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Who has the better healthcare plan?

Trump: Eliminate state lines for health insurance. This eliminates geographical monopolies by forcing all health insurance companies to compete in every state. An insurance plan in Florida would be accepted in New York and vice versa.

Sanders: Socialized public healthcare for all. Healthcare is funded by taxpayer money. Your taxes fund everyone elses health care and vice-versa.
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I think my image speaks for itself.
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>>66888645
Is that real?
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>>66888440
Trumps
Fuck sanders id rather be homeless then pay for someone elses healthcare
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>>66888740
Under Trump's plan, you would still receive healthcare via government aid through Medicaid. He's said that he "doesn't want people dying on the streets"
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>>66888440
>Who has the better healthcare plan?
But their health insurance plans are identical. Both want to nationalize it.
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>>66888440

trump's plan has already been tried on smaller scales and it doesnt do jack shit. in reality there was very little crossover between states and rates were virtually unaffected. trump's plan is barely a plan, it's just "status quo with extra bullshit thrown in".

universal health care is obviously the answer but it will never get passed.
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>>66889177
Better source that re.ddit
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>>66888740

US pays 2-3x as much per capita on health care than the rest of the world. you're already getting ripped off. though i'd bet $100 you're still on your mommy's health plan since you clearly have no personal experience with paying for your own insurance.
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>>66889271

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/03/03/469019745/trump-health-plan-recycles-gop-chestnuts-and-adds-a-populist-wrinkle

>Trump hedges his call for multistate plans by saying they would have to comply with regulations in each state where they are offered. It's hard to see how, if states continue to regulate insurance differently, the theoretical benefits he touts could be achieved in practice. In fact, over the years six states, including Georgia, enacted laws to encourage insurance sales across their borders, and a Georgetown University analysis found that they failed to attract new plans into their markets.

also, take your faggy website wars and shove them up your underage ass
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>universal healthcare in a country with 300 million people
Lmao lmao good luck
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>>66889370
>posts npr
> literally a government shill site
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>>66889534

>greentexts the source instead of refuting the content of the argument

classic /pol/

stay in school you fucking child
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>>66888697
I dunno, I didn't find that particular tweet. Did find this one though, which is more or less the same:

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/702961793493143552?lang=en
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>>66889499
>universal healthcare will work great here, look at Scandinavia!
>Countries in Scandinavia (used to) have nearly homogenous populations
>America has many blacks who are impoverished and thus cannot contribute to the system of socialized healthcare
>YOU'RE RACIST
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>>66888915
Trump's medicaid would only pay for the very poor. It's designed in a way that the vast majority of people can pay their own healthcare. Bernie's plan would pay for literally every citizen and even non citizens.
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>>66889370
Never, ever cite an article that isn't strictly about the facts and numbers. I am always shocked when people do this.
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>>66889370
For instance, give us the Georgetown University analysis. It is a primary source; the npr article is a secondary source. Not trying to be rude, but I see a lot of people doing this and they could strengthen their argument by referencing such primary sources.
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Trump is the only one of the two who has brought up that Medicaid and Medicare are getting screwed over because it's consistently overcharged by drug companies and healthcare providers and that they need to negotiate to get those prices down.

Sanders just seems to think that if government takes over health insurance that stuff will magically stop.
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We don't have enough people to contribute to the universal healthcare, America hospitals are already fairly corrupt IE throwing charges at people to see what sticks.

I like the idea of Universal healthcare but Trumps plan would work better for the United States.
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>>66890207
The Georgetown analysis is interesting, but I think that a federal-level law would be quite different than the state-enacted ones, and that it would, out of necessity, standardize certain regulations in every state. Another difference is that it would prompt insurers to go into a merger frenzy. All of the Blue Cross companies would start merging into regional entities, then into a national one, for instance. Of course, with mergers and consolidation come a lot of layoffs.

It is a pretty risky idea, and I can see why it was scratched out of the ACA. But keeping the ACA is not a workable proposition.

The best part of Trump's plan is to enable people to buy medication from outside of the US, which should extend to medical supplies, too. That would give providers more negotiation leverage, and drive down costs.
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>>66888440
You forgot Trump's health savings plans (basically copied Carson's health plan and added it to his own)
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>>66888440
Fuck Sanders, I don't want to be responsible for paying the hospital bills when morbidly obese land whales have to have their diabetic feet amputated.
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>>66888440
Trump just because of his sheer will. While I wouldn't mind a public health option that is baked into the tax structure instead of this unconstitutional forced private semi-subsidized unreasonable risk pool option, I don't think Bernie has the strength of personality or alliances or presence in the house or senate to get it done.

I prefer Trump on this because I don't mind paying for health, as long as its reasonable, and the affordable care act is unreasonable.
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>>66888440

Free market v socialism.

I can't believe this debate is considered viable anymore.
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>>66888740

>Merica
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