Why is John Kasich still in the race? Can an ameribro explain this to me?
>>67033024
bouncing point for discussion, take votes from trump
>>67033024
He's going to win Ohio
He has no reason to leave yet
To split rubio's vote.
>>67033024
he's just here to steal delegates from Trump in a desperate attempt to force a brokered convention
>>67033154
>>67033235
>>67033250
>>67033287
And sleepy dr. Carson, is he still in the race after he has endorsed mr Trump?
>>67033346
he left long ago dummy
>>67033024
He's hoping to win Ohio and at least have some bargaining leverage. He may even think he can displace Rubio as the candidate of the business establishment if Rubio blows it in Florida (as looks likely).
>>67033287
>>67033235
These.
There's no telling what's going to happen at a brokered convention but it's going to be a nightmare.
And I'll assume you don't know what a brokered convention is: Basically, if a candidate doesn't hit the number of votes needed for nomination, even if they have the majority, the party pools all the delegates and then they pretty much decide amongst themselves who gets the nomination.
This could mean literally anyone who is eligible for president. John Kasich or even Mitt Romney could be put out as the Republican candidate. Of course, some options are less likely than other but I personally don't think that Trump will get the nomination if this happens.
And if you're going to say that's undemocratic(it is) you have to remember that the parties aren't officially a part of our federal government and could basically do whatever they want in terms of nomination.
>>67033024
Because he's the candidate for the military complex, they won't give up until there's absolutely no hope
>>67033725
But Trump said that if they take his nomination away from him like this he will run as an Independant, what does that mean? Will he be in any more debates? Will that be good for him or bad?
>>67034346
It means the democrats auto win like in 1992
>drop out of race
>stop getting donations
not hard anon
>>67033024
He's a career politician, so it's basically his job. As long as he runs, his campaign staff continue to receive a paycheck. It's like running a small company.
>>67033725
They'll be completely leveraged into giving the nomination to Trump, whether he actually hits the magic delegate count or not he WILL have the most at the end. If they don't choose Trump they'll be absolutely fucked, doing so would likely result in Hillary winning the general which, at the end of the day, is the last thing they want. They'll have no choice but to support the Don
>>67033024
He's actually more relevant as a loser than as doing okay.
>>67034810
this basically, that and it's great self promotion. That's why that hack Huckabee runs every damn year
>>67034346
He said he wouldn't endorse the Republican frontrunner should he lose, then he took that statement back later on.
Then he started doing really well, and the establishment started fucking him, so he put the option back on the table. As of right now he said he "may or may not" do it should he lose the nomination.
If he's running independent that just means he's with neither of the two major parties. His appearance at future debates would be up to the major news networks, so probably not. If he goes independent not only will his chances of winning be pretty much nonexistant, but so will the republican party's chances.
You might want to watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb4OnQGpyGE
>>67034839
I don't agree with that. Trump is the only candidate losing to Hillary in the polls and the establishment really hates him.
>>67033024
he looks like my drunk Polish uncle
>>67035188
Yeah, the polls that come out of the establishment that hates him
>>67035336
So the pollsters are conspiring against Trump, and have been this entire time by reporting him as having a huge lead over everyone else in "their" party and losing to "their" greatest threat?
>>67035188
Thank you man you are an American saviour
>>67035188
Trump is the only one successfully facing off against Hillary and you think he going to lose?
Nigger, the dude admits that he's got a fuck ton of dirt on her, meanwhile every other candidate is afraid of talking shit to her.
It doesn't work that way, trump already defanged the sexism accusations by talking about her part in the bill Clinton sex abuse scandal. Keep in mind he said he hasn't even started on her yet.
The RNC is forcing him to stay in the race to force a brokered convention against Trump.
>>67035486
Yes, because they don't want a non puppet in office. Both parties are terrified of Trump becoming POTUS, doesn't that say something?
>>67035486
They can't fudge numbers when it comes to actual success in the race at the current point, but any of these predictive polls are just conjecture bullshit that they can easily alter or make up entirely. It's all a dance and so far only Trump seems to hear the music
>>67034839
They honestly wouldn't mind Hillary as president. They fear about their congressional seats too, because they think Trump is going to bring a record number of liberals to the voting boots to vote against this "racist biggot".
They'd have another shot in 2020, since four Democratic terms in a row is unheard of. As long as they stay in power until then, they don't mind the role of opposition. Or the decline of America's moral values with the replacement of conservative judges with liberal ones.
>>67035550
No problem, Netherfriend.
>>67035693
While I do think that claims that Trump will just demolish Hillary come debate time are dubious, I'm not the one who will need convincing.
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>>67036111
Do you have any evidence that Rasmussen Reports and Public Policy Polling are anti-Trump shills?
>>67033669
rubio is telling his supporters to throw their support behind kasich in ohio and is getting cucked by them in return
i don't know what's more funny: the desperation of lubio or the delusion of kasich
>>67035233
With a name like "Kasich" I figure he's a South Slav.
>>67036281
I'll admit that its just my opinion, but can you explain to me how a guy winning state after state and leading in delegate count can be the only candidate slated to lose against Hillary? And while these polls are all well and good for discussion, they should be taken with a very large grain of salt. Also, nobody's pockets are too deep and anybody can be bought. Rasmussen is no different
>>67033024
He's trying to win delegates so there is a brokered convention
generally Americans wont just surrender to defeat
>>67033024
his whole shtick is that he seems sane compared to all the other candidates.
trump is a populist
cruz is tea party
rubio is a robot
but being central is useless in primary elections since due to the election process. our election process makes pandering to the extremists the best viable option for the primaries and then toning it down in the general.
>>67036144
>since four Democratic terms in a row is unheard of
>non-Americans commenting on American politics
Not even once.
>>67036883
According to what's said in the video here:
>>67035188
Trump has the highest disapproval rating amongst voters, Hillary has the second highest.
What this means, pretty much, is that when asked to choose between the two people are hating Hillary but Trump more, which is to say he has no moderate appeal.
You have to remember that there's going to be plenty of people who are going to keep lapping up whatever the major media outlets are telling them. How else would Rubio still have voters after being outed as a robot?
So even though Trump has a YUUUUGE following, those that aren't with him are against him.
>>67038102
Trump becoming the nominee won't turn republican voters who are against him to Hillary, they'll grumble and complain but in the end he'll get their votes because most republicans will take anyone over Hillary
>>67038102
The GOP may have to settle with Cruz if they want to win. That way the Mexishits will be happy and will probably vote for him based on his name. As it stands Trump's GE deficit is probably too large to realistically overcome, something like 10 million. Most people have probably already decided if they like Trump or not so I can't see him convincing those other people.
Even though I like Trump I still hope a brokered convention chooses Cruz. A Trump-Hillary debate would be epic but ultimately it would probably lead to 4 years of the bitch.
>>67038561
You might be right, but what about the people who aren't invested in the Republican party?
>>67033024
he thinks he deserved it because he
>Raised the bar
>>67037369
You're taking things too literally John. It hasn't happened in 70 years. Ever since there's been a limit to the number of terms a president can serve, it hasn't happened anymore.
She can barely win from a socialist, so it's only because the republican race is one big mess right now that she got a chance of winning.
>>67038776
I don't think Trump voters are going to turn out to vote for Cruz. Hillary would probably have the edge if they steal the nomination from Trump. Cruz is a hardline conservative, very unpopular with GE voters, and people would still vote against him for his immigration policies. Unlike Trump, he doesn't claims to be flexible, so if he does have integrity, he's going to build a wall too.
I genuinely think Trump stands a chance against Hillary, because he might be able to shake off the negativity. Especially if he picks a great VP. The only thing he has to do to win is move somewhat to the center, act civil but not meek like Sanders, and get more into depth with his policy proposals.
