>ITT: Berniebros getting BTFO
Based Kasparov savaging on the communist kike who's never experience real socialism.
More from the genius himself
checkmate socialism
Is National Socialism the same as Socialism?
>>66736836
Germans had most advanced tech in ww2 and russians had most basic I think, or maybe japanese
>>66737053
So you're saying they're not the same?
>>66736274
>Who will be America's America?
China/India.
>>66737053
>germans
>most advanced tech
I don't remember Germany dropping the bomb.
Not a Berncuck supporter, but who gives a fuck what the armenian kike author of Winter Is Coming thinks?
>>66736147
>Russia is the US
>democratic socialism is communism
lol good one m8
>>66736836
It's impossible to discuss this issue because National Socialism used to refer to a specific type of Socialism, the socialism Hitler rose to power by pretending to support. Once he took power and instituted his nazi policies (which has nothing to do with socialism), "National Socialism" became synonymous with that.
If you try to discuss it with anyone, be prepared for a lot of misinformed and semantics-based arguing.
>>66737356
Oh Australia, how do you benefit from shitposting like this?
>China/India
TOPKEK
What sacrifices are they making again, mein retard?
>>66736147
Isn't that the magician/pyschic dude?
>>66737754
So you're saying they're not at all the same?
>>66736836
Any socialism ideology died on the Night of the Long Knives with the fall of Rohm and the Left-Wing of the NSDAP.
>>66736147
>>66736274
Kasparov is a cuck and a kike. No wonder he's defending the international jew.
>>66737832
Chess grandmaster
>>66737772
You deluded fucking Canacuck. No Environmental protection, low as fuck wages, hundreds of millions of exploited workers.
Go back to jerking off your Weedking.
Vermont is a perfect example of socialism working wonderfully for a state.
Burlington is one of the nicest places to live in the USA.
Ironically many ex Soviet dissidents like Alexander Solzenichen (Gulag Archipelago author) moved there so they couldn't have felt very threatened.
>>66737944
Hitler's nazism is not socialism.
The initial national socialism idea in post-WW1 germany was Socialism with Nationalistic tendencies, to improve the nation with an economy controlled by the state. It was a very far-left idea.
Hitler's national socialism, the naziism and current definition, put fascism (and everything else you know about nazism) on top of that, turning it into a far-right ideology.
This issue in semantics is why people tend to argue about whether nazism (and fascism in general) is far-left or far-right.
>>66738403
Vermont is full of white people and had relaxed gun laws.
Checkmate, bitch.
>>66738481
Has**
>>66736836
yes but it's and organic form of socialism whereby you naturally support your own race regardless of class and not simply pit the 'workers against the bourgeoisie' like the communists did.
>>66738311
Except these countries can't do balls without america you god damn bogan. Socialism kills.
>>66737053
>Germans had most advanced tech
>little to no surface fleet
>U-boats ineffective by 42
>no new planes throughout the war
>bolt action rifle until early 1945
>oversized and complicated tanks
>no aircraft carriers/planes
>no merchant fleet
>used the same gun for AA and anti personal
>can count with one hand battles lost by the USA to Germany
They did preddy gud in Italy with kesselring tho
>>66736147
old news
>>66738403
kek, vermont was already homigeneous and rich as fuck, never mind the fact that its population is equal to that of San Francisco
>go to beverly hills
>implement socialism
>"lol what a great success"
>>66738425
>This issue in semantics is why people tend to argue about whether nazism (and fascism in general) is far-left or far-right.
Especially pointless when it's an autocracy. Usually a state where a person rules by decree is considered right wing, but those decrees can possibly be left leaning.
I usually think it's best to call them autocracies and leave it at that.
>>66737356
I hate giving props to Hitler, but he did have the most advanced tech
>>66738580
POO IN ROO
>>66738873
Homogeneous*
>>66738794
>It still took 3 superpowers to stop them
and guess who looted them after the war
>>66738986
>his ID is shit coloured
pottery
>>66736274
Someone needs to tell him you acant give logic to these people
>>66736147
Stalinism ≠New Deal Liberalism
>>66737356
>I don't remember Germany dropping the bomb.
They had better things to do, like building giant tanks and feeding Herman Goering.
>>66738512
So what? last time I checked white people counted to in this country.
And much of Vermont is rural and poor. They love Bernie as well.
>>66738873
Vermont is racially homogenous but not homogenous in terms of the background of the people.
>old 5th generation farmers
>crunchy white people
>tech startups and new money in burlington
>ex New Yorkers
>scary francophones
>>66736147
>kike who's never experience real socialism
Neither has Kasparov.
USSR = State/Crony Capitalism
>>66736147
>>66736274
Based Australia
Kasparov is neo-con as shit, he thinks Obama is TOO gentle on Putin
>>66739829
also he's an Azerbaijani Jew who claims to be Russian
>>66736147
Commies will just tell you "BUT THAT WASNT REAL SOCIALIM!" "BUT THAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM!"
>>66736147
I heard most male Bernie supporters are in fact homosexuals. It makes sense.
>>66739711
>scary francophones
contradiction
>>66739851
right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
>>66739711
It doesn't really matter, the average income levels were already high enough to make any form of government efficient.
>>66736274
>>66736147
So based
>>66739829
He's just butthurt, nothing to do with conservatism.
>>66738311
You dumbass, do you know why medicine is so cheap in India? It's not because they're doing such cutting-edge pharmaceutical research. It's because the state subsidizes the pharmaceutical companies to copy American pharmaceuticals for cheaper.
If Sanders allows international companies to sell their pharmaceuticals to American consumers, the global pharmaceutical industry is finished, and Sanders will have killed millions of people.
>>66739851
>>66740031
Stalin was a dictator who oversaw a corrupt political and business elite i.e. a state/crony capitalism system.
You can refute this statements very easily (if it is false).
List the common attributes and characteristics of a dictator, and juxtapose them to Stalin.
List the common attributes and characteristics of state/crony capitalism and juxtapose them to the USSR.
>>66736274
>Checkmate socialism
Underrated
>>66740552
It's human nature that natural leaders will emerge and natural followers will follow.
You cannot prevent someone who has a more important role in society from exploiting that duty and responsibility and holding it over people's heads for more.
It is such an idiotic topic to even discuss. Imagine trying to have an egalitarian society with the most arrogant, narcissistic, douchey, selfish asshole you've ever known in your life and that is the reality of trying to live in a true communist society.
>>66740552
Here's the point; when idiots like you say "DURR communism just hasn't been done yet", there's a reason. it's not because people didn't try
what's getting in the way is human nature
human nature stratifies hierarchically. when you pretend you can have communism, you just get a perverted and corrupt form of what comes naturally (capitalism). you get low work ethic, a ton of public corruption (since there is no other outlet for self-interest and material success). also, abolishing God and traditional morality means anything is permissible in the name of Communism, which results in things like Stalin's purges, gulags, etc.
Communism is degeneracy
>>66738403
Notice vermont's lack of niggers
>be 5'2 manlet Stalin in charge of new Soviet Russia.
>ah shit u guys communism doesnt work! don't get rid of the state cuz muh power
>millions of people starving o well lol
>millions of people killed cuz they hurt my feelings.
>no one likes me and so I'm poisened by all my bros who had enough of my shit.
>>66740552
Socialism needs a dictator to actually be put into practice, capitalism doesn't.
>>66739050
Seriously guess where we got the scientists who helped us build the bomb... germany... guess what they were wor king on in Germany when we got them... the atom bomb... hrmmmmm
>>66736274
He lost chess to a 90s computer.
>>66736147
Listen to this old keg very carefully. He may be "based" for you now but later on you will find yourself beheaded. Hes not a capitalist, nor socialist but a zionist and a very dangerous one.
>>66741472
A dictator is a democratically elected person, when it initially comes to free elections.
But Bernie's idea of "socialism" is basically to rollback some economic policies a few decades.
He introduces no new state-industry at all, when you consider that America already has defacto single payer due to the existence of the EMTALA.
I thought that Kasparov was supposed to be smart? He's just regurgitating milqtoast dismissals without even actually discussing Bernie's policies whatsoever, he's like, angry at the WORD socialism.
Also
>scandinavia
>purely capitalistic until it became a social democracy
dohohohohoho he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about at all. Scandinavia has NEVER been purely capitalistic. There were state industries before Scandinavia was even democratic.
>>66741781
Except that wasn't the case for either Germany or Russia. Hitler lost the election, twice, and had to be reluctantly given power by Hindenburg. Russia had a revolution where power was forcibly seized. Electing dictators isn't as common as you think.
>>66739633
Hermann Goering had a Blue Max
he was allowed to be fat
Look at Sweden for an example of what will happen when people start to believe the state should eliminate inequality. Stop seeing 'natural' inequality as problem, that's the cure for inequality.
>>66737356
Scientists in Nazi Germany were actually the first to conceive the idea of a nuclear fission bomb dipshit. When WW2 broke out many scientists fled or had already fled the country.
I would actually be a lot more fine with socialism if I could tick a box that said no niggers or chinks were getting a cent of my tax money
>>66742280
>He has no idea what he is talking about
>Literally has an IQ higher than Stephen Hawkings.
Ok
>>66736147
He got a lot of "that wasn't socialism though! it's never been tried before!" and "but scandinavia is socialist and they're pretty well off" in the comments. It's absolutely nauseating.
>>66741694
To be fair that was a powerful computer using bruteforce.
>>66739785
>it's not socialism because i say so
Ok there pederast. I liked it more when people told you to pay denbts.
>>66736147
what is the solution to income inequality if not socialism or just letting poor people die?
>>66746258
Inequality doesn't kill people, absolute poverty does. Don't worry about income equality.
>>66741781
>A dictator is a democratically elected person
Holy shit, you are one stupid sumunabitch!
>>66740578
nice map, but how does it account for the facts that the orbits change all the time?
>>66741061
if you can't motivate people through incentives anymore, all that is left is motivation through fear, and that breeds paranoia and other negative factors
>>66736147
>>66736274
I like reading the responses, it's not just berniebros who he pissed off but also Scandinavians.
>kasparov
His actual surname is Weinstein. And he's a huge shill for American establishment.
>>66749155
right
>>66741694
it was a man in a computer box you faggot! REE
>>66742280
>Scandinavia has NEVER been purely capitalistic. There were state industries before Scandinavia was even democratic.
are you saying democracy is needed for capitalism to function?
also, what is barter?
>>66746258
what's wrong with income inequality? shouldn't people who innovate and work hard be rewarded?
