>socialism doesn't work
>but National Socialism did
Explain yourselves.
>>66899187
National Socialism gets rid of the degenerate leechers.
>>66899681
How so?
https://youtu.be/FaCHBmGWcBc?t=11
>>66899753
Only people who work get gibs. Also no foreigners.
>>66900572
>no foreigners
The Reich welcomes people of all races and nations
>>66899187
Multi-ethnic societies, like multi-ethnic neighbourhoods, are low trust societies. A nation can be connected to the state. Nations cannot. There is less loyalty to society. When there is low trust there is less accountability and more corruption. This undermines socialism because the weakness of socialism is that it stops benefiting society and destroys it from within if socialism oversteps its bounds.
Responsible fiscal responsibility is vital within socialism, otherwise the state will pile on the debt until confidence crashes and no more loans can be secured. Then there is no money to pay for the socialism and the suffering begins.
>>66899187
Nationalism/fascism is brotherhood, socialism is single mother who can only rise manchild.
>>66899187
It is the least degenerate form of socialism because it relays on the people speaking the same language and being of the same ethnic origin. It has the benefit of allowing more efficient social shaming for lesser behavior. It is still a shitty fucking system, look at the fucking japs.
>>66899187
>National Socialism worked
>>66900729
Foreigners who can assimilate into the ways of white people are honorary whites.
>>66901082
>reasons why nigs aren't voting for Bernie
They don't trust the whites. Why would they want a government controlled by whites? Even if it benefits them, the distrust of whites is obvious because hilldog is an honorary nigger.
This is a nigger redpill for Bernie supporters. This is a multicultural redpill for Bernie supporters.
>>66901082
>A nation can be connected to the state.
National Anarchism ftw.
>>66899187
>Libertarianism is individualism socially and economically
>NatSoc is collectivism socially and economically
>>>>>>I think a collectivist economic doctrine is compatible with a hyper-individualized social doctrine
it all falls apart lad
>>66901179
>>National Socialism worked
Its flaw was a connection to an underlying, false belief system of Nordic mysticism. The "Aryan" thing created by the Thule Society. In some ways it fostered an irrational view of the world and caused adherents to make choices not based on reality but on what was ideologically appropriate.
Also, an emphasis on expansionism. National Socialism can be un-Germanized.
>>66899187
Holy shit I forgot this show existed.
>>66899187
National Socialism has nothing to do with jewish marxist socialism
>>66901730
It's still good all these years later.
Humans are socialistic by nature but only within the tribe where you can be sure that everyone will contribute to the commons. Hence *National* Socialism. Cosmopolitan proposition nations and socialism don't mix.
>>66901394
>National Anarchism ftw.
>Anarchism
Stripping away the radical socialist element, doesn't that essentially just boil down to replacing every decision makers with 3 or more decision makers that all have to agree for anything to get done?
>>66901362
Though natsoc is shit imo. Constitutional Nationalist republic is god tier. We'd the best country on earth again.
It doesn't have to be white nationalist, though there is nothing wrong with white identity pride, it needs to be an American nationalist republic.
Which party in America hates America? Which one wants to make America similar to European countries? Which one wants to get rid of the constitution when it benefits them but constantly wants to erase it when it hurts them?
Progressivism is a cancer. Do not be fooled. No form of socialism will ever work. It will always have massive drawbacks seen as a necessary sacrifice for the greater good. Who is the greater good? Who are the non greats and non good? One party treats people like us humans, the other doesn't. Democratic beliefs are always flawed because of one binding principle that cannot be changed. We are not all the same. None of you are my equal and vice versa.
Thoughts of own life hurt the party guys.
>>66901362
Giving credit where it's due, their depiction of us at 4chan is incredibly accurate.
>>66899187
You need whites and nothing but.
>>66901943
Mistyped, which party wants to erase the constitution when it benefits them but turns around and uses it as concrete when it benefits them*
Hitler regarded Marxist economic policy as no less repugnant to genuine socialism as the concept of class warfare was. Marx advocated de-privatizing all production and property. State control would supposedly insure equitable distribution of manufactured goods and foodstuffs, and protect the population from capitalist exploitation. Hitler advocated private ownership and free enterprise. He believed that competition and opportunities for personal development encourage individual initiative. He said in 1934, “on one hand, the free play of forces must be guaranteed as broad a field of endeavor as possible. On the other, it should be stressed that this free play of forces must remain for the person within the framework of communal goals, which we refer to as the people and the national community. Only in this way can we attain ... the highest level of human achievement and human productivity."
>>66901362
It really speaks about their psychology and how they think they can just buy an election. They really believe you just throw magical money at a problem and it solves itself. They probably believe in earnest that rich assholes could just throw their money at healthcare and welfare to make a glorious utopia but don't because they're all selfish and spiteful.
>>66899187
Well, it may have something to do with the whole national part.
>>66901878
Not necessarily. An anarchist society can function as an oligarchy if it chooses.
>>66902302
>Oligarchy
>Anarchist
explain please, how can anarchy succeed if it's an oligarchy? Is anarchy not the lawless society? The proles ruin everything and only the fittest survive?
>>66899187
>Incentive to work
>Removal of Marxist doctrine for Fascism/Nationalism
>Doesn't focus entirely on class struggle but instead the struggle to overcome corruption
>Hitler's society still had basic things like free enterprise
>>66902452
Anarchy is not lawlessness; it's statelessness. The laws as well as punishments are decided by the community (or tribe). Leadership can be agreed upon by the tribe just like in a democracy in a way that the founding fathers more or less envisioned.
>all the people in this thread comparing nationalism to fascism
Why? A nation can exist without the state.
>>66899187
NatSoc wasn't really socialism.
It war more third-way than left or right.
>>66902934
Then what was the classic definition of socialism vs the contemporary one?
