I'm a conservative libertarian, so I'm very much pro free market.
Sometimes people make a caricature of what the libertarian thought is, and they think they defeat it every time they find a flaw with it.
But in fact it's a very humble, modest ideology. It's built on the idea that people aren't perfect, they aren't purely rational, they aren't purely altruistic, but they are quite OK in general. It doesn't guarantee that everything will be all right, it doesn't guarantee that everything will be perfect and optimal.
It just says: generally, things tend to be pretty good in a free society with a free market. Competition and free enterprise tend to promote good outcomes, on average, in the long run.
Compare that to socialism or social democracy, ideologies promoting an Utopian, ideal society where every is perfect. Yet they paradoxically lead to terrible outcomes.
A friend of mine considere himself as a progressive libertarian. He doesn't care of people walk in the street without clothes because
>imposing values goes against freedom
How much retard can he be? What should I reply to this? The law is the expression of certain values. If he doesn't want the State -through the law- to impose values, then he is an anarchist (or ancap)?
Excuse my poor grammar
>implying anyone is gonna read this wall of text
nice blog post
>>67025594
What are your thoughts on this kick ass dude?
>>67025359
Tell your spic friend to build wall.
>>67025359
ooga booga
>>67026119
poop emoji
>>67026021
In what galaxy are you born that juncker is libertarian? This guy is unelected head of an anti democratic government...
>>67025359
OK, so breddy good, but like Lux said, a bit wordy. Maybe we can work on it. Here's my version of "Conservative Libertarian", submitted for your approval:
I am not bothering you.
Leave me alone.
I have saved things that I have earned.
I will use some of them to make you leave me alone if I have to.
>>67026211
What are your thoughts on this kick ass dude?
>Uhuru Kenyatta
>>67025359
Actually I don't know what to think about the no clothing thing. Every shop or privately owned entity is free to kick you out, but should you be arrested in a government park? I can agree that the value lost to others is way more than your own gained value, but who is to judge? Three only reason that I can think of is that you want to protect children from indecent exposure, which would be a semi decent arguement
>>67026339
I didn't said he was libertarian. He is a motherfucking keynesianist. ECB's low interest rates created 2008 economic boom
he is an honoraryan happy merchant
>>67026633
M O R A L
D E C E N C Y
>European
>calls himself libertarian
So you're a basement dweller that gets all his political literature from the Internet.
Lol
>>67026679
Seriously, even a first years economics student can tell you how flawed keynes is. The fact it led that it sometimes works has nothing to do with his theory, and everything with self fulfilling prophecies.
>>67026993
In Spain being a liberal means to be economic right wing
In burgerland being a liberal means to be economic left wing
Do you get it weedman?
>>67027195
>Seriously, even a first years economics student can tell you how flawed keynes is
Wait, I thought Keynesian theory was still the dominant economic model in most universities. Or is that only in the U.S.?
>>67026541
he's a dumbass
>>67028053
It is taught as a way to introduce mathematical thinking in a macroeconomical framework. But to quote my teacher "if macro was as simple economics as keynes predicts then there would be no crises since everyone would know what to do". The reason keynes worked was that everyone believed it worked, and thus the actions of individuals reinforced the bust and boom cycles (since during a bust people would sell, untill a flatline where they would buy again due to the expectation of the upcoming boom).
Hayek and Friedman are closer to the truth, but the real problem is that of dynamic systems. There is no dynamic system of equation yet to predict outcomes, since the existence of these equations would affect actors rational behaviour.
>>67028053
Contd.
The biggest problem with Keynes is the overestimation of authority. Government spending is seen as universally effective (I.e. spending 1bln on an artwork would be as effective as using the money on infrastructure), and it pays little respect to qualitative variables. Since the financial collapse of 2008 none of keynes based models are making accurate predictions.
>>67026237
>getting rekt by kenya
india confirmed for bottom of the pile
>>67028053
Mash up of monetarism and keynesianism. Which today equals negative interest rates designed to blow up a bubble that the central bank will need to "fix" again later with even more wacky policies, and welfare.
It's like the worst of all worlds distilled.
I still don't get how people on this board (former national socialists), now are libertarians but still wants a world without globalization and keeping sandniggers, spics and all those kind of people out of their borders.
Also
>Being libertarian in Spain
When there is literally millions of people who depends on government for everything.
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>>67030183
Thanks, that really helps
>>67025359
Mr. Libertarian, I'm Neoconservative
