>A primary election win for Trump is a general election win for Clinton.
How true is this statement? Can Trump really defeat her with the media on her side?
Of course. He is the Master deal-maker.
>>66726274
if he cant, who could?
>>66726274
Hillary has vastly more exploitable dirt on her than Trump, and Trump already proved he can manipulate the media to defeat his opponents with Jeb
>>66726274
What I've heard is that polls give him a better chance of beating Clinton than beating sanders. Granted, this was from a while ago. I think it would come down to convincing berniefags to vote for trump to prevent Hillary from getting in office. To be frank though, I personally feel Trump will probably do better against Bernie, giving how little spine Bernie has. Trump would walk all over him in the debates.
>>66726636
>Hillary has vastly more exploitable dirt on her than Trump,
Trump has a shitload of dirt on him. His thing has always been that people just don't care because they're sick of the establishment. So long as he can keep that up, dirt probably won't be an issue.
Trump is the best and only chance, but enough blacks and women have to ditch Hillary for Trump.
>>66726274
If a 3% chance is a win, then sure.
Trump will literally destroy Hillary in the debates. He will ignore the questions, he will ignore the timer, he will ignore the moderators. He will sit there for 2 hours verbally berating Hillary about Benghazi on nation television while she cries her ass off before finally screaming "WHAT DOES IT MATTER" and running off the stage.
>>66726274
You think Trump was mean to Jeb?
The bants haven't even started yet.
Trump took Jeb from 50% to 5%. He might as well be dead. And the only thing wrong with Jeb is that he's a goof. What do you think Trump's going to do when he has actual material to work with?
>>66726830
What dirt does trump have that he can't spin in his favor? He's deflected all of the criticism about trump university by explicitly explaining how he can win the case, and he literally had trump steaks at his latest press conference to give away
>>66726274
I think Trump has the best chance of any Republican candidate, simply because he doesn't play by the media's rules.
Most people thought he was a joke less than a year ago. Today he is the frontrunner; and he has had the entire media against him the entire time.
Bernie fucking beat her in a state with Detroit in it.
Her momentum is falling. Trump will destroy her. Disgraceful performance tonight for Hillary!
We musn't forget how many Berninites are prepared to vote for Trump should Hillary snatch the nomination.
>>66726274
>A primary election win for Trump is a general election win for Clinton.
100% correct and if you say otherwise you are meme spewing /pol/ faggot.
>>66726274
Whatever. There's not enough data to determine if you're correct or not. But one this is certain, if Rubio doesn't drop after tonight, his political career is finished.
I'm a democrat (will be voting for Stein though) but I think it is the opposite. I don't think Clinton has the charisma to bring the voters to the polls to beat Trump. I think it will be his victory.
She has nothing going for her. Her supporters are older people for the most part. Most young people I know support Sanders. You think the black demographic (an arguably crucial voter base) is going to go vote for Hillary? Of course not.
Republican voter turn out is up anywhere from 50 - 100%+. Democrat turn out is down 30 - 50%.
That alone should put Trump ahead solidly.
OP why must you remind me of the suffering Reuenthal had to go through.
He didn't deserve any of it
>>66726274
As a british person, maybe you don't understand the degree to which the Clinton name, specifically Hillary Clinton, is hated in the US
It is very possible she would loose to Trump
You can see that the MSM is beginning to pile onto Trump, and attempting to create a narrative where he is a bad guy, a caricature.
But even if this, succeeds, which it might....
...The right has been doing the same thing to the Clintons for the past 2 decades. Non stop.
So they've got alot of catching up to do.
There might not be anyone so hated in the US political system as Hillary Clinton. Even Sarah Palin, Lindsey Graham, John Ashcroft, and other media-villians don't even come close.
>>66727245
>Republican voter turn out is up anywhere from 50 - 100%+
Most of those are just racist white folk.
>>66727184
You're delusional. Blacks will go Hillary big time, as they always have for Dems. Millennials mostly identify as Dems studies say, so Trump has a big problem there too sadly.
>>66726510
Best question of the day
>>66727000
>What dirt does trump have that he can't spin in his favor?
I've heard he more or less secretly funded some kind of morality thing who's goal was to shut down native american casinos, and he did it because they were competing with his or something. Maybe it's not true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Like I said and you said though, Trump has consistently been able to shrug off this kind of shit, so if he can keep that up in the general he should be fine on that front.
>>66727037
He doesn't really play by anyone's rules. Normally with the republicans, they tend to hold back on attacking each other too harshly during the primaries, because they don't want to end up in a situation where the guy who wins the nomination is unelectable to do something that was mentioned in the primary. Trump doesn't care about the republican establishment, so he went in swinging, which gave him a huge leg up. The rest have started escalating against him, but it seems a bit too late.
>>66727106
Bernie is actually very similar to Trump in certain aspects. They are both very much politically anti-establishment figures with popular support rather than corporate support. The difference is that Bernie, while being against the political establishment, is for the progressive-left cultural establishment, whereas Trump isn't.
>>66727570
I'm sure they "support" her but a huge problem in the US for democrats has always been actually getting blacks to get up, go to a polling station and vote. When Obama was running of course they did, because he was one of them. I don't think they will have the same motivation with Clinton. They maybe want her to be president but every black voter who voted for Obama will not also be voting for Clinton. It is a serious issue for Dems. I really think Trump will win against her.
>media on her side
If the media is truly on her side, then they'll simply stop talking about trump. That's all they've ever needed to do to stop him. He started out the cycle by paying people $50 a head to fill a small auditorium. The media hyped him, the media built the Trump campaign.
Here is what the media is actually going to do: never ever shut up about Trump.
Maybe in your simple idealistic little fantasy world there are corporations that magically act on behalf of any concern aside from raw naked greed, but in the real world, this is the infotainment era and the media is going to do exactly whatever it can to get eyes on screen.
And unlike you, Trump knows this.
The whole "left wing media" thing is a red herring. I guess it never occurred to you that every time you hear that phrase, it's somebody whining while ON TELEVISION.
Hell, if anybody destroys Clinton, it will probably be the media. And they won't do it for any political reason at all. It'll just be them sniffing around to generate content.
>>66727568
I'm sure. However their vote still counts.
>>66727570
Doesn't trump have the greatest black support for any republican since the 1920s?
How much has he said about shit like Mike Brown and the riots? It seems like he could push the angle of "Democrat president for 8 years, worse race relations than when we started, all the really bad shit is going on in highly democrat cities, etc" if he plays his cards right.
>>66728371
>The whole "left wing media" thing is a red herring. I guess it never occurred to you that every time you hear that phrase, it's somebody whining while ON TELEVISION.
>Hell, if anybody destroys Clinton, it will probably be the media. And they won't do it for any political reason at all. It'll just be them sniffing around to generate content.
The corporations play both sides. They want an establishment win, and Trump winning could be bad for them. The issue is that they don't really understand modern people, particularly young people. Trump is doing well because there are a bunch of people who don't think that the Republican establishment understands them and supports them. The people who attack Trump consistently fail because they don't understand the people voting for Trump, which pretty much proves his supporters right.
>>66726510
Literally every other Republican candidate that has for months now had odds favoring them against Clinton. Probably had a lot to do with them having a modicum of cross party support.
>>66727000
What dirt does Hillary have that he can't spin in his favor?
Try to be objective.
>>66729505
>he
Hillary does not have the dominance to spin dirt in her favour. How long has the FBI email investigation tarnished her campaign? People haven't stopped using it against her because she has not been able to spin it in her favor (and frankly how can she)
>>66726274
Definitely, if enough of Bernie's supporters refuse to back Hillary. The youth vote is really something the DNC should be taking into account.
Spread it like wildfire
http://wontvotehillary.com/
>>66727281
Kaizer Trump will make the LoGH reboot better than the original. 150 episodes of Sakuga!
Zeig Kaizer Trump!
>>66729877
>Hillary does not have the dominance to spin dirt in her favour
Dude come out of your bubble. Look at benghazi, the emails, none of that has stopped her?
>How long has the FBI email investigation tarnished her campaign
It hasn't thats the point. American voters don't care for the same reason they don't seem to care about Trump's shady business dealings
>inb4 what shady business dealings
You'd be proving my point.
Clinton couldn't answer Sanders at ALL during the last debate. You think Trump is going to let her forget that she is bought and paid for?
Clinton is DONE
>>66730026
Many of my friends are Sanders supporters who have said they will absolutely not back Clinton if she is given the nomination. They have said they will simply not vote, vote for a third party candidate or for Trump to "show the country how horrible it would be with him as our leader."
The DNC really underestimates how much younger people dislike career politicians. Even my most liberal friends say that Trump is a breath of fresh air because he talks like a human being and doesn't say shit like "we are deeply concerned, are closely monitoring the situation and are in constant dialogue with our allies in the region."
>he's going to make Palin his running mate and ruin everything
Filthy Demoncrat here, I'd rank the Republicans' electability as Cruz > Trump > Kasich > Vermin Supreme > Rubio. But I think Clinton could crush all of them, so just vote for whoever you want.
>>66732132
I would disagree. Kasich is probably the most electable and that's because he has both relevant experience to leverage as well as being the most moderate candidate still running. The thing is that he likely won't get the GOP nomination so his general electibility chances don't really matter.
People now are making superficial comparisons of Trump to Hitler and Mussolini.
People 8 years ago were digging up Hillary's Stalin-like behavior.
I'm reading articles in my left-wing newsrag that suggests that President Trump will oust the Jews and the Blacks from his nebulous platform of public discontent.
I'd rather read about four years of Trump's inconvenient truths than not read about the inconvenient truths Hillary wants silenced.
>>66732634
I'd rather not hear about either of the slimey fuckers and have a true statesman run. But eh 2016!!! YAY!
>>66726274
Of course he can you fucking retard. The media has been trying to blast him out of the primary, and he's still crushing the competition.
He also has the advantage of having been a business associate of the $hill in the past, he has more dirt on her than even the media knows about.
>>66726274
How does everyone not hate Hillary? I see this matchup as a shoo-in for Trump. Am I being naive?
>>66730949
She's come as far as she has because of money plain and simple. Hillary "What Difference at This Point Does it Make" Clinton is hated by the left and independents almost as much as she's hated by the right.
Clinton is likely to win no matter who the Republicans put up and you better believe the "RACIST! SEXIST! HOMOPHOBIC!" guns will be blazing full bore from the media no matter who it is.
Trump has legit grassroots support from fed up people and knows how to work an audience unlike whatever lame stooges and robots the GOP establishment has, he's probably the best bet to win, as unlikely as it is.
Bernie supporters aren't going to go to Clinton and sure as hell not going to Cruz. Trump is going to collect a lot of sway should it come down to that.
>>66736302
>Bernie supporters aren't going to go to Clinton
I bet they will just to make sure a Republican doesn't win.
>>66731669
He will never do this, he pretty much buried her after Iowa.
>>66734508
Extremely naive. Electoral map and US demographics favor Hillary.
All you read about how hated she is overblown too. Dems hate GOP even more.
>>66736707
I just think about how she failed in 2008 and how she can't be any stronger now than she was then.
There will be nothing more entertaining than Trump going up against Hillary on the same stage. No matter the result, this year's election will be one for the books.
>>66737162
She was swallowed up by a grassroots that kept her from the general. As the Dems only hope, that changes everything for Dems.
Sad!
