will do the trick for you
>this wont be a valid argument as long as fat people arent fined for being fat. you cant just stop being mentally ill, you CAN stop eating like a fucking hippo pretty easily though.
German healthcare is utter shit anyway. even to non-transpeople.
Please do you know how much cancer therapy costs? its the most expensive of them all, mostly for the follow-up (if youre so lucky to survive it, and even if you do i dont know how fun or worthy is gonna be living while knowing you caused yourself nut cancer just to try to feel better with yourself), btw being fat is a different situation, for starter only VERY fat people are a burden, and i mean the one who cant moves, which are few (unless were talking about US of A)
>>67250807
>flight and hotel?does it means you didnt do it in germany?
no. its shit here.
I went to suporn in thailand.
>Lol like you need source to know that psychological therapy + meds
I am not saying youre wrong.
>Fucking with your system with syntethic stuff
but the stuff is bioidentical... we re not taking premarin anymore
as for lifestyle, thats a problem. but if degenerates get degenerate problems its their fault and I dont care about that.
>Please do you know how much cancer therapy costs?
Id refuse therapy if I got cancer anyway.
Cancer rates dont skyrocket through HRT anyway. prostate uterus and nut cancer are impossible to get, and breast cancer risk goes from like 17 in 1000 to 23 in 1000. in women between 50 and 79. I assume its an even smaller percentage in people that arent old.
lifelong therapy isnt cheap either
>>67242118
It's hard to feel sympathy because they don't recognise it as a mental condition.
Worse they push it onto kids. I'm on my phone in work but some anon will probably have the suicidal 4 year old trans kid pic
>>67252519
>all trannies are one person
most I know would never push it on a child. I mean, its not like it does anything for us if a child transitions early. on the contrary, it makes it worse.
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